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MightySparrow:
The only religion that is doing what Jesus commanded.
In Matthew 23:23 , Jesus didn't command to stop tithing nah?
He only emphasize to concentrate on weightier part of the Law not to leave tithing unpaid.
What do you say?

Delusion!

FxMasterz:
demons can falsely preach about the Kingdom of God. But the kingdom is actually the kingdom of Satan in disguise.

Highlighted is IMPOSSIBLE!

This is where you are getting confused!

First of all you need to know what God's word said about the head of God's Kingdom and the head of Worldly Kingdom if you don't know the difference between the two then you can't adequately preach about God's Kingdom and you will surely be misled anytime Satan's agents raises their false teachings.

Satan is the head of the Kingdom of darkness, demons are his subordinates in the spirit realms and politicians are their human representatives so if you don't know this then you've lost sight of God's Kingdom message.

Jesus is the head of the Kingdom of light, angels are his spiritual attendants while his disciples are his representatives you must identify these people otherwise you can't know the side you should be. You once said you used to attend religious service with any (living) church around you this simply means you have failed to recognize Jesus' disciples who have a unique message and assignment.

No agents of Satan can preach about God's Kingdom because it's the main issue that led to a division among the angels in heaven {Matthew 12:25} so once a person decides to preach the truth about God's Kingdom Satan, demons and their human representatives will begin persecuting him or her immediately {Matthew 24:9} you will notice that despite the confusion among all the different religions on this planet they're all against one single religion (JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES) because that's the only religion Jesus is using to propagate the Good News of his Kingdom. The rest are in darkness that's why they will easily pick up weapons to fight and kill not just their neighbors but their fellow worshipers yet they will claim they are for Christ Jesus who commanded his own disciples never to raise weapons against anyone {Matthew 26:52} to love their neighbors as themselves {Mark 12:31} and to have intense love for their fellow believers! John 13:34-35

Satan's goal is to see that everything is destroyed before God destroys him {Revelations 12:12} so he has come to steal, to kill and to destroy {John 10:10} that's why all the religions under his control can't help resolve their disparities unlike those who have the light {Isaiah 2:4} rather their spiritual father has blinded them {2Corinthians 4:4} so they can't see through his lies therefore they kill one another at will! John 8:44

If you want to know more start a thread entitled "What is the message of the Good News?" tag all those you think can make meaningful contributions and i will be there to air what i know!

FxMasterz:
That should tell you then that not all preaching is acceptable to God. Preaching itself is not a prerequisite for salvation.

Our preaching has a THEME "GOD'S KINGDOM" {Matthew 10:7} demon can't preach it because it's the foundation of chasm that makes them darkness while we are the light. Luke 16:26 compare to Genesis 3:15
So if you don't know this sacred secret any form of religion can deceive you with whatever they are preaching.
Only true Christians can preach the Good News of God's kingdom! Romans 10:13-15

FxMasterz:
That's for those who can communicate effectively. What about those who can't?

According to God's word nobody can effectively communicate regarding the Good News of God's kingdom that's why we must be taught how to preach and teach so all modern day servants of our God must be trained to become effective evangelizers no matter their condition!

FxMasterz:
Acts 16:17

"This girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying, “These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation.”

Was she cursing the kingdom of God?

At least you can see now that ONLY those who have the Spirit of God in them are known of God. God never said ONLY those who preach are known of Him. You mean the deaf and dumb who can't preach are not known of Him?

Those demons are mocking the way of holiness that's why we always silence them {Mark 1:24-25} they are not for us but against us!

As for blind, deaf and dumb in our midst they are also preaching the Good News ask anyone around you!

Emusan:
No!
Has this scripture been fulfilled?
"for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again." - NWT

If you're truly convinced of your God why aren't you contented with your own God nah?

FxMasterz:
A demon possessed girl followed Paul and Barnabas preaching and proclaiming along, yet she was not a Christian. Paul had to cast out her preaching demons. Not every preacher is of God.

You just like deceiving yourself!

Was the girl preaching and teaching about the Kingdom of God as commanded by Christ Jesus?

Emusan:
I'm worshiping my own God

Are you sure?

