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oteneaaron:
Hahahahahaha
I am just waiting for any of them to come and claim that they are the only true religion because they don't support wars.
I am sincerely grateful to God for saving me from this evil religious cult.

Are they receiving gifts in form of weapons or money from a LEGIT means?

Do they buy weapons?
Do they sell weapons?
Do they make use of weapons?
Are they in support of weapon users?

The simple answer to all is NO!

oteneaaron:
Did this same God ask you to accept money from sale of weapons used to kill BILLIONS of the same humans he "created"?
So if a ritualist donates money made from the sale human body parts to your religion, you would accept it with open arms and your God would be fine with this right?
If El Chapo donates money from the sale of cociane to your religion, you would accept it with open arms right and your God would be fine with it right?
That says a lot about the kind of God you worship.
So now you speak for your God?
I thought the Bible teaches that God is Love?
How can the God of Love support a religion that accepts money from the sale of weapons that will still kill BILLIONS of people created by the same God of Love?
Does that not make God a liar?
Moreso, since your religion is so cool with accepting BLOOD MONEY from the sale of weapons as "gifts", that means you're just like everyone else.
Jehovah's Witnesses support WAR! - this is a FACT.

You go cry tire!

Does He approve paganism?
Why was He collecting gifts from pagans?

The question you supposed to ask is:

Why did God accept gifts from pagans who did not believe He is their Maker or Provider?

oteneaaron:
Your God says you should love your neighbor as yourself didn't he?
How can your God expect you to "love your neighbor as yourself" when you're making money from weapons that will kill your neighbor?
What kind of evil God is that?
Or do you really mean your 9 GODs (Guardians of Doctrines) in the United States?

We are talking about the God of Abraham who ACCEPTED GIFTS from PAGANS in EGYPT {Exodus 12:35-36} who ACCEPTED GIFTS from PAGANS in PERSIA {Ezra 3:7} who ACCEPTED GIFTS from PAGANS from BABYLON! Matthew 2:11

So taking GIFTS from anywhere is not a crime before JEHOVAH so far the giver gave it wholeheartedly from a LEGIT means!

oteneaaron:
Locked and Loaded!
Thank you admitting that truly, Jehovah's Witnesses and their organization WATCHTOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY OF PENNSYLVANIA, are beneficiaries of the money made from the sale of weapons of mass destruction!
This simply proves that Jehovah's Witnesses support WARS.
This also proves that Jehovah's Witnesses have blood on their hands because they make money from the death of millions of human beings who die from these weapons of mass destruction.
Thank you for being honest MaxInDHouse, this is first time you have been truthful on Nairaland.
We are making good progress.
CC: Emusan, Courz, FxMasterz, achorladey, brocab, stayingalive
This is HYPOCRISY in its highest form.
Why can't Watchtower simply say NO?
Why can't Watchtower say - "We don't support Wars, therefore we cannot accept money made from the sale of weapons of mass destruction"?
Why can't Watchtower say - "We love our neighbors as ourselves, therfore we cannot accept money made from weapons that will kill our neighbors who we love as ourselves"?
We all know why Watchtower cannot refuse such huge amount of money.
Once again, thank you for admission that Jehovah's Witness support WARS.
It is no more an accusation.
It now a FACT accepted by MaxInDHouse and Janosky that even though millions of people die from the sale of weapons of mass destruction, it is completely OK for Jehovah's Witnesses and their organization, to make money from the death of millions of people.

Cry cry baby!

You never cared if people are killing people as you are against God's organization that taught members never to engage in WARS but you're here now to accuse the same organization for accepting the gift from someone who invested his money.

If you're in your right senses you should know that it's the investor that's interested in God's organization and what we stand for not the other way around!

oteneaaron:
Production and sales of weapons of war is NOT illegal.

So it's not illegal for an investor to give God his own shares, you can't set standards for God!

The word HELL is the old English translation of the word SHEOL (Hebrew) and HADES (Greek) both simply means GRAVE.
GEHENNA is a valley behind Jerusalem where refuse is dumped in Jesus' day and since the Jews don't believe in the resurrection of evildoers {Psalms 9:17} they don't give such ones any befitting burial so they throw their bodies in Gehenna to rotten and be consumed by fire and worms there.

