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Do you really care to know the truth about the topic of your thread or you just want to keep what you were told?

FxMasterz:
Maxindhouse, would you please answer these questions?

Ọmọ you and i don't belong to the same line of thought so stop mentioning me as if i owe you something, enjoy your friends with whom you share so much in common and take good care of yourself!

Israelhamas:
If confusion were a person.

Max: You can't say what another religionist believe is heresy. Whatever sounds heretic to you in his posts is truth to him.
Me: Fundamental truths (in the word of God) are not subjected to individual opinions.

With this you've lied unknowingly!

You're just one person asserting that Jesusjnr is wrong so before you can say fundamental truths are not subjected to individual opinions then you have to present a group of worshipers who agreed with your so called FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS!

CJStarz:
Absolutely!

My brother, it's been God all the way!
To Him alone be all the Glory!!!

Amen!

NNTR:
Misplaced priority.
Love that which frees you off your from ignorance and folly that makes you unable to tell what YHWH aka Yahweh or even JEHOVAH means.

I am particular of whether God's true and personal name is known or is unknown, so dont expect me to be that naive to get drawn into your rabbit hole.

An ignorant and stubborn fool is thought to be wise if he keeps silent and considered intelligent if he keeps his lips sealed.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Guy, you quoted the scriptures saying:
"PEOPLE (ASSEMBLY) DO RIGHT"
NOT
"PERSON (INDIVIDUAL) DO RIGHT"

So which group of PEOPLE are doing RIGHT?

AntiChristian:
Show us the followers of Obi in the Bible?
Lol I mean show us where Jesus mentioned obedient followers?

Guy the word obedient is coined out of the word "OBEY" so if the Bible say everyone who wants to be saved must OBEY the teachings of Christ doesn't that means only OBEDIENT MANKIND will be saved?

Aside that isn't your Allah requesting the same thing from it's worshipers?
Are you saying that those not obeying your Allah could be saved?

MightySparrow:
'Special imperfect organization'
The best of imperfect people on earth!

This is why i hate engaging you, you always think upside down!

If someone ask you:
"What do you think about the salvation of Muslims?"

Of course you will just quote your religious book, not so?
Is that not delusion?
Ọmọ you have to think deeper than that before you can chat with intelligent minds like me not just following the majority familiar to you!

NNTR:
Proverbs 14:9
Fools don't care if they are wrong,
but God is pleased when PEOPLE do right.

I love this quote!

Now i believe only Jehovah's Witnesses are the PEOPLE doing (working towards) what is right can you also present the PEOPLE you know that's doing what is right?

Do that and prove that you're not one of those FOOLS who doesn't care!

Israelhamas:
Speak for yourself. There is no room for diverse opinions about the salvation in Jesus Christ but if you think there is, then good luck to you. I knew what i was doing replying jesusjnr2020 and not another person. I don't have the time creating a whole thread to reply a random person, i did this because it was jesusjnr. You know what, never mind. When jesusjnr sees the thread, he understands what it means. That is why the thread is for him not you. I still appreciate your contributions all the same. Thanks buddy, i have to go now.

You set up this thread for Jesusjnr and i came to CORRECT you that what you're doing is HYPOCRISY!
You can't say what another religionist believe is heresy when there are countless religions out there with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they belong to the same leader: CHRIST.
So instead of directing your energy on just one out of thousands of diverse religious beliefs it will make sense to present the only religion that's practicing what Jesus taught in that case all false religionists will pick one or two points to learn from you but saying Jesusjnr is speaking heresy after he has been saying what sweet your belle is hypocrisy.

The Holy Spirit is teaching the real disciples of Christ Jesus how to apply scriptures {John 16:12-13} so that they can all believe and practice the same thing {John 17:22} that's why it's hypocrisy to turn a blind eye on thousands of different religions claiming they're followers of Jesus then picking out just one asserting it's heresy they're teaching!

AntiChristian:
The Messiah will die for the sins of obedient mankind!
Lol.

YES! The benefit of his sacrificial death will only be applied on obedient mankind not all humans that's the import of what is recorded in the Bible book of John 3:16-18

johnw47:
all false jw's here are dummies, but u aemmy,
it's really amazing how anyone can be so dum as u r

Thanks for commenting!

MightySparrow:
But, you and other Hall goers, always want people to argue their beliefs. Why can't the same be applicable to you?

Why not concentrate on me as a character and not generalizing what you think Jehovah's Witnesses are doing?
I don't like arguing people's beliefs that's why i put up the bold face of
"the one and only true religion"

So if you know you have a better performing group then you can engage me with the aim of proving you've found something better.

Do you understand now?

johnw47:
lost false jw mad max

of course you cannot reply to truth, you support each other in lies:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

Thanks for commenting!

