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Christianity Etc › Re: Terrifying Journey Of Hell. Real Life Testimony Of An Ex Gang Member by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:48am On May 08, 2024

CaptainJune:
Stop giving false interpretations to the Scriptures that are clear as day about the reality of eternal perdition. The Good News is the salvation made possible by the blood of Jesus shed on the cross for our sins and the hope of eternal life with Him in heaven.

So what did Jesus mean by saying:

Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Matthew 5:5 compare to Psalms 37:29

There's no Good News about heaven because nobody has ever lived there before it's here on earth that people lives and can relate with what is giving them problems so the GOOD NEWS is that all those problems will be removed by God's Kingdom when it's brought to the earth! Matthew 6:10

When true disciples of Christ comes to your homes you will be forming knowledgeable when you are completely empty.

Christianity Etc › Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:41am On May 08, 2024

Ohyoudidnt:
Still spinning an extensive and extraneous logic? Was the kingdom Solomon spoke of not on Earth? Does all sickness prevent being fruitful? So the belief in Jesus by your submission is not what can bring immediate benefit? Really now. What sort of delusion will this be? Is this some sort of psychotic delusion? Jehoshaphat and Hezekiah are remembered as kings who sought to govern with fairness, uphold moral values, and promote prosperity in their kingdoms during times of stability and growth. Both of them were seen as fair and just rulers during periods of prosperity and stability in the kingdom.

Have you heard of Paradise or Aljana?

Well that's where Jesus will rule globally under his rule will be the time when all those promises will be fulfilled.

No earthly king has ever fulfilled any of those promises even though they were good they can't cure sicknesses or raise the dead like the promised Messiah!

Christianity Etc › Re: Terrifying Journey Of Hell. Real Life Testimony Of An Ex Gang Member by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:41pm On May 07, 2024

FxMasterz:
Please my questions are just one. I only asked you to explain some verses of scripture in light of your doctrine. You break your answers into sections if you feel like writing epistles.

The dead would not miss anything. Hope you know that? A dead man misses nothing. The death punishment is really flawed. It has no scriptural basis.

The wages of sin is DEATH! Romans 6:23

If you have anything to ask point out the Bible verse and let's discuss on it!

Christianity Etc › Re: Terrifying Journey Of Hell. Real Life Testimony Of An Ex Gang Member by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:21pm On May 07, 2024

[quote author=FxMasterz post=129837349][/quote]If you don't appreciate life everlasting then you and i aren't on the same page.

Perhaps what you need to work on is:

What evildoers will miss when believers are in God's kingdom?

Your questions are many so pick them one by one so we can discuss on each not just mixing it all up and expecting me to start typing epistles when you only need to study the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses!

Christianity Etc › Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:14pm On May 07, 2024

@ Ohyoudidnt

Can we now compare what your Allah said about sickness, suffering and death of loved ones with what Jehovah said in the Bible?
If your Allah is TESTING it's worshipers with those things do you think any right thinking person will like to worship such a God that will start using evil things to test them?

When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone. James 1:13

That's my own God for you!

Christianity Etc › Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:06pm On May 07, 2024

Ohyoudidnt:
You are going to great lengths in proving a narrow view and wrong point? Do you now portray God as very cruel and harsh in action?
You mentioned Genesis 3:18 but forget 3:17
...through painful toil [b]you will eat food from it [/b]all the days of your life. Indeed if nothing was derived from it wouldn't there be injustice?
You mention sickness but share no exact scripture; why? Through earthly death isn't there a pathway back to eternal life?
The shorter lives men live compared to Adam could be mercy to not tarry at plowing the soil for food don't you think?
Don't the scripture in Ecclesiastes point at the consequences of selfish behaviour of some men? It baffles me that you generalise this.
I am a lot more confused. The Kingdom that the Psalms refer to are not yet in existence.
Psalms 72:16 speaks of the prosperity and rule of an ideal king, which in this context would be referring to Solomon or other righteous kings in Israel. The psalm is more about the ideal reign of a righteous king and his blessings on the people, rather than a specific prophecy or reference to Jesus.
Did Jesus rule the Israelites or this is something to come after many who believe in him would have already undergone discomfort and passed away?
Please let your logic make easier sense.
Thanks.

