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AntiChristian:
I agree it is not found therein.
So wine = Grape Juice to you too?

It's fermentation that makes it alcoholic!

AntiChristian:
You are a Jehovah witness who doesn't believe in trinity.
The majority of Christians are trinitarians and will do all they can to find trinity everywhere in the Bible!
Jesus turned water to wine in the Bible. It is not Grape Juice but wine. Calling wine Grape juice is deceit to capture the unsuspecting Hausas!
Hausas culturally detest wine! Is Grape juice same as wine? Why not Orange Juice?

Ruwan inabi = Grape Juice not wine

Please ask anyone to show you where the word "TRINITY" is found written in the Bible.

As for wine it is made from Grape fruit only when fermented that it becomes alcoholic!

Stayingalive:
even a small boy who only read history knows of Nelson Mandela. He even receive the Nobel peace prize award. You already said you don’t vote leaders so how can you then know effective or non effective leaders??

You keep repeating all your herd mentality knowledge and making it sound like you’re actually thinking meanwhile you’re not.
We both know you can’t vote. Your church would ostracized you. So you don’t have a choice.

I know you don’t have a choice, stop making it look like you do. Bro either have a reason or not, you dare not vote.

Accept the herd mentality
Stop pretending that you’re not one of the herd
Stop pretending like you can think outside JW
Stop creating your personal opinion to fit in JW
it’s also fine to say you don’t know why JW tell you to do somethings.
It’s fine to say you grew up with those ideologies and you’re not sure if they are right

Stop the hallucination
Stop pretending

Nelson Mandela who was frustrated after he realized that he can't make any changes shey?

Guy we know all about politics and voting than anyone on this planet so we will never ever vote for any imperfect human.

For your information Nelson Mandela regretted his refusal to follow his first wife who became one of Jehovah's Witnesses when she introduced the truth to him.
Nelson thought he could make a change with his team who were struggling for independence back then but he later realized that all those killed and his imprisonment was a waste of time that's why he declined running for a second tenure in office.
His first wife and her children are members of Jehovah's Witnesses until her death.
https://bitterwinter.org/mama-evelyn-mandelas-first-wife-and-the-tai-ji-men-case/

So you know nothing about what you're arguing here!

Quintessence44:
If it was me I would never believe such a story.
Joseph must have been a very foolish man, to buy that story.

He didn't just believe her but he wanted to leave her secretly because he knew her to be a decent girl from a good home. Matthew 1:19
It was after he had a dream and an angel told him that it's God's doing that he summed it up with what ancient prophets of God foretold about the coming of a Messiah that he later had a change of heart! Matthew 1:20-21

You can read for yourself:

Therefore, Jehovah himself will give you a sign: "Look! The young woman will become pregnant and will give birth to a son, and she will name him Im·manʹu·el" Isaiah 7:14

His friends also heard of the story but remains sceptical not until Jesus began performing great signs no prophet has ever done in Israel that they were ready to die with him:

All of this actually came about to fulfill what was spoken by Jehovah through his prophet, saying: “Look! The virgin will become pregnant and will give birth to a son, and they will name him Im·manʹu·el,” which means, when translated, “With Us Is God" Matthew 1:22-23

Thanks for considering our book, your book, God's word: Bible!

AntiChristian:
The belief that Jesus is God turned man!

The belief that Holy Spirit is God!

The Belief that the father is God!

1 + 1+ 1= (1 x 1 X 1) = 1 (Trinity)

The three are one, coequal, coeternal, omnipotent, omniscient, etc but only the son can die!

Sin against the Holy Spirt may not be forgiven!

I found out in the Hausa Bible! Jesus turned water to Fruit-Juice not wine! As Hausa man no dey drink wine!

When people study a book but failed to realize the source of guidance they will make grievous blunders!

*The Bible never said Jesus is God turned man!
Rather he is God's Son. Matthew 16:13-16

*The Holy Spirit is not a person but the active force God uses to accomplish His purpose.

*God is the father of all creations as He brought us all into existence.

*There is no such word in the Bible so it was a fabrication: Trinity.

*Trinity doctrine was fabricated so it has no root in the Bible.

*Sin against the Holy Spirit simply means when someone speaks against what he or she knows very well that only God's active force can make it happen, that means the person is never going to support whatever God does that is why Jesus said it's an unforgivable sin.

*Fruit wine is alcoholic when fermented.

Stayingalive:
They are just some set of confused people. They also try to lie so hard to themselves and do it in a way that they begin to think they have a mind of their own. Meanwhile it’s a branch of same tree.

May God bless you for the highlighted! John 15:5

Stayingalive:
Can you see you’re trying so hard to stick with your herd mentality. You have spent year confusing yourself into the JW realities and finally it seem you have began to believe the lies. Your brain is full of lies.

