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Templee333:
Mr max Christians are followers of christ WHILE Jehovah's witnesses are followers of Rutherford and his successors. No long explanation!

OK!

FxMasterz:
Lol. Why do you like doing back and forth?
We're talking about your claims of your leaders being Christ's representatives!
We're like the Bereans today. We tested you with scriptures and you failed woefully.

The Beroeans checked the scriptures to figure out if what the Christians said about their leader is true so if you want to behave like the Beroeans you should figure out the true religion not just going about calling everything false!

FxMasterz:
My dear, the fact that many Priests, Scribes and Jews came to believe in Jesus even when He was still on earth makes your argument invalid. Look for another thing to say.
John 7:31
"Many among the crowds at the Temple believed in him. “After all,” they said, “would you expect the Messiah to do more miraculous signs than this man has done?”
Acts 6:7-11
"Then the word of God spread, and the number of the disciples multiplied greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many of the priests were obedient to the faith. And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and signs among the people."

So how come only 2% of Jews today agreed that Jesus was a prophet?

1914 the countdown began!

Steep:
Why then I'd your organization using the name "kingdom hall" since it is not in the bible, why did your organization call Jesus Micheal since scripture never said Jesus is Micheal?

Which one is not found written in the scriptures?

•Kingdom
•Hall
•Michael
•Jesus

FRANCISTOWN:
You wish.
Jesus is God, Jesus is not God.
Jesus with the controversial identity.
Jesus is black, Jesus is white. Jesus has come again , Jesus has not yet come.

😜😜😜😜

Yet his true followers have been working since 1919 till today and their work has been of great success!

Emusan:
Still perambulating around like kangaroo
What is the different between Christian and Jehovah Witness according to your own Title Or you just use that heading for nothing sake?
At least you mentioned that a Christian can still revert back while a Jehovah Witness can't.
So, what is your conclusion?
Bone don hook dog for throat

It's meant for those who will benefit from it not for everyone! 2Thessalonians 3:2

Emusan:
Still no proof.
Your lies can never and will never truth no matter many times you repeat it.

OK continue with your TRUTH!

FxMasterz:
He should tell us when and where Christ endorsed or announced them as His representatives.

You don't know what you're saying.
Go and face a Jewish Judaist and tell him when and where Jesus' name was endorsed or announced in the scriptures (OT) as the Christ.

In fact they will beat you up like anything if you can't point out that name from Genesis to Malachi, you think because his disciples have played their part in recognizing his as the Christ that makes you a believer?

Ọmọ whatever the disciples of Christ wrote in the (NT) is not for anyone today to believe that Jesus is the Christ anymore they have fought and won that battle, their writings is for you and i to IDENTIFY the GROUP following their footsteps today not about identifying the Christ again.

FxMasterz:
The claims you have can also be made by the Catholics and any other church.

The claim that the Christ has come can also be refuted by Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis since all of them had the scriptures back then and quoting from it.
So if Jesus' name or that of his disciples never appeared in the OT the Beroeans will take their time to study the scriptures thoroughly in order to ascertain if the young man from Nazareth and his disciples truly fulfilled many of the things written in the scriptures regarding the presence of the Christ in Israel.

Dsimmer:
Well, I'm talking about Yoruba culture which is valuable in the grand scheme of things because as I said, God (Olodumare) wants Yoruba to birth forth their intelligence and creative talents into technical realities to improve and civilize their society.
These are what the Orishas represent. As a matter of fact, Yoruba ancestors understood all that and that was why the ancestors invented a lot such as several fabrics, beads, metallurgy, several creative arts, farming tools/machineries, ancient pavement roads in Ife, several food cuisines, Ifa technology, musical instruments such as drums, Agidigbo string instrument, Agogo, sekere etc. And so-on.

OK thanks for your time!

FxMasterz:
His birthplace and nature of conception singled Him out.

