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Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by MaxInDHouse(op): 5:02pm On Nov 22, 2024
Jesus was enthroned in heaven!
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 003 What Is Unforgivable Sin? by MaxInDHouse(op): 5:01pm On Nov 22, 2024
Speaking against the fruitage of the spirit of God operating in the midst of humans.
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(op): 5:00pm On Nov 22, 2024
Christians: followers of Jesus.

Jehovah's Witnesses: faithful people throughout all generations.
Christianity Etc › Re: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:07pm On Nov 22, 2024
Petalss:
Not everyone will agree on doctrinal issues, even within the same denomination, as interpretations often vary. That being said, I genuinely want to understand his personal perspective on the phrase, "every eye will see Him in the sky."Does he interpret it literally, believing it refers to a physical, visible event, or metaphorically, as a symbolic or spiritual occurrence? While I appreciate hearing your interpretation, I would also value hearing his thoughts directly. Please allow him to share his viewpoint.
He's on the hot sit now as he's trying to prove that he could be a believer without being part of God's organized people.
You can see that he's not arguing that JWs aren't Christians like most of his people but that it's not only JWs that are Christians.
Now he's angry saying JWs are an organization not church of Christ.
Oya ask him to mention a church of Christ and give evidence of what they're PRACTICING as proof.
As for your question he has been thrown off balance so he doesn't know what next to say about that, i know them very well but if you're still waiting for his response on the issue i wish you the best! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:59pm On Nov 22, 2024
Captain4Jehovah:
IF IT IS PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR CHRISTIANS, I MEAN BORN OF GOD TO POSSESS ALL THE FRUIT, THEN NO ONE IS FIT FOR GOD'S KINGDOM! IT'S THE WILL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT_IT IS PRODUCED BY THE SPIRIT_WHEN ONE SURRENDERS ALL TO HIM. See every Christian MUST STRUGGLE TO HAVE IT INDIVIDUALLY. Who are you if you don't have love for God and your neighbors? What would unbelievers call you if you don't have joy or what would be your stand before God even in a difficult situation if you don't have it? What would the world call you if you don't have and pursue peace with all men? The same with patience, kindness, goodness, mildness, faith in every difficult situations, and self control! I wonder what the livelihood of Christians would be in this perverse generation without the fruit!
Man, you have to CONTINUE struggling in order to have It.
Thanks that you mentioned JW IS AN ORGANIZATION NOT A CHURCH BUILT BY CHRIST!
This is where most of you failed to understand God's word!

If any human can exhibit the complete fruit of God's Holy Spirit then there's no reason for GRACE (UNDESERVED KINDNESS) of God it is because imperfect humans are willing to do God's will but our imperfect body will never allow us that's why God said the anointed ones were chosen by GRACE.

You didn't work on what i told you:

Mention one person in the whole Bible who exhibited the complete fruit of God's Holy Spirit.

Ọmọ none of them, you can go and ask those who know the Bible better than you to point out one single person who exhibited the complete fruit of God's Holy Spirit.

The secret is that as long as we are living with imperfect body we can't exhibit the complete fruit of God's Holy Spirit {Romans 7:15-25 compare to James 3:2} unlike Jesus a perfect being with perfect body that's why he is the teacher through whom we are learning and until after a thousand years of intensive training from Jesus no human can exhibit the complete fruit of God's Holy Spirit.

That's why the Bible says it's after we have become perfect at the end of Christ's 1,000 years reign that Satan will be released to test PERFECT not imperfect humans to know if they truly love God before we can have everlasting life on earth. Revelations 20:1-5

So it's only by observing an organization of true believers in Christ that one can perceive all the qualities in the gathering of imperfect humans {Matthew 5:14-16} not that any single human can exhibit the complete fruit of God's Holy Spirit!
Christianity Etc › Re: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:56pm On Nov 22, 2024
Petalss:
Kindly allow Captain4Jehovah whom I referenced to clarify my question or confirm whether what you’ve stated aligns with his own intended meaning.
It can't just as all Muslims don't agree on doctrinal issues so if you want to know something there's no need looking for contradictions rather think of what is BENEFICIAL to one and all! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is Not The Almighty God by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:10am On Nov 22, 2024
cooltember:
HOW MEN MADE JESUS CHRIST GOD.

The position of Jesus Christ in relation to God Almighty, whether he was a god, God Himself, divine, human or simply God’s Son was the prevailing situation on ground when a certain man of questionable beliefs, Caesar Flavius Constantine, became the Emperor of Rome, something akin to the selected President of the world.

