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Mikespecialone:
You Dey dare nature, I pity u

With the way things are hard everywhere don't you know most people are thinking of how to japa either by leaving Nigeria or worst still leaving this world?

Claiming God doesn't exist but always on the religious section PREACHING TALKING about God.
No be colo be that?

Demons have their own plans and purpose at heart but since most people are never ready to learn this is what they will continue to do.

The guy in the video is a nobody who is ready to die so since life has no meaning to him now the demons will never ever go close to his side after all they've won him over to their side as he's anticipating untimely death.

You can never ever find any rich man who has every reason to keep living for what he has do such a thing, the demons knows very well that this one has nothing to live for so they will not touch him let him commit suicide if he's tired of living.

What he's doing tell those who are wealthy and has every reason to stay alive to try the same thing nah!

jaephoenix:
We're not talking about what is happening. We are talking about what is in the Bible. So answer my question

You see where those pastors misinformed you and your churchgoer friends but instead of you to unlearn and relearn you're arguing blindly.
Why not talk about what's really happening?
No one can perform miracles like Jesus?
I told you what he meant yet what those pastors programmed in your brain won't allow you to reason!

MightySparrow:
Your faithless Hall goer brother?

Your own cook up story nah!

After sending Satan out of heaven Jesus turned his attention to the earth to restructure his group in the year 1914!

FxMasterz:
Na wá for him. He even thinks I hate him and his organization. How I wish he would have an encounter with Jesus.

Demons appearing to you people isn't Jesus so stop deceiving yourself. 2Corinthians 11:14

FxMasterz:
Again, are you saying the Bible lied?

That's exactly what you're saying now if you don't believe what Jesus said about his future disciples.
What the scriptures say about the Christ is the things Jesus' disciples stick to which helped them to IDENTIFY him as the Christ.
Today you and all your faithless friends aren't believers if you're criticizing Jehovah's Witnesses the one and only organization that's PRACTICING what Jesus taught!

FxMasterz:
Coming from someone who worships angel Michael.

Do you think Jehovah's Witnesses are like you misinformed churchgoers worshiping what you don't know?

Ọmọ Jesus in his prehuman existence is the Archangel Michael but we are worshipers of Jehovah the God of Jesus not Jesus himself.

Do you get it now?

Emusan:
The gods of Jehovah witness is of this world.
Our God and Savior The Lord Jesus you quoted His statement in Matt 7:7 also said "ask and it shall be given..."
So, dont forget, the title of of the thread is: Christian and Jehovah Witness what is the difference?
Are they same or there's any difference between them?

But why aren't you contented with what your own god has for you?
Why disturbing a JW whose God you despised?

Perhaps you should know what our God said about people like you.

He promised that there will be spiritual famine globally and it will affect all false religions:

‘Look! The days are coming,’ declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, ‘When I will send a famine into the land, Not a famine for bread or a thirst for water, But for hearing the words of Jehovah' Amos 8:11

So He said about false religionists like you:

“Look! My servants will eat, but you will go hungry" Isaiah 65:13

Perhaps that's why you're not contented with whatever your pastors are feeding you as word of your god!

hakeem4:
no thanks i am not interested in knowing, cause i know both books have not said anything intelligent in a long while

OK i was just concerned since you asked:

hakeem4:
So who do we believe

I think since you already know you ought not to bother yourself regarding whatever is found in those books or are you not really sure of what you're saying?

Emusan:
The gods of Jehovah witness is of this world.

And just as Pharisees, Sadducees and Scribes also said Jesus has a demon but they can't just help it rather they keep following him everywhere he goes or wherever his disciples could be found asking questions!

So just like the group name people do call the worshipers of God in ancient times like:

• Abraham descendants
• Israelites
• Jews
• The Way
So the group name "CHRISTIANS" was given to those following the Messiah (Christ) sent to teach mankind the Way of holiness {Isaiah 35:8} it was in an ancient city called Antioch the disciples of Jesus were called that name {Act 11:26} but the group name God reserved for all His faithful, obedient and loyal servants who happens to be among Adam's children, Abraham's descendants, Israelites, Jews, The Way and Christians is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

Can you now figure out Jehovah's Witnesses in the time of Adam?
Remember Abel! Hebrews 11:4
Do you remember Jehovah's Witnesses in the time of Abraham?
In the time of Israelites?
In the time of the Jews?
In the time of the Way?
In the time of first century Christians?