When God created Adam and Eve there was no room for sickness, suffering or death as they were told:

“Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth." Genesis 1:28

Believing in Jesus is not what adherents will get the benefits now because what God promised as benefit for believing in Jesus is EVERLASTING LIFE {John 3:16} those dead among his disciples will be raised back to life when Jesus begin his rule just as he called his friends out from the grave the same thing he will do when he begin ruling the difference is that by then they will no longer grow old, get sick nor die.

As for the kings in Israel there was none who could fit in the description we heard in those verses because the promises said that there will be no sickness {Isaiah 33:24} God will swallow up death {Isaiah 25:8} the earth will be free from evildoers {Psalms 37:9-11} in fact we will remember all their activities but none will be found throughout the earth! Psalms 37:10

Can you think of any king under whose reign the Israelites experienced such things?

Well in God's kingdom there will be no evil person so angels will be on guard everywhere to police the whole earth if humans can make CCTV camera to monitor evildoers what do you expect when God wants to establish righteousness throughout the earth?
In fact angels are everywhere today but they must not intervene in whatever humans are doing to themselves that's why ritualists, armed robbers, hired killers, fraudsters are walking freely after causing lots of pain for people but when God's Kingdom begins under the reign of Christ Jesus no one will be allowed to hurt another person! Isaiah 11:9

So sicknesses, suffering and death we are seeing today is due to Adamic sin inherited by all his descendants. When God removes Adamic sin nothing of such will be here again!

Christianity Etc › Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:10pm On May 07, 2024

Ohyoudidnt:
Can you concisely link all this to sickness, suffering and injustice?

YES!
Sicknesses, Suffering and Injustice became the inheritance of Adam's descendants after the couple were thrown outside the Garden.
God cursed the ground because of Adam's sin and ever since then it has been hard for people to live that's why some are doing everything they can to protect what they have because they're scared of loosing it to those suffering around them. Sicknesses wasn't part of God's arrangement but after Adam left the garden nourishing foods stopped growing and what grows for mankind started to make us grow weaker and weaker {Genesis 3:18} that's why mankind's lifespan began decreasing until what we have today! Genesis 5:5 compare to Genesis 25:7-8
In the garden of Eden angels were there to kill anyone who tries to hurt obedient ones but outside the garden they must not interfere as Adam and Eve have chosen to be independent of God's rule that's why there is injustice here and there without God interfering as many innocent ones are partially treated due to no one to fight for them! Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9

All such thing can't be if Adam and Eve never told God to step aside from being their ruler!

Ohyoudidnt:
Also you refer to Psalm 72:16 and directly link this to Jesus the son of Mary? Explain how this is.

Jesus is the appointed king who will do all these things that's why during his campaign for God's Kingdom he multiplied five bread and two fish to feed thousands to showing all these things will work!

Christianity Etc › Re: Terrifying Journey Of Hell. Real Life Testimony Of An Ex Gang Member by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:48pm On May 07, 2024

FxMasterz:
Please don't distort the the Bible.
Victory over wars, sicknesses and other evils in the world is part of the package of salvation but not the complete package.
The Bible is not about what people have been hearing but what God has in plan for both the righteous and the wicked.
The Gospel is about the TRUTH and the Good News.
The Truth is that all wicked souls shall perish . That's the bad news. Another truth is that all wicked who come to Christ shall be saved. That's the Good News.
Jude 1:21-23 says:
"Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. And of some have compassion, making a difference: And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh."
By telling the people the dangers of their sinful ways and telling them the Good News of Christ's salvation, we pull them out of the fire. What fire do you think this scripture above was talking about?
Please humble yourself before the Word of God, and stop spreading heresies. Teach the complete Word of God. Not half truths.