Perhaps no one can talk about the origin of the Christian Trinity without mentioning the name of this man, Caesar Flavius Constantine, otherwise called ‘Emperor Constantine the Great'.

This is the man, history tells us, that almost single handedly converted the Son of God, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, to God the Son, term that cannot be seen in the Bible.

But he was not the one that created the Trinity Doctrine in Christianity. He just laid down the framework for what was to come.

The Trinity Doctrine was created in 381 AD, fifty-one years after he ruled that Jesus Christ is the same being as God and must be worshiped as God.

Caesar Flavius Constantine is a pagan who worshiped idols and his god was the sun god called Mithras, another name for Baal. As a pagan, he claimed he saw a vision of, and used a kind of symbol that many claim was a Cross symbol, as a war banner and won a war against his adversaries.

Convinced that it was a Christian symbol, the Emperor claimed he had accepted Christianity in the year 313 AD.

With his conversion the victimization, arrest and torture of Christians in the whole of the Roman Empire during which many of the Disciples and their new followers were slaughtered, were ordered to stop.

In a book, 'The Trinity Doctrine: Know The truth', the writer noted that Christians became open friends with their pagan hosts and their faiths became united with that of the pagans who saw in the new Christian religion of their converted Emperor, many similarities with that of theirs.

Many of them unfaithfully accepted the new faith but faithfully continued with their pagan practices openly because, in truth, old habits die hard.

Majority of the converted Romans essentially remained pagans and continued with their pagan festivals and rituals without hindrance as no new laws were enacted then, to ban the practice of idolatry.

They were Christians not necessarily by faith but by word of mouth.

Christianity became officially recognized when the Emperor subsequently enacted the ‘Edict of Milan or ‘the Edict of Tolerance’ where he made a law that anyone can practice the religion of his or her choice.

This gave the Jews and the converted Gentiles freedom to resume worshiping their God as they were taught by the early Church fathers without fear. They were now automatically made equal citizens with the native Romans by one single edict and all persecutions against them were stopped overnight.

No more excessive taxes or death sentences for being a practicing Jew or Christian. This was almost unbelievable news to the Christians then.

But this was also the beginning of the rot that led to the introduction of many pagan practices into Christianity from that year up to the next two hundred and fifty years. In the past, Christmas, Easter and Sunday worship were strictly carried out by pagans before it was introduced into Christianity by the pagan priest-turned Catholic Bishops.

Before and during the reign of Emperor Constantine, there was already discord in the Christian Churches. Most of the Western Greek speaking Christians already see Jesus and his mother Mary as another form of their mother goddess and her son, a belief which their Eastern Latin counterparts do not share.

The argument about the deity or divinity of Jesus Christ, though in circulation much more outside the Churches then, came into focus when two prominent opposition figures, in the then growing faith, confronted each other inside a Church over the matter in the year 318 A.D.

This occurred when the deity of Jesus Christ was first preached in a Church in Alexandria by the Bishop of Alexandria. This was seven years before the matter was brought before a Church Council organized by the pagan Emperor Constantine.

The controversy broke out in the Church in Alexandria when one of the senior Church members, Arianus (also known as Arius), verbally attacked the choice of words used by the Bishop of Alexandria to describe Jesus in relation to God.

Arianus was a strong believer in the original teachings of the Bible and a well respected clergyman whose views about the growing Greek philosophies made him reject the position of Bishop of Alexandria before the incumbent was approved.

The Bishop not only sacked Arianus from the Church for daring to oppose his newly discovered teachings about the equality of Jesus Christ with the Father, he also condemned him as a heretic, making Arianus flee to the non-Trinitarian part of the territory for his dear life.

The new belief that Jesus Christ is equal with the Father started to gain grounds in the Western Churches and was being publicly preached to the astonishment of the Greek speaking people who see Jesus already as ‘God’. They had always believed in god's and sons of gods and mother goddesses. That was what their faith teaches.

Meanwhile, in the Eastern parts of the empire, the parts surrounding and closest to the Palestine region where the gospel of Jesus Christ emanated from, the belief that Jesus was the Son of God and not God the Son was much more widely accepted. The people never thought or preached that Jesus Christ was God.

Later, among the clergy, this controversy continued with the Church members totally ignorant about what was going on since they were not permitted to own Bibles as at that time.

