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Michaeltreasure:
OK then. What do we say about evil happenings? Are they beyond God's control, or he deliberately allows then to happen? I'm confused sir...

God allowed it because that's what our first parents demanded: absolute freedom to set standards for themselves. Genesis 3:5
So God stepped aside for mankind to see the result of what Adam and Eve wanted.

MiddleDimension:
The political situation between the Watchtower Organization of Pennsylvania (yes, JW org, like it or not, is involved in politics) and the Catholic Church, is that of antagonism and finger-pointing where the JWs are the anatgonists and accuser of the brethern (the role of the devil), while the Catholic Church is more like Jesus who, like a lamb being led to the slaughter..., does not turn his face against insults and spittle because the lord Yahweh comes to their help so that they are untouched by the insults (Isaiah 53:7; 50: 5-9).

It's like you're obsessed with politics but as for me there's nothing like politics in JW organization.

Michaeltreasure:
God bless you too sir. I appreciate your explanation.
But from the modern Christian point of view, everything that happens, whether good or bad, is God's Will. What do you say about them? Ignorance or misinterpretation of scripture?

Misinterpretation!

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not read the bible to see all that God Said?

This is what my Bible say:

But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away. 2Timothy 3:1-5

The highlighted in blue says it all.
The tribulations is as a result of human factor not God's will!

Dtruthspeaker:
Did the bible not lay out how Esau's sinned? Did the bible say mistake or material blessings was his sin?

Which sin exactly did Esau committed?

Thanks to my followers.
Jesus made sure that his own followers were well organized and orderly since 1914 till today!

Emusan:
So for you to tell people conclusion of your own thread is hard for you.

Meanwhile, are you setting the rule on Nairaland?

Well, you can't do that because it's not your hall even in your hall you don't have that power as you have to lobby.

I've created many threads to preach my God the Father of the Universe who came to earth as human to reedem mankind.

You can check my profile for that!

Try to spice up your message to make it attractive to others not just following me up and down the forum.
Thanks!

SharonLoveth:
You mean your Jw's god is in charge of your confusion and ignorance?

Whatever you say ma! 1Peter 3:13-15

MrBrownJay1:
WHAT HAS YOUR IMAGINARY GOD EVER DONE FOR HUMANITY IN THE LAST 2000YEARS (apart for brainwashing ignoramus) THAT YOU CAN BE PROUD AND CONFIRM THAT IT WAS ITS DOING?![/b]

I love this question like die, if not because you are an atheist i would have said "God bless you in multiple folds" for this thought provoking question!

The true God promised to help obedient mankind settle their disparities peacefully among themselves as they divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop producing, buying selling and using of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4;1-3

With God's word there has sufficed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers today in the name of Jehovah's Witnesses in fact if everyone pay attention to what they're saying there will be abundance of food for the whole world as all our resources will be channeled into production of food and information materials and nobody will think of spending billions of dollars on destructive devices again.

He didn't use force nor weapons to achieve this rather He only send out His Holy Spirit (Active Force) to gather sincere and honest hearted individuals throughout the earth to make it happen! Zechariah 4:6

There were two men one a very rich man who has everything at his disposal and another man (a beggar) who is always brought to the gate of the rich man, moreover there were sours all over the beggars body and dogs used to lick his sours.
The rich man wasn't said to be unkind because it's the pleasure of the poor beggar to eat the crumbles that's falling off the table of the rich man.

Both of them died!

Now the poor beggar found himself in the bosom of Abraham but the rich man found himself in the grave (hell) suffering torment.

The narrator (Jesus of Nazareth) didn't tell any good works of the poor beggar neither did he tell of any evil deeds of the rich man.

What i want to bring to your notice today is the statement of the rich man who said:

I have five brothers, in order that he (Lazarus) may give them a thorough witness so that they will not also come into this place of torment. Luke 16:28

So where is the household of the rich man's father and who are his brothers?

Dtruthspeaker:
Argue that with Hebrew 12:17
17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

That's what i'm asking you:

Was Esau REPENTANT due to his mistakes or seeking material blessings?

Dtruthspeaker:
I have answered the question by reminding you.that God Warned us that these Tribulations shall come!

Are these tribulations from God or the result of Adamic sin inherited by his descendants?

Dtruthspeaker:
See clear proof that you jws are devils specifically you, for God forewarned many.many things that have now come which we now see
2 Timothy 3
"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come:

You didn't answer the question:

Are the untimely deaths and troubles facing faithful servants of God today the result of God's will?

In the illustration of Lazarus and the rich man the man talked about having five brothers in his father's house. Luke 16:27-28
Would you like to know them?

Can you quote the word "RAPTURE" in the Bible?

PastorAIO:
LOL! Are you making satire of yourself?

PastorAIO:
My very unbiblical opinion.

From a PASTOR!

Dtruthspeaker:
Which "genuine" is more than a seeking repentance with tears and care?

Did Esau REPENTED or CRYING due to his lost?