The only punishment God said evildoers will get is DEATH because He has nothing in mind for or against evildoers so at death they have paid fully for their sins {Romans 6:7} the wages of sin is DEATH! Romans 6:23

My own God has no plans for evildoers when they die they've been forgotten forever in their graves! Psalms 9:17

But since you're so much engulfed in this your HELLFIRE DOCTRINES you can continue preaching it to anyone who wish to listen we have what we call the GOOD NEWS of God's kingdom!

Christianity Etc › Re: Terrifying Journey Of Hell. Real Life Testimony Of An Ex Gang Member by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:22pm On May 07, 2024

FxMasterz:
My friend, whether they heard it or not, judgement already awaited the wicked. This their consciences know quite well.

Nobody believes there is anything called Hellfire before we had the Bible so that can't be the bad news they've been hearing.

Next time you see Jehovah's Witnesses please humble yourself and learn what people has been hearing for thousands of years as BAD NEWS and what the Bible brought as GOOD NEWS.

For the benefit of other followers of this thread i will hint you.

For thousands of years we've been hearing of WARS and indiscriminate killings of innocent souls due to politics and racism but according to God's word He the true God is about to make WARS cease throughout the earth! Psalms 46:9

For thousands of years people has been suffering due to hardship and many are dying out of hunger and malnutrition but according to God's word there is going to be abundant of food throughout the earth for everyone! Psalms 72:16

For thousands of years death has been killing both old, young and babies but according to God's word He will swallow up death forever! Isaiah 25:8

For thousands of years mankind has been worried over what keeps making us to grow old and ugly but according to God's word our flesh will start growing young as ever and we will forever remain as youths! Job 33:25; Psalms 37:29

For thousands of years there has been wicked people making life unbearable for their fellow humans but according to God's word all such evildoers will be cut off from existence! Psalms 37:9-11

For thousands of years sicknesses of different kinds has been ravaging mankind but according to God's word a time is coming when no one will say "i am sick" Isaiah 33:24

For thousands of years wild animals has been killing people and disturbing our domestic pets but according to God's word all animals will be domesticated and all will eat straws! Isaiah 11:7; 65:25

For thousands of years there has been blind , lame, cripple and paralyzed people among us but according to God's word all such people will be cured! Isaiah 35:6

All these are the things Jesus took throughout the land of Israel with his disciples that's why they were performing the signs to strengthen the faith of Jews that Jesus is going to be crowned as our king and when kingdom begins all these blessings will be for mankind that's why he told us to continue praying for God's Kingdom (under which he himself will rule) to come! Matthew 6:10

These is the real GOSPEL (GOOD NEWS) not fairytales of how people will be tormented in some Hellfire! undecided

Christianity Etc › Re: Terrifying Journey Of Hell. Real Life Testimony Of An Ex Gang Member by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:55pm On May 07, 2024

FxMasterz:
I have told you the bad news as written in the scriptures in Psalm 9:17.

Is this the bad news people has been hearing before you took the Bible to them? cheesy

Christianity Etc › Re: Terrifying Journey Of Hell. Real Life Testimony Of An Ex Gang Member by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:51pm On May 07, 2024

Aemmyjah:
OP is an envious, shameless person
Calling someone mad and another fornicator

He thought only JWs are ready to debate about what they believe now he's facing others let him call them cults and Freemasons for not agreeing with him! cheesy

Christianity Etc › Re: Terrifying Journey Of Hell. Real Life Testimony Of An Ex Gang Member by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:50pm On May 07, 2024

FxMasterz:
My friend, the news they're hearing before are bad. The Bible talks about the bad and the good. There can be no good in the absence of bad.

So my dear friend what are the bad news that people has been hearing compared to the good news you brought?

Christianity Etc › Re: Noah : Similarities With Ancient Near Eastern Mythology by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:48pm On May 07, 2024

Lucifyre:
😀
Simple question, simple answer, already babbling. U answering the question or nah? Quite simple really, no unecessary analogies.