So the first century Jews fully understand what Jesus was saying they don't believe in a place of torment for living creatures just as their God abhor such ideas:

"And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart". Jeremiah 7:31

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bible.kingjamesbiblelite

oteneaaron:
I don't mind spoon feeding you today.
Your question - Is weapon production illegal in this world. My answer - Even though the production and sale of weapons has led to the killing BILLIONS of people, it is not" illegal" because WAR IS BIG BUISNESS. I repeat - Production and sales of weapons of war is NOT illegal. Even though it is not illegal to produce and sale weapons, it has led to death of BILLIONS of humans - this is a FACT! For example, more than 20,000 Palestinians have been killed by Isreal using weapons of war produced by companies like Raytheon and Boeing - the same companies your religion are making millions of dollars annually from as shareholders. Now that I have clearly answered your question, let me ask you a question -
As "real Christian", even though it is not illegal to produce and sale weapons, is it right for you to accept money made from the sale of weapons of war?

Obviously you have forgotten that i'm one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.
Ọmọ i no go school so i no sabi book that is why i say answer in simple terms so i can fully understand what you mean.

Is weapon production illegal in this world?

Na YES or NO i wan hear jọọ!

If production of weapons is a legit business in the world but an investor decides to give out his shares as support for the mass production of Watchtower, Awake and other Brochures surely Watchtower will become beneficiaries since the shares has been given to watchtower as the contribution from a subscriber who wants others to learn from God's organization.

This doesn't mean it's God's organization that deliberately invested in the production of weapons rather it's the shareholder who gave his own shares as a support to God's work.

Many individuals have given all what they had in support of the Kingdom GOOD NEWS like Charles Taze Russell who sold all what he had and used it to start the Watchtower for millions of people worldwide to gain accurate knowledge of God's word.

Here in Nigeria a former general in the army in person of Ibrahim Badamosi Babangida read a copy of the Awake magazine and subscribed for it's mass distribution in fact when some of his political friends decided to force Nigerians into reciting the National Anthem in the year 1984 it affected Jehovah's Witnesses badly in Nigeria for almost 18 months it's this same man Jehovah used to topple that military regime and freed God's people that it's not a must for anyone to recite the Anthem, he is the same person Jehovah used to stop some Muslims who wanted to Islamize Nigeria!

So if many of you don't know why most of his colleagues died while IBB is still alive till today let it be known among you all that he served JEHOVAH even though he wasn't aware by fighting for God's people!

oteneaaron:
You are the one throwing unnecessary tantrums.
I have answered your question.
Go back up and read the first paragraph in my response. You will find the your answer there - don't be lazy.
Stop beating around the bush.

If it's a one on one discussion that's when i'll give you such a preference by reading through all the nonsense and Ingredients you typed but since you're calling on others that makes it open so there's no reason hiding behind a finger:

Is weapon production illegal in this world?

Answer YES or NO then you can add Whatever you wish for your friends to enjoy you all i need is a straightforward answer!

johnw47:
my post was not to show another to be wise,

Of course your friend knows that you're just a fool with nothing in your skull so he will never ever ask you such intelligent question nah.

https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse

oteneaaron:
Since you're slow to read or comprehend, I will copy and paste my response again - Even though the production and sale of weaponshas led to the killing BILLIONS of people, it is not" illegal" because WAR IS BIG BUISNESS- So because the production of weapons is not "illegal", is that why your religion is making millions of dollars every year from the sale of these weapons of mass destruction? As a "real Christian" how can you say you don't support wars and yet, you enjoy the money made from the sale of weapons of war? If as a "real Christian" your faith finds nothing wrong with making money from the sale of weapons of war, which always leads to the death of millions of other human beings, then there must be something fundamentally wrong with your "faith". That also means you find nothing wrong in making money from the sale of human body parts by ritualists and kidnappers. That means you find nothing nothing wrong in making money from sale of hard drugs like Cociane and Fentanyl. Money made from the sale of weapons of war is BLOOD MONEY! You have blood on your hands.CC: Emusan, Courz, FxMasterz, achorladey, johnw47, brocab, stayingalive

Are you ashamed to answer the simple question?

Ọmọ i'm not interested in your lengthy story the question requires just a YES or NO answer:

Is weapon production illegal in this world?

Answer that first before throwing tantrums.

Meanwhile all your friends below are claiming they believe in Jesus of Nazareth yet you're not bothered to ask them if Jesus truly exist instead it's me (Maximus) you want to help you out.