CJStarz:
Yep!

Hmmmmmmmmmm that means you are man enough to handle responsibilities.
God will help us because it's not easy these days! 2Timothy 3:1

NNTR:
Truth does not mind being questioned, while a lie does not like questionings nor take kindly to questionings.

Sincere questions needs honest response but baseless inquisition requires silence! Proverbs 14:7

johnw47:
Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at
Pro_10:10  He who winks the eye causes trouble, And a babbling fool will be ruined.
Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;

lost false jw mad max

babbling fool and deviser of perverse things (as above)
you can never stop lying even knowing that Jehovah is a witness to that, can you oh lost one

if your wedding was in 2024 when year would be your 4th anniversary
2028 like i say or other as your lying and confused brother aemmy says

i doubt you have the courage to reply, you support each other in lies

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Thanks for commenting!

AntiChristian:
Checking the contexts of these your citations I can see you are extremely lost!

OK o!

Aemmyjah:
On the highlighted, why don't u start counting 2024 as 1 just as u said about counting in your first comment

You get time o, nah this stupid John you dey follow yan. He has nothing in his head about God's word all he does is counter whatever a JW says so i have ignored him completely until he presents his church as evidence that he is WORKING with the real disciples of Christ. James 2:18-26 compare to John 5:17
Let him continue with his faithless friends after all they are his brothers even though they don't believe in God or Christ!

AntiChristian:
Were they expecting someone who would die for their sins and whose believe in his death is required for the salvation of mankind?

Of course the Israelite prophets kept revealing to their people that the Messiah will die for the sin of obedient mankind {Isaiah 53:8} and since the Jews will end up not believing him as the saviour of the world their city and Temple will be destroyed {Daniel 9:26} and so it was as the Roman armies came to destroy Jerusalem in the year 70 C.E.

AntiChristian:
Noah and Abraham never expected any Messiah in the Bible! It is not all the Prophets in the Bible! That's a lie.

Noah and Abraham surely knew that a prophet will come to restore the blessings God took away from the earth after Adam sinned! Genesis 3:17
That CURSE is what kept making things hard for mankind till today it's until God apply that ransom sacrifice of Christ that earth will be blessed again just as it was before Adam sinned! Psalms 67:6-7

NNTR:
Truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance
The truth will always be the truth even if no one believes it. Real eyes to realise real lies,

Your lie would have been exposed if you had attended to and addressed the easy direct simple, straightforward limited to five requests

So, its actually you, lying to your own soul, if when you say 'I am ....' in relation to yourself, that, it is to be taken as your real, true and personal name.

Listen, YHWH, aka Yahweh and even Jehovah arent a name of God. YHWH, and thats simply for the fact that, what you deemed to be a name, unquestionably is an expressive phrase

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

You are DECEIVING yourself!

The essence of TRUTH is to make hearers work together for their own benefits {Isaiah 48:17-18} so if anyone say he or she knows the truth but there is no WORKS {James 2:18-26} to show that these are those who knows it then such a person is lying to his or her soul.

Of all the Gods ever known in the history of mankind only JEHOVAH is WORKING {John 5:7} that's what make the difference between Him and all other Gods {Psalms 115:3-8} because others are dead while He is living so his people are always unitedly doing one thing or another as evidence {Isaiah 43:10} that He resides among them! 2Corinthians 6:16

So if someone says he or she knows the truth about God but can't present the people in whose midst the true God resides such a fellow is DECEIVING himself!

CJStarz:
Nahhhh
Family first 😂

Are you married?

NNTR:
Humour us with attending and addressing to the below easy direct simple, straightforward limited to five requests

1. Pronounce or vocalise YHWH?
2. What does 'Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh' mean?
3. What to your best understanding is God's true and personal name is
4. Where did Moses tell the Israelites what God's true and personal name is?
5. Where and when the Jesus incontrovertibly state what God's true and personal name is?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

You are lying to your own soul!

Israelhamas:
You're missing the point.
You're the one talking about diversity while I only kept telling you that diversity doesn't mean there are no fundamental truths.
In the midst of diverse opinions, there is still the actual fact. You're welcome all the same.

You are DECEIVING yourself!


Jesusjnr belongs to a group of worshipers and he is saying what they taught him so you can't say it's heresy as long as you agree that there is room for diverse opinions!

AntiChristian:
Jesus is not an exception!

This is what Islamists always claim but i'm sorry my friend Islam has nothing to do with what is written in the Bible.

All the prophets from Moses were expecting the Messiah which Jesus' disciples concluded that Jesus is that Messiah so don't let Arabians mislead you Jesus is an exceptional prophet!

Emusan:
If any church DECIDED not to collect TITHE, good for them.