Well the group name "CHRISTIANS" is the last group name God's people were called until Jehovah declared the GROUP name he had in mind for all His faithful servants throughout history: Isaiah 65:15
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 43:10; Hebrews 12:1

Thanks, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Emusan:
Dont forget, the title of of the thread is: Christian and Jehovah Witness what is the difference?
Are they same or there's any difference between them?

Have faith in the God of Jehovah's Witnesses and keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

Emusan:
So is there a rule that says someone can't comment on a THREAD CREATED ON A PUBLIC FORUM?
Next time create the thread and leave it permanently on your phone or Laptop or Desktop but the moment you post it on Nairaland which is a PUBLIC FORUM you don't have any rule unless the creator of Nairaland says otherwise.
Back to the topic: What is the different between Christian and Jehovah witness according to your own thread?
Dont forget, the title of of the thread is: Christian and Jehovah Witness what is the difference?
Are they same or there's any difference between them?

Always on my thread!

MightySparrow:
You are denying both scriptures and your brother, shey?

How can someone be my brother when i don't know neither relate with such a person in anyway?

MightySparrow:
Healing is only miracle recorded in the Bible?
What about the book I asked you to check. It was written in 1974 by a bold JW who in spite of the wrong teaching healed his own child in his own house using the name of Jesus.

The healed the child?

Go and worship with him!

jaephoenix:
So how do you knw its not miracles he was referring to? Wasn't miracles part of his show?

You yourself can figure that out nah!

Jesus saved his disciples when natural disaster wanted to claim their lives! Mark 4:35-41

Ordinary COVID-19 came and no one could stop it but the pandemic claimed lives of people globally.

So who is deceiving who?
Can anyone do anything close to what Jesus did?

MightySparrow:
The speaking in tongues by Cornelius and his household was a miracle?

Did they heal anyone?

The speaking in tongues is what God promised that all the nations of the earth will speak about His wonderful purposes for mankind in their own mother's language that's what Jehovah's Witnesses are still doing till today.
Our organization has all the languages in the world so that there is no language you can think of that a JW will not preach to you in that language.

Do you understand now?

hakeem4:
yes, cause i remember reading about elijah and the prophets of baal, its just that the bible god claims to be the greatest god, whilst that of the quran also claims to be the greatest, not only the greatest, he also claims to be the last and final god

so who do we believe

If you're interested in knowing i can join you in meditating on what both books said.

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

So the five brothers of the rich man weren't just literal brothers the same way Lazarus and the rich man weren't literal individuals.
They are five generations of apostates and they are all children of Satan the Devil! John 8:44
The first generation started right in the garden of Eden when Adam and Eve joined Satan to revel against God, that action means they have chosen Satan as their father and God instead of their Creator. Cain later joined that generation as he wanted to decide for God the right way to worship instead of humbly accepting correction.
The second generation started when some prominent elders led by Korah in Israel stood up against Moses and Aaron to divide God's people but instantly God destroyed them with fire from heaven.
The third generation started when John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth told the Jewish religious leaders of the first century that their worship has been rejected by Jehovah God so just as the first and second generation of apostates began attacking pure worship the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis plotted the execution of Jesus and started attacking his disciples everywhere they go.
The fourth generation started right in the midst of the first Christian congregation as members of the Christian family began criticizing the Apostles and Elders of the congregation speaking injuriously about them to turn away members from following them.
The fifth generation started after 1919 when the International Bible Students Association (IBSA) began doing exactly what the first century Jewish disciples of Christ did, the last brother of the rich man began speaking against the organization and ever ready to support any evil report brought up against the organization.

One common factor about the five brothers of the rich man is the fact that they can't find any better performing group than JEHOVAH'S organization so instead of leaving God's people to join another group they want to remain inside the spiritual temple and at the same time kicking against whatever is done inside the temple arrangement.

Today you will see individuals claiming they are "JW PIMO" this means they are still members of Jehovah's Witnesses organization Physically but their hearts are far away from the organization of God's people {Mark 7:6} you may wonder why can't they find another religion or church to worship?
They will start giving you excuses but telling you that the organization is worshiping Satan yet they remain there.

You can now understand why Jesus said in that parable that the rich man is begging father Abraham (God) to tell Lazarus (humble and obedient members of God's organization) to cool their thirst with droplets of water from his finger {Luke 16:24} Jesus said Abraham told him that there is a big chasm between Lazarus and the rich man {Luke 16:26} this chasm was there right from the time God told Satan the father of the five brothers:

And I will put ENMITY between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring. He will crush your head, and you will strike him in the heel.” Genesis 3:15

So no matter what happens there is no one belonging to the five brothers of the rich man who can cross over to the other side {Luke 16:26} because the intense hatred in their hearts will never allow them to se reasons why they need to mend their ways! Genesis 4:6-7

Today they are all over this forum always typing different articles against the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses telling people they are once members but ask them to present the church they're now associating with presently and they will start insulting, abusing and cursing you for asking such a question!

