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sonmvayina:
Which God..
The one you are breaking his commandments
Or the one created by Taze Russell?

The title "GOD" connotes SUPREME BEING you can't deny the fact that Jehovah's Witnesses are excellently doing the will of God as found written in the Bible so if you think their GOD was created yet the worshipers are fulfilling what the Bible God promised long ago then your own god who can't do anything is DEAD! Psalms 115:4-8

For your information the other guy i shunned has also been blinded by hatred for truth just as you're blinded right now.
GOD is a spirit that you can't see so the only evidence of His existence is the activities of His worshipers which must be in line with His purpose for mankind.

Several times you have acknowledged that i'm a competent student of the scriptures but your problem is the source of my knowledge which is through the Bible God - Jesus of Nazareth - his Jewish disciples - Governing Body and Jehovah's Witnesses.

You just want me to cut of Jesus, his disciples, Governing Body and Jehovah's Witnesses so that i can stand as if the knowledge came from tin air the same thing is affecting the other guy but he welcome two more factors which is Jesus and his disciples but the rest he despises with contempt, you guys are not different from atheists who acknowledged that humans like them are intelligent but keep despising the source of life God for reasons best known to them.

So whether you like it or not all your gods are useless and worthless if there is no evidence of it's existence other than what is found written in books because anyone can write books and claim it's inspired but only the true God can make a promise and actualize it within His worshipers not by might or military forces! Zechariah 4:6

The fifth BROTHER of the rich man is bitter just like his other brothers {Luke 16:28} fighting against God's arrangement since the time of Adam and Eve, Jesus referred to them as children of Satan the Devil {John 8:44} the Bible revealed that God put a lasting enmity between His loyal worshipers and the brothers of the rich man {Genesis 3:15} so that it's impossible for any of them to cross over to the side of God's people! Luke 16:26

sonmvayina:
Anybody can fly..
When you take passages out of context..
You end up as a sheepie of the GB

This is really funny walahi talahi!

Ọmọ your stupidity knows no bound!

For your information i was a Muslim from my childhood so i can confidently tell you that there are many religious groups claiming they are Muslims with different doctrines just as those claiming Christians but there is no single group in Islam that fits into the description you are reading in that Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 in fact no religion on planet earth fits in except Jehovah's Witnesses.

Read it again and again:

"God promised that in the final part of the days people from all the geographical locations on this planet will find their way into one religious group and they will use what they found in the Bible to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into the production of food and information materials stop the production, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against their neighbours"

Apart from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES you can never ever find another religion that (perfectly) fits into that description, NEVER!

It's wrong for Christians to protest against the authorities for any reason whatsoever {Romans 13:1-4} but the religious groups claiming Christians today have taught their followers to always protest against their rulers so it's not easy to tell their members what is contrary!

Checking your profile and seeing that you're a Muslim makes your case understandable but try to listen well to both sides before siding the one your parents passed on to you remember both are foreign not African religion.

sonmvayina:
But people had shown here that Jesus never existed...that is my point.

A global organization of peace loving people {Isaiah 2:2-4} is undeniable proof that Jesus who is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} as living WITNESSES of Jesus {Act 1:8} so you and all your cohorts are wrong if a global family of peace loving worshipers could suffice in a divided world filled with violence!

naturefellow:
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If you need further clarification ask {Matthew 7:7} but if you don't it's OK!

sonmvayina:
Who wrote the laws in their heart?
God or GB? IF it is God you will shorn any form of idolatry which Jesus represent..and by extension.. Christianity. Like I always tell you. You can't be of God and you are breaking his commandments and claim you are in a performing group..those not make sense.
Better be by yourself and keep the laws...

If not Moses who stood as mediator did God read the laws into the hearing of all Israelites?

Guy people transferred the laws to people just as Moses taught the Israelites God's laws the same way Jesus and his representatives taught us God's laws.

Once you don't relate with anyone then the laws makes no practical sense the only purpose of the law is for us to relate peacefully with our neighbors and that the GOVERNING BODY has achieved among Jehovah's Witnesses!

FxMasterz:
I'll be back soon for comments. Deceived JWs must get sense by force.

