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Gabrielshow24:
Far be it from me.
I talk of our matter,our tango in the other room🤤.
Michael the conqueror 🤤.
It shows this your absolutism has not left you.

Michael has helped God's people JWs to unite as one! John 17:22

Oya present those working with your Lord o!

Janosky:
Screenshot evidence of Greek metohkho @Hebrew 1:9.

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
fellow, partaker, partner.
From metecho; participant, i.e. (as noun) a sharer; by implication, an associate -- fellow, partaker, partner


You don't like angels as "peers" of Jesus to reference Hebrew 1:9.

"The God your God anointed you above your
Companions/fellows/partners/associates."


Oga, choose the one that suits your taste.

Because you left him in his delusion he thought he has won a trophy!

Gabrielshow24:
"Left" 😂😂😂 is that how you see it🤣.
Oh my God😂😂😂.

You might as well remind yourself of what really happened and stop deceiving yourself and naive readers.

You and your pal, were so shambolic😅,
fallacious and incongruous.

No one is disputing that, I mentioned that already. What I asked was if they were of his substance?

How hard is that to answer?🤧
Certainly you are on the right track🤤.

You love deceiving yourself a lot!

Ọmọ angels are God's Spirit Sons {Job 38:7} so they share the same nature with their father who is also a Spirit! John 4:24

CanadaOrBust:
Missing the rapture and hell are the greatest fears.
Do you folks believe in rapture

There is nothing called RAPTURE in God's word it's another form of doctrines in Christendom.

Christ will take a limited number of his disciples to heaven during their resurrection and they are going there as spirit creatures not physical.

So they may have gone now since we can't see them when they are leaving but that doesn't mean faithful Christians who doesn't go with them are homeless in fact we will live forever in Paradise on planet earth {Matthew 5:5; Psalms 37:29} but they will forever live with Christ in heaven like angels {Luke 20:34-36} after they have being transformed into spirit beings! 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

DaddyCoool:
You saw clearly where the Bible says Jesus was WORSHIPPED! Show same for Moses. You and I know know full well that if anyone tried to worship Moses he'd curse them like all other prophets did!

Moses" wives? Can't you read. See it again below

The word is OBEISANCE not WORSHIP.

Moses wives?
Abeg where in the Bible nah?

CanadaOrBust:
Irony of ironies: the Muslims are the jews!😆

Jesus warned his own disciples to leave Jerusalem whenever Roman soldiers surround the city {Luke 21:20} so when the Roman armies eventually came the Christians began praying for escape and after some times the Roman armies left giving Christians the opportunity to leave but unbelieving Jews remained and when the Romans came back they killed millions of Jews mercilessly.

That's what they got for saying the curse that will come from the death of Jesus should come upon them and their children! Matthew 27:25

CanadaOrBust:
But without hell how can you scare people

Who is scared of hell?

How many are zealously preaching and industriously teaching in their neighbourhood like Jehovah's Witnesses who are actively doing the work Jesus assigned to his disciples globally?

My guy Hell simply means Grave and nothing more, the churches of Christendom in the dark ages use it to scare people into coming to church instead of preaching and teaching them the truth about God's Kingdom.

Today i don't believe in a fairy hell where people will be crying because God said such cruelty has never come up into His heart! Jeremiah 7:31

CanadaOrBust:
You obviously don't know what God requires to be his chosen people. Highly likely most of the original Israelites are Muslims today

Excellent!
And they are now claiming Jerusalem as their inheritance but people worldover believe the land belongs to Judaists not Muslims!

DaddyCoool:
I hope you understand that the near-illiterate founders of JW can't know better than serious Bible scholars. See below
Show anywhere someone did "obeisance" to Moses

Obeisance simply means ready to obey him and Pharaoh, Israelites including all Egypt OBEYED the voice of Moses who was made to serve as GOD at that time! Exodus 7:1

Please cite where Moses married several wives o!