Because only the Clergy had access to the Bible, the main controversy raged between them, each with their own die-hard supporters who believe anything they teach. How fortunate we are today that we can buy the Bible on the street and read ourselves.
But many Christians are like robots being controlled by their Church leaders to the extent that they only believe what they are told. What they are taught somehow beclouds what the Bible actually teaches, but they don't see or note it again.

Though the Arian belief, which was championed by Arianus, (that Jesus was the Son of God, was created by God and was thus subordinate to him), was the most popular belief then, the three-in-one-god believing Greeks, championed by Bishop Athanasius, (a close friend of Bishop Alexander, and many of the Greek speaking Bishops), that Jesus Christ was God himself also reigned supreme in the Greek speaking areas.

Let us remember that the Greeks were the ones who were already worshiping gods, mothers of gods and sons of gods.

This division was real but never addressed by the Church as a body until Emperor Constantine the great came into power. He called for a meeting with almost all the Bishops in his enclave in his palace.

Despite the fact that he was still the head of the pagan cult of Mithras, the sun-god, the Bishops obeyed his call as the head of the Empire. It was clear to all then that the most important thing the Emperor wanted was peace in his domain.

The warring factions needed to come together to agree on some specific issues that were causing discord and threatening the peace of the Empire then. These issues included, the Christmas and Easter day celebrations, Saturday Sabbath and the Sunday worship of the Sun-god, Mithras, another name for Baal.

As regards the divinity of Jesus Christ, there were actually three opposing groups at the conference but only two of the groups were quite vociferous and fanatical in their beliefs.

The major stands championed by the leaders of the vociferous two groups may be summarized below:

Arianus’ major stand was that:

“Jesus is not God, although he could be called 'divine.' He was made by God so there was a time when he did not exist! He was made out of nothing and is, therefore, of an entirely different substance (or ‘Person’ or Essence) from that of God. He must not be worshiped as the One True God”.

Athanasius’ stand was that:

“Jesus is absolutely equal to the Father. He has always existed beside the Father. He is of the very same substance or essence as the Father. He is absolute God and must be worshiped as God”.

The American People’s Encyclopedia, 1954, says that almost two-thirds of Bishops at the council belonged to the third group which does not subscribe to the views of these two learned but opposing parties.

These were known as the Semi-Arians and were led by Eusebius, Bishop of Caesarea.

This group did not believe that Jesus Christ was made out of nothing. They believe that Jesus did not always exist as he was begotten at a certain time and strongly agreed with the Arians that Jesus was not God and must not be worshiped as God.

The summary of the belief of the Semi-Arians was that:

“The Father generated Jesus from a substance similar (Homoiousios) to His own. He is not equal to God, but is subordinate to Him, even though he is above all the rest of creation. Jesus must not be worshiped as the One True God”.

The Greek speaking Bishops who believed that Jesus Christ was the Almighty God (this is not surprising because the Greeks already have a pantheon of ‘gods’, sons of gods and mothers of gods which they were worshiping long before Christianity was preached to them) were the least in number of the three groups while the Semi-Arians had about two hundred of the about three hundred men in attendance.

Many of the Latin speaking Bishops, including the Bishop of Rome himself, refused to attend the meeting that was held in the year 325 A.D. In his absence, Bishop Hosius, the Bishop of Cordova, a special adviser to the Emperor on Church matters, stood for him as the head of the Christian Bishops.

It was at that meeting, chaired by a largely pagan Emperor, Constantine the Great, that it was decided that Jesus Christ and Almighty God were one and the same being and that none was greater than the other.

With this conclusion, the Bishops unanimously passed the Nicene Creed by force and claimed that it was the decision of God.

Anyone who opposed their view became State enemy and must be killed. And truly, hundreds of thousands of Christians were killed over this matter before the belief became widely accepted under duress.

Till this day, most Pastors preach according to their beliefs that Jesus Christ is the Almighty God.

They were not told what led to that anomaly. Though some may know that Jesus is not the Almighty God, fear of loosing their mentors and what they gain from this lie, makes them to shut up.

To them, it is better to follow the status quo and make more money than to be called an 'heretic'.

But I will always enlighten my brothers and sisters in Christ about the truth.
They will not believe you!
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:07am On Nov 22, 2024
God's organized people have achieved what Jesus promised globally! Act 1:8
Christianity Etc › Re: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by MaxInDHouse(m):
johnw47:
i never said that oh cannot stop deceiving false jw.
johnw47:
paul grundy and i are preachers.
It's OK now who is the liar?

