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diamond68:
So genesis 1 vs 26 says AND GOD SAID let us make man in OUR image. So GOD is quantified as OUR ? So how many GODS are there?

The title of your thread is correct but the verse you quoted is incorrect. According to further info in the Bible regarding the time of creation there were just two persons:
God and His firstborn spirit son who served as a craftsman beside God during creation.
Read this:

The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth: While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth: Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him. Proverbs 8:22-30

The spirit person speaking through Solomon here is the same person Paul referred to as the firstborn of all creations {Colossians 1:15-16} Apostle John said he was the only person with God in the beginning! John 1:2

So Genesis 1:26 you quoted God was talking to His Son not more than one person.

May you have PEACE!

OLAADEGBU:
Why didn't you include yourself and your elders in the GB of Jwickedness?

You should have known that we don't tell lies trying to hide behind a finger.

Jehovah's Witnesses organization have our own God so if you're not one of us you're not a worshiper of our own God.

So it's as simple as that.

But yours is a confusionist as you're not sure if it's the same god that's directing Kumuyi, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Oyakilome, Oritsejafor, TB Joshua, Reverend King and so on.

So prove you're not blind spiritually speaking by boldly declaring what is happening among your so called men of God that they're all not in agreement!

MightySparrow:
You know you are either ignorant or not honest with your question.

Well Jesus said many people will later perform signs in his name but he doesn't have anything to do with them. Matthew 7:21-23

I know he's referring to none Israelites claiming they're performing miracles whereas according to God's word only Israelites has such privilege as descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Abraham had eight sons so none of the other seven sons could lay claim that they were given the supernatural power to perform any miracle apart from those born through Isaac.

Isaac had two sons no descendants of Esau can claim the God of Abraham gave him or her the power to perform miracles because God has no such purpose for them except the sons of Jacob (Israel)

All the miracles ever recorded in the Bible was in connection with the descendants of Jacob that's the import of the statement:

God of Abraham, God of Isaac and God of Jacob (Israel)

The true God arranged it perfectly that miracles started to be performed through a man from the lineage of Jacob whose name was Moses and there had never been a time when anyone outside that lineage no matter his or her faith could perform any miracle in the name of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

When Jesus walked the earth he made it clear that the gift of miracles is exclusive only to the descendants of Jacob {Matthew 15:24} surely others can benefit through the hands of Jews whom God will use to heal them miraculously speaking {Zechariah 8:23} but for that gift to be shared with anyone outside that lineage ọmọ it's a lie.

So if you are deceiving yourself i won't deceive myself otherwise why is it that none of your pastors could stand out to defy COVID-19?
Àbí their god travelled that time?

MightySparrow:
twisting scriptures.

That's why i asked you to cite or quote just one verse where a none Israelite performed what you call miracle in the Bible nah?
Àbí you're not with your Bible?

OLAADEGBU:
You and your demonic jwickedness cult are prime examples.

What about TB Joshua, Reverend King, Olukoya and Adeboye?
Are they members of the same body with your Kumuyi?

OLAADEGBU:
The Christian message of the gospel is under attack by false teachers who spread dangerous heresies

False teachers like who and who?

At least you've mentioned Reverend King, TB Joshua, Olukoya and someone said you've also rubbished Adeboye:

weyreypey:
He is a reprobate. If it's not Dr Olukoya it will be Pastor Adeboye.

Please apart from your god (Kumuyi) can you mention other men of God in Nigeria?

Emusan:
The gods of jws are of this world, so I can't have faith in them.

Are you sure or you're just deceiving yourself?

Because if any sane individual knows that there is nothing to gain from something he or she will not continue to visit the place as you're now doing always following me bumper to bumper just as Pharisees, Sadducees and Scribes were following Jesus and his disciples everywhere they go;

Templee333:
Christians Speak Truth

And yet you're not one of them!

Templee333:
I was made to believe that one day, a man who died about 2000 years ago was lifted up into the sky where he made preparations for his 2nd coming. This 2nd coming means different things to different groups of people. Some say he is coming to roast the earth in an inferno after flying away with his believers to give them a home in the sky. Many christians hold this belief, though, some have a different way of explaining his 2nd coming. Now the big issue is, will this man ever come again? If yes, when? What is he coming to do?

MightySparrow:
No problem.

Sure no problem as long as there has never been a time anyone performed miracles apart from Israelites in Bible times.

jaephoenix:
I'm an atheist but I thought Jesus said we would perform miracles, and even do greater works. Did he say its only Israelites?

When reading what Jesus said the first thing to apply is discretion, nobody can perform 1/100 out of the miracles Jesus performed so it's not miracles that he was referring to regarding the works his disciples will do greater.

