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MaxInDHouse:
No need trading words with unbelievers the OP started this thread on September 2023 and stopped commenting a month later shows he's satisfied with the points JWs presented so now he knows that it's not about what we were told to do or not to do regarding marriage but our conviction regarding marrying people who feels we are deluded due to our faith for trusting and living our lives in harmony with what is found written in a book.
It's foolishness leaving people who feels you're sound in mind only to marry someone who feels you're deluded from families and friends who also share the same opinion about you!

FxMasterz:
We would keep warning muslims, atheists, JWs, idol worshippers, withes, cultists and all sinners everywhere under the sun who reject the good news of salvation. If they like they should keeps saying we are liars. The end will tell, but it would never be said of them that they didn't have the opportunity to hear the gospel.

Reflect7:
You are WRONG.
Our ancestors were not stupid.
They never said that the gods came from heaven, which they called the ‘land of the ancestors’
They said the gods came “from the sky”.
Big difference.

AbuTwins:
No wahala but how is Luke 7:34 related to anything?
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’

AbuTwins:
According to historical and scholarly research, James, the brother of Jesus, did not believe in Jesus as God in a literal sense. Instead, James is understood to have believed in Jesus as the Davidic Messiah, a significant figure in Jewish prophecy and tradition.

James' belief in Jesus as the Davidic Messiah meant that he saw Jesus as the promised deliverer or anointed one (Messiah) prophesied in the Hebrew Bible. This belief was rooted in Jewish expectations of a messianic figure who would restore the kingdom of David and fulfill God's promises to the Jewish people.

While James held Jesus in high regard and believed in his messianic role, there is no historical evidence to indicate that James viewed Jesus as a divine being or as God incarnate. James' focus was more on Jesus' role as the Messiah within the Jewish context rather than on his divinity.

In contrast to later Christian beliefs that developed around the divinity of Jesus, James' understanding of Jesus was likely more in line with Jewish messianic expectations of his time. This distinction highlights the diversity of beliefs and interpretations within the early Christian community, with James representing a perspective that emphasized Jesus' messianic identity rather than his divine nature.

According to modern research, James the brother of Jesus was indeed recognized as a prominent figure in the early Christian community. He was the first leader of the Jerusalem Church and played a significant role in the development of early Christianity. It is believed that James was elected by the chief apostles of Jesus, including Peter, John, and Philip, to be the head of the church in Jerusalem.

James was known for his devout observance of Jewish law and his attachment to the temple in Jerusalem. He was regarded as a rigorous and observant Jew who followed the law. This is in contrast to Paul, who taught in Ephesians 2:15 that the law had been abolished. James' adherence to Jewish customs and practices made him influential among the Jewish community.

While James believed in Jesus as the Davidic Messiah, it is important to note that he was also considered a Christian. He played a crucial role in shaping the early Christian movement and was recognized as a leader among the disciples of Jesus.

Regarding the earliest faith of the disciples of Jesus, it is believed that their faith initially centered around Jesus as the Messiah and the fulfillment of Jewish prophecies. Over time, as the early Christian community grew and developed, their understanding of Jesus' teachings and his role expanded.

Please note that the information provided is based on historical research and scholarly interpretations.

{Eusebius (Born 260 AD)}

AbuTwins:
You should show us where it was approved since you brought it up?

AbuTwins:
We need you to tell us?

AbuTwins:
We should always ask you why the Israelites were asked to kill themselves when they err in your Bible!

AbuTwins:
You are right!
You Jehovah has Jesus an Angel as Son!
Our own God Allah need no son to help Him in His dominion as He is omniscient and Omnipotent!

AbuTwins:
He is sent only to Israel. Israel is his world! It was during his time people were divided into Gentiles and Israelites!
Adam is a man and not an Angel!
And it is not fair to carry over Adam's sin to his son!
What Paul the self appointed disciple gave you in Romans and all his letters are falsehood!

AbuTwins:
Where is the verse for that? Which did Allah approve?

There is no supreme ruler! Allah is the ruler of all mankind!