Perhaps you don't know the meaning of that word "repent" it means you regretting your actions and willingness to go back and right the wrong but Esau never did that what he was targeting is riches and since he later became rich he taught he has gotten the blessing he deserves not knowing that what Jacob saw was far much more than material things, it was the blessing of becoming the one through whom the Saviour will be born.
That was what Jacob bought from Esau with a plate of stew not material blessings!

Dtruthspeaker:
Stop lying jw.
God warned us of The great Tribulations and His Wrath but like you, you people never hear.

So the death of faithful people around you is as a result of the wrath of your god?

PastorAIO:
My very unbiblical opinion.

Pastor!

FxMasterz:
Impossible!

Your friends are deceiving you but you're also a deceitful person yourself {2Timothy 3:13} so there's no way to help you.

You're just gullibly following apostates without a second thought.

You refused to think about what they've been doing after leaving God's organization at least if they're believers in Christ Jesus shouldn't there be a time when they will start a thread to preach about Jesus without having to think of the organization they left behind?

These are the names of those i can remember on this forum:

• achorladey
• rottennaija
• Templee33
• oteneaaron
• wumiwumi
• Hairyranpunzel
• RussellRutherfo
• Sand2022
I will continue to add when i catch them.
Check any of them and see if they have been preaching about Jesus at all on this forum, all what they can think of are the last things they got from Jehovah's Witnesses organization and the WORSTEST thing about them is that they can't worship anywhere else rather they're still attending meetings with Jehovah's Witnesses following all our updates despite saying that we are worshiping the devil.
Ọmọ i know you hate us so much that's why you've been blinded and rendered deaf spiritually speaking but i will continue to tell you the truth about apostates.
Jesus made the illustration of Lazarus and the Rich man regarding apostates:
Do you remember the rich man begging Lazarus for droplets of water to cool his thirst? Luke 16:24-26
Well that's exactly what is happening to all the apostates today Satan and his demons has captured their hearts since they're not ready to allow God's organization to shapen their minds they are now empty spiritually speaking so they can't go forward in their spiritual journey anymore all they can do is to keep thinking as in meditating on what they lost {Matthew 12:43-45} and just like their brothers {Luke 16:27-28} the first century Jewish apostates they're now going about sadly looking for opportunities to malign the true God's modern day servants! Act 13:50; 14:2, 19; 17:3

Let anyone who has ears listen! Matthew 13:9

FxMasterz:
Are you saying the Bible lied?

The Bible was written by Jesus' disciples that's why critics today will tell you that Jesus never existed at all because no reputable Jewish historian in his time pen down anything about his life or activities. First century Jew in their millions back then rejected him and whatever his disciples wrote about him and that's what 98% of their descendants till today believe that Jesus was fake!
https://www.youtube.com/live/Za5L5G08A8g?si=aQTkO-2prMI9TbkQ

FxMasterz:
We've checked you out. You're as fake as your fake prophecies of Christ's coming.

You need to guard your heart first before you can unravel the sacred secret behind all these things {Proverbs 4:23} think of the Jews who totally disagreed with Jesus and his first century Jewish disciples.
Ask yourself what could have been the problem since this people has been expecting the Messiah (Christ) right from the time Moses penned down what was recorded in the Bible book of Deuteronomy 18:18-19? So that by the time Jesus arrived and began fulfilling things written about the Messiah they find it really hard to accept him.
Well 98% of Jews back then checked Jesus and his credentials and concluded that he was FAKE.
So it's no surprise you're now saying the same thing about God's organization today.

MrBrownJay1:
you cant expect everyone to agree with a country's law... but these are the laws that were voted by that country therefore you must abide by these laws OR take the necessary steps to change these laws.

The moment you say:

MrBrownJay1:
that "god" is only a god of love if you obey him AND do exactly what he wants you to do... but if you do anything that this god is against, he will turn into the BIGGEST DEVIL ON EARTH! any god that allows MURDER; GENOCIDES AND ETHNIC CLEANSING; RAPE; SLAVERY; SELLING OF YOUR CHILDREN FOR PROSTITUTION; MUTILATION AND ABUSE OF CHILDREN; STONING; HUMAN SACRIFICE etc is an evil god!

I know you have been brainwashed by ATHEISM and your IQ will be so low that you will wrap yourself up in your own words.

Take it or leave it no human government is perfect enough to set laws for humans because they can't solve the problems facing their subjects so when the people protests it's due to partiality on the part of those in power.
The God you're antagonizing is the only solution to mankind's problems when talking about governance but since you have blacklisted Him in your mind and not ready to see reasons with what He did in the past (which is the only way forward) you will continue to lie to your own soul thinking wise people can't unravel the reason behind your frustration!

Michaeltreasure:
I usually hear of statements like, "What happened is God's Will, whenever a disaster happens. I don't understand. Is the will of God evil? The Bible says God loves us and has good thoughts towards us, if that's the case, why are bad things attributed to his will?
Below is a sceenshot of a persons comment on the Jos school building collapse...

Whatever EVIL that's happening now has nothing to do with the WILL of God it's the result of Adamic sin which will be tough during the last days.