1. First you said no good leaders has ever been voted. Are you even learned? Or do you even know how to read at all?

2. You will support who others vote, do you even have a choice? Everyone must support the choice of the majority, stop saying obvious things and make them look like you’re saying something super or unexpected.

3. You will do everything except the one that stand against your faith. Who else does any against their faith?

Your problem is that you have been isolated so long you think you’re kinda special or doing something unique, meanwhile you’re lacking understanding in some fundamental things of life and your perception is quite bloated

Can you mention one elected ruler in the history of mankind who has reversed inflation and make life sweet for the electorate just at it was two decades before he is elected?
My guy, that has never happen and it will never ever happen in politics.

So in a nutshell i've not done anything wicked by remaining neutral shey?
That's all i ever wanted in life!

Stayingalive:
Your personal opinion is your personal opinion.
What is the reason behind not voting in leaders and supporting good leadings. Come down from that fence and help your community and be a useful person

You need to calm down and respect people's beliefs because it's not by force to agree with you so everyone is useful depending on where they are needed.

Now back to your question, i have told you that i will support a politically elected leader or military leader once they mount that seat with whatever they ask me to do {Romans 13:1-4} as long as it does not negates the order from my God! Mark 12:17

But when it comes to choosing them i will not participate because that's what causes hatred among people in fact brothers, friends, lovers and many more easily become enemies when they differ in choice of rulers yet none of them can guarantee that their preferred ruler will make life sweeter for the people {Psalms 146:3-4} for this reason i will prefer to remain neutral so whoever they choose is OK by me.

Moreover there has never been a time when people elect any leader whose rule makes life easier for the populace please find out throughout the world whether there has been a time when any ruler is elected and things became better for the voters rather things have always gotten worsen than ever before.

So i will like to remain neutral so i won't have to hate or be hated by my neighbours and loved ones because of politics!

Stayingalive:
Jehovah witness are mostly passionate and shallow mind people with no deep thinking mind to oppose anything they are told. I think the docility of its member is the only requirement to be JW, and this is as a result of solid indoctrination from childhood. Cause anyone with an inquisitive mindset would know that they are not coming correct.

This is what really moved me to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
I love adventures and when people say horrible things about something i make sure i verify to know exactly what is there but i'm just surprised that most people don't really know anything about Jehovah's Witnesses.
Take for instance you in person once asked me why i will not vote and i explained from my own PERSONAL conclusion on what's happening in politics but instead of seeing the reason as genuine you turn around telling me to answer for all Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the world.

Stayingalive:
very nonsense analogy. We had 18 aspirant but you voted none.
Perhaps if you think none of them are capable why not a Jehovah witness campaign/contest. For you sitting on the fence and forsaking your community and country is a better choice

Perhaps don’t personalize the question, I was asking why Jehovah witness don’t participate in election but it seem you’re talking just about yourself

So even though someone proved logically that he knows exactly what he's doing you will not respect his or her views simply because he chose to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

The only reason i started questioning the Bible is the first time i heard the word "CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS" I knew through reading the Bible that Jesus discouraged his disciples from being active in paramilitary services so i kept wondering how a group could call themselves CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS.
Are they only Christians?
If so what are they fighting for?
Will they also carry weapons and aim at people?
What will Jesus say about them if he's here?

OK nah!

FxMasterz:
I never read him saying that on this thread. What are you whining about?
Your obsession with Courz is on another level. What has he done to you?
My dear, this thread is going to be a great resource for all and sundry who are researching the JW organization before joining the cult. Also for those who want to leave but want to first see if there's any confirmation for their misgivings.

They'll find that:

1. The allegations of Bible manipulation were proven beyond reasonable doubt.

2. They'll find that the JWs, in an attempt to defend the cult were telling lies which got exposed on the thread.

3. They'll find that the JWs are fond of quoting and misinterpreting scriptures to suit their positions. They'll also see how the JWs were thrashed by those who corrected the falsehoods by presenting the scriptures correctly.

4. They'll find that even the founding fathers of the JW agreed that there's no religion that forces falsehood on its adherents on the pain of death except the JW.

5. They'll find out about the hypocrisy of the JW who secretly invest in weapons of mass destruction for profits while hypocritically telling their members that national defence is not good.

6. They'll find out that the member here are boastful, arrogant and Satanic. Of particular interest to them would be one Maxindhouse who boasts a lot about himself but was found to be double faced and double mouthed with overwhelming evidence.

7. They'll find out that the organization thrives on lies and that the members are in demonic captivity which is confirmed by their unwillingness to verify the message of the cult to unravel the truth about their position.