Your premise that Allah is only the Muslim's supreme ruler is false!

AbuTwins:
Didn't you admit that there fight was politically motivated? You are a hypocrite!

AbuTwins:
Wasn't he sent only to Israel?

AbuTwins:
And what sort of father kills his son for others to be saved?

AbuTwins:
You are always spilling falsehood!
Allah says: “And whoever kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell to abide therein; and the Wrath and the Curse of Allah are upon him, and a great punishment is prepared for him” [al-Nisa 493]

And you claim you were a Muslim before?
Olentelaafa!

AbuTwins:
Where did Jesus make your last claim while he was alive and walking around? He rather wait till John sees a dream in revelation right?
When the rich ruler met Jesus, Jesus told him to obey the commandments and follow him!
Later you guys changed everything!

AbuTwins:
Adam wasn't inspired to talk about the naked features of Eve! How many of your kids have memorized the verses?

AbuTwins:
Showing appreciation is different from all these rants and obscene inspirations in the purported book of God!

AbuTwins:
Execution is not excommunication! And some if not most of those laws are only for Israelites!

AbuTwins:
Jesus didn't specifically state this. This is your own exegesis. Jesus should have told them this your exegesis himself. So it is clear Jesus never excommunicated anyone! So where did your Governing council get it from?

AbuTwins:
You should tell us why your Governing council forbid it before if it wasn't forbidden?

AbuTwins:
In the same Zephaniah 2:12:
“You Ethiopians will also be slaughtered by my sword,” says Jehovah.
Na Jehovah dey cause all the killings with His sword!
Jehovah is the killer!

AbuTwins:
What is written there is what Islam preaches!
Everyone will carry his/her own burden of good or bad!
Jesus will carry his own and you will carry your own!

Sprinklepee:
you mean say make we ask am which church he dey go? Lol

AbuTwins:
So wetin God need those verses for in the Bible?
How many of your Grand daughters has memorized those verses?
Not everyone did "Little sister with no breast" o!

Ohyoudidnt:
Examiner remembers to issue instructions after the exam sheets have been submitted. Quite unfortunate.

Yes there are verses similar to 2 Corinthians
7 or because of these surpassingly great revelations. Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me.

8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me.

9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness. (Quran doesn't have this though)


Why do Christians or the compilers of the Bible disobey Jesus?

Luke 8

49 While Jesus was still speaking, someone came from the house of Jairus, the synagogue leader. “Your daughter is dead,” he said. “Don’t bother the teacher anymore.”

50 Hearing this, Jesus said to Jairus, “Don’t be afraid; just believe, and she will be healed.”

51 When he arrived at the house of Jairus, he did not let anyone go in with him except Peter, John and James, and the child’s father and mother.

52 Meanwhile, all the people were wailing and mourning for her. “Stop wailing,” Jesus said. “She is not dead but asleep.”

53 They laughed at him, knowing that she was dead.

54 But he took her by the hand and said, “My child, get up!”

55 Her spirit returned, and at once she stood up. Then Jesus told them to give her something to eat.

56 Her parents were astonished, but he ordered them not to tell anyone what had happened.

Is this because they are persistently disobedient people?

Janosky:
Sifia pains of Achorladey.

Every religious group says they are the best.

But nah JW's own dey cause Achorladey sifia pains


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AbuTwins:
So you're God's partners in excommunication!
Show us where God's people were told to excommunicate one another!

AbuTwins:
Where did Jesus told you to excommunicate one another? Was the adulterous woman excommunicated?

AbuTwins:
Show us the laws your Governing council used? For example, trousers was strictly forbidden before but now partially forbidden!
Where are the laws?