So if Jesus' name wasn't found written in the OT and you're here questioning the authenticity of his reps that their names weren't written in the scriptures then see yourself as a potential unbelieving Jew criticizing and persecuting Jesus' disciples in the first century because the first question they will ask is:
"What name did the scriptures say the Messiah who is to be born by a virgin would be called?"
Note that the name was Emmanuel not Jesus. Isaiah 7:14
Then they will ask you "what is the name of the man you called the Messiah?"
If you should say "Jesus" it's a heavy slap you will receive in your cheek because to them you are LYING!

Ọmọ duty calls i've got business to do now so i may not be able to continue responding quickly to your post because i want to connect my business associates online.

See you later!

FxMasterz:
Where were their names written in the scripture you quoted?

Funny churchian.

Was Jesus' name written in the scriptures (OT) his disciples were quoting to prove that he is the Christ?

Dsimmer:
Ifa is valuable in Yoruba culture. It's all about civilization, intelligence, creativity, scientific knowledge.

The only problem is those unenlightened folks who misinterprete the ebo which are rather educative symbolism. Personally, I wouldn't have had problem with the ignorant people misinterpreting the ebo if not for those useless people killing human for sacrifice while forgetting the fact Ifa hates Human sacrifices to begin with. In addition, Ifa always says all the Orishas live within us. So why would any useless fool sacrifice a Human? Ori is an Orisha for example, so why would any fool offer Ori as a sacrifice? Yet such useless fool think Ifa accept such harmful evil stupidity? Although I know Ifa people don't make human sacrifice. it's actually some useless people parading themselves that do such useless acts.

Basically, Ifa is all about civilization, intelligent creative inventions, medicinal plants, agriculture..

It's like you've eaten too much this morning but it's OK, ọmọ stop this nonsense i'm not interested in all this rubbish!

FxMasterz:
So from the bolded, your GBs can be placed on the same pedestal with Jesus?

They are his representatives today! Matthew 24:45

Jesus said it will mean destruction for whoever fails to RECOGNIZE them and assist them in the time of the end when they will need the support of millions in doing the work Jesus assigned to them! Matthew 25:34-46

I'm sure you will find it difficult to understand but that's your problem not mine since you're not interested in knowing the group Jesus is using in the time of the end to gather his subjects throughout the earth!

Emusan:
I know it's a great and ever joyful for you that you have a follower like me. I know this thread is as result of my question, do I need to be a Jehovah Witness before I can be a believer in Christ? Yet you couldn't address the question nor even give clear answer to your own thread. That is why you created a thread with a Title: Christian and Jehovah Witness, is there any different? Yet you couldn't boldly mention their differences. Well from this statement of yours. The conclusion is
So, a Christian can't be called JEHOVAH WITNESS since he/she can turn back. So in a nutshell, a Christian is different from a Jehovah Witness. Lying liar! So it's SERVANT the scripture says but you first change it to SERVANTS. Keep lying for your gods and father the Devil.

It's evident that you people with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines trailing JWs up and down this forum are the descendants of Pharisees and Sadducees.

In the scriptures the disciples of Christ were going about preaching and teaching what they know just as Jehovah's Witnesses but unbelieving Jews through the area keep following them claiming they want to expose the lies Jesus' disciples are spreading about the Messiah (Christ) which the Jews don't believe has anything to do with Jesus of Nazareth. Act 13:45; 14:2, 19; 17:5

You and your fellow misinformed Churchians who has not agreed on how to worship your gods as one family but contradicting yourselves will always follow JWs up and down claiming they are lying but you can't present any of your churches that's preaching undiluted truth. Act 23:8

So we fully understand what is going on now!

Emusan:
If it's a wish it would have been my idea but it's not from God and it's from the Devil.
1914 remains false and not from God.
If not provide the proof from God's word.

OK continue your journey Jesus began reigning in heaven in the year 1914, whether you agree or not is none of our business!

Steep:
So you are saying your organization is deceiving people? Like the serpent in Eden

What name do you expect people outside who have been taught that the Christian religious book is called "Bible" to see in our publication before they can relate?

Dsimmer:
Ifa is Yoruba culture. Ifa is not only about the belief aspect which is centred around Olodumare btw but also, it entails scientific knowledge, creativity, technology etc.