Please next time don't run after Max because i am a million times more intelligent than you.

Goodbye! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:02am On Nov 22, 2024
Captain4Jehovah:
You highlighted the fruit of the spirit WHICH EVERY CHRISTIAN MUST HAVE REGARDLESS HIS DENOMINATION. SO, THIS IS NOT LIMITED TO YOUR GATHERING ALONE!
Imperfect humans can never ever exhibit the complete fruit of God's Holy Spirit that's why you can never mention one person in the Bible who did but the organization that's under the control of the Spirit of God will as imperfect humans come together and the fruit will become obvious in their gathering: LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, FAITH and SELF-CONTROL. Galatians 5:22-23
The one and only organization that's promoting these is Jehovah's Witnesses that's none negotiable.

Captain4Jehovah:
I say it again, RAPTURE HAS NOT HAPPENED!
If you don't agree with what i told you it's OK keep whatever you believe on this one.

Captain4Jehovah:
It seems you don't know what PEACE is! Peace of God starts from the inward of man_it's like a gentle flow of river.
PEACE is one of the qualities of God's Holy Spirit each person can say he or she has peace but then when they come into the gathering of other humans that's the time it will become obvious that peace should work out benefits among those professing faith in God. Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3; Zephaniah 3:9

Captain4Jehovah:
The UN IS NOT OVER THE WORLD GOVERNMENT NOW, THEY ARE NOT CONTROLLING THE WORLD GOVERNMENT BUT RATHER NEGOTIATING PEACE AMONG NATIONS. SO, THEY ARE NOT RULING FORCEFULLY. Read Revelation 13 yourself.
There is no reason arguing further on this so keep whatever you believe on this topic.
Christianity Etc › Re: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:19am On Nov 22, 2024
johnw47:
paul grundy and i are preachers.
You shouldn't have said:
johnw47:
one doesn't have to be a preacher to have the truth.
If you're sure that Paul Grundy is a preacher of God's word.

I'm no longer interested in your own church as you have failed over the years to mention one but now tell me the name of the ministry Paul Grundy is working with if you're not a liar! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:15am On Nov 22, 2024
johnw47:
extremely dum lost false jw mad max
your saying that olaadegbu, emusan and myself are the same person
and saying that the Holy Spirit told you that, is indeed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit
making out the Holy Spirit is a liar:
lost blasphemer false jw mad max:
Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Character!

You're just looking for what to say when you don't know anything, blasphemy against God's Holy Spirit means antagonizing the obvious fruit of God's Holy Spirit in the gathering of imperfect humans.
People can't see the Holy Spirit but when it's operating on imperfect humans the fruit will be obvious so anyone speaking against such fine fruits {Galatians 5:22-23} which is impossible among imperfect humans is the one blaspheming the spirit of God! Matthew 12:31-32
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Rapture Real ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:09am On Nov 22, 2024
johnw47:
lost false jw mad max
i'm not an encyclopedia on paul grundy,
so you cannot give evidence that paul grundy doesn't have faith in the Bible,
of course you don't oh fraud:
Mat_7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Ọmọ you're just a character!

You believe him yet you don't even know what ministry he belongs to.

Well thanks for your time! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 029 Where Are The Other Gods Today? by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:15am On Nov 22, 2024
mysticwarrior:
Zoroastrianism believes in Ahura Mazda which they described as a supreme God.
Can you please tell us how this God introduced itself to them? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Rapture Real ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:14am On Nov 22, 2024
johnw47:
give evidence that paul grundy doesn't have faith in the Bible, oh lost deceiver.
Does he believe in any ministry that's preaching God's word? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:12am On Nov 22, 2024
johnw47:
lost false jw mad max
truly most dum one, blaspheming the Holy Spirit is not the fruit of the Holy Spirit:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Surely you don't even know what blasphemy is because if you do you won't be accusing the one and only organization that's teaching imperfect humans to yield positivity regarding the fruit of God's Holy Spirit! Galatians 5:22-23 smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:10am On Nov 22, 2024
johnw47:
one doesn't have to be a preacher to have the truth.
So you mean Jesus lied when he said:

“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6

Whoever doesn't know Jesus has not come to know the truth and all those who knew Jesus must be his disciples PREACHING and TEACHING what he taught. Matthew 28:18-20

So i ask you again:

Can someone who doesn't preach Jesus know the truth about God? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Rapture Real ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:34am On Nov 22, 2024
johnw47:
i answered that the word rapture isn't in the Bible
So there's no reason to believe what is not in the Bible anyway you can't be blamed since you do swallow anything that comes your way hook line and sinker.