Guy if you read books you should know how many days at least you have many stories so pick whatever they told you the point is you can't dispute the fact that all races agreed that there was a global deluge!

Christianity Etc › Re: Terrifying Journey Of Hell. Real Life Testimony Of An Ex Gang Member by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:15pm On May 07, 2024

capnies:
PLEASE CORRECT HIM WITH LOVE OUR PASTORS HAVE BRAINWASHED THEM,.
I THINK ITS PURE HALLUCINATIONS.
SOMETIMES I WONDER HOW PEOPLE THINK THAT OUR GOD(WHO IS LOVE PERSONIFIED) COULD TAKE THE BEST OF HIS CREATION ON EARTH AND PUT IN A FIRE TO BORN FOR ALL ETERNITY.
I SEE IT AS INSULT ON GOD SPREAD BY THE DEVIL TO DISHONOUR OUR CREATOR.

The OP has his Target: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

That's the group he wants to tackle all these ones just entered one chance unknowingly.

The GOOD NEWS is about God's purpose for obedient mankind and how we will enjoy forever in Paradise on this same planet! Psalms 37:9-11, 29

Christianity Etc › Re: Noah : Similarities With Ancient Near Eastern Mythology by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:10pm On May 07, 2024

Lucifyre:
You don't say. How long did the rains fall for?

If you're a policeman sent to investigate a case will you just rap it up as lies after hearing different stories from people?
Real investigators continue their job until they get to the root which is the person who can give you all the details.
So if you want to know all the details about the global deluge go and find a copy of the Bible!

Christianity Etc › Re: Terrifying Journey Of Hell. Real Life Testimony Of An Ex Gang Member by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:29pm On May 07, 2024

FxMasterz:
If that's what Satan has told you in order to make you happy and seal you away from obvious reality, then I pity your soul.

There's bad news for the whole world. The bad news is that:

Psalm 9:17
"The wicked shall be turned into hell, And all the nations that forget God."

Unfortunately, everyone is wicked by virtue of the adamic nature.

So,
John 3:18
"Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son."

There can never be Good News if there's no preexisting bad news. It is when a better condition appears after suffering as a result of a previous bad condition that we talk of Good News.

The bad condition is that everyone is condemned to hell because of wickedness. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

The Good News is that whoever believes in Christ Jesus is not condemned. He is removed from condemnation to justification.

John 5:24
"Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life."

That's the Good News. That's the Gospel.

Romans 5:1
"Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,"

First of all that verse at Psalms 9:17 refers to inactivity as in the grave, the word Hell was translated from the Hebrew word sheol and Greek Hades both means GRAVE.
The fabricated word is "Hellfire" it has no meaning going by Hebrew or Greek.

And you quoting the Bible means you're still referring to the same source of information then claiming people must accept both bad and good news from the same book.

Normally it supposed to be that the News they are hearing before are bad before you bring your book but if it's from the same book then your message is SCAM!

Christianity Etc › Re: Noah : Similarities With Ancient Near Eastern Mythology by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:21pm On May 07, 2024

Lucifyre:
Cool... So we just accept every story we are told as fact and proof like the Nigeria India 99 - 1 story, thats without even getting into the inefficacy of oral history. But then you say "inspired" by the creator. If this story was inspired by the creator, shouldn't it be free from contradictions?

The inspired writers never contradict themselves no Bible book goes against the fact that Noah built an ark and eight souls were saved. It's people who weren't inspired but whose ancestors heard something similar that are contradicting themselves.

Christianity Etc › Re: Terrifying Journey Of Hell. Real Life Testimony Of An Ex Gang Member by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:30pm On May 07, 2024

triplechoice:
No. You don't know what's a genuine NDE. You're trying to misinform the public about what you don't know. That's all.

NDE is not Christian doctrine. It's not in the Bible and so you can't claim you're a Christian and still preach it.
I know, because I was once a Christian like you.