Gabrielshow24:
You did this same thing with mich547 and you know how that ended for you. 👀

If someone left you does that mean you have convinced him?
Angels are spirit sons of God and God is a Spirit so they are more related to Him than any other creature!

DaddyCoool:
See twisting the Bible oo! You were warned not to do this!
*When was Moses ever worshipped as God talkless of accepting worship??
*Moses started life as a murderer and then went on to killing many more. Did Christ ever come close to killing anyone??
*Moses ruled a whole nation. Did Christ come close to rulling even his father's house?
*Moses was wealthy. Jesus had nothing
*Moses married several women and had lots of children. Christ did neither
*Christ said He came to give his life and rose after 3 days and returned to the Father. Moses was "killed" by God to prevent his entering the promised land and was "gathered to his fathers"
*Moses never actually actually performed any real miracles directly. Christ directlybperformed tons of miracles and forgave people their sins himself.
*Moses acted and spoke like a servant, a messenger. Christ acted and spoke like he was the boss
*Moses was a typical human with human appetites and lots of sins. Christ was sinless
*Christ asked to enter people's hearts and was totally focused on after this life. Moses was all about this life.

***** Conclusion: There is no similarity between Moses and Jesus WHATSOEVER.
Moses was more like Muhammad

Nobody worshiped Jesus that word is OBEISANCE not WORSHIP!
Both Moses and Jesus directed people to someone else not to themselves!

Moses killed once but afterwards it's God who was killing enemies of pure worship.

Moses never ruled any nation rather it's the God of Abraham that ruled giving His people laws which Moses must not overstep.

Moses and all those who left Egypt came out with great wealth.

Moses married several women!

Abeg cite where you found this one o!

sonmvayina:
You have a mental disorder..
Have I not told you a thousand times that Isaiah 9:6 is about future king Hezekiah?
You are still pulling it out.
Common man.......you don't learn.

Learn from who?

Ọmọ whatever you're saying is like the utterance of a mad man to me unless you are able to present those practicing your faith.
Do you know the difference between a mad man and sane man?
Well it's easy the mad man makes a lot of claims with nothing to show for it while sane people practice what they say together as one community!

sonmvayina:
Resides within us ..
"The kingdom of God is within you....."

Can you quote the above in the Torah?

CanadaOrBust:
I suspect vast majority of original Jews are Muslims today!

Indisputable fact!

CanadaOrBust:
You're implying people can't independently come to the conclusion there us no hell?

Well Paul said someone must teach you before you can know the truth:

"For who makes you different from another? Indeed, what do you have that you did not receive? If, in fact, you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not receive it?" 1Corinthans 4:7 compare to Act 8:31; 18:26

So it's only when people gather that Jesus comes into such a gathering to help them with God's Holy Spirit to grasp spiritual things not as individual! Matthew 18:20

CanadaOrBust:
Stop fooling yourself. They disappeared from history a long, long time ago. Besides, all who claim Jewish today freely intermarry with Gentles

The so called Jews who can't come up with one religion but spiritually scattered just as Jesus foretold! Luke 11:23

Abeg who is their spiritual head today?

Àbí there is no Highpriest as Moses established it in his days?

Namaster:
Regardless of the religion, you can NEVER be a smart and religious person.
It's NOT possible.

The greatest intellectuals are Christians but since you don't know what Christ taught them you may be confused due to atheists claiming PASTORS in the churches of Christendom!

DaddyCoool:
You keep saying that this refered to Jesus when, if you'd be intellectually honest, it is actually Muhammad that perfectly fits the bill.
Consider:
He didn't say he'd raise a prophet from amongst them, but from amongst their brothers (Ishmael's children). "And I'll put my words in his mouth" - Muhammad could not read nor write - the Koran literally had to be put in his mouth.
"A prophet like you" - Christ was NOT at all like Moses while Muhammad a warrior like Moses, led an army like him, and ruled a people like him. Christ never did any of those - not even close.

