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Digitmktguru:
According to Jesus statement in Matthew 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

John the baptist is the greatest of all men from the time of Abel until his own time but Jesus' disciples who will make it into the list of Christ's corulers and greater than John.

WHY?


Because such ones will no longer be humans like you and i but they will be taken to heaven to sit on thrones beside Christ {Luke 22:30} as his corulers in heaven they will no longer bear our nature of male or female gender {Luke 20:34-36} there will be 144,000 of such ones going to heaven with the Christ! Revelations 14:1

Before John prophecies started from the garden of Eden pointing to the time the Christ will come none of all the prophets before John lived to see the Christ in action like John the baptist who prepared the way, lived, talked, baptized and directed his own disciples to join the Christ. That's what made him greater than all those born before him!

kingxsamz:
Between Buhari and this your god I don't know who's wiser or duIIer. 😂
So you mean Satan, who's well aware of this god's powerful nature, one who even created the entire universe, had to be reminded that he could bring people back to life? And the only way to remind him was to kiII off an entire family?
A proper duIIard. 😂

Ọmọ that's not the case, Satan must die slowly as a punishment for his evil deeds that's why the Almighty is tormenting Satan through the faithfulness of his loyal worshipers.
Satan keeps crying seeing them being faithful despite all his efforts to break their integrity.
Ọmọ that's the greatest slap on the face of a bully like Satan created greater than humans but found out that these lesser beings could resist the heat of his fury and remain faithful and loyal to the true God. Job 1:9-11; 2:4-5
As for us we are mere dust {Psalms 103:14} that doesn't worth anything other than living for few years like a plant and expiring {Psalms 37:1-2} but God has promised to give us everlasting life {John 3:16; Psalms 37:29} that's what Satan can't have and he is crying day and night over it!
Have you ever thought of why humans are fighting and killing themselves just because of power? Revelations 6:3-4
Oh you felt that's how it has been from time immemorial shey?
Well for your information Satan is the one behind all these killings God's own people today are happily worshiping Him like a global family of peace loving worshipers throughout the earth! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3
Satan wish all of you should destroy one another with your own hands because if you people do you have removed your names completely from God's program but Satan is bitter seeing millions of Jehovah's Witnesses caring and loving their fellow worshipers just as Jehovah foretold! John 13:34-35

kingxsamz:
I'm sure you understand English Language very well and I'm 100% sure you understand the question.
I didn't ask if he's present, neither did I ask what he focuses on. I asked if he's incapable of doing those things.
I know the question hits you hard and you're finding it difficult to give me an answer. But it'll be here waiting for you.

Surely you underestimated the attributes of God Almighty, He is not the bully you were taught to think He is His capability doesn't mean He must do things the way you think so He can do anything He only choose to allow each intelligent being (human or angel) to do whatever pleases them.
As for being at all places of course you can't expect Him to come stay with you while you are pooing or mating with your woman nah!

MrPresident1:
You asked a question and I want to answer you. You don't want your answer again? Before I answer you, I want to know that you understand what you are asking.
What is the meaning of a revolt against the LORD?
What does it mean for a man to rebel or revolt against the LORD?

OK i'm no longer interested thank you!

MrPresident1:
I want explain to you what John the Baptist did but I do not want to do so without making sure first that you understand what rebellion against the LORD means. So, you asked a question, and I want to answer you and I will answer you. But first you have to answer my question so we set the foundation
What is the meaning of a revolt against the LORD?
What does it mean for a man to rebel or revolt against the LORD?

Am i the only one you want to explain it to?
Present your explanation even Jesus did not expect everyone to agree with him so if you have sound reason to back your claim there's no need to fear whether people agree or not!

Janosky:
That verse is a subject of controversy because it conflicting with other Bible verses Paul wrote about Jesus.
1 Corinthians 11:3, is God is superior to himself?
How many persons are spoken of in 1 Corinthians 11:3?

Abeg leave this guy's thread for him and his friends to continue arguing after all they will not welcome the only solution to this issue: God's Organized people. Act 1:8

If anyone wants to argue about who or what Jesus stands for let them present the organization that's working with Jesus as proof that they fully understand whom they are talking about.

Jesus is Archangel Michael says Jehovah's Witnesses Organization and that's the one and only group fulfilling God's purpose others are just arguing up and down with nothing to show for their unwarranted arguments! 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9

MrPresident1:
What does it mean for a person to revolt against the LORD?