For example you said:
johnw47:
i believe jwfacts..com
Whereas the owner Paul Grundy doesn't have faith in the Bible! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:29am On Nov 22, 2024
johnw47:
the truth.
How can a person who doesn't believe in God's word have the truth?

You said:
johnw47:
i believe jwfacts..com
Paul Grundy the owner of jwfacts.com is not a preacher of God's word so how can he have the truth? cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:24am On Nov 22, 2024
johnw47:
i know for a fact that you and janosky blasphemed the Holy Spirit.
I just told you the fruit of God's Holy Spirit and how a group (Jehovah's Witnesses) are yielding it globally but you're bent on ACCUSING this wonderful group.
So you are the accuser of God's people who is empty-headed yet thinking he knew something.

The fruit of the spirit of God is LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, FAITH and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23} this is what Apostle Paul said the Christians should promote anywhere they are because against such things there is no law!

So if you don't know any group performing in this regard yet accusing the one and only organization meeting up with this assignment then it's the ADVERSARY you're working for! 1Peter 5:8
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Rapture Real ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:12am On Nov 22, 2024
johnw47:
it isn't.
So RAPTURE is just an idea promoted by some religionists it's nowhere to be found in God's word.
Thank you! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:06am On Nov 22, 2024
johnw47:
paul grundy is the owner of jwfacts..
You said you BELIEVE him.
So what is the name of his church? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 5:54am On Nov 22, 2024
johnw47:
truly lost false jw mad max
it isn't Jesus who is leading you false prophets and blasphemers of the holy spirit etc.
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
You can continue deceiving yourself but it's clear that Jehovah's Witnesses are doing the work Jesus assigned to his disciples which is preaching and teaching people everywhere to have faith in God's Kingdom {Matthew 28:19-20} and many have vowed never to raise weapons against their neighbors or learn war anymore! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

That's what they are supposed to achieve even though they don't fully understand everything Jesus said in the spirit! John 21:22-23 smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 029 Where Are The Other Gods Today? by MaxInDHouse(op): 5:51am On Nov 22, 2024
Today there are many spirits deceiving people throughout the earth using names found in the Bible to scam unsuspecting individuals into false religions! 2Corinthians 11:14-15
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Rapture Real ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:46am On Nov 22, 2024
johnw47:
Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at
Pro_10:10  He who winks the eye causes trouble,
Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;
lost false jw mad max
simpleton, the rapture certainly is real, no matter what name you call it by:
1Co 15:51  Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, 
1Co 15:52  in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
1Th 4:16  For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 
1Th 4:17  Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 
that of course never happened in 1878 as prophecised by you false jw's:
and Jesus never returned in 1874 either, or 1914 or any other false date you people may have given,
and the end of the world never occurred in 1914 either:
Mat_7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Do you know where the word RAPTURE is found written in the Bible? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 5:41am On Nov 22, 2024
They have taken the message of peace to every country on planet earth today {Act 1:8} and throughout the earth Jesus' real disciples known today as Jehovah's Witnesses have vowed never to raise weapons against their neighbors or learn war anymore! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3
Christianity Etc › Re: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by MaxInDHouse(m):
johnw47:
lost false jw mad max
of course you don't believe your own publications, they are very embarrassing to you false jw's, aren't they,
you could go elsewhere and get with the truth, but no, your father the devil has you puffed up ones hooked:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
You dodged the question! smiley

OK i'm making it easier for everyone to see your folly.

Please mention a reputable preacher on jwfacts.com so that we can all know that the group are real believers not enemies of truth! John 3:19 smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:29am On Nov 22, 2024
Petalss:
Does in the SKY not make his statement sound literally seeing him in the sky? I still want him to explain how all eyes will see him.
If a celebrity either musician, movie actor or politician say "my star is shining in the sky" does it mean people are seeing a literal star in the sky that's shining in his name?
Come on what Jesus meant is that his teachings will gain group in all the nations of the world among faithful people and the whole world will notice a group that's practicing what he taught even though they are few in number! Matthew 5:14-16
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 5:22am On Nov 22, 2024
johnw47:
How 1919 is Derived; jwfacts..com


giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


Evil Slave

Watchtower has been strongly critical of followers that left during this period, and spent almost a century describing them as the "evil slave class.” (Note: the doctrine of whom the evil slave class changed in 2013)

"The modern-day history of Jehovah's witnesses shows that attempts have been made by some, making up an "evil slave" class, to assume control over Jehovah's work and his people." Watchtower 1971 Jul 15 p.437

Many Watchtower followers left during this the period after 1914, recognising Watchtower as a false prophet, falsely teaching that the New System would arrive in 1914.