You keep enjoying the company of these guys yet you're not interested in their salvation as if it's ok for them to remain idle. Well you've chosen your own path.
This is where they belong:
https://www.nairaland.com/8150608/christians-jehovahs-witnesses-what-difference

MaxInDHouse:
So the five brothers of the rich man weren't just literal brothers the same way Lazarus and the rich man weren't literal individuals.
They are five generations of apostates and they are all children of Satan the Devil! John 8:44
The first generation started right in the garden of Eden when Adam and Eve joined Satan to revel against God, that action means they have chosen Satan as their father and God instead of their Creator. Cain later joined that generation as he wanted to decide for God the right way to worship instead of humbly accepting correction.
The second generation started when some prominent elders led by Korah in Israel stood up against Moses and Aaron to divide God's people but instantly God destroyed them with fire from heaven.
The third generation started when John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth told the Jewish religious leaders of the first century that their worship has been rejected by Jehovah God so just as the first and second generation of apostates began attacking pure worship the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis plotted the execution of Jesus and started attacking his disciples everywhere they go.
The fourth generation started right in the midst of the first Christian congregation as members of the Christian family began criticizing the Apostles and Elders of the congregation speaking injuriously about them to turn away members from following them.
The fifth generation started after 1919 when the International Bible Students Association (IBSA) began doing exactly what the first century Jewish disciples of Christ did, the last brother of the rich man began speaking against the organization and ever ready to support any evil report brought up against the organization.

One common factor about the five brothers of the rich man is the fact that they can't find any better performing group than JEHOVAH'S organization so instead of leaving God's people to join another group they want to remain inside the spiritual temple and at the same time kicking against whatever is done inside the temple arrangement.

Today you will see individuals claiming they are "JW PIMO" this means they are still members of Jehovah's Witnesses organization Physically but their hearts are far away from the organization of God's people {Mark 7:6} you may wonder why can't they find another religion or church to worship?
They will start giving you excuses but telling you that the organization is worshiping Satan yet they remain there.

You can now understand why Jesus said in that parable that the rich man is begging father Abraham (God) to tell Lazarus (humble and obedient members of God's organization) to cool their thirst with droplets of water from his finger {Luke 16:24} Jesus said Abraham told him that there is a big chasm between Lazarus and the rich man {Luke 16:26} this chasm was there right from the time God told Satan the father of the five brothers:

And I will put ENMITY between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring. He will crush your head, and you will strike him in the heel.” Genesis 3:15

So no matter what happens there is no one belonging to the five brothers of the rich man who can cross over to the other side {Luke 16:26} because the intense hatred in their hearts will never allow them to se reasons why they need to mend their ways! Genesis 4:6-7

Today they are all over this forum always typing different articles against the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses telling people they are once members but ask them to present the church they're now associating with presently and they will start insulting, abusing and cursing you for asking such a question!

Obviously you fit in to their family friends just as David said walking according to the advice of the wicked, standing on the path of sinners and sitting in the seat of scoffers. Psalms 1:1

FxMasterz:
Absolutely correct and 100% scriptural.
Take note, if you preach the true Word of God as it is without saying what the Bible does not say, I would not have any reason to counter you.

You're not serious walahi talahi.
Ṣebi you said we have part ways and if i don't quote you it's over between us?
Well let me tell you that all those speaking of my comments as if they've seen something really strange knows exactly what they are saying:

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

Questionnaires:
Please, Tell Him.
Wiser One.
I hope they learn someday that their ways are not TRUE.
Their Eyes Are Closed.

Questionnaires:
There's Alot of Sense in What You Wrote.
Now; How Does The JW Prefer And Advise We Run A Country Like Nigeria ?

Questionnaires:
I want to.
You can let me know.

Questionnaires:
Surprisingly And Truthfully;
It's A Honour For You, King.
I'm Positioning Myself To Help Provide A Meeting Point For All Humanity. That We Should Love Our Neighbours As We Love Ourselves.
This Alone - Is The Greatest Treat For Humanity.

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

You've been deceiving yourself all these while supporting the generation of the fifth brothers of the rich man in Jesus' illustration of Lazarus. Luke 16:28
https://www.nairaland.com/8153138/five-brothers-rich-man-know

Well whether you like it or not only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION taught by the GOVERNING BODY has these things and no other religion as in no single religion call it whatever name you want has what i'm teaching here apart from the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses.

So it's better you stay on your lane if you want to oppose God's only organization today!

sonmvayina:
So you mean they have been brainwashed by GB not to take up arms.
And why are they not taking up arms?

Surely if you have lived during the time of the Elders in Israel you would be one of the rebels against God's organized people asserting they are brainwashing the people.
God's people are not taking up arms today because He promised to write His laws in their hearts unlike the Torah you're quoting which is not applicable anywhere again today not even in Israel where it was formally their constitution {Jeremiah 31:31-34} and with that all those having God's laws in their hearts knew that they shouldn't pick up arms against their neighbours most especially their fellow worshipers of the true God {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} they are globally speaking the same language of PEACE! Zephaniah 3:9

Davoneskay:
if it was a demon, the scriptures would have clarified that a demon disguised as Samuel.