I'm not saying these mean anything - those are just facts

*Moses served as GOD in his lifetime! Exodus 7:2
Jesus served as GOD in his lifetime! Isaiah 9:6

*Moses was a mediator of a covenant!
Jesus was a mediator of a covenant!

*Moses brought people out of literal slavery!
Jesus brought people out of spiritual slavery!

*Moses was the first human to perform miracles!
Jesus was the last prophet to perform greatest miracles.

*Moses was the meekest of all men in his time! Number 12:3
Jesus was the meekest in all history!

*Moses introduced God's laws to Israel!
Jesus introduced God's laws to believers.

sonmvayina:
Of what relevance is he then? To Jehovah's witnesses!!!

He is the only reason why we believe in the God of Abraham because he fulfilled the prophecies having to do with Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} that helps faithful people throughout the earth to do away with weapons just as God promised! Psalms 46:9

sonmvayina:
should be worshipped as he is the son of God....

You keep forgetting that we JWs don't worship Jesus, how many times do you want me to tell you this simple thing?

Sand2022:
Several religious organizations teach pacifism and discourage or prohibit their members from engaging in war. Some of the most well-known groups include:
1. Quakers (Religious Society of Friends) – They are well known for their strong pacifist stance and have historically refused to bear arms.
2. Seventh-day Adventists (Historic Position) – While not universally pacifist, many Adventists have served as conscientious objectors, working as medics instead of soldiers.
3. Mennonites – They follow the Anabaptist tradition, which emphasizes nonviolence and a rejection of military service.
4. Amish – Like the Mennonites, they uphold a strict stance against violence and war.
5. Christadelphians – They believe in political neutrality and do not engage in military service.
6. Doukhobors – A Christian sect from Russia, known for their pacifist beliefs and refusal to serve in the military.
So not only JWs. I don't see that as any proof of God's backing anyway. But since that's your proof, these ones must also have God's spirit. Right?

Read the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 again:

*In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream.

*And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem.

*He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore.

* It must be people who have come from all nations on planet earth!

* They must be studying the Bible with people around them apart from studying in their place of worship.

* They will use what they found in God's word to resolve their disparities peacefully among themselves divert their resources into production of food and information materials stop producing buying selling and using weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone!

So Mr PIMO are those religions known in your village as preachers coming to disturb them for Bible study like Jehovah's Witnesses often does? Matthew 10:11-13

Janosky:
Is everyone resident in your apartment in human form?
God is a spirit, (John 4:24) resident in heaven.
Everyone God sees in heaven is in the form of God, the form of spirits.
Please allow your brain to function nau.

I wonder o!

God lives in heaven with angels yet this man is asking if God's spirit sons have the form of their father who is also a spirit!

sonmvayina:
The Jews did not reject Jesus. They just don't have any tradition about him. He is no where in their history....it does not matter what the Christian are saying.

They surely do but rejected him so God brought all the curses that Moses said upon them.

There nation has been rejected by God and never will they exist as a nation again!

TheDevilsBride:
I hear you. Abeg while you're at it, remember to sprinkle some pixie dust for us, at least to end world hunger and poverty. Joker .

To do that He will have to exterminate all your rulers {Daniel 2:44} because they are in control of the resources it's only the ones in our possession that we are using for our benefit! Isaiah 48:17

TheDevilsBride:
God is at liberty to arbitrarily decide the best way to prove himself, and I'm supposed to just take a seat, watch on, and applaud like a mindless drone? Nah, I'll pass on that one, my dear.

I accepted that but if you don't that's not my problem to me after following the process i have come to agree that He exists and He is GOOOOOOOOD!

MrPresident1:
Me I am you Conqueror and Master
You attacked me and I defeated you and you ran away and I have come into your fortress to gloat and to sit on your head.
Now give your Master an answer
In the context of the Law and commandments of God, a revolt would mean what?

OK o!