Prominent members removed themselves from the organisation as well, taking offence at the leadership of Rutherford.

"Following Brother Russell’s death, some who had been prominently associated with the organization fell away." Jehovah's Witnesses-Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.257

After the death of Russell, Rutherford took control of The Watch Tower Society. In his will, Russell had outlined a list of 5 recommended names for the Editorial Committee. ("Will and Testament of Charles Taze Russell" Watchtower 1915 Dec 1 reprints p.5999) Despite not being on this preferred list, Rutherford took leadership, and enforced this through a legal battle against the other directors.

Rutherford went on to commission the printing of The Finished Mystery without obtaining the permission of the directors, as required by the Watchtower charter.

"At noon, July 17, 1917, this book was released at the Bethel dining room table. As Brother Russell had been accustomed to do, Brother Rutherford gave a present of this book to each member of the Bethel family. It came as a bombshell. Completely surprised by its release, the opposing members of the board of directors immediately seized upon this issue and made it the occasion of a five-hour controversy over the administration of the Society's affairs." Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose p.70

Watchtower has used the term evil slave to vilify those followers that could not in good conscience align themselves with an organisation that have proven itself to be a false prophet, and attack the directors that could not align themselves with its new leader that aggressively took control and introduced new doctrine that were far fetched, law breaking, and are even more embarrassing to read today.

The period 1914 to 1919 is the low point of their history, yet now described as the time that Jesus chose them to lead his organisation. 1914 had proven to be false prophecy, with not a single prediction for that year taking place. In 1916, the founder, Pastor Russell, died and Rutherford took leadership in a hostile takeover embroiled in legal battles. From there he launched a platform to dramatically change the religion over the next two decades.

It should be a matter of grave concern for each of Jehovah's Witnesses that the underlying doctrine for 1919, the year so key to their leadership's authoritarian claims, rests on such baseless Scriptural and historical manipulation.
If Jesus in the first century said:


“I am the resurrection and the life. The one who exercises faith in me, even though he dies, will come to life;  and everyone who is living and exercises faith in me will never die at all. Do you believe this?” John 11:25-26

But none among them is still living here on this planet today then Jehovah's Witnesses are right that he is the one leading their group since 1914 because what you quoted in their publications is exactly what Jesus said back then, he never mentioned any specific date rather he raised the hope of his listeners and many of them had a wrong expectation just as they does today! John 21:22-23 smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:58pm On Nov 21, 2024
Kingsempires:
but there are so much things that have happened even before the 20th century
That's a lie!
People may deceive themselves thinking they are smart but there has never been a time the Good News of PEACE about Jesus' Kingdom was preached by peace loving people to this extent globally! Matthew 24:14

So don't allow anyone to continue deceiving you!

Christianity Etc › Re: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:21pm On Nov 21, 2024
Petalss:
Please HOW will every eyes see HIM?
Every eyes here doesn't mean the literal eyes rather seeing what Jesus stood for through the activities of his (real) disciples on earth. Act 1:8

Today throughout the earth people are seeing the real Jesus as they are now treating his real disciples exactly the way they treated him and his disciples in the first century!
Christianity Etc › Re: Am I Going To Hell For Being Catholic ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:30pm On Nov 21, 2024
Kingsempires:
mister maxindhouse don't be angry at my question;
So how do you know that Jesus started ruling heaven since 1914 ?
Is it prove from the bible?
His disciples asked him saying:

“Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?" Matthew 24:3

In some translations the highlighted in red is rendered sign of your coming but the Greek word they translated is closely related to presence than coming.

According to that verse Jesus' presence as King of God's Kingdom in heaven is what they are asking for since no human on earth can see what is happening in heaven but the sign is what we will feel here.

Jesus' response at Matthew 24:4-14 began happening on earth since the year 1914 just as the Bible said that Satan was ousted in heaven and the earth will be in trouble. Revelations 12:7-12 smiley

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