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tfrancis:
In the chapter above, the bible did not tell you not to use them, but says "....let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price."

Bible is saying ornament of meek and quiet spirit, humility, a submissive woman before her husband is a great price before God. That's God value it more than jewelries. You focus should be this more than jewelries....man/woman inside should be more decorated than outward appearance. May the Lord help us! Shalom!!!

You got it right but some religions like Chosen and Deeperlife have misconstrue that verse telling people it's a sin to use jewelries so if this is what you meant not what Deeperlife and Chosen teaches then you're 100% correct!

ocnovakmichael:
okay. I think you could use an original dictionary more often: the one you didn't write yourself.

Is it the dictionary (book written by pagans) that should define who are Christians or the Bible God's word?

I showed you what Jesus and Paul said about Christians you want to ignore that for what is written in a book by unbelievers.

Well when talking about SPIRITUAL things the dictionary has no say true Christians must have the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} which will make them have love among themselves {John 13:34-35} not different religion CLAIMING they believe in Christ yet there is no unity among them.
For your information any religion that's not in harmony with another but claiming they have the same belief with others is founded on lies not the truth.
That's what Jesus said!

When he had come into the region of Caes·a·reʹa Phi·lipʹpi, Jesus asked his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?”  They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E·liʹjah, and still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” He said to them: “You, though, who do you say I am?” Simon Peter answered: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”  In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Joʹnah, because flesh and blood did not reveal it to you, but my Father in the heavens did." Matthew 16:13-17

I believe this is clear enough!

ocnovakmichael:
Hmmm. I think I underestimated your logic. So Christendom is different from the collection of Christians?

Christendom means different religious groups with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they are worshiping the same God but Christians are members of one group having the same line of thought {1Corinthians 1:10} and one mind! John 17:22

Kayberg:
JW.
Why are you asking when you already know he is the founder of JW?

You've been thoroughly misinformed!

Charles Taze Russell in his days used to celebrate his birthday, Christmas, called pastor and never preached from house to house.
Now i asked you once again do you think that is the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization?

Women of old do put on jewelries!

When he saw the nose ring and the bracelets on the hands of his sister and heard the words of his sister Re·bekʹah, who was saying, “This is the way the man spoke to me,” he came to meet the man, who was still there standing by the camels at the spring. Genesis 24:30

Thugnificent:
Makes no sense

The word SHEOL (Hebrew) HADES (Greek) and Hell (English) originally means GRAVE but after the churches of Christendom has welcomed Greek philosophy into their teachings they now believe that there is a place where the dead are being tormented alive!

ocnovakmichael:
You're not far from the truth brother. However, the brother in that article is not wrong for saying, "God of Bishop... show yourself."
Often we have prayed and sung "God of Elijah send down fire," haven't we?

Churches of Christendom use to sing that a lot of times not Christians!

Kayberg:
He already made you believe his self-established religion. So, you worship his god.

Charles Taze Russell establish which religion?

floss:
Criminals in sheep’s clothing

Matthew 7:16-18

They are wise and can see from far distance like EAGLES the BODY that's serving undiluted spiritual food in this end time:

So in response (Apostles) said to (Jesus): “Where, Lord?” (Jesus) said to them: “Where the BODY is, there also the EAGLES will be gathered together" Luke 17:37

They have IDENTIFIED Jesus' spiritual brothers who were chosen to lead his people in our time! Matthew 25:40

ocnovakmichael:
Friend, the Bible both teaches and encourages having a spiritual father (Hebrews 6:12). And in the day of trouble, it won't be an injustice to call on the name of the God of your spiritual father as Elisha did when he cried, "where is the God of Elijah". Even the sorcerers knew this, in casting out demons, when they say, "We adjure you in the name of Jesus whom Paul serve." The only problem they had was that Paul was not their spiritual father and they were not born again children of God, and as such have not the right/power to cast out that demon (John 1:12)

Jesus has spoken:

But you, do not you be called Rabbi, for one is your Teacher, and all of you are brothers. Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One. Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ. Matthew 23:8-10

Of course we do have people who taught us the way of holiness just as God commanded Israelite parents to teach their children {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} and we surely need to see such ones as our parents but then calling on the same God they serve differs from calling God as if He belongs to them, we are all worshipers of the same God provided we strive to live by the rules of the same God {1Corinthians 1:10} that's what causes confusion today as someone will say "the God of Kumuyi" another will say "the God of Adeboye" yet another will say "the God of Oyedepo" whereas these people aren't teaching the same thing which makes those following them to continue contradicting themselves.
Well i only call on the God of Jesus because that is the one and only perfect worshiper of my God who never for once committed any blunder so with him i feel like a conqueror all the time!