2Corinthians 11:14

Your problem is seeing others as wrong when you failed to see your own folly!

sonmvayina:
Just tell me how people can live in peace without laws?

So if you find people living peacefully without picking up weapons against one another then they surely have laws guiding them but it's you who is deluded to the point of grasping that there is no way such could be possible without laws guiding them!

POLITICIAN!

Exactly what we were taught to continue doing but it's a lie my guy you don't know anything about Christianity Muhammad is just a fake prophet who capitalized on the gullibility of his pagan families to impose himself on them as a prophet of the God who never knew him at all.

The God of Israel never chose any prophet outside His arrangement that's why He called Himself the God of Abraham the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob (Israel)
You can never ever find one single prophet mentioned in line with other sons of Abraham for instance Abraham had eight sons but God chose the lineage of Isaac, Isaac also had two sons and God chose the lineage of Jacob from that time till today check your Quran all the names mentioned before your Muhammad are children born through that lineage except those born before God settled with Abraham.

So if you're thinking of what those Arabs told you about Christianity try to speak with those practicing Christianity for real we will help you understand what idolatry truly mean and the reason why God condemned it.

May you have PEACE!

So as people often call worshipers of God with different group names in different generations e.g
• Noah's descendants.
• Abraham's offsprings.
• Israelites, Jews.
• The Way
• Christians

God welcomed all these group names since most of his loyal ones could only be found in their midst {Hebrews 11:4-34} but the true God kept the name He had in mind for all His faithful and loyal friends throughout all these generations.
So after Satan and his agents have hijacked the last group name given to God's people "Christians" and BASTARDIZED it to the point that it's of no pedigree anywhere on the planet the true God released the name He had in mind for all His loyal friends in the year 1931 and He began calling them by another name which is now extremely difficult for faithless miscreants to be comfortable in their midst:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 43:10 compare to Isaiah 65:15

Today the sons of disobedience {Ephesians 2:2; 5:6} could be born right in the midst of God people since each person will prove what sort of character he will choose to be {Galatians 6:5} but they found it really difficult to coexist with loyal ones {Isaiah 35:8} so they are complaining bitterly because there is nowhere else they can go to worship! John 6:68

To know more about the sons of disobedience or Satan's seed check:
https://www.nairaland.com/8153138/five-brothers-rich-man-know

sonmvayina:
He gave a commandment that his followers should keep..
You are not keeping them , how are you following him again...?
He gave the Jews his laws and they are supposed to be a light to the nations ..
You are disobeying the laws ...just exactly do you belong to him?

LAWS?

Ọmọ what is the purpose of law?

I think that's where your problem is hiding from you because there's no need for laws if only one person exists in a place but it's when people are many that laws comes to mind and it's to help people cohabit peacefully so there's no sense in laws or commandments where the inhabitants can't cohabit peacefully!

So there's one common attitude in the lives of all the brothers of the rich man:

They are always begging the likes of Lazarus to share what they have with them instead of being self sufficient, they can't stand on their own without having to do with the likes Lazarus! Luke 16:24, 27

sonmvayina:
Really no law against pedophiles in Judaism...
I don't really know your specific kind of stupid, but I admire your commitment to it...

Please quote the commandment found in the Torah that's against pedophilia in ancient Israel.

sonmvayina:
Who is your God?

The one who promised that imperfect humans will settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop the production, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Today you're reading what the Israelites wrote concerning the activities of their forefathers as they were being directed by a God but today you can't just think of a people who are doing something similar yet you want to argue that you're worshiping that same God who organized His worshipers back then!

Michael547:
Why are we always talking about false prophets and teachers? Why not talk about the true teachers? Who are the true teachers today and where can we find them?

Do you think he can call any pastor TRUE after speaking evil about so many pastors?

Well let's see him mention his own without his so called brethren from other churches rubbishing his own pastor too!

epfa:
Those who follow Jesus obey Jesus' direction to turn away from those who have a form of godly devotion but prove false to its power.

You know, like these Watchtower phonies..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nrb2jAZ9B4

Just tell everyone the better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

epfa:
The entire Watchtower hierarchy structure is based on misapplication of scripture.

Jesus said such superimposed demonic structures would infiltrate the congregations of Christians. Various forms of pharisaical hierarchies can be found throughout all of Christendom. The Watchtower way is the most despicable version because it claims to represent Jehovah Himself while at the same time heaping reproach on His holy name.