Even before others knew about iron in the blood or about DNA, Yoruba ancestors already knew all these. Ogun which represent iron is in the blood as stated by Ifa. Remember Ogun bathes in blood as stated by Ifa who always speak in parables? And yes, Ogun which is iron is found in the blood. The ebo are also intellectual symbolism either to depict the personality of the Orisha or to depict scientific knowledge, creativity, agriculture/nutrition... For example, the dog represent intelligence, bravery and agility which are what Ogun represent.

As a matter of fact, the Orishas are the attributes of Olodumare which formed the universe, formed the human body and also the intelligent creative talents embedded within humans needing to be birthed into technical realities to develop their society and make it better just as several Yoruba ancestors had done by displaying the embedded intelligent creative talents within them 📌

Thanks for your time!

achorladey:
What is wrong with both desiring to be a pastor?

Nothing as they're members of a group where they are growing spiritually speaking and members of their group can testify to it unlike someone who just pick up the Bible and wants to become pastor over others?

Dsimmer:
Yes, it's Yoruba Ifa. So you don't know Yoruba was sent a messiah

Guy go ahead and tell your family in your faith jàre mẹ i'm not interested in your ifá and whatever it has to tell you!

achorladey:
What is in the 10% not about Jehovah’s witnesses?

As you said it's because you were still under brain damage back then but now that your brain is working perfectly how come you can't stand on your feet to criticize all the churches condemning others except Jehovah's Witnesses?

MightySparrow:
Which group?

Read his story so you won't say i lied again o!

achorladey:
Show me the deflection. See copy copy everywhere

You've made 13,000+ posts on Nairaland 95% is criticism against just one group JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.
So why aren't you criticizing Deeperlife?

Oya deflect again?

MightySparrow:
How did C. T. Russell become a pastor?
Who appointed J. F. Rutherford as the discreet slave? By desire?

Both men were MEMBERS of a group before they were chosen by their group nah!

achorladey:
Your madness and insanities peddling brains cannot see it and comprehend it the moment you say you share the same thing with them 100%

Chai see deflection again o!

MightySparrow:
You are dodging again.
Truth doesn't merry - go - round

If truth doesn't merry go round then answer this question affirmatively:

Between Kumuyi and Olukoya which one did OLAADEGBU consider FAKE with all his posts on Nairaland?

And why have you not been criticizing him for rubbishing one of your pastors?

achorladey:
The discussion I already ended before it started with appreciation from you.

You sef know sey you no fit!

achorladey:
It is the chruch that determines one desiring to be a pastor.

No it's the church that will appoint him he may desire to be a pastor but he must be a member of the church first that's where they will notice his advancement! 1Timothy 4:15

Dsimmer:
Jesus was not created though. He was begotten. Funnily, I was able to understand Christianity the more through the lens of Yoruba religion, considering the similarities of it and Ela born of a virgin woman was also sent to the Yoruba.

Anyways, Ela who is Omoloju Olodumare is the visible manifestation of the supreme creator 'Oluwa Olorun Olodumare' who's a spirit according to Ifa. What's Ela in Yoruba? Ela means a lot ranging from Light, Purity, Clarity, Word, intelligence etc. Basically, Olodumare (ìyè) is a spirit and the visible manifestation of himself is Ela (Omoloju Olodumare). Ela was not created but begotten. Ifa also infer Ela as Jewesun.

While in the bible, Jesus was also severally referred as the Lord (Ela).

Ọmọ Jesus don enter Ifá o!

Come and see one chance.

Over to the Churchians as Odùtọ́lá Ọpẹ́ifá has come to support your Trinity using ifá as proof!

achorladey:
What is the good news and truth.

Perfect topic.

So call any of your friends to start a thread and tag just the two of us.

Let's prove what we know about the Good News and Truth as found in the Bible!

achorladey:
What is wrong in picking a bible reading, study on your own and desiring to become a pastor?

Why do you think Kumuyi, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Olukoya and co refused to acknowledge the ministry of TB Joshua?

Well i know you won't like to answer directly so i will help you.

It's because they don't know the church he has attended before where he was ordained as a pastor!

Do you now see why it's wrong picking up the Bible on your own and desiring to be a pastor?