8. They'll find out that the so called JW are actually Satan's witnesses especially when they see them flowing freely with such words as Stupid, mumu, dense, dunce, etc. They'll see the true colours of the JW.

9. They'll see the evidences that the JW hate people and that they only pretend to be loving and peaceful when they see Maxindhouse wishing Achorladey bad and calling him mad for rejecting his lies and falsehoods.

10. They'll see tons of evidences that shows that the JW organization holds the words of their GBs in higher esteem than the Bible to the extent that they'll reject plain biblical writings in favour of words spoken by their leaders - further confirming that the organization is anti-God.

11. They'll find out that they never repent of the evils they do even when brought face to face with evidences of their earrings such as in the case of Maxindhouse giving reasons to justify calling someone mad and insane.

12. Let me stop here.


The purpose of this thread has been fulfilled beyond imagination.

LordReed:
The Bible is a mix of truth, half-truth and outright fabribrication.

This is all i need from you!

epfa:
Jesus said we are to be no part of the world, but he also acknowledged that we cannot get out of the world; which is why he asked his father to look over us because we are still in the world.

I read the Bible at home with my children. My husband is still associated with the local congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, but he is not a regular attender. He and our children are told that they are allowed to go, but my "privilege of attending" has been revoked, since I refuse to recant of keeping integrity to God and Christ.

So you don't join others in worship as the Bible admonished believers {Hebrews 10:24-25} but your husband and children still attend meetings with worshipers of Satan:

epfa:
The Governing Body of Watchtower are not witnesses of Jehovah. Jehovah is the God of truth. The Governing Body are liars. When they claim to represent truth, they lie just like their father the Devil.

Hmmmmmmmmmm that's really strange!

epfa:
The Governing Body of Watchtower are not witnesses of Jehovah.

Jehovah is the God of truth. The Governing Body are liars. When they claim to represent truth, they lie just like their father the Devil.

The Watchtower hierarchy is based on appointments from the Governing Body and other Watchtower leaders. It's not based on appointments from God.

Here is some court paperwork received by the NYSCEF on May 29th, 2024. You can read it for yourself. The Governing Body are not authorized by God to lord it over the congregations.

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=VTvrsg1JblwC6FWv4Cokvg==

Here is some summary and some excerpts from some of the documents:

Case includes Defendant GB of JW moving to dismiss Plaintiff's Complaint on grounds GB isn't a legal entity.

On 11/17/2023, that motion was denied and here are some of the quotes from that dismissal...

"Jehovah's Witnesses publications and organizational charts clearly show the concrete nature of the GB as its own entity...as a body of elders entrusted with spiritual oversight of Jehovah's Christian witnesses."

"...men comprising Defendant GB set JWs organization policy in all relevant matters and control who is allowed to undertake leadership roles within the JWs organization."

"...the GB established the sexual abuse policies implemented by WT...the policies for appointing and supervising elders and ministerial servants within the JWs organization; participated in the appointment of elders and ministerial servants; and exercised supervision and control over elders and ministerial servants."

"'the First Amendment does not grant religious organizations absolute immunity from tort liability' Negligent conduct of a religious body is subject to secular scrutiny."

"The Governing Body is Subject to Suit as An Unincorporated Association."

"The GB is a recognized group of defined individuals allege to be responsible for directing and controlling other entities as well as human individuals, and it meets the standard for an 'unincorporated association' under NY law absent any further evidence of corporate existence."

"The Allegations Pertaining to the Negligence Claims Are Sufficiently Pled"

"...the GB had knowledge - both actual and constructive - of its elders' and ministerial servants...propensities to sexually abuse minors and, did nothing to prevent or stop such abuse."

"...the GB...was responsible for placing [abuser] in a position of power and control over vulnerable minors..."

The case was at the pleading stage in November 2023.
The GB sought motion to dismiss.
The motion was denied.


The GB make it clear they are not really "shepherds of the flock of God." They're cowards and thieves. Jesus said to stay away from such men.

OK thanks for IDENTIFYING the servants of the devil now can you also present the servants of God today?

Janosky:
Cc:
All the WAILING WAILERS & IBERIBEISTS -Courz Oteneaaron, Emusan, FX Masterz, Achorladey, John W, StayingAlive.
Come & Gather here shepaly,una food don over done.

They will never come here!

FxMasterz:
How?
You proved to me by turning the Bible upside down and getting exposed. By lying and calling me mumu. By trying to misrepresent the Bible to establish your false point.
Kudos to you. The prover.

At least Courz who raised this topic said the name JEHOVAH belongs to demons yet your KJV says otherwise so all your effort on this thread against the NWT has proved to be futile!

FxMasterz:
So, if atheists join me to condemn the evil you do, I have bastardized Christianity? I address atheists on atheist threads. I address cults on threads related to cults like this one related to the JW cult. Stop whining unnecessarily.

