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Emusan:
Jesus is the High Priest!
True or false?

True!

The High Priest who never collected money as tithes from anybody!

achorladey:
Since they know what you call God's organization is a man-made creation and concept used to subject and capture man like you under fellow men

Thanks for commenting!

Deepspirituals:
Learning everyday

That's what "FAITHFUL" means preparedness to learn and adapt to enlightenment!

Cancri:
He is speaking the truth

Are you sure of what you just typed?

Well Jesus is the TRUTH and no one knows the truth about God's viewpoint better than Jesus. John 14:6
This is what he commanded his disciples:

“But I say to you who are listening: Continue to love your enemies, to do good to those hating you, to bless those cursing you, to pray for those who are insulting you. To him who strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also; and from him who takes away your outer garment, do not withhold the inner garment either. Give to everyone asking you, and from the one taking your things away, do not ask them back" Luke 6:27-30

After comparing the OP with the above do you still think the OP is speaking the truth?

jaephoenix:
Ogbeni, I said 'if'. I assume you know what that means

What of if you BELIEVE?

But to be frank with you it's rare to see people who say good things about God's organization!

SALAM simply means PEACE which means when a Muslim is greeting you "SALAM" he is wishing you PEACE.

When Muhammad started this religion he had no intention of being troublesome but by the time he faced the realities of life he lost what he had in mind from the onset: PEACE.

So there is no religion that can achieve real peace if they fail to adhere strictly to the words of the PRINCE of PEACE! Isaiah 8:6 compare to Act 1:8

I'm interested in this topic!

jaephoenix:
So if I pray for safety, how does your God grant me the wish

First of all you don't believe (trust) in my God so it's impossible for you to pray neither expect anything from my God in whom you do not trust! Hebrews 11:6

The greatest of all believers in my God is Jesus of Nazareth this is how he prayed for safety with certainty:

“Father, into your hands I entrust my spirit.” Luke 23:46

He prayed with strong faith and he was heard {Hebrews 5:7} as my God brought him back to life the third day! Act 10:40

That's the safest way ever!

jaephoenix:
Explain the bolded

Calling on you means the caller needs you but that doesn't mean you must respond the way everyone expected, your system of response largely depends on what you know the caller needs which may not be the way most people watching expected.

Emusan:
These are misconceptions about Tithe and wrong interpretation of Heb 7:11-12.
There's no commandment in the NT to pay Tithe simply because the commandment already be given in the OT in which Jesus Himself will fulfill, so Jesus can't just annull Tithing because it's part of His mission.

First century Jewish Christians never practiced tithing!

If someone say you should "call in him In times of trouble" what exactly should come to your mind? Are you to expect him or her to do something he doesn't always do or what he always do?
Well calling on God is one thing but knowing how He always handle cases is another thing.

His only begotten Son according to the Bible is Jesus of Nazareth when he was in trouble he called on the same God what he got from God is salvation as in assurance of his resurrection not instant relief!

johnw47:
Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at
Pro_10:10  He who winks the eye causes trouble, And a babbling fool will be ruined.
Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;



lost false jw mad max

babbling fool and deviser of perverse things, editing the topic name couldn't be easier,
even a dummy should easily figure it out, but not a dum uneducated one



false jw, here is another example of uneducated;
" Difference Between The He INNOCENT And The FAITHFUL "

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

Thanks for commenting!

Ken4Christ:
You will perish due to ignorance. And also because you are in a cult group where you are fed with only lies.

Did Jesus give the instructions below to celebrities?

Luke 12:33
Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.

The early church did it. We're they celebrities?

Leave that cult group, you will not hear. Worse is your final destination in the pit of hell.

Are you in anyway a believer at all?

You're always raising CURSES whenever others don't agree with you, it's unchristian please try to work on that it doesn't speak well of one claiming Christlike! Luke 6:27-28

Jesus didn't say his disciples should sell EVERYTHING they had and give them to the poor otherwise how can they have bags and continue to be kind if they've sold everything and given it away?