Gabrielshow24:
So technically to you angels are in the form of God🤔.
Think wisely before you reply

If they are not why are humans worshiping Satan and demons who are fallen angels?

CanadaOrBust:
Jehovah Witnesses don't believe in hell. Are you one?

Many of them have read our publications but instead of telling others about their discoveries they want to get the credit as if they found it themselves!

MrPresident1:
We are here
Maxindhouse come out, we your Master summon you to come out
We have come into your stronghold!

You are not the first neither can you be the last to beg for my attention on this forum:

MightySparrow:
I know it is paining maximumSide

MightySparrow:
What makes anything scientific is it's repeatability, universality, and timelessness. Our own God is proven to be true and trustworthy every time, everywhere, in every situation.
... letter killeth, it is the spirit that giveth live.
I pity people who believe that their own god is on holiday.
I believe in miracles.
Hallelujah.
CC: maximumSide

MightySparrow:
You should understand the position of Olukoya. He introduced prayer of enemies and no mercy to pentecostal arena. He doesn't believe in mercy and forgiveness.
Every enemy, real and perceived are to die by fire of hell or prison.
The poor choir leader has a wrong enemy. Only God can deliver him..
cc: maximumSide

In fact some couldn't hold themselves together so they have to set up threads in my name:

https://www.nairaland.com/7075625/maxindhouse-come-defend-watchtower-bible

https://www.nairaland.com/7423956/maxindhouse-why-did-jesus-allow

https://www.nairaland.com/7835507/exposition-jesus-ex-member-maxindhouses-orgarnisation
https://www.nairaland.com/7779034/maxindahouse-what-charms-did-see
https://www.nairaland.com/7696735/maxindhouse-organisations-community-vs-jewish
https://www.nairaland.com/7696756/maxindhouse-org-call-home-call
https://www.nairaland.com/7903820/maxindhouse-come-see-o-ten
https://www.nairaland.com/8225952/maxindhouse-why-does-oganisation-not
https://www.nairaland.com/8306598/escaping-maxindhouses-organisation

https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse

But it doesn't stop honest hearted and sincere individuals from acknowledging the gift of God's Holy Spirit in Maximus:

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

Jacktheripper:
This sounds particularly interesting.

So my guy if you want to learn from me all you need to do is humble yourself i'm not more than just one single member out of millions of Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the earth!

TheDevilsBride:
Those fairy tales, saccharine feel-good narratives that they are, may have momentarily distracted from racism, but they've also been co-opted by the devoutly dogmatic to justify it in the same breath. Meanwhile, logic and reason, have been diligently dismantling racist ideologies, mercilessly, one empirically-supported fact at a time, rendering spurious appeals to divine intervention utterly redundant and ludicrous, lol.

Guy abeg reduce the grammar i know sabi all these English don't think i'm one of those your former pastors who always use their eloquence to intimidate their audience so speak simple and easy to grasp English Sir!

What i mean is there is no LOGIC or REASON that could uproot the hatred caused by racism and politics but the so called FAIRY TALES book has solved that in the midst of its true adherents globally.

Do you get it now?

TheDevilsBride:
After all, chair is god, table is god, banana is god, toilet is god, bowl is god, fridge is god, cobwebs is god, babalawo is god etc etc lol.

You see what i mean?

Instead of asking for the meaning of that statement you choose to give it your own meaning and so you think you have solved the riddle!

Well it simply means He will choose the best way to prove Himself so all you need to do is watch out for how He choose to do so not you dictating how He should prove His worth!

SheikhMuniru:
Igbos aren't political, which weed you smoke

Most of you are kids and you're not ready to learn.

Go to Igbo land and verify if an average Igbo man is submissive to any other man as his superior when he is richer.

Both Hausa and Yorùbá do have respect for rulers no matter how richer they are than the ruler as long as such titles are part of their culture but Igbos aren't like that that's why they found it really hard to fit in to politics as each of them is fighting for his own right.