CC: Emusan, Courz, FxMasterz, achorladey, johnw47, brocab, stayingalive

https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse

johnw47:
puffed up false jw mad max
Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;

Fool and spiritually blind Churchian! Matthew 23:17

If your friend realize that you are truly wise as you claim to be a disciple of the world's most wonderful counselor why didn't he ask you to prove that Jesus truly exist instead of trailing me from thread to thread asking me questions about the existence of Jesus?

https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse

oteneaaron:
Lol.
Who is competing with you on who is "wiser"?
You are quite boastful.
Psychology has proven that a boastful person is always secretly doubtful and afraid .
You say the devil is my father and yet, everyone on Nairaland knows you as a SHAMELESS LIAR.
You say the devil is my father and yet, it is you who has found nothing wrong in making money from the sale of weapons of mass destruction. Even though the production and sale of weapons has led to the killing BILLIONS of people, it not" illegal" because WAR IS BIG BUISNESS - So because the production of weapons is not "illegal", is that why your religion is making millions of dollars every year from the sale of these weapons of mass destruction? As a "real Christian" how can you say you don't support wars and yet, you enjoy the money made from the sale of weapons of war? If as a "real Christian" your faith finds nothing wrong with making money from the sale of weapons of war, which always leads to the death of millions of other human beings, then there must be something fundamentally wrong with your "faith". That also means you find nothing wrong in making money from the sale of human body parts by ritualists and kidnappers. That means you find nothing nothing wrong in making money from sale of hard drugs like Cociane and Fentanyl.
Money made from the sale of weapons of war is BLOOD MONEY!
You have blood on your hands.
CC: Emusan, Courz, FxMasterz, achorladey, johnw47

You have not answered the simple question:

Is weapon production illegal in this world?

As for WISDOM you know the reason why you abandoned all your friends who also claim they believe in Jesus only to start asking me if Jesus is a historical figure or myth.

So you know who is wise among us here only that you're ashamed to admit it because they will ask you why you left the gathering of the wise ones!

Why did Jesus command his disciples to LOVE their enemies? Luke 6:27-28

brocab:
There are two types of Sins, mocking Christ, one can be forgiven-in the other Hand mocking the Holy Spirit, there is no forgiveness.
Lairs do not inherit the Kingdom of God""It was your fathers who had followed the tradition of there fathers, they built the watchtower..
{1 Timothy 6} Men of corrupt minds destitute of the truth who suppose that godliness is a means to gain, from such withdraw yourselves.
This is a good answer why we don't attend your church, wrong teaching, your organisation is corrupt. .
God never told your organisation: to add or remove His Scriptures from the Written Word of God.
It's your organisations who have twisted God's Word, you were sent here by your father to destroy God's people. { John 8:44} lying to the nations, claiming to be the only organisation who have the keys to heaven.
The Watchtower have actually brainwashed you all to think the Watchtower has the key's to the throne room of God Jehovah..the Watchtower have delivery twisted the scriptures to gain access into everyone's life savings after death.
Sadly for you the Lord had already warned us about you wolves in sheep clothing, who have come to kill steal and destroy.

If you can't present one group of worshipers having the same line of thought like Jesus' real disciples {John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} then what makes you feel Jehovah's Witnesses a group having their own doctrine and teaching (as you all contradicting yourselves in teachings and doctrines) are wrong?

oteneaaron:
Just like you retreated when I asked you this question right?
Stop acting dumb, it doesn't suite you.

Unwise one!

Do you think i'm here to read all comments or the ones that are directed to me?

Well with the little discussion i've had with you on this forum it's clear that i'm a million times wiser than you so if you want to chat with me try to meditate thoroughly and carefully choose your words because neither you nor your father the devil can catch me with smooth talks.

Meanwhile the question is still there for you to answer:

You asked me if receiving money from weapon companies is OK with my faith and i asked you:

Is weapon production illegal in this world?

Why not answer! Matthew 21:27

Oteneaaron/Courz has retreated!

Please next time before you engage me make sure you meditate thoroughly because Jesus has taught us to be a million times wiser than you in responding to questions just that you will not publicly admit but we understand!