The issue you raised is that John the baptist revolted against the LORD

MrPresident1:
Because he (John the baptist) taught rebellion against the LORD.

So it's you who needs to expatiate on that not the other way around if you don't know what you're saying please leave the matter it's not worth this back and forth argument.

kingxsamz:
My guy, I asked you two simple questions.
Is he incapable of seeing the future, both the future of individuals and everything entirely? And is he incapable of being present in all places?
Your answer should be "Yes, he's incapable of both" or "no he's capable of both".
And maybe if he's capable of only one, you can let me know. Don't answer my questions like a kid abeg. Thank you.

You've gotten the answer my guy.
He is not present in all places.
And He focuses mainly on His own program not each individual on planet earth that's what the Bible teach!

kingxsamz:
😂😂😂
You mean your so called wise god who supposedly kicked Satan out of Heaven had an issue with Satan and decided to resolve it and put him to shame by *checks note* killing the entire family of his devoted follower?
Talk true, if you be Satan, no be laugh you go dey laugh the foolishness of this god?
😂 Omo, I'm wondering if you're even thinking about the responses you're giving me.

In reality Satan is bitter more than ever now because he knows God has the power to bring His dead faithful servants back to life when Satan has been destroyed!

You thought death of those who will still die sooner or later matters is more important than an issue that was resolved by the action of Job?
Ọmọ both aren't mortal so what matters to them is not about families that will still die one way or another but the issue that puts Satan to shame making him see that not all humans that will turn against what they know is right no matter the condition they found themselves.
As for Satan kicking him out of heaven can't resolve the issue raised that's unwise because other angels (immortal sons of God) needs to know the outcome of that issue, that's the wisest thing to do.
Under the circumstances mankind found ourselves Job, his friends, his wife and all his children will still expire but the issue has been settled once and for all time!

Steep:
If Jesus was an angel how come Hebrews said that Jesus is great than angels?

Hebrews 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

He obtained this position that's higher than his brothers in the spirit realms after his successful earthly mission {John 19:30} that's why all powers was GIVEN him in heaven and on earth {Matthew 28:18} no angel has reached such a lofty position before then so all creatures must do Obeisance to him! Philippians 2:5-11

Steep:
Read carefully Jesus was not originally in the form of a servant but in the form of God, he is not a mere exalted servant but he is originally in same form with the father but take a servant form.

This means taking the form of lower beings (humans) as he is one of higher beings (angels)

MightySparrow:
So one anointed can remove another.

This is why you need to humble yourself and learn from Jehovah's Witnesses!

Jesus said:
“Moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go and reveal his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two more, so that on the testimony of two or three witnesses every matter may be established. If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector" Matthew 18:15-17

Do notice that it's the CONGREGATION that will determine what happens to any erring one?
So a single individual can't remove any person rather it's the congregation as a BODY that can determine such things that's why your friends are saying evil things against the organization because they know that no single individual can judge them but the organization as a whole! 1Corinthians 5:13

MightySparrow:
How do you know your GB are anointed by God?

They have gathered millions of imperfect people throughout the earth, taught them what they discovered in the Bible, settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop producing, buying, selling and using weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

As living WITNESSES {Act 1:8} of the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} That's the FRUIT expected of Jesus' true disciples! Matthew 7:16-18

MightySparrow:
This is why I like you, you don't tell lies deliberately. You separated your god from the God of the Bible:
Rom.13.1 - For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
My own Jehovah anointed king over Syria, made Cyrus King, made Nebuchadnezzar king and still figuratively called them and their kingdoms beasts.
He rules and reigns over the affairs of men. It doesn't matter who and where, He allows who would reign and rule.

From the days of John the Baptist until now, the Kingdom of the heavens is the goal toward which men press, and those pressing forward are seizing it. Matthew 11:12

From the days of John the baptist anyone who is partaking in the rulership of this world is directly working for Satan before then God anoints kings for them to work towards the arrival of His anointed King of kings (Christ) but from the very moment John the baptist began preparing the way for Christ there is no room for any faithful person to partake in this world's politics it's either you bow before Jesus and live your life in harmony with his teachings with the hope of ruling with him which makes you no part of the world's political system {John 17:14-16; 18:36} or you bow to Satan and become one of his agents! Luke 4:5-7

MightySparrow:
So all the errors and New Lights are because of anointing?