The Bible teaches after death then judgement. Nothing like coming back to warn people. There's no one in the Bible that came back to warn anyone of heaven or hell after visiting it or meeting with Jesus.

You're not preaching Christianity but your own doctrine to drive fear into the minds of the gullible.

Christianity Etc › Re: Noah : Similarities With Ancient Near Eastern Mythology by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:02pm On May 07, 2024

Lucifyre:
So... more iterations of myths like the Noah story. How does myth qualify as objective fact?! I wonder. How does providing more myth prove a certain myth happened. And please get rid of the "history" in ur reply and leave just the folklore and myth cause i certainly see no historical valid sources of "the flood", talkless of scientific or archeological or geographical.

It's simple all their ancestors told them stories about a global deluge but since there was no proper documentation the only source we have today that has all the details is the Bible inspired by the Creator Himself! undecided

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Christianity Etc › Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:56pm On May 07, 2024

Ohyoudidnt:
MaxInDHouse is no longer in the house to respond? Or you cannot find the verse specifically saying suffering, sickness and death came through Adamic sin.

Please i'm really sorry for this.
I never saw your response that's why i couldn't reach out to you for further response.

Here are the verses!

That is why, just as through one man (Adam) sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned. Romans 5:12

In the beginning God told Adam:

"But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die" Genesis 2:17

And to Adam he said: “Because you listened to your wife’s voice and ate from the tree concerning which I gave you this command, ‘You must not eat from it,’ CURSED is the ground on your account. In PAIN you will eat its produce all the days of your life. It will grow thorns and thistles for you, and you must eat the vegetation of the field. In the SWEAT of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.” Genesis 3:17-19

Can you please explain what God told Adam in those verses and what mankind is experiencing today if it's not the same?

Well this is God's promise for those who accept Jesus' counsel as they are forgiven:

There will be an abundance of grain on the earth; On the top of the mountains it will overflow. His fruit will flourish as in Lebʹa·non, And in the cities people will blossom like the vegetation of the earth. Psalms 72:16

And he will give the rain for the seed you sow in the ground, and the bread that the ground produces will be abundant and rich. In that day your livestock will graze in spacious pastures. Isaiah 30:23

So from my own personal understanding God withhold good things from mankind until our sins are blotted out through the ransom sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ!

Christianity Etc › Re: God Forbids Father Sacrificing Their Son To Gods by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:33pm On May 07, 2024

Sacrifices are made by volunteers not imposed!
So Jesus offered himself what his father did was to release His son to take up the role whereas it was thrown to all the angels in heaven:

Then I heard the voice of Jehovah saying: “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” And I said: “Here I am! Send me!” Isaiah 6:8

The above actually happened in heaven when all the angels (loyal spirit sons of God) heard what is involved to redeem mankind then the one who responded happens to be God's only begotten Son {Luke 4:16-21} the woman that was mentioned at Genesis 3:15 isn't Eve but the organization of loyal spirit sons of God in heaven, one of them must VOLUNTEER to come and lay down his life as a perfect human so that his sinless body and blood will wipe away mankind's sin {Revelations 12:1-2} none of the angels was willing except the only person who was with God during creation {Proverbs 8:22-30} he was willing to do this because mankind was the part he love most out of all the things God used him to create! Proverbs 8:31 compare to Colossians 1:15-16

That's why God swore in His anger that whoever rejects Jesus will never see His face of approval! Deuteronomy 18:18-19

So JEHOVAH God didn't sacrifice His son rather it was Jesus who volunteered to offer himself as the perfect human being whose blood will redeem mankind that's why he could say:

"This is why the Father loves me, because I surrender my life, so that I may receive it again" John 10:17

As the only begotten Son of God he was elevated to a lofty position so that at the name he bear (with that body which he used for the sacrifice) every knee must bow! Philippians 2:8-11

Christianity Etc › Re: Terrifying Journey Of Hell. Real Life Testimony Of An Ex Gang Member by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:06pm On May 07, 2024

FxMasterz:
The salvation from hellfire is the Good News. There's no other news 'gooder' than that.