FxMasterz:
I can't but laugh at the following lines:

1. The only reward God promised to all his servants is everlasting life.

2. If you don't heed Christ's command to preach, it means you have not accepted Him as your King

3. Only those practicing what Jesus said regarding preaching would have their names written in the book by the angels.

4. In paradise, we must still preach and teach the resurrected ones.

5. Whether you like it or not, know today that your salvation is tied to the preaching and teaching work Christ commanded.

Hahaha, where do I even start from? How can you have this truckload of heresies and call yourself a follower of Christ?

Ọmọ you know nothing about Christ but since PRIDE will not allow you to learn i will leave you to continue with your opinion.

Just remember that the only exercise that makes anyone a Christian is being part of those preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom as Jesus commanded!

FxMasterz:
That's for those who refuse to listen and heed the gospel of salvation. No scripture says you'll perish for not preaching to others. You won't get a reward when others are getting. That's the punishment.

The only reward God promised all His servants is everlasting life which Adam's descendants don't deserve as sinners.
So if you ignore Christ's command to preach it simply means you have not accepted him as your King so you have no share in his Kingdom.
Don't deceive yourself thinking people who said they accepted him on their dying moments are going to gain everlasting life.
NO!
They only have a chance to be resurrected in Paradise {Luke 23:43} there we must still preach and teach resurrected ones who never had the opportunity to hear about God's Kingdom, at that time all those who resurrected based on accepting Jesus as King must humbly support the preaching work with all their mighty as gratitude for a second chance given them to serve our King. That is when all those who refused to obey the command from our King will not be able to get their names in the book of life {Revelations 20:15} because it's only those PRACTICING what Jesus said regarding preaching and teaching that the angels will include their names! Malachi 3:16

So whether you like it or not know today that your salvation is tied to the preaching and teaching work Christ Jesus COMMANDED all his disciples. If any of them falls into sin due to imperfection he or she will be forgiven for being obedient to God's only begotten Son. Romans 7:15-25; Proverbs 24:16; Luke 22:31-32

But no matter your self righteousness it's of no worth before our God {Isaiah 64:6} if you refused to do the work Jesus assigned all his subjects!

FxMasterz:
Scripture didn't say well perish if we don't preach.

Whoever ignores the command from God's only begotten Son will PERISH! John 3:16

FxMasterz:
I have quoted the scripture you requested. You can also read Ephesians 4 to see that Christ distributed the gifts of ministry when He ascended up on high. He gave some apostoles, some teachers, etc.
If you have any issue with the scripture I quoted, spell it out, I'll elaborate.
We are not doomed for not preaching. There's no Scripture that says that. Except you're called and commissioned of God to preach, you must fulfil your assignment because God will judge you on the basis of how you fulfilled your calling.

You have not quoted a verse that supports the exemption of preaching from the WORKS of salvation!

Of course in God's organization offices differs but we must all PREACH and TEACH in our neighborhood.

For instance in my own congregation i am one of the shepherds that doesn't exempt me from going out to preach and teach in my neighborhood the same is with members of our Governing Body who are serving in the office of Apostles over all the congregations globally yet each of them must preach and teach in his neighborhood.

So the preaching WORK is tied to our salvation because that's the command Jesus gave all of us!

FxMasterz:
I don't want to argue with you regarding apostles because you don't even understand that there are special callings and general commandments. You don't even understand the difference. I can't start talking to you about the apostolic office.
You asked for scriptures for saying that all are not called to do the same things? That would take you into a whole lot of lessons where we would be talking about the 5 fold ministries of Christ. Go study that on your own. But let me give you this scripture in 1 Corinthians 12:29-31.

Paul asked the Corinthians who wanted to be everything and be everywhere.

"Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues[a]? Do all interpret? 31 Now eagerly desire the greater gifts."
The answer to all is No, so Paul went ahead to tell us what we must all do without any exception - Love. We must all love. Anything that is not of love is not of God. For the lack of love in the life of a believer, he can be doomed. You cannot know God and not have love because God is love.

Ọmọ don't turn the scriptures upside down nah!

quote the Bible word for word and let everyone see where you're quoting!

As for the Apostles whatever you like say about them one thing is certain they were WORKING HARD towards increasing disciples teaching and encouraging them to go on with the preaching and teaching work!