• Jesus only preached within Israel but his disciples like Paul preached in many lands where Jesus never stepped his foot all his life.
• Jesus didn't establish a single church all his life even the group he was able to assemble dispasssed right in his eyes but his disciples established churches in most cities far away from Israel.
• Jesus only preached in his mother's tongue but his disciples preached in different tongues.
• Jesus' preaching and teaching only took him to stand before a Roman governor but his disciples stood before the Emperor of Rome.
These are the greater works Jesus was talking about not miracles!

MightySparrow:
Hahahahaha
I am laughing in JWs' paradise's language.
John.10.16 - And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

He couldn't have gone round the whole world in a three and half years ministry.
He commissioned faithful Apostles to reach faithful people like us to occupy till He comes.
Faithless organization mispresenting Him everywhere.

So no single miracle was performed by anyone who is not an Israelite in Bible times.
Thanks!

The third generation of apostate BROTHERS of the rich man sufficed during the life and ministry of John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth.
This BROTHER fought really hard to keep the truth away from the Jews as they were going about criticizing Jesus and his disciples anywhere around the district of Judea! Mark 9:14-16
The are the same people who schemed the death of Jesus and lied to their people that he was a impostor {Matthew 27:63} and they told all the Jews never to listen whenever anyone comes to them in the name of Jesus and if any Jew should go against this order such a person should be expelled from their Synagogues! John 9:22
So they made sure that no reputable historian said anything about Jesus of Nazareth till today only his disciples wrote about him due to the antagonism of the third BROTHER of the rich man.
To be continued...

After Satan has been sent out of heaven Jesus came down to planet earth as a mighty Spirit King to restructure his group for the endtime work of gathering obedient mankind since the year 1914!

Emusan:
And I must get the answer!
What is the different between Christian and Jehovah Witness according to your own thread?

Have faith in the God of JWs and keep on asking us what you don't know! Matthew 7:7

MightySparrow:
Just as The Father sent Him, He sent the disciples, to communicate the same to as many that will believe in Him. Doing the same things.

Of course his father sent him to spread the message to the world so he never stepped his foot outside Israel but preached and taught only Israelites it's his Israelite disciples that he sent to people of other nations.
No matter how much you deny it no miracles was performed in the Bible by anyone who is not an Israelite because neither God nor Jesus promised none Israelite such power!

SharonLoveth:
This is for you all in JW's occultist religion/gathering! Revelation 22:19

Whatever you say ma! 1Peter 3:13-15

OLAADEGBU:
busybody

I hope you check yourself before typing this!
Do you remember how many threads you set up against TB Joshua and Olukoya on this forum?

From 1914 Jesus has been working with his chosen group!

MightySparrow:
All that were living in Israel were Israelites in the time of Jesus, shey?

Were were the centurion? Where was Cornelius, where were the Ethiopian eunuch. Where did he get the scriptures he was reading. If non - Israelites were not practicing Judaism and knew nothing about God of Israel?

Hmmmmmmmmmm, when we ask you to give us few moments to TEACH you what is written in the Bible you will say you're Pentecostal.

Well let me quote what Jesus said directly to his 12 disciples whom he later called "Apostles", please note that highlighted:

So he summoned his 12 disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits, in order to expel these and to cure every sort of disease and every sort of infirmity. The names of the 12 apostles are these: First, Simon, the one called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebʹe·dee and John his brother; Philip and Bar·tholʹo·mew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James the son of Al·phaeʹus; and Thad·daeʹus; Simon the Ca·na·naeʹan; and Judas Is·carʹi·ot, who later betrayed him. These 12 Jesus sent out, giving them these instructions: “Do not go off into the road of the nations, and do not enter any Sa·marʹi·tan city; but instead, go continually to the lost sheep of the house of Israel[/blue]. Matthew 10:1-6

He sent his disciples to go only Israelites.
Why?
Because he was sent only to the Israelites and it's after the Israelites have become his disciples that they will take his message to people of other nations.
In fact he told them that they shouldn't take any provisions for their preaching and teaching work within the districts of Israel {Matthew 10:9-10} because Israelites has been given a commandment to care for visitors {Hebrews 13:2} but when he wants to send them to go and talk to none Israelites Jesus made it clear:

He also said to them: “When I sent you out without a money bag and a food pouch and sandals, you did not lack anything, did you?” They said: “No!” Then he said to them: “[color=blue]But now let the one who has a money bag take it, likewise a food pouch, and let the one who has no sword sell his outer garment and buy one." Luke 22:35-36

So the man who performed miracles within Israel is one of the Israelites who accepted Jesus through the preaching and teaching of his disciples not a gentile!

MightySparrow:
Prove it

I know you have nothing tangible to offer other than follow follow so let me enlighten you.

Jesus and his disciples weren't preaching to none Israelites when he began his ministry {Matthew 10:6} so there's no way a none Israelite could have become one of his disciples at that time his disciples were just the Israelites they were able to gather through their preaching and teaching.

So the man using Jesus' name to perform miracles is CERTAINLY an Israelite who believe in Jesus through his preaching but not one of the twelve Apostles whom Jesus first sent out giving them the authority over demons! Matthew 10:1-5

Do you understand now?