So people have heard the BAD NEWS about your Hellfire before your religion or it's your religion that brought the two together?

Well it's good to know that you don't know what you're saying because there can only be Good News after people are tired of Bad News but if your religion is the same bearer of both News then it's a scam! wink

Christianity Etc › Re: James The Brother Of Jesus Never Believed Jesus To Be God by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:27pm On May 07, 2024

AbuTwins:

Even if i am a baby, didn't your Jesus say heaven is for children in Matthew 19:14? lol!

Babies in the faith not people without faith.
You're not even a faithful person because you only stick to what those Arabs told you without making investigations. Faithful people makes thorough research to be sure they're in the faith. There has never been a time when people as many as billions are faithful so if you are a Muslim today and you can't figure out the group that's practicing what your faith really teaches it simply means you're faithless!

AbuTwins:
So i must first believe in your teachings from the governing council before you tell me about Angel Jesus?

You must first believe in peace among believers as the goal of pure worship otherwise there's no need telling you sacred secrets! Matthew 7:6

AbuTwins:
Reincarnation is disbelief in Islam. Once you die there is no coming back! Elijah and John the Baptist are both Prophets in Islam. They are not the same person!

This is not reincarnation that's why you need to stick to your Allah if you're not ready to be teachable.

AbuTwins:
There's no secret in Islam o!
Everything is open!

John 16:25
"Though I have been speaking figuratively (paroimia), a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about my Father.

Why wasn't Jesus speaking in a normal and clear way all the time? Why did Jesus then go and say that he won't 'use this kind of language' according to the Bible?

Well, here we find out why...

Mark 4:10-12
When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. 11He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables 12so that," 'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'

So here we see that Jesus was deceiving certain people by speaking in parables so that they won't (and God forbid!) REPENT AND BE FORGIVEN!

There is no secret yet you can't figure out why your Allah can't use it's words to unite adherents in peace other than bowing towards the black stone in Mecca. Of course something is hidden from you! wink

Christianity Etc › Re: Terrifying Journey Of Hell. Real Life Testimony Of An Ex Gang Member by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:39am On May 07, 2024

triplechoice:
Then why are you ignoring the ones which doesn't support your heaven and hell narrative?

Like this one below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6DKsqTs9M8?si=LLGWJFLDe62Ua5pF

Christianity Etc › Re: Which Bible Verse Proves That The Spirit Is God Omniscient? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:36am On May 07, 2024

AbuTwins:
We should ask you if both countries uses the Shariah of Islam to rule their countries first!

So Iraq and Iran aren't Muslim nations anymore? cheesy

AbuTwins:
Allah does not just mean "God" in Islam! Why use it when Allah is not your own form of God?

Guy Allah is not a name but title "GOD" so don't raise another topic otherwise you have to explain why the call to Salat was only translated as "God" each time Allah is mentioned!

AbuTwins:
Apart from Israelites who else did Jehovah command to kill others? Is that not what Israel is doing today and quoting the same Amalekite verses? God of Israel!

The true God had no business with other nations so whatever they're doing has nothing to do with Him. Today the geographical location called Israel has nothing to do with the God of Abraham again since the nation as a whole is no longer there.
The nation God promised has twelve tribes but by the time Jesus walked the earth only two remained in Judea and after Jesus the nation was destroyed along with its temple and escapees ran far off from that place.

So if anyone is claiming Israel in that place today they are liars because the God of Abraham has no business with them after they rejected the Messiah!

Christianity Etc › Re: Personal Responsibility For Sins In The Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:25am On May 07, 2024

AbuTwins:
Do you want to lie you didn't quote Luke 7:34 earlier before changing it to verse 35?
Baba don join lie to the mantra!

Holding on to straws! cheesy

I never quoted the verse rather i cited it.