Ohyoudidnt:
Have you ever heard or read? Doctors care God heals. When you recover from an ailment would you say so and so doctor healed me, this drug healed me or this pastor or Alfa healed me?
Q26:80
And He ˹alone˺ heals me when I am sick.
Q17:82
And We send down of the Quran that which is healing and mercy for the believers
Quran 16:68-69: “And your Lord inspired the bee, ‘Take for yourself among the mountains, houses, and among the trees and [in] that which they construct. Then eat from all the fruits and follow the ways of your Lord laid down [for you].’ There emerges from their bellies a drink, varying in colors, in which there is healing for people. Indeed, in that is a sign for a people who give thought.”
In these verses from Surah An-Nahl (The Bee), Allah describes how He inspired the bee to build its hives in various locations such as mountains, trees, and human habitations. The bees are instructed to gather nectar from different sources and produce honey. The honey produced by bees contains healing properties and serves as a beneficial substance for humans.
Are we still talking about the Kaaba?
Perhaps you can open your thread
You asked for Allah's explanation and I provide you with the words of Allah from the Quran. That is translation of the meaning

Sprinklepee:
American will accept islam but na bible you dey quote, why you nor quote from quran? Ment.

AbuTwins:
Song of songs!

Note that B* stands for the female Mammary organs!

1. The Prayer
Proverbs 5:18-19
18 May your fountain be blessed,
and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth.
19 A loving doe, a graceful deer—
may her b* satisfy you always,
may you ever be intoxicated with her love.

(Say Amen)

2. My Beloved
Song of Songs 1:13-14
13 My beloved is to me a sachet of myrrh
resting between my b*.
14 My beloved is to me a cluster of henna blossoms
from the vineyards of En Gedi.

3. Your B*
Song of Songs 4:5-6
5 Your b* are like two fawns,
like twin fawns of a gazelle
that browse among the lilies.
6 Until the day breaks
and the shadows flee,
I will go to the mountain of myrrh
and to the hill of incense.

4. More description
Song of Songs 7:7-8
7 Your stature is like that of the palm,
and your b* like clusters of fruit.
8 I said, “I will climb the palm tree;
I will take hold of its fruit.”
May your b* be like clusters of grapes on the vine,
the fragrance of your breath like apples,

5. Kiss of life
Song of Songs 8:1
8 If only you were to me like a brother,
who was nursed at my mother’s b*!
Then, if I found you outside,
I would kiss you,
and no one would despise me.

6. Little sister with no B*
Song of Songs 8:8-10
8 We have a little sister,
and her b* are not yet grown.
What shall we do for our sister
on the day she is spoken for?
9 If she is a wall,
we will build towers of silver on her.
If she is a door,
we will enclose her with panels of cedar.

7. B* like towers
Song of Songs 8:10
10 I am a wall,
and my b* are like towers.
Thus I have become in his eyes
like one bringing contentment.

capnies:
JESUS RESURRECTED WITH HIS PHYSICAL BODY.
WHERE WAS HIS PHYSICAL BODY WHICH DID NOT DECAY AFTER THE RESURRECTION.
JESUS HAS A BODY AND EVEN ATE AFTER RESURRECTION, LOOK FOR ANOTHER WAY TO EXPLAIN YOUR POINT.
EVEN ANGELS TOLD THE PEOPLE THAT SAW JESUS ASCEND THAT HE WILL COME BACK THE SAME WAY

Ohyoudidnt:
Q29:2-3: “Do the people think that they will be left to say ‘We believe’ without being put to the test? We have certainly tested those before them so that Allah will distinguish those who are truthful

Q30:41: “Corruption has appeared throughout the land and sea by [reason of] what the hands of people have earned so He may let them taste part of [the consequence of] what they have done that perhaps they will return [to righteousness]


Q2:155: “And We will surely test you with something of fear and hunger and a loss of wealth and lives and fruits, but give good tidings to the patient.

Q2:216: “But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not

In the challenges Joseph passed through before his exalted position was there cruelly and injustice?

Oh people perish due to lack of knowledge and indeed mankind knows nothing compared to God

Reflect7:
So why did he ‘rise up’ or ‘ascend’ to heaven?
Is that spiritual realm up in the sky?
‘Spiritual realm’ suggests a different DIMENSION or PLANE of existence, meaning that you cannot physically fly to such a place. It has no physical location! So how did ‘Jesus’ supposedly fly there in a physical body?