Today the fifth BROTHER of the rich man has been revealed!

After Jesus returned in the year 1914 he began restructuring his group so that they were once again organized and orderly just as they were in the first century that's why Satan jumped on his feet again to start recruiting his agents the very moment he noticed pure worship is taking shape in the endtime.

Note that Satan and his demons has been disfellowshiped from the midst of God's sons in heaven {Jude 6} so they don't know anything about God's program unless they study the way God's people are operating! 1Peter 1:12 compare to 1Peter 3:19-20; 2Peter 2:4

Immediately Satan noticed an organization of imperfect humans changing their operations towards practicing what Jesus taught he knew instantly that Jesus is using God's Holy Spirit to direct them because it's impossible for imperfect humans to get God's will done {Matthew 19:26} without the help God's Holy Spirit! John 14:26; 15:26; 16:13

Satan began his work again attacking this group with all his tactics but when nothing worked he started infusing hatred into the minds of some individuals right in the midst of the congregation, their job is to start saying twisted things against the organization because unlike Adam, Eve and Cain who had no organized people to malign now an orderly global family has been formed in divided world where people are spending billions of dollars to maintain military services and produce weapons in anticipation of killing their neighbors Jehovah and Jesus has used the Holy Spirit to direct imperfect humans so that they are able to use the scriptures to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop the production, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

OK!

MightySparrow:
Ọgá come out of delusion.
Acts.10.1 - There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,
Acts.10.2 - A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.
Acts.10.4 - And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God.
Acts.10.5 - And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter:
Acts.10.6 - He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do.
Acts.10.7 - And when the angel which spake unto Cornelius was departed, he called two of his household servants, and a devout soldier of them that waited on him continually;
Acts.10.8 - And when he had declared all these things unto them, he sent them to Joppa.
Acts.10.9 - On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:
Acts.10.10 - And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
Acts.10.11 - And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
Acts.10.12 - Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
Acts.10.13 - And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
Acts.10.14 - But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
Acts.10.15 - And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
Acts.10.16 - This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.
Acts.10.17 - Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate,
Acts.10.18 - And called, and asked whether Simon, which was surnamed Peter, were lodged there.
Acts.10.19 - While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.
Acts.10.20 - Arise therefore, and get thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for I have sent them.
Acts.10.21 - Then Peter went down to the men which were sent unto him from Cornelius; and said, Behold, I am he whom ye seek: what is the cause wherefore ye are come?
Acts.10.22 - And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.
Acts.10.23 - Then called he them in, and lodged them. And on the morrow Peter went away with them, and certain brethren from Joppa accompanied him.
Acts.10.24 - And the morrow after they entered into Caesarea. And Cornelius waited for them, and had called together his kinsmen and near friends.
Acts.10.25 - And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
Acts.10.26 - But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.
Acts.10.27 - And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together.
Acts.10.28 - And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
Acts.10.29 - Therefore came I unto you without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for: I ask therefore for what intent ye have sent for me?
Acts.10.30 - And Cornelius said, Four days ago I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and, behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing,
Acts.10.31 - And said, Cornelius, thy prayer is heard, and thine alms are had in remembrance in the sight of God.
Acts.10.32 - Send therefore to Joppa, and call hither Simon, whose surname is Peter; he is lodged in the house of one Simon a tanner by the sea side: who, when he cometh, shall speak unto thee.
Acts.10.34 - Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Acts.10.35 - But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
Acts.10.36 - The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all
Acts.10.37 - That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
Acts.10.38 - How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
Acts.10.39 - And we are witnesses of all things [/b]which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
Acts.10.40 - Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
Acts.10.41 - Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
Acts.10.42 - And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
Acts.10.43 - To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
Acts.10.44 - [b]While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
Acts.10.45 - And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts.10.46 - For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Acts.10.47 - Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Acts.10.48 - And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.


It seems you don't understand the meaning of miracle.
miracle


[ mir-uh-kuhl ]


Phonetic (Standard)
IPA
noun
an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause.
such an effect or event manifesting or considered as a work of God.
a wonder; marvel.
a wonderful or surpassing example of some quality:
a miracle of modern acoustics.

miracle play.