MaxInDHouse:
Please is weapon production illegal in the world?

oteneaaron:
So why is your religious organization making money from the sale of weapons of mass destruction?
How does that make you a "real christian"?
How can you say you don't support wars and yet, your religion is making money and benefiting from the sale of weapons of war?
Even your JW brother Janosky admitted that truly, your religion is making money from the sale of weapons.
He called it "unrighteous riches"
It didn't matter to him if the sale of those weapons led to the death of millions of innocent people.
Or are you saying you don't agree with him?

Please is weapon production illegal in the world?

oteneaaron:
As a "Christian" why do you support wars and the killing of millions with weapons of mass destruction?

At times you ask thought provoking questions but due to your self deceit you turn around to blur your own sense of reasoning when i give you a honest hearted and sincere response.

This is what Jesus of Nazareth the man called CHRIST taught his disciples:

You must LOVE your neighbours as yourself! Mark 12:31
You must LOVE your enemies! Luke 6:27-28
You must LOVE your fellow believers! John 13:34-35

Now do you think the REAL CHRISTIANS who are followers of CHRIST can support wars?

Of course you would if you choose to continue lying to your own soul but a sincere individual will know that those doing so aren't Jesus' real disciples rather they're BASTARDIZING that group name as in bringing a CURSE to it that's why the founder of the group said he will also disown them in the day of judgement for disowning him before their fellow humans! Matthew 10:33

Thanks!

Why did JEHOVAH order the Israelites to kill all the inhabitants of Canaan {Deuteronomy 9:3} but Jesus ordered is own disciples to pray for their enemies? Luke 6:27-28

Emusan:
Just calling his/her attention to your delusion.
Says the deluded lying liar Jws like his father the Devil.@stayingalive you see what I was talking about! And that's why your gods gave you A NEW NAME? SO WHY ARE YOU STILL CALLING YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN? Shameless lying liar! You'll go first!

Ntor!
I am a CHRISTIAN and nothing you can do about it!

Quintessence44:
That’s a pure lie.
GOOGLE IT!!!!

So you mean Google knew everything?

Guy it's not everything that those behind Google knows!

Emusan:
But the same lying liar jws will still later be claiming "Yes! I'm A Christian"
@stayingalive notice how he claimed the name CHRISTIAN is BASTARDISED AND CURSED and also God has given them a new name.
And look at the screenshot below, you'll see the same person saying "Whosoever thinks he BELONGS TO CHRIST under the BASTARDISED AND CURSED old group name(Christian) should think twice"
Could you believe that the person who made all these claims still going around on this forum shouting "Yes! I'm a Christian"

Are you saying the person i quoted can't read or she needs you to expatiate further before she can get it?

Ọmọ if you don't understand simple things like this you can hug a transformer, i am a CHRISTIAN but false religionists claiming they are Christians have BASTARDIZED that group name and turned it into a CURSE.

There you have it now kill yourself!

Quintessence44:
The New Testament was written at least 70 years after the alleged life of Jesus.

This is what the enemies of God's word told you but it's a lie, none was written 70 years except Revelations and the gospel of John both written 66 and 68 years after Jesus left them the rest were written within 30-36 years later!

Quintessence44:
How did the bible writer know that Joseph had a dream in which an angel told him it was God’s doing?
Did Joseph tell him?
Don’t forget the New Testament was written a century after the alleged events.
So who told those writers that Joseph had a dream?

All the events were recorded by Jesus' disciples who were his contemporaries they penned down all what we're reading today few decades after Jesus left them. Remember Mary (Jesus' mother) was with them {Act 1:14} so it's not difficult to know what happened during the pregnancy stage!

Stayingalive:
Stop avoiding questions.
Can you?
JW the cult group, please answer
Don’t divert questions.
Stop playing smart
Did Jesus tell you to do this. Is other churches your yardstick?

Jesus said:

“Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill" Matthew 5:17

So if Jesus never objected to God's command which says:

You must not form any marriage alliances with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons. For they will turn your sons away from following me to serve other gods; then Jehovah’s anger will blaze against you, and he will swiftly annihilate you. Deuteronomy 7:3-4

If you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses surely you can't know how to live with a JW so it's better you marry from the religion you practice!

Stayingalive:
The simple question is?
Would a JW feel unattacked if he decides to celebrate one’s birthday?

I never celebrated it when i was a youth though i don't know it's importance but when i started studying the Bible with God's people that's when i realized it's not biblical so i am happy i never wasted my money on something that's not beneficial!