FxMasterz:
Everyone has his own calling in the Kingdom.
Everyone should preach but not everyone is an Evangelist. Everyone should teach but not everyone is a Pastor. Everyone should prophesy but not everyone is a prophet. Everyone should build churches but not everyone is an apostle.

Can you back this up with the scriptures?

I am saying it again and again:

All disciples of Christ Jesus must preach whoever refuses to preach is doomed because that's the COMMAND we received from our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus! Matthew 28:19-20

So all disciples of Christ Jesus must do the work of an evangelist.

Apostles doesn't mean people building churches rather they are direct representatives of Christ Jesus heading his congregation and passing information to us on how to go about the assignment Jesus gave us.

That's why we must RECOGNIZE them unlike you people who just feel when someone claims he is an Apostle but contradicting others claiming they are also Apostles.

The Apostles of Christ must speak with one voice so as not to cause a division in the body of Christ.

That's why we believe that only one channel is used by Jesus today and it's that channel that is making REAL DISCIPLES who are preaching zealously and industriously teaching throughout the earth! Act 1:8

Emusan:
By this, you should concrete evidence to back it up. So where are your evidences or it's a claim that you ACCEPTED? Of course, I can't believe what the God word did not say. Jesus reigning and second coming was so talked about by Jesus Himself and do His Apostles.
Every scripture pointed to PHYSICAL COMING OF JESUS "for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short. “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it...Therefore, if people say to you, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For just as the lightning comes out of the east and shines over to the west, so the presence of the Son of man will be. - NWT
The so called WORLD WAR that happens in 1914 that happened only in EUROPE didn't even near the GREAT TRIBULATION that will shake the POWER OF HEAVEN which there will will never be ANOTHER ONE LIKE IT. Reason why another WORLD WAR II happened some years later and now the world is BUILDING UP FOR THE THIRD WORLD WAR and with every massive mass destruction weaponries in their arsenal, there is probability that it was the GREAT TRIBULATION the scripture was talking about. because with over 10,000 Nuclear Bombs alone and at the detonation of them all, NO SINGLE LIFE WILL BE SAVED ON EARTH.
Lastly, Jesus Himself said the second @color part, attested to by the two Angels at Jesus ascension in Acts 1 and reconfirmation in Rev 1. ALL EYES WILL SEE JESUS AT HIS RETURN.
Wrong I can't wish ANYTHING FOR THE GREAT YAHWEH. Well, I'm practicing what The great YAHWEH said in His word and I don't disagree with Him.

The Jewish nation as a whole never agree that Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ till today despite everything his disciples penned down.

So if you don't believe there's no problem go and worship your own God no wahala!

Emusan:
Well, the point is, Jesus was not enthroned in 1914.

Well we know he was enthroned that year so if you don't believe nobody is forcing it on you go and practice whatever you wish for your God!

FxMasterz:
If you're called to preach, you have a case to answer if you disobey. If you're called to sing, you have a case to answer if you disobey. If you're called to pray, you have a case to answer if you disobey. If you're called to be a helper, you have a case to answer if you disobey.

So who called you to sing for God?
Did Jesus asked you to sing for God?

Come on you're talking to a disciple not those churchgoers you can deceive with lies.

What Jesus (God's only begotten son) commanded all his disciples is to go out there and preach the Good News of God's Kingdom.

FxMasterz:
My dear, Paul was a commissioned preacher that's why he 'Necessity is laid upon 'ME'. Woe is 'Me'.
He didn't say woe is all believers. Neither did he tell the recipients of his letter 'Woe is you if you do not preach the gospel."
Just like Ezekiel, Paul was commissioned to preach as all who are called and given that particular assignment to preach. That's his heavenly commission as an apostle.
Preaching is not a prerequisite for salvation. Please show me scriptures that says you are doomed if you don't preach the gospel.

Now it's obvious you hate the truth!

Ezekiel is doomed if he didn't preach what God commanded him, Paul is doomed if he didn't preach what God commanded him.

Jesus Christ commanded all his disciples to go and PREACH and whoever ignores that command is doomed for not bowing to the order from God's Son.

Yet you still want to argue.