“No one can slave for two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will stick to the one and despise the other. You cannot slave for God and for Riches (Mammon)" Matthew 6:24
By their FRUITS you will know them {Matthew 7:16} Christianity is about preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom the only solution to mankind's problem but today many have chosen teachers for themselves to start telling them what they want to hear! 2Timothy 4:1-4

LordCenturion:
Mathew is a fvcking liar, Mathew was written by evil lying Paul in the first place before several modifications..
Oh, OK, kindly tell me the meaning sir

Because we are getting information that is free most people do pick whatever suit their wimp and take it up as factual instead of asking how such could have been possible in the first place. Regarding Paul being the writer of Matthew i reserve my comment on that for now.

The Bible told us that there were many angels God created in heaven they are all intelligent and mighty spirit beings {Job 38:7} these creatures have freewill just as humans so when some of them rebelled against God He did not destroy them immediately but stopped giving them information about His purposes this is why the Bible says they were thrown into darkness {2Peter 2:4} these creatures began working for another leader who is one of them a resister {Satan) and slanderer (devil)
So whenever God pass life saving information to His worshipers Satan and his cohorts look for ways to mislead God's people by telling them the exact opposite of what God said.
Bible translators made many mistakes in the past due to issues having to do with language so when you read what was written in 2Samuel 24:1-5 and 1Chronicles 21:1-5 you may miss out completely on the message.
This is how the New World Translation rendered it:

2Samuel 24:1-3
The anger of Jehovah again blazed against Israel when one incited David against them, saying: “Go, take a count of Israel and Judah.” So the king said to Joʹab the chief of the army who was with him: “Please go through all the tribes of Israel, from Dan to Beʹer-sheʹba, and register the people, so that I may know the number of the people.” But Joʹab said to the king: “May Jehovah your God multiply the people 100 times, and may the eyes of my lord the king see it, but why does my lord the king want to do such a thing?”


1 Chronicles 21:1-3
Then Satan stood up against Israel and incited David to number Israel. So David said to Joʹab and the chiefs of the people: “Go, count Israel from Beʹer-sheʹba to Dan; then report to me so that I may know their number.” But Joʹab said: “May Jehovah multiply his people 100 times! My lord the king, are not all of them already servants of my lord? Why does my lord want to do this? Why should he become a cause of guilt to Israel?”

From the two accounts it's clear now that a rebellious angel misled David to go against God's will but since David is imperfect he couldn't easily discern what was wrong with the message he received from that spirit.

In the end time God will send His Holy Spirit to help them so that Love, Joy and Peace will not depart from their gathering! Zechariah 4:6; Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3; Zephaniah 3:9

Kayberg:
Do you even understand my comment before quoting me? Even the god that Charles Taze Russell worships is not the GOD of heaven.

So who told you i'm worshiping the God of Taze Russell?

LordCenturion:
Before you read Otem’s book, first compare these two verses in the Bible: 1st Chronicles 21:1-5 and 2nd Samuel 24:1-5. There you will know that Satan is the same person called Jehovah.
MaxInDHouse.

You only need a Bible study with God's people Jehovah's Witnesses but if you want to know the meaning of those verses feel free to ask! Matthew 7:7-8

ocnovakmichael:
This is not about calling one father. This is following the faith of your spiritual father who is strong in faith unto God.

It's the same thing when Jesus said that we are not to call anyone "father" on earth he wasn't talking about our biological father nah it's the spiritual father that he was condemning!

What is the clear teaching of the Bible?

Kayberg:
But today, things have changed. Too many false prophets and men of men, and men of Satan claiming to be men of God.

Jesus corrected that notion in the first century when he told his listeners not to call anyone their father in the Lord {Matthew 23:8-10} that is why you can't hear of Christians calling on the God of Peter or Paul in the New Testament Paul rebuked those doing so:

For some from the house of Chloʹe have informed me regarding you, my brothers, that there are dissensions among you. What I mean is this, that each one of you says: “I belong to Paul,” “But I to A·polʹlos,” “But I to Ceʹphas,” “But I to Christ.”  Is the Christ divided? Paul was not executed on the stake for you, was he? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crisʹpus and Gaʹius. 1 Corinthians 12:11-14

Once you claim to be a Christian you're to be called a worshiper of the God of Jesus:

Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God." John 20:17

The God Jesus worshiped is my own God!

ocnovakmichael:
Of course, the one to call is your own God. However, it's not wrong to call upon the God of your spiritual father because the Bible teaches we should be followers of them who through faith obtain the promise. So it's not wrong to call upon the God of your spiritual father because Elisha did.
Hebrews 6:12
[12]That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

NO!

The God Elisha was referring to isn't the God of Elijah per say the context matters!