From Dictionary.com


1. The vision that Cornelius saw, 2. The appearance of an angel to him
3. The baptism of Holy Spirit in
Cornelius House
4. The same experience
people of his household had
as real and convincing as
that of the jews convinced.
Peter .

What else are miracles besides these?
Before this time, which Gentiles received angelic visitation?

Acts.10.34 - Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:


Peter had similar notion like yours. Jesus went to look for Paul who understood better.

Paul was the one who was imparting his followers for supernatural manifestations.
He was the one that wrote 1 Corinthians where he taught his people not to be ignorant of spiritual gifts.

The ignorance is what what your organization has fed you with and all your almost nine million ignorant followers.

Come out of delusion.

God is no respecter of persons....

Your Delusional Majesty

My own God is ever faithful. In this dispensation, I know him and enjoy the provisions of salvation.
Be deceiving yourself

Check this book by n ex - JWs who dared to call on Jesus for his child's club feet. Jehovah real Jehovah, (not that of Jehovah's Witnesses) answered him. He was kicked out that it was the Devil that answered his prayer.

Your Delusional Majesty

https://agapebiblebr.com/kicked-out-of-the-kingdom-1974.html


cc: Emusan
Olaadegbu
Acholardey

I didn't say people of other nations did not get healed by Jesus but that no man from other nations ever performed a single miracle in the Bible!

That's why you are being deceived while you're also deceiving yourself {2Timothy 3:13} COVID-19 came and exposed all your lies as none of your so called pastors claiming they have power to perform miracles could stop COVID-19!

Emusan:
If I'm following you

Always on my thread!

It's the year 1914 that Jesus returned.

The fourth generation of apostates sufficed after the ascension of Jesus to heaven, just as usual some members of the Christian congregation began to develop their own ideas but since the Apostles and elders who worked with Jesus of Nazareth were around it was difficult for these sons of the devil to make any negative impact on pure worship so they remain in the congregation causing division among brothers.
They are the ones referred to as the sons of disobedience in the congregation or Antichrist in the first century! 1John 2:18; 2John 7
These individuals were opposing the teachings of the Apostles and Elders in Jerusalem yet they will not leave the Christian congregation instead they keep on speaking twisted things to make members of the congregation view the Apostles and Elders as evil men claiming it's wrong for them to set standards for the congregation of God. 3John 9

So just like the rest of the BROTHERS the fourth generation of the brothers of the rich man proved to be sons of the devil! John 8:44

TenQ:
Very well stated for the wise!
The Difference is Exactly like Muslims claiming that Allah is the same as YAHWEH the God of the Jews and Christians.

OK noted, thanks for the contribution!

1914 is the year!

TenQ:
Exactly like Muslims claiming that Allah is the same as YAHWEH the God of the Jews and Christians. They wish to be wheat but they are Tares they can only imitate and bastardise the teachings of the Eternal WORD and Creator of everything visible and invisible who became Human to become our ransom from the Judgement of our sin against His integrity

So what is your response to the question?

There are many demons out there speaking to people due to their quest for quick wealth!

In the past the spirits that speaks to people are demons and they use the names of local Gods commonly known to those they're calling but after Jesus' name became so popular this demons have changed their operations as they now speak to people in the names commonly found in the Bible. 2Corinthians 11:14

One thing is sure after Jesus commissioned the group he sent to preach and teach people throughout the globe he couldn't start going to individuals again to speak with such ones in person for that would contradict his own words as he said whoever rejected his disciples will be rejected in the day of judgement {Matthew 10:11-15} moreover the speaking to people who has no interest in the words written in the Bible is tantamount to partiality if Jesus sends his disciples to preach and someone rejected them but he himself spoke with another as a spirit and that one accepted, why not go on speaking to everyone?

Some may argue that Jesus spoke to Paul but one thing they failed to realize is that Paul was a student of the scriptures who so much love God's word right from his childhood he so much love God's word that he doesn't even have time for women that's why Jesus showed him mercy. But today you will even see harmed robbers, fraudsters, hired killers, ritualists and so on all claiming Jesus spoke to them.

Well if they don't know the truth let them know that Jesus didn't speak with anyone who is not an Israelite during his life time unless the person go to him for help and after his ascension to heaven he remained as a spirit person working with his disciples to locate those who has the love of God not just anyone!

Danniedpastor:
You don't have to believe it.
It's your choice

What correlation is between this man and the Jewish Apostles of Jesus which quantified him to be called an Apostle?