Ọmọ go out there and do whatever you like jàre forget about Christianity no be mọimọi it's assigned duty given to all disciples of Jesus that's what makes them Christians! Act 1:8

FxMasterz:
I have asked you to show me a scripture that says preaching is a prerequisite for salvation.
Show me a scripture that says a Christian is doomed for not preaching the gospel.

You hate the truth nah!

Paul said as a Christian:

"Now if I am declaring the good news, it is no reason for me to boast, for necessity is laid upon me. Really, woe to me if I do not declare the good news!" 1 Corinthians 9:16
Which is in harmony with Ezekiel 3:18

But since you're desperate to condemn Christ and his assignment you will continue asking the same question when there is nothing that makes anyone Christian without the preaching and teaching WORK that Jesus assigned to his disciples! Matthew 28:19-20

Can anyone be a Christian without obeying this command?
Do you think anyone ignoring this command could be saved?

Emusan:
The teaching OF THE BIBLE IS PERFECT and it's the one I presented.

Just as the leaders of thousands of different religions out there claims to present the same thing with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.

So if you can't present any group that's doing what you call PERFECT then there's no case!

Emusan:
So it's now force
Watchtower organization is part of the THOUSANDS don't forget and I'm glad as you understand that you are teaching a CONTRADICTORY doctrine.
As long as you didn't provide evidence that support what happened in 1 Thess 4:16-17 in 1914 it means you lie against God and His word also put you in the level of those you claim having thousand contradictory teachings
From God's word and even from your own organization publication I've proved beyond reasonable doubt how Jesus BECAME RULER of kings long before 1914.

Whatever my guy: WHATEVER!

So far you can't present any whose teaching is perfect from your own understanding you have no case here!

Emusan:
That is what I'm saying.
So 1 Thess 4:16-17 isn't prophesy about Jesus Christ again

You either take it or leave it just as you've been doing to thousands of religions out there who are contradicting themselves in doctrines it's not compulsory you agree!

FxMasterz:
Ezekiel is not doomed for not preaching.

What ASSIGNMENT makes a group of worshipers "CHRISTIANS"?

Ọmọ it's the preaching and teaching work Jesus assigned to all his disciples whoever fails to do it simply doesn't believe in Jesus as King who has authority over his soul!

As for Ezekiel go and present what God told this prophet in the Bible book of Ezekiel 3:17-19 to anyone out there and ask them if Ezekiel is not doomed failure to PREACH!

FxMasterz:
Ezekiel was sent on an errand to proclaim God's Word to the people of Israel.

Jesus sent his disciples to go out and preach the Kingdom of God to people of all nations whoever turns a deaf ear to their message is doomed:

"Wherever anyone does not receive you or listen to your words, on going out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet. Truly I say to you, it will be more endurable for the land of Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah on Judgment Day than for that city" Matthew 10:14-15

Is this service optional?

Paul said:

"Pay constant attention to yourself and to your teaching. Persevere in these things, for by doing this you will save both yourself and those who listen to you" 1Timothy 4:16

Whoever fails to do this work is doomed like Ezekiel who must preach and teach to save both himself and those who listened to him! Ezekiel 3:17-19

Ọmọ long story no fit cover this one that's what disqualified all your churches who aren't making disciples for Christ Jesus real disciples of Christ must go out to preach and make more disciples! Matthew 28:19-20

From the year 1914 Jesus began ruling as King of God's Newly established kingdom in heaven soon he will extend his righteous rule to the earth so keep praying for God's Kingdom to come! Matthew 6:10

Emusan:
Just see diversion tactics from the main point.
Their different opinions is in your head.
Just tell me where all the churches you mentioned have different opinions on 1 Thess 4:16-17.
He can't defend 1 Thess 4 again

If you welcome all these different religions with their contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines as your fellow believers what you're asking me is irrelevant.
Each of them welcomed one another without asking which is right or wrong as per doctrines so my friend keep your beliefs while i also keep mine i owe you no explanation!

FxMasterz:
Tell.me where Jesus or any part of Scripture says anyone who does not preach the gospel would go to hell or perish.

This is a proof that you don't even check verses i often cited well i can understand because you feel you are too big to learn from Jehovah's Witnesses.
So it's time to LEARN!