This is where you spoiled the whole thing!

How can you say God commanded something and at the same time some churches are not practicing it yet you want to admit that they are Christians and such is OK for them?

That's why you and your friends are always at loggerheads with Jehovah's Witnesses because to Jehovah's Witnesses whatever we are sure God mandated for his worshipers must be practiced any group not doing what God says are not worshiping that God who commanded it.

So you're not a Christian as i've always told you real disciples of Christ must have the same line of thought on what God required of His worshipers {John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} it's pagans that contradicts one another yet agrees they're worshiping the same God!

AntiChristian:
You've said this so many times and I wonder what's your gain repeating it again and again!
Which money? You never answer the question!

Jesus said he came to lay down his life in exchange for many to gain salvation! Mark 10:45

Unless you won't accept what is found written in the New Testament!

Israelhamas:
It's not about Christians but the way life works.
We have one life but different religious beliefs - theists, atheists and others.
When you zoom in on atheists, you see different sects, the more you zoom in, the more it goes on.
When you also zoom in on theists, you see different sects with their different definition of God.
When you pick one of them for example those claiming Abrahamic God, you still see different sects.
Judaism, Islam, Christianity and others all said they're worshiping God of Abraham.
When you pick each of these, you still see them divided into further sects each claiming different or variant doctrines. It goes on.
That is life.

In all these, there exists the truth in the midst of lies, fact in the midst of opinions and the right answer in the midst of speculations.

So if others don't contradict themselves to the extent of calling out one another but agreed that it's OK to have diverse opinions why are you calling out someone who also believes in the same thing you believe simply because of diversity?

You can't say you welcome diversity yet calling out someone simply because he has a diverse opinion!

AntiChristian:
What's the logic behind the death of Jesus for the sins of Mankind?
And did Jesus ever tell anyone to believe in his death to be saved?
Who benefits from the death and how will one benefit as stated by Jesus in the New Testament?

I was like you in Islam before i accepted these things so when i respond to you try to listen if anyone tries to deceive you because they're making money from their religion you should be intelligent enough to know that that's not my own motive i'm explaining what i'm fully convinced of so calm down and let's reason!

Emusan:
High priest don't demand Tithe from anyone, I've corrected this your lie before.
Jesus didn't call Himself High Priest, so how can people give him Tithe?
Besides, their were already High Priest during the day of Jesus, so Jesus can't just be claiming to be an High Priest when He is not from Levites.
You're a liar!
Sabbath, Tithe and Circumcision are part of ETERNAL practices even before making it to the law.
You'll I already explained this in my first post just that Chirst brought their true MEANING.
You already agreed that both people must GIVE SOMETHING BACK TO JESUS like Melchizedek.
So going back now to claim Tithe isn't part of the new covenant is delusional.
It was that same truth made you to say, what Jesus demands is our TIME and TIME is MONEY.
It's evident you're agreed that scripture supported TITHE but as usual defending doctrine and not the scripture is the reason you're trying to spin or reverse your words.
This has nothing about Tithe.
The office of High Priest exists today and God's command is for people to give Tithe to the High Priest.
You're a liar!
The writer of the book of Hebrew won't go that length to call Jesus the High Priest in ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK for nothing.
Let the truth hit you hard!

So all the churches that aren't preaching tithe, Circumcision and Sabbath (Saturday worship) are liars shey?
My guy take care!

Westerhoffe:
It baffles me at times that many of you don't have deep experiences of the spiritual things.
You wanted to twist my comment, but you have forgotten that king David said these in his prayers to GOD:
“For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.”
— Psalms 16:10 (KJV)
Moreover, the same Job you mentioned said this:
Job 10 (KJV)
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²⁰ Are not my days few? cease then, and let me alone, that I may take comfort a little,
²¹ Before I go whence I shall not return, even to the land of darkness and the shadow of death;
²² A land of darkness, as darkness itself; and of the shadow of death, without any order, and where the light is as darkness.

And our LORD JESUS CHRIST, who also went down to Hell, the Bible said this about His journey there:
1 Peter 3 (KJV)
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¹⁸ For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
¹⁹ By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
²⁰ Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
Most of you don't read the Bible, talkless understanding what it is saying.

Preach that in your church!

Aemmyjah:
If J is not in the Hebrew or Greek translation, why then is J is Jesus not an issue to him but an issue with the Divine name?

Satan is just depriving them to everlasting joy due to their arrogance!

Aemmyjah:
Maxindhouse
This Student used to skip mathematics class in creche
I can use his same logic and ask him how many hours interval is 12pm to 11am counting backwards and he'll say it's 2 hours

I've learned over the years to be lenient with Unbelievers after all faith is not a possession of all kinds of people! 2Thessalonians 3:2