Jesus is exposing the Watchtower leaders as the hypocrites they are. Their hierarchy will be dissolved. "That is where the weeping and gnashing of their teeth will be."

(video: Watchtower Vain Glory JW Selectmen)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBheYOH_Hvs

Do you know a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?

Paul is simply talking about the preaching of the Good News of God's kingdom but it will be very difficult for either a Muslim or Churchgoer to grasp what he meant.

Let me break it down without quoting any book.

We are all intelligent creatures with different opinions and thoughts so there will always be frictions and if care is not taken it could lead us into picking up weapons to annihilate one another so what is the simple way forward?

Don't you think we need to find time to speak with our neighbors one on one in order to come to an agreement on whose opinion will lead to success in solving problems without thinking of how to kill ourselves?

That's what Paul is talking about because Jesus of Nazareth commissioned a group and send them to start going to meet people in their homes one on one to discuss about how we can make the world a better place for us all but Satan realized that with this group 80% of mankind's problems will be solved so he quickly initiated so many religions all claiming they're also talking about God yet members of these false religions are fighting and killing themselves in large numbers.

So when Paul said our faith is pleasing in God's eyes he's talking about the love we have to care for our neighbors and when he said pleasing to man he's talking about what we will all do that both God and man will be pleased!

Emusan:
SHow where I beg in that post

Here is my point in case you forgot to put on your glass the other time

So you can't say boldly with your full chest that Yes! I MaxInDHouse, I'm not a Christian

Just as any True Christian can boldly say: Yes I'm not a Jehovah witness

Then what is the different between Christian and Jehovah witness according to the title of this thread?

Still begging!

You can't get a single thing from my God if you're not humble the same is with his worshipers no matter how much persistent it doesn't make us release what you never ask for with humility.
So humble yourself and ask with respect and i will gladly show you the answer in one of my previous posts on this same thread!

Emusan:
So you can't say boldly with your full chest that Yes! I MaxInDHouse, I'm not a Christian
Just as any True Christian can boldly: Yes I'm not a Jehovah witness?
Then what is the different between Christian and Jehovah witness according to the title of this thread?

Still begging!

FRANCISTOWN:
What I know about the devil is different from what I believe about the Devil.
Que: What do I know about the devil?
Ans: What everyone says about him.
Que: What do believe/disbelieve about the Devil?
Ans: I disbelieve in the existence of anything called The Devil.
My disbelieve is superior to my knowledge.

Wow!
You can relate with a none existing character!

MightySparrow:
No?
Give It

Hmmmmmmmmmm, this is what i've been telling you all these while because i also believe that our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus is the law giver but that was never mentioned in the Old Testament so you can't just say something that wasn't written word for word rather you have to explain then cite a relevant verse.

As for the verse that proves Jesus being the lawgiver i won't TEACH you because you never accepted me as a teacher, go and ask your so called "Papa in the lord" Mr Oyedapo.

MightySparrow:
I think you don't know Bible either, you know the doctrine of your organization.
Matt.5.27 - Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Matt.5.28 - But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Matt.5.29 - And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Matt.5.30 - And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Matt.5.31 - It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
Matt.5.32 - But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Matt.5.33 - Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
Matt.5.34 - But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
Matt.5.35 - Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
Matt.5.36 - Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
Matt.5.37 - But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
Matt.5.38 - Ye have heard that it hath been said, [/b]An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
Matt.5.39 - [b]But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.


Consider these among others. Who else has ability to correct or introduce other laws to nullify those of Moses?
B deceiving yourself in your Delusion. When you want to justify your organization you condemn or defend Moses and Paul.
Abeg go and sit down and enjoy your amala and ewedu.
Who else is Moses taking about in Gen. 49:10?

So can you now quote where Jesus is giving the laws to people in the Bible book of Genesis?

DeDonniesHomes:
You sound more like a religious fanatic that's why I pay less attention to you.

What would you call a young man of about the age of 33 who stood in the midst of people old enough to be his grandpa and told them that all their sacred services is worthless before God if they are not ready to obey his words? John 14:6

Of course people listening to him will say he's a religious fanatic!

JESUSPOWERREVOL:
I feel so much pity for you. Instead of humbly accepting the fact that you put your mouth into something that exceeds your level of understanding, keep speaking nonsense and disgracing yourself further. You first said God didn't chase out those demons out of the land, then said God gave them laws to never invite the demons back to the land, so who chased them out if not God? Please stop doing this to yourself already. The embarrassment is getting too much.

If you can say an atheist knows God better then i don't need this discussion anymore.

Take care my friend, may you have PEACE!