Talking about problems the nations are facing the Bible made it clear that God has nothing to do with the way nations are deteriorating because Satan is the ruler of the world! Luke 4:5-7; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19

So the world will continue to get worse under human government {Ecclesiastes 8:9} due to greed in the hearts of their rulers {Ecclesiastes 4:1} that's why Jesus told his contemporaries to continue praying for God's Kingdom to come.
There's no way out!
One can only find a temporary solution to his or her own pressing needs perhaps chances unexpected comes their way {Ecclesiastes 9:11} but as regards getting things right now i'm afraid it's impossible.

Countries are experiencing different problems as a result of the attitudes of people living in each geographical location and as you and i know for sure that it's impossible to change people's minds instead of reducing the problem as long as the people refuse to change their ways things will continue to get worse!

The problem with black nations started when the colonial masters made our brothers slaves on our own soil, before they do come to take us away as slaves but when they came to rule over us they relegated our system of rule to nothing as our king were rendered worthless before them and they lived like demigods using our people as cooks, gate men, drivers, security guards, gardeners and so on only for our brothers to start seeking the support of our people to join in sending them packing.

Now they are gone but what has happened to the black man's brains?
Well now that the white man has returned to his country our brothers they left the office for now wants to live not like their own bosses who were demigods rather they are now living like gods at the detriment of their own people's welfare!

johnw47:
" The Religion The Is Practicing What Jesus Taught. "
their lack of even basic education shows

"The Religion That's Practicing What Jesus Taught"
Error in texting if you know how to edit topic tell me no one knows everything here on NL.

However thanks for commenting!

MaxInDHouse:
Children destroyed during the flood of Noah's day, in Sodom and Gomorah, Jericho and Amalek. Are they IGNORANT or INNOCENT?

gohf:
they were wicked

Interestingly most people think babies are innocent simply because they can't choose whether to be good or evil but here is another person who concluded that babies are evil as in WICKED!

Matthew 24:7-14

It all started in the year 1914

epfa:
All the religions are part of "Babylon the Great."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFi-zN6jSD4

Jesus never set up pharisaical hierarchies. He told the clergy-types in the first century to knock-it-off, to stop lording it over people, and not to act like "benefactors" or "kings."

"You are all brothers," Jesus said.

"Christian" means someone who follows Christ. None of the religious institutions teach to follow Christ. Instead they teach to follow their corporation, their clergy class, their "Pope" or "Faithful Discreet Slave" or "Quorum" or something like that.

Jesus said when he comes back he's going to bring the angels with him, and all those "weeds" will be dissolved. The religious institutions will be dissolved, figuratively "burned up." Revelation shows that with God's permission the governments of the nations will take part in stripping the religious institutions of all their financial assets. When the religious institutions are dissolved, the hypocritical religious leaders will "weep and gnash their teeth" because their fraudulently extorted money-making schemes and power trips will be over.

Thank God.

Please why are you only alert to worshipers of Satan but can't present worshipers of the true God?

God's organization has been raised above all others just as JEHOVAH promised!

https://www.nairaland.com/5455718/how-jehovahs-witnesses-better-christians

https://www.nairaland.com/8104868/7-reasons-why-respect-jehovahs

https://www.nairaland.com/5546339/why-jehovahs-witnesses-most-united

https://www.nairaland.com/4340352/examining-talk-jehovahs-witnesses-only

Matthew 5:13-16

Michael547:
So you mean you don't know the name of the God that you worship?

Highly Spiritual Question! Micah 4:5

Ken4Christ:
I supported my claim with scriptures from the very lips of my Lord Jesus. And in Matthew 28:19-20, he commanded that we should go and teach everything he has commanded. And one of his commands says we should sell whatsoever we have and give to the poor. If you can't give 10%, is it selling your assets to help the poor that you will do?