At least we have taken our stand as members of the organization whether you call it a cult or not so help your friends to appreciate the name of your God if you're still of the opinion that JEHOVAH is the name of your God!

Maynman:
Thats the madness the Jehovah witness are doing, any sane human will confirm instead of defending blindly

They are earning ALOT from arms/weapons INVESTMENTS compare to the cost of production of pamphlets 😂

Those are lies but since you're not ready to use your reasoning you can keep it to yourself.

One thing is sure:

No normal human will INVEST and at the same time jeopardize his own investment!

FxMasterz:
So, if someone is bastardizing his own church, it means I have bastardized Christianity?

You have BASTARDIZED it by hiding your church and sharing the same line of thought with people like LordReed (Atheist) oteneaaron/Courz (Freethinker) yet you're not thinking of how to save them.
That's what a true Christian will never do so you have BASTARDIZED the name Christians if you're siding such people! Psalms 1:1

Janosky:
Sifia pains of FX WAILER
The same thing said by your fellow Trinitarians in the screenshots.
You guys "bastardized Christianity"

When i talk the thing dey pain Emusan as if he should kill me but it's the truth that's been confirmed even in their midst.

Just tell any of them to mention the name of their church and see them wailing and crying.

WHY?

Because the name CHRISTIANS they have BASTARDIZED and brought a CURSE on it so they just hide behind the name without showing their faces.

We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES the one and only true CHRISTIAN ORGANIZATION in the world!

achorladey:
And your madness and insanities peddling brains wants to use it as means to deflect and divert the fact that your madness and insanities peddling brains is filled with lies even against the very religious organization you belong

Guy abeg let him respond if what is written in the Bible is truth or lies then what are those people defending such a book?

achorladey:
And your religious organization kept knocking on doors of those who told you several times you are not welcomed

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

All members of Jehovah's Witnesses can read and write so just a little writing on your gate stating that JWs preaching aren't welcomed in your house has saved us all that stress and we will never ever knock such a gate but even though you mount structures that could scare others away we will knock on that gate because Jesus is with us! Matthew 28:20

FxMasterz:
The guy is controlled by demons. He says anything they ask his to say at all times without thinking.

At least i have proved to you that you're not a disciple of the Bible Jesus!

achorladey:
The same atheists you said won't respond meaningfully to your religious organization is the same person you seek answers from now after you denigrate him
Madness ans insanities peddling brains of yours in full view

He wants to talk so let him contribute by telling us if the Bible is a lie or truth!

Maynman:
That’s the hypocrisy.

That's not hypocrisy but madness!

No sane human will INVEST his hard earned money and at the same time jeopardizing the investment!

FxMasterz:
This actually proves to you that your cult organization is not of God since that's exactly what you do! Being a liar further confirms it.

OK nah!

FxMasterz:
I think lordreed himself would need to see the bolded and tell us whether you're lying or speaking the truth. But from your known antecedents as a LIAR, I know that the bolded is another lie.

OK nah!

Janosky:
So what?
How does that confer ownership of investment as claimed by the WAILING WAILERS?

Do you know what pained LordReed most?

I once told him that during investigation that's not official an agent of the intelligence will never ever say to you:

"You lied" or "You are lying"

It's when the discussion get to a point that you will find yourself hooked up in your own words that's when you will say "i'm sorry, i lied"
So when i engaged him he was so frustrated that he began swallowing his own words that's why he turned the game over and started calling me a liar just to piss me off but i never allowed that to change the subject after all he's just an atheist and there is nothing to prove that lying is a crime unless he wants to turn to the Bible which of course he hates with passion!

Emusan:
See ignorance!
Was the point about Jws owns TRUST or Jws have SHARES IN TRUST?

Will you be comfortable with such a shareholder?

achorladey:
Wants to deflect and divert after being cornered about the lies and manipulations of his madness and insanities peddling brains

Let him answer nah at least all the inspired writers of the Bible are either LIARS or SINCERE so please let him respond!

FxMasterz:
The English man has said empty barrels make the most horrible noise. When you hear someone boasting that 'I am this and that's like Maxindhouse does, just that that the individual is stinking sepulchre.

Thanks for the compliment!

At least i've proved to you that you're not one of the disciples of Bible Jesus he told his own disciples to walk away from anyone who will not welcome their message and move to those who are willing to hear them out!

LordReed:
I'll call out lies and misinformation anywhere I see it. You can ask other non-believers I have called out too, it has nothing to do with being a believer in Yahweh/Jehovah/Allah.

A question for you Sir!


Everything found written in the Bible is it truth or lies?

Answer that before calling a believer liar for preaching what is found written in the book!