You don't know what error means.
The Governing Body is a BODY of anointed men so one of them could be reproved {Galatians 2:11-14} that does not disqualify the whole BODY.

MightySparrow:
So man can remove the anointed of God.

If Peter failed to accept discipline it could lead to his removal from the BODY but he always welcome discipline.

MightySparrow:
When Oyedepo sacked unproductive, anointed pastors you didn't allow us to rest on this platform.

Oyedepo is one man who owns his personal business not a BODY of anointed men so he employes, sacks and retire his workers!

Gabrielshow24:
Michael the conqueror, it's nice to hear from you.
Happy belated New Year.

Michael is the same as Jesus to me but i will call Cornelboy to discuss with you!

kingxsamz:
Yeah, it means a lot to your god because he's a lover of disaster, sadness, destruction and failure. The very thing you people claim this Satan is.
He's an orchestrator of misfortune. 😂

They both had an issue that needs to be resolved and Job performed excellently by putting Satan to shame that's why God restored everything Job had in double fold!

kingxsamz:
I want you to say it yourself then.
Is your god incapable of seeing the future and also being present at all places? Answer directly.

Future of each individual or His own program?
NO God is not present in all places!

God doesn't focus on each individuals in the world because it's not all that are included in His program it's only those who are in His program or those that pick interest in His program that He includes in His program so don't think God knows you if you have nothing to do with His program to Him you are as good as DEAD! Matthew 8:22

Gabrielshow24:
Nope, they're not the same.
I had a discourse similar to this with a prominent JW here.

He drew an absolute statement from Jesus' words as regards "turning the left cheek" - oversimplified, and how those fighting wars are not christians!.

Along the line in my counter, I raised up the verses of revelation alluding to the fact that his prince of peace "Michael" fought a war in heaven then came to earth to preach ☮️ peace 🤕.

A simple contradiction in character was sufficient to show that Jesus was not Archangel Michael as they claim and also to make him see the fallacies he committed.

Jesus is not Michael!!!!!

Cornelboy is in school and not so much regular on Nairaland but i will give him a call to discuss with you!

kingxsamz:
Like I said MaxInDHouse, you probably haven't given it a thought, but your god character is a master of chaos and division. A true viIIian.. That's why Satan could stroll into heaven without any push backs and still be tasked to torture and kill the family of his most devoted follower. Yes I'm talking about Job.

The case of Job means nothing to you more than what happened to him but it means a lot to Jehovah and Satan who are both proving what a man can do when he is faced with trial!

kingxsamz:
Oh, you mean the same god who's very much omnipresent and omniscient, who created a garden and for whatever reason planted a deadly tree in the middle of it and allowed same Satan access to it, only to barricade it with flaming swords after Adam and Eve had been successfully tempted? 😂

Did you read the he highlighted in God's word or some religionists told you?

You will be shocked to know what the Bible God say on the highlighted!

kingxsamz:
So you haven't given it a thought that perhaps this your god is behind those pagan nations since violence and destruction gives him orgasms?

This is really funny!

Someone gives order that people living in a particular place should be slaughtered if they refuse to evaluate the place now those people now decided to fight back instead of running away from the nation whose God fought the world's most powerful nation (Egypt) without a single fight by anyone and delivered His worshipers.

Ọmọ use your brain nah, someone is backing those people to fight back even though they knew they are not supposed to resist the Israelites!

MightySparrow:
Who dis anointed Tony Morris when he was removed?

Does anointing means above error?

MightySparrow:
maximumSide, see your life outside. These are your fifu o. Janosky, janoskololo, see your life outside.
The veil or evil covering is falling off people's face. They are being delivered from human philosophy to the liberty in Jesus Christ.

What is the name of his new found church?

MightySparrow:
This is the age long delusion we have been talking about. In this life, men will always rule themselves. Mention a country, state, school, organization that it is God choosing their leaders. .
Your Governing Body is not either.

Satan is the world's overall ruler {John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} so whoever is partaking in this world s rulership is working under Satan! Luke 4:5-6

The Governing Body is ANOINTED by our God to direct the affairs of God's people throughout the earth today but they are not recognized by the world! Luke 12:32

MightySparrow:
So it is a sin to elect leaders in a community

Who is God's chosen King for Christians?