Jesus didn't command us to sell our assets and give it away, the man who came to Jesus was a politician who lives a celebrity lifestyle so to become so lowly and start going to pay uninvited visits to people in his neighborhood will be difficult for him due to his social status that's what Jesus admonished him to sell away and things that may warrant him being the focus of most people when he's with fellow Christians.
To fully understand try to imagine people like Goodswill Akpabio, Babajide Sanwoolu, Femi Gbajabiamila to carry Bible with another fellow Christian knocking on people's doors with the aim of preaching from house to house, do you think householders will listen to what they're preaching?
Of course not! In fact residents in such areas will storm the street waiting for him to come and answer series of questions regarding how their government has failed woefully in meeting the needs of their subjects!

Therefore if such a person wants to cross over from the world kingdom to God's kingdom and become part of those who will rule with Christ then he must do away with all the things that has to do with worldly kingdom along with all it's riches. That's what happened there.

If it's about selling everything we have and giving to the poor as you are thinking do you think a Christian will be able to take care of his immediate family?

So you're getting it all wrong. Jesus didn't command his disciples to sell everything they had that admonish is for politicians and those in governance whose lifestyle is all about celebrity that needs such not all Christians, that is why Jesus never said the same thing to others!

Aemmyjah:
At your word
I'm not engaging them again or dropping anything on their thread

Ecclesiastes 3:7

oteneaaron:
When they can't provide counter evidence, their only option is to hurl insults at others.

Evidence of what?

People has faith and from your own point of view faith in a God outside yourself makes no practical sense:

So what evidence again do you want?
Is it going to change your mind that it's now ok to worship someone apart from yourself?

oteneaaron:
You don't have to worship anybody or anything outside yourself.

Aemmyjah:
It's like people that are braindead
Or a woman that left her caring husband and is now living on the streets.
instead of finding a place to rest, she's talking nonsense about how bad he is and low IQ individuals like Fxmasterz will listen and believe. Someone's father for that matter

Please is it possible to just free him?

The apostates have captured him and infused hatred in his head so even though he meets a JW now who happens to do him a favor what he will like to do to such a brother is evil as long as he belongs to a "demonic cult" as he's been made to believe!

FxMasterz:
Alright. I understand your position but you should still be concerned about how so called godly organizations amass wealth.
There are pastors who force themselves to buy jets just because Oyedepo has them. Meanwhile Oyedepo's jets are all donations. But you can be rest assured he doesn't takes gifts from people whose sources of wealth are questionable.

It's OK my guy take care!

Aemmyjah:
Fxmasterz
Come and chop the new breakfast your father has cooked for you
Your dad, Courz really loves you so much to ensure you're well-fed

https://www.nairaland.com/8111618/thread-former-nigerian-jehovahs-witnesses

Do you notice something about the above link?

Certainly apostates are lifeless without JWs in fact i now understand why Jesus' brothers told us to shun them {Romans 16:17; 2John 10-11} no wonder they keep following us from thread to thread as if they still have business with us!

I really learned something from the way they all abandoned their own thread even though their friends were anticipating to see them pour in more comments but they disappointed all their friends as they don't have anything tangible to share after leaving God's organization.

May JEHOVAH bẹ praised!

Aemmyjah:
Old man
Pls define relief
Is relief not given to people that has been affected by a disaster or are in need?
Abi relief be like membership contribution or salary?
De play
Daddy Curse is cooking more sumptuous lies meals for you from the gutter. Just keep ur mouth wide open

Please it's time to let him be, when i told him that SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS differs from the righteousness of God he got provoked. Isaiah 64:6

It's obvious he doesn't know the righteousness of God he's carried away with those who want to establish their own righteousness! Romans 10:2-3

The problem with such individuals is that they don't grasp what the phrase "Only begotten Son of God" means instead of focusing on what Jesus taught his disciples to keep on doing they want to judge others based on what the world established as righteousness! Romans 10:4

brocab:
What more can I say?

I love this question!