“Son of man, I have appointed you as a watchman to the house of Israel; and when you hear a word from my mouth, you must warn them from me. When I say to someone wicked, ‘You will surely die,’ but you do not warn him, and you fail to speak in order to warn the wicked one to turn from his wicked course so that he may stay alive, he will die for his error because he is wicked, but I will ask his blood back from you. But if you warn someone wicked and he does not turn back from his wickedness and from his wicked course, he will die for his error, but you will certainly save your own life" Ezekiel 3:17-19

God told Ezekiel that he should PREACH what he heard from God to the Israelites, those who listened and acted on what they heard will be saved but if Ezekiel failed to preach those people will perish but their blood God will ask from Ezekiel.

In harmony with what God told Ezekiel Apostle Paul told Timothy:

"Pay constant attention to yourself and to your teaching. Persevere in these things, for by doing this you will save both yourself and those who listen to you." 1Timothy 4:16

Timothy must preach and teach the Gospel to save himself and those who listened to him.

WHY?

Because the only service that makes us disciples of Christ Jesus is the WORK he assigned to us:

"Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things" Matthew 28:19-20

Jesus will deny whoever refuses to do this work because it's only those doing it that Jesus will be with not those shouting his name:

“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’  And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness" Matthew 7:21-23

This is in harmony with God's will according to Ezekiel 3:17-19 which i quoted above whoever hears the Gospel but fails to tell others is not doing God's will! Revelations 22:17

You can see that you don't even know anything about the way to salvation {Isaiah 35:8} yet you want to condemn God's people who are zealously doing God's will!

Ken4Christ:
After the rapture, there will be great tribulation on earth. And those who are not saved will be eternally doomed.

Quote this in your Bible!

Though it's irritating arguing with people who don't know what Christianity is all about but at times i just can't keep quiet when you people talk rubbish all in the name of Christ Jesus.

Imagine someone who said Jehovah's Witnesses are not preaching the Gospel:

https://www.nairaland.com/8216834/jehovah-witness-dont-preach-gospel

But here he is arguing over tithing that has no connection with the Gospel.

Christians are modern day WORSHIPERS of the true God that has been trained by His son to preach and teach God's Kingdom while ancient WITNESSES of the true God obeyed His laws that He gave them in their time.

The difference between the two is that a Christian may turn back for one reason or the other but a WITNESS of the true God will serve God doing what pleases God till his last breath.

FxMasterz:
Salvation and service. That's Christianity.

Tithing has nothing to do with salvation, but it has its own rewards. Preaching the gospel has nothing to do with salvation (God won't cast anyone to hell for not preaching) but it has its own rewards. We're commanded to tithe. We're commanded to preach. We're commanded to give. We're commanded to study. All these are commandments. Our salvation does not depend on them but they have their own rewards for doing them.

The highlighted is a lie!
Jesus COMMANDED all his disciples:

"Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things" Matthew 28:19-20

Whoever failed to participate in this work is directly disobeying God's only begotten Son whom we must OBEY to gain salvation. Philippians 2:10
We must all do the evangelizing work and fully accomplish our ministry as disciples of Christ Jesus {2Timothy 4:1-2} that is what it takes be be a TRUE BELIEVER in Christ Jesus for our salvation {John 3:16} Paul told Timothy "by preaching you will save both yourself and those who listened to you" 1Timothy 4:16 compare to Ezekiel 3:17-19

Ọmọ don't be deceived o whoever fails to preach and teach according to the command from God's son will perish! Luke 18:18-23

Ken4Christ:
Wrong calculation. Jesus is yet to return.
The calculation will resume after the church age. Daniel didn't see the church age. So,the last one week of Daniel Prophecy is after the rapture of the church.

Guy what you people are referring to as rapture occurred in the year 1914.

Ken4Christ:
You can't compare the nation of Israel and other nations. The entire nation of Israel is in covenant with God.

So the LAW COVENANT doesn't concern other nations except Christianity that has to do with salvation of all souls, God Himself never promised the Israelites salvation through the law covenant rather what they were promised is the the law covenant will serve as a fence between them and other nations {Exodus19:5} until the Christ comes to establish the covenant that will bring salvation! Deuteronomy 18:18-19