Electing someone else as our choice in a world ruled by Satan means what? 1John 5:19

That's why Boko Haram and other terrorists are fighting and killing one another {Revelations 6:3-4} not religion!

kingxsamz:
Prove what when they're actually buddies. 😂
Most of the bible was your god waging war against humans instead of Satan and his cohorts.

Who is behind pagan nations if God is behind the Israelites?

kingxsamz:
I don't get. Taking what far?
Commenting on Nairaland is taking things far when people actually hold conventions to cosplay and discuss about their favourite book or TV characters?

People who are FOND of a book or TV character may hold a convention but never has people engage themselves in arguments over such things when some thinks it's meaningless.

So you people coming to Nairaland day in day out to argue over a book that you don't believe makes no practical sense!

kingxsamz:
People talk about characters from movies and stories all the time. You have no point.

And they are taking it this far shey?

kingxsamz:
Mtchew. Bunch of words that hasn't justified how Satan is the bad guy.
When you're ready to talk, let me know.

Let Satan inspired his own book to prove his innocence nah!

MightySparrow:
Is it because Kumuyi made a comment about election of Buhari in 2017, islamists killed his members in 2012?
Ẹ má bẹrù ọlọrun?

How are you using your brain nah?

Is it 2012 that Kumuyi began his church?

Political thugs know their oppositions by their teachings and the activities of their followers.
Do Deeperlife members participate in the electoral process?
If so political thugs knows them even before Kumuyi come out openly to speak in support of politicians, i only used the screenshot as proof that these people are into politics i'm not saying that's what triggered the killing of his members in 2012 the killers know those opposing their choice of rulers!

MrPresident1:
Do not we hate the heathen who hate the LORD our God with perfect hatred? You thought you smelt blood and came after us We have smelt your blood and we have come to e-take your e-soul you bastard spreading lies and evil all over the place, you want to perpetuate Satan's reign, it will not happen!
Esu ko le ko'le ti Jesu, b'o ba ko, a o wo!
What is the meaning of a revolt against the LORD?

Funny churchgoer!

Is this what Jesus taught his disciples to go about doing to those opposing him? Matthew 5:43-48; 10:16; Luke 6:27-28

I realized how hungry you are spiritually speaking after seeing the desperation in you just to engage me:

MrPresident1:
Awa ni oko Jehovah witness

Fool thought he had found easy meat, he wanted to moved in on us, he thought he had smelt carrion, he thought he could circle us like a shark that had smelt blood. We bloodied him! We smashed his head on concrete. He mopes from afar now, never daring to come close, he trembles and quakes when he sees our threads!

Maxindhouse's e-soul has been e-annihilated by us

MrPresident1:
What does it mean for a person to revolt against the LORD?

Maxindhouse, Janosky, Aemmyjah, Holinesstodlord and all the Jehovah witness on Nairaland, answer the question above

How do you rebel or revolt against the LORD?

Anytime you see our monicker you must tremble, quake and fall to command!

MrPresident1:
We have wasted the e-soul of maxindhouse Jehovah witness now he only mopes on our thread from afar never daring to show face before before he will wake up and first thing he does in the morning is to come and rave here

Na we be husband of Jehovah witness

MrPresident1:
Maxindhouse and all the Jehovah witnesses on this forum come and redeem yourselves, what does it mean when a man revolts against the LORD, what has he done?

What does it mean for a person to revolt against the LORD?

If you don't have an answer that means we are now the husband of Jehovah witness

MrPresident1:
Maxindhouse, you fled from us and are using alternate monikers to attack to us, such a coward.

We are now the husband of Jehovah witness

Oko Jehovah witness

MrPresident1:
All the Jehovah witness people on this forum, come and help maxindhouse and save him from my hands.

If a man revolts against the LORD, what has he done?

What does or mean for a person to revolt against the LORD?

Questions for all the Jehovah witness

But when i finally decided to give you some audience you started insulting me when i never had your time in the first place!

Ọmọ you are empty spiritually speaking so there's no need wasting my precious time with you, go and learn some manners first when you're tamed you can come back for mature discussion!

MightySparrow:
Deeper Life are killed because of the leader's involvement in politics shey?

YES!
Political thugs are sent after those going against their intentions so if Kumuyi says anything in support of any politician opposing party will start trailing members of his church knowing fully well that he controls their brains!