You don't need to say much just present your church where all of you believe those stuffs and leave the rest i will see your faith in action among them! James 2:18-26

You're just repeating yourself which makes no practical sense all other churches and religions does exactly the same thing claiming they know God more than others so put all those stuffs into action let the world see how it's working out what is beneficial in your gathering!

CJStarz:
@achorladey and MaxInDHouse, truce guys.... truce. One love ❤️❤️

Thanks for sharing your experience with those spiritual patients among God's people. Matthew 9:12-13

Please anywhere you go don't forget that there are naturally nice people in all religions as well as evil people the naturally nice ones have taken this life simple to the extent that they no longer feel pressured to pursue material things therefore when you have something to do with them you will bless God's name for creating such virtuous beings. At the same time when you come in contact with desperate people who are feeling deprived due to their limited means you will wonder what exactly is their problem?

Jesus never condemn any of the two because he knows they're experiencing tough times that's making them anxious {Psalms 103:12-14} the only thing Jesus hate is anyone who despise FAITH in God.

How can someone despise FAITH?

Since God's love is for all He (God) wants all to be saved {2Peter 3:9} that's why He send His holy spirit to help in gathering obedient mankind throughout the earth under one umbrella {Isaiah 2:2} the person they are at first doesn't matter to God otherwise an armed robber who had killed so many people and robbed them of their valuables won't be granted a Visa to Paradise. Luke 23:41-43

So what exactly is God expecting from us today?

Righteousness and meekness {Zephaniah 2:2-3} note that both must go together because we must first of all humble ourselves under God's organization led by imperfect humans like us. Remember someone like Peter and all his blunders well that's the same person Jesus gave the keys to the kingdom of the heavens!

Can you imagine that!

This same Peter after receiving the gift of God's Holy Spirit and performing great signs he still committed another blunder which warrants Paul (a late comer in the house of faith belonging to the group of Apostles) chastising him with harsh words! Galatians 2:11-14

Now how will you feel to know that it's this same Peter that Jesus declared to saying:

"Whatever you may bind on earth will already be bound in the heavens, and whatever you may loosen on earth will already be loosened in the heavens.” Matthew 16:19

Do you think anyone who intentionally speaks against Peter after seeing his good qualities in the gathering of those he's shepherding can go any close tho God's kingdom? Matthew 12:31-32
So it will take great humility to be submissive under such an imperfect person! Matthew 5:5

I just laugh anytime i see people speaking against God's organization due to the flaws of members because i have seen that this group is the only organization fulfilling what was written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4

In those verses God never said they will have no flaws rather what He promised is that they will use what they find in the Bible to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop production, buying, selling and using of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4 Micah 4:1-3

So if anyone is complaining about the flaws in their midst i just keep laughing at such ones because the first century Christians had flaws too yet they keep fulfilling their role in God's purpose.

As for anyone you might think i have a grudge you will notice that i don't engage them with the intention to insult but to explain to them a reason for my faith as one of Jehovah's Witnesses! 1Peter 3:15


God bless you my friend and may you have PEACE!

Ken4Christ:
I agree. But they practiced what was more than tithing. Tithing is 10%. Some gave 100%. Others well above 70% of what they have. So, please start selling your assets and give to the poor. This is the new testament teaching. Luke 12:33. But if you can't do it, then begin with the 10% and gradually increase your giving over time.

For those who receive tithes, my advice is that they should set apart a percentage of it and reach out to the needy and poor in their midst and around them.

NO ADDITION NO SUBTRACTION! Revelations 22:18-19

FxMasterz:
They're very insincere people. See how he was dragging the matter from excuse to another. For every scripture verse that debunks his claims, he has another unrelated verse to drag another part of the discussion. I hate dishonest and dubious individuals.

Apostates have fingered your brain so much with their accusations that you now hate whoever is speaking about his faith shey?

So who has been MANIPULATED here?

Whether you hate or not it's your own cup of coffee neither you nor your cohorts can stop us from speaking freely about the one and only organization that's practicing true Christianity! Act 4:20