Stayingalive:
Can a Jehovah witness dare sing the National anthem?

Do you know what Nebuchadnezzar used it for before throwing Shadrach, Meshach and abednego into the burning furnace?

Stayingalive:
Can a Jehovah witness dare marry from other denominations?

NO!

Stayingalive:
You have no choice as a JW, don’t drag Christianity into this. Christianity didn’t say you must only fellowship with Jehovah witness, Christianity didn’t say you should only marry from Jehovah witness. Bro you’re in a cage, I know it feels sad, I know you have no choice. You don’t.

I also understand the reason why most JW try to feel like they have an option or an opinion but in-depth they dare not do anything else other than their doctrines. So watch them make variation of their doctrines to suite line they can’t pass. You hear them say thinks like
1. I don’t actually like to vote
2. I don’t like how other church organize their services.
3. Other leaders don’t lead like the way it is in Jehovah witness
4. I don’t like celebrating birthday

😭😭😭🥺 I understand the need to find meaning

Try break one of those JW doctrine and let’s see where you end up. I dare you to try to think you’re free if you won’t be ostracized from the rest of JW. I dare you. You’re in a prison. I understand you try to find solace by trying to find meaning to your meaningless doctrines and indoctrination . It’s sad bro. I know


As for Nelson Mandela. I leave you to your twisted and warped view. Until the day you decide to be free. Enjoy your cage

The group name CHRISTIANS has been BASTARDIZED and CURSED that's why many false religions are hiding under it {Matthew 7:13-14} but never mind JEHOVAH has given us another group name now {Isaiah 65:15} that's why you failed to know that those countless religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines aren't true Christians. John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

Do churches of nowadays agree that they're on the same page?
Take for instance Deeperlife and Celestial or RCCG and Cherubim and Seraphim.
Do you think they can get married and continue attending their different religions?

AntiChristian:
When Hausa has another word for wine!
It's like using "omi osan" rather than "oti" in Yoruba to translate wine!
This is deceit in translation!

In some language there is no fitting word they can use for WINE that's why the only true God made provision in the Torah for His people:

You may then spend the money on whatever you desire—cattle, sheep, goats, WINE and other ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, and anything you please; and you will eat there before Jehovah your God and rejoice, you and your household. Deuteronomy 14:26

Note that WINE is mentioned and ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES so that in future times nobody can say the God of Abraham condemned Alcoholic drinks.

So it may be that in Hausa language there is no specific word for WINE so it's better to use Grape Juice after all WINE whether alcoholic or non-alcoholic is made from it.

FxMasterz:
Maxindhouse

It's obvious you're obsessed with that name "MaxInDhouse" but take heart you and i are not in the same page so continue worshiping with your kind. Matthew 13:30
May you have PEACE!

Stayingalive:
Dont play smart, address the part that you don’t have a choice to participate in politics. It’s a herd mentality. You as a person have no choice

As true Christians we have choices in some of the things in this world and in most we don't have a choice because we are guided by the teachings of our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus {2Corinthians 5:15 compare to Luke 14:27} so you're right true Christians are like those walking on a narrow path where there is little or no chances of switching lanes! Matthew 7:13-14

Stayingalive:
You simply twisted Nelson Mandela story and said he regretted not following Jehovah witness. Bro you’re indoctrinated too deep in this thinking. I wish I could free you. But you would break so no need

YES Nelson lost everything he had in his pursuit of political ambitions: his family, the trust most people had in him as if he will turn South Africa into a Paradise for indigenes, his hope of achieving what he had promised those who lost their lives and their bereaved families and most of all how to completely liberate Africa as a whole from colonial masters. All what was left for him was the program set by politicians just to please his people that he was once in office after all the struggle and today the name of Nelson Mandela has become part of the long list of South African presidents yet just a few years back his people were attacking their black brothers from other countries simply because they never got what they dreamed from their only hope: Nelson Mandela!
So you have no point at all, there has never been any elected politician who was able to turn around the condition of his people and there will never be. The reason for that i won't tell you because it's obvious you hate the truth.
However i have proved to know better than you do in what you are arguing about which is POLITICS!

AntiChristian:
Do you understand Hausa?
Grape is Inabi! Ruwa is Juice (or water)!
Did Jesus turn water to wine or Grape Juice?
johnydon22, this is the problem!

Since Hausa generally don't know wine grape juice is the best rendering!