This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God, whose WILL is that all sorts of people should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth. 1Timothy 2:3-4

So when Jesus said:

“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the WILL of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness! Matthew 7:21-23

Jesus meant Malachi's prophecy:

At that time those who fear Jehovah spoke with one another, each one with his companion, and Jehovah kept paying attention and listening. And a book of remembrance was written before him for those fearing Jehovah and for those meditating on his name. Malachi 3:16

So if you're not among those preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom spreading the message having to do with ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE of God's word or you're not among those welcoming those taking this message into people's homes {Matthew 10:11-13} then forget it you're not doing God's will it's in two ways: it's either you're among those taking this ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE to people's homes or you're one of those accepting the messengers into their homes.
The reason Malachi has told you names are written by angels following the messengers your name can only enter their book if you're one of those taking the message to people's homes or you're one of those welcoming the messengers! Revelations 20:15

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

So goes the warning about the endtime which began when Jesus returned to restructure his group in the year 1914!

Emusan:
You don't need to tell. don't forget I do remind you that always.
The truth still remains that 1914 is a fraudulent year and not from God.
Besides, do you recall at the beginning of this thread. Your only evidence was a video of an Apostate you provided to support your claim?
Well, you can go back for fresh memory!

OK, noted, thanks!

Emusan:
What is the different between Christian and Jehovah Witness according to your own thread? Or you want people to help you draw the conclusion?

Must you comment on my thread? Act 13:45, 50; 14:2, 19; 17:3

Why not start a thread to preach your own god?

The one closest to me!

weyreypey:
He is a reprobate. If it's not Dr Olukoya it will be Pastor Adeboye.

Why call him names?
You people don't know that the Piper dictates it's tune, if Kumuyi didn't infuse such hatred in the minds of Deeperlifers how come they are always behaving like members of other churches aren't Christians?
Well if you must know the truth today all the religions claiming Christians are worshiping different gods, Jesus of Nazareth prayed for his own disciples to have the same line of thought regarding sacred service so once your system of worship is not the same then know that you're not of the same sort. John 17:22

Even your Adeboye once prayed for his own followers that members of all other churches will bow before RCCG members.
So there's no difference!

GOD!

At times it's good to give unbelievers the tough times they never expected even though we are aware of their stiff-neckedness.
The Jews in the first century were expecting a man to be born by a virgin girl among them {Isaiah 7:14} he was to sit on the throne of Kind David as heir to his throne {Isaiah 9:6-7} and his reign will bring everlasting blessings first to the Jews and all the inhabitants of the earth. Isaiah 2:3-4
So by the time Jesus' disciples began preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all the districts of Judea and Jerusalem it was extremely difficult for most Jews to believe that Jesus the son of Mary that was executed just like the other two Judeans who also claimed they are the Christ is now the real Christ. Act 5:35-37
And for the past 2000 years people from other countries after reading books written by Jesus' disciples are claiming that this young man is the Christ despite all the reasons Jews are giving till today disputing that Jesus of Nazareth couldn't have been the Christ since all what they expected of the Messiah was never fulfilled in the first century neither has he started ruling going by the prophecy found written in their scrolls.
Big questions to be asked:
• Why didn't Jesus start to rule just as the scriptures say till today? Act 1:6
• What explanation did his first century Jewish disciples gave critics who were asking them about the fulfillment of the scriptures regarding the Christ?
• Jesus said when he returns to take over the rulership of the world even those who executed him will be present but all his disciples and those who killed him are no more today so are these words to be taken literally or as illustration?
Today a global family of peace loving worshipers has sufficed just as written in the Bible {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} these people are claiming that Jesus is responsible for their ability to form one big and happy global family {Act 1:8} because he returned in a hundred years ago and ever since then has been working in their midst to gather obedient mankind under one umbrella. Matthew 28:19-20
But billions of people (including individuals claiming they are also disciples of Christ today) are disputing what this global group is saying. Their reasons is that according to the writings of Jesus' disciples the young man will be seen by everyone when he returns to continue his work yet this group called Jehovah's Witnesses insisted that Jesus has been working in their midst since the year 1914.
Questions to be answered:
• Has it ever been possible for people from different geographical locations on this planet to form an organization of peace loving worshipers before?
• Why is it that out of all the religions claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines it's only this group (Jehovah's Witnesses) that are best organized in preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all the earth just as Jesus purposed in the Bible?
• Why is it that all the others claiming Christians are swept along with politics so that they pick up weapons to kill not only unbelievers but their own supposed brothers and sisters in Christ during wars whereas only Jehovah's Witnesses refused to join in such killings?
• When talking about rulership of the earth all other religions claiming they're Christians do participate in electing rulers except Jehovah's Witnesses who are saying Jesus their King is here with them so they're waiting patiently for him to start ruling the earth. Why?

Well nothing like these has happened on this planet ever since the creation of earth but since the year 1914 it began taking shape and all the inheritants of the earth can't deny what the scriptures foretold in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses the one and only organization claiming that Jesus the Prince of Peace has returned secretly and has been working with them since the year 1914.

FRANCISTOWN:
Lol! No go find one warmed shawarma chop.😜😜

So hunger is your own problem
Sorry o!

No wonder you can't think straight!