Elijah and Elisha were both Samaritans this is the ten tribes that broke away from the nation of Israel after the death of King Solomon and from that time this ten tribes began worshiping Canaanite gods that's why the Jews believe the Samaritans are worshipers of unknown demons {John 4:22} when Elijah started speaking against the idolatry going on in Samaria his own people hated him because they feel he supposed to be on their side with the supernatural power he possessed but he keep telling them that whoever wants to worship the God of Jacob must go to Jerusalem and do the rightful in the temple.

So Elisha was telling his own people that the God Elijah served which is the one worshiped inside the temple in Jerusalem is the only true God that's why he was referring to the God of Elijah because all other Samaritans left the true God and those who refused to worship Baal were hiding!

Good morning!
From November 4th to 18th makes two weeks today and no one not even your friend has not come back to anchor the topic again.
I want to believe that there are many Christlike people here who has interest in what a fellow has in his mind about faith in God's word and how to treat one's neighbor who needs help.
So i will wait patiently for the (Christlike ones) to contribute the discussion until then i rest my case on the matter.

Kingjite1:
Father Josiah Trenham, pastor of St. Andrew Orthodox Church, joins James Poulos to discuss modern-day Christianity in a technologically changing America. As an Orthodox pastor, he gives his thoughts on the Russia-Ukraine conflict and how Orthodox Christianity has changed in Russia since the fall of communism. Similarly, he explains Orthodox history in Israel and Gaza and how the Palestinian conflict has affected both Jews and Christians. How can Christians find anchors in modern Protestant churches when the world around them has turned to war? He argues there is a way to find faith and that America seems to be turning in a positive religious direction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v3a2XuHKlQ?si=6xDD8JqBhcpbRJXt

All world government are evil because they are operating under the influence of the wicked one Satan the devil the god of this world {1John 5:19; 2Corinthians 4:4} that's why God promised to destroy them all! Daniel 2:44

The one to call upon is your own God!

They will love their neighbors as themselves and have loyal love among themselves! Mark 12:31; John 13:34-35

MindHacker9009:
God Almighty of The Original Torah is the only True God!

Someone said

Franzinni:
God is not fathomable,
We are too limited in ability to perceive actual reality that we confuse our perceptions for the ultimate

Yet you say

MindHacker9009:
Well said!

You just love deceiving yourself, why not tell the poster that you know the Almighty God?

DSC7:
This is one question I have not really gotten a satisfactory answer to...
Like,Where was Lucifer when God Said "Let Us create Man in Our own Image"?..
Was he cast out after the creation or Before,🤔

The Bible said:

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1
Two locations one PLURAL (heavens) the other SINGULAR (earth)
Later we read that the sons of God were with Him in the heavens:

When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? Job 38:7

The word STARS connotes the location where these creatures are with God congregating in His presence:

Now the day came when the sons of the true God entered to take their station before Jehovah, and Satan also entered among them. Job 1:6

So all the angels lived in heaven with God in the beginning but when it comes to the creation only one angel was working side by side with God {Proverbs 8:22-30} therefore the statement "let us make" was a conversation between the Almighty God and His coworkers with whom all things were made! John 1:2 compare to Colossians 1:15-16

The group name "CHRISTIANS" was formed out of the title "CHRIST" the Jewish young man who claimed he is the Christ commissioned a global work and handed it over to his disciples (friends)
So it's those doing this work that were called CHRISTIANS by observers in an ancient city known as Antioch {Act 11:26} therefore before we can call anyone one of them such a person must be actively involved in the work Jesus of Nazareth assigned to his first century disciples! Matthew 28:19-20
There is a global group doing that work today and everything Jesus foretold about them in the scriptures is happening just as he prophesied!

RoiNews2:
For more than 3,000 years, this city has stood at the crossroads of civilizations, its significance growing with each conquest. It is sacred to Jews, Christians, and Muslims alike, each claiming it as their own, each willing to fight, to die, and to spill blood in the name of their faith.

Going through the words of Jesus of Nazareth the man called CHRIST it's obvious that there was no time his disciples engaged in battle with anyone over the possession of Jerusalem.
So anyone who has fought over Jerusalem can not be a follower of Jesus who is called CHRIST!

It's idolatry locked up in their brains so let the wolves in sheep's clothing scam them!

The problem is that title "PASTOR"
True Christians don't call anyone by titles that makes them seems unpunishable Christ taught us that we are all brothers {Matthew 23:8-10} so if anyone goes wrong he or she is reproved and for some time such ones loose the privilege of serving as officiating ministers.

That's not the case with Christendom churches so sincere worshipers will leave such a place of worship for yet another.

His father did not reveal it to anyone not even Jesus himself! Matthew 24:36