MightySparrow:
we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us

Was he a none Israelite?

After identifying the FIRST BROTHER of the rich man who are the second set of his BROTHER?
When Jehovah established Israel as a nation another set of APOSTATES rose up against Jehovah's arrangement.
Korah led a group among the Israelites against Moses and Aaron criticizing Jehovah's servants and trying to cause division among God's people but Jehovah allowed them to project themselves as His enemies as they stood against His arrangement before destroying them.
So unlike ADAM EVE and CAIN the first generation of apostates representing a BROTHER of the rich man Korah and his group of rebellious Israelites were destroyed instantly.
Which generation of apostates representing the third BROTHER of the rich man?
To be continued...

OLAADEGBU:
Disputes should be settled in house not taken to the police or court of law. Evil should be exposed and expelled not covered up as you do in your Jwickedness society.

So Olukoya, TB Joshua, Reverend King, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Oiyakilomeh, S.B.J Oshoffa and all other so called "pastors" are EVIL shey?
Prove that you're not against them by mentioning their good side if you truly believe they are members of the same body as Kumuyi.

And since 1914 Jesus began working with his chosen group!

OLAADEGBU:
Talk about yourself and leave others to defend their stance. Why should you always be referring to others who you neither know or believe in?

But you didn't leave Olukoya, Reverend King, TB Joshua rather you kept calling them out nah. Are they also members of the same body with Kumuyi?

OLAADEGBU:
Discussing Scripture with MaxInDHouse is like Eve discussing the word of God with the serpent. He is there to make you doubt, deny and disobey the word of God.

But you are OBEYING by causing discord among those you called children of God shey?

OLAADEGBU:
It is rather between good and evil and I pray that you will be able to discern between the two.

bennybuhari:
Na only God go settle this matter betweeen Olaadegbu and MFM

weyreypey:
He (OLAADEGBU) is a reprobate. If it’s not Dr Olukoya it will be Pastor Adeboye.

Hope you’re not sowing discord among your brethren?

MightySparrow:
I Iike this scripture.
Why did Jesus refuse the woman in the first instance? Jesus came to fulfill His Covenant with Israel. Part of which is healing Isaiah 53:5. He also came to put an end to the same Covenant to establish a new or a better one.
While under the Old Covenant, He healed only two people who were not children of Israel. Even, in the Old Covenant, any slaves bought with their money shared the same commonwealth.
Jesus healed the phonecian women and the servant of the Italian military officer.
The woman appealed for mercy, though not covenanted. The other, elders of Israel plead for him.
In the New Covenant, The spiritual gifts, spiritual blessings are for all
. Jesus came to fulfill Gen. 12: 1 -3.
In Jesus no Greek, no barbarian, ,,.
Eph.1.3 - Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

Timothy's father was a Greek, he was imparted by paul. Paul encouraged him to stir up the gift, not office he received. Be must have imparted many others in Rome .Rom.1.11
2Tim.1.6 - Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God, which is in thee by the putting on of my hands.
Note
Rom.1.11 - For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;
So, your argument is like you don't believe in the ministry of Paul. Did he make mistake?

Mention just one single none Israelite who used Jesus' name to perform a miracle in the Bible. Matthew 15:24

OLAADEGBU:
Folks would be shocked when they realise what Jwickedness are all about. They are there to hinder folks from going to heaven but to make them multiple times the children of hellfire.

OLAADEGBU:
It is rather between good and evil and I pray that you will be able to discern between the two.

bennybuhari:
Na only God go settle this matter betweeen Olaadegbu and MFM

weyreypey:
He (OLAADEGBU) is a reprobate. If it’s not Dr Olukoya it will be Pastor Adeboye.

Hope you’re not sowing discord among your brethren?

Na only God go settle this matter betweeen Olaadegbu and MFM[/quote]

weyreypey:
He (OLAADEGBU) is a reprobate. If it's not Dr Olukoya it will be Pastor Adeboye.

bennybuhari:
Na only God go settle this matter betweeen Olaadegbu and MFM

weyreypey:
He (OLAADEGBU) is a reprobate. If it's not Dr Olukoya it will be Pastor Adeboye.

Are these also members of that same body?

OLAADEGBU:
You have to be a member of the body of Christ for you to be qualified to participate in this discuss because we do not have the same basis of reference. We do not share the same faith, Lord, Bible or God. Sort yourself out if you truly want to make meaningful contribution to Christian threads otherwise keep to your own lane.

OLAADEGBU:
It is rather between good and evil and I pray that you will be able to discern between the two.

Hope you're not sowing discord among your brethren?

OLAADEGBU:
This is not a matter of who you are sentimental with but a matter of good vs evil, righteousness vs unrighteousness, light vs darkness and the Kingdom of God and the powers of darkness. If you cannot discern good from evil then you need to be delivered from the powers of darkness in the name of Jesus.

Now you're uniting your so called "children of God"