If you're truly inquisitive about knowledge you will read the verses before and after what is cited but since you're just a gullible Muhammedan you only read the cited verse

Christianity Etc › Re: James The Brother Of Jesus Never Believed Jesus To Be God by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:21am On May 07, 2024

AbuTwins:
This a deep false heretical secret!
The first creation of Allah is Adam! Any Muslim who goes against that fact has committed disbelief.
Adam, the father of mankind was the first man Allah created.
You were a nonchalant Muslim back then as i have been saying repeatedly! A Muslim who relies on heretical beliefs not founded upon sound Islamic knowledge!
We recognize Angel Gabriel as the greatest of the Angels as he is the Angel of revelation!
We also recognize Angel Michael and others!
But Jesus is not an Angel!
Your comparison is faulty and illogical!
Adam is the first created human not Muhammad!

Now i know you're just a baby in Islam!

But that's aside whatever we say about Jesus in our gathering has nothing to do with you since you can't see any of us come to preach that to you unless someone who has started believing in our teaching.

Our teacher (Jesus Christ) once said that John the baptist is the Elijah foretold to come {Matthew 11:13-14; 17:10-13} but John himself said he is not Elijah! John 1:21

So who do you think is right between John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth?

Well i'll leave that for another time but take it or leave it sacred secrets are meant to be only within believers that's why we don't go about telling people secrets that's meant to be kept within!

Christianity Etc › Re: Personal Responsibility For Sins In The Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:21am On May 07, 2024

AbuTwins:
It's the same God with extra baggage!

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaa that's what those Arabs want you to think!

Christianity Etc › Re: Which Bible Verse Proves That The Spirit Is God Omniscient? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:20am On May 07, 2024

AbuTwins:
Stop this folly! The war was as a result of territorial and political disagreements between two sovereign nations! I don't even think an hypocrite can understand. Your governing council must release a communique for you to believe it.

Are both sovereign nations worshipers of your Allah the supreme ruler?
Do they believe in your so called holy Quran?
If so why can't they use the word of your Allah to resolve their differences peacefully?

AbuTwins:
But when you translate the Bible to Arabic you still use the name "Allah" to deceive the gullible! If the name "Allah" doesn't exists why did Jw.org translate the Qur'an to Arabic and use the same "Allah" that does not exist for Jehovah? You are a hypocrite sir!

The word Allah simply means God so if your Allah failed to ensure peace among its worshipers then your Allah (god) doesn't exist.
That's what i'm saying!

AbuTwins:
Israel always have the right to kill others without blame. Apart from Israel who else did Jehovah ordered to kill others?
Jehovah of Israel!

Jehovah ordered Israelites to destroy enemies of pure worship not practicers of pure worship so if your Allah can't see reasons why its worshipers shouldn't fight against themselves then your Allah is unreasonable! undecided

Christianity Etc › Re: James The Brother Of Jesus Never Believed Jesus To Be God by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:13am On May 07, 2024

AbuTwins:
Of course you are a heretic.
Which of the disciples believed Jesus was an Angel like Jehovah witnesses believes?
In the Bible Elohim can be used for gods, human, Angel and God.
So your own claim that Jesus is an Angel is lesser than theirs that claim he is God!

Your problem is hypocrisy!

No one among JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES will tell you that Jesus is Archangel Michael until you're ready to study the Bible with us meaning it's a DEEP SECRET.
I remember back then as Muslim that the same happened in Islam when we were taught that Muhammed was the first creature Allah created but hid him until all other prophets has finished their mission then Muhammed will come to crown it all.
Of course it was a secret that Muslims don't discuss in public but only within scholars.

So Jesus being Archangel Michael is a secret not what we go about preaching publicly like the churches of Christendom does claiming people must believe that Jesus is God when he never taught so.

Christianity Etc › Re: Personal Responsibility For Sins In The Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:05am On May 07, 2024

AbuTwins:
So 34 was wrong it is now 35?
You and wrong Bible quotes sha!

Wrong book (Bible) wrong writers (prophets and disciples) wrong quote (verses) wrong application (practices) wrong religion (cult) everything seems wrong to you simply because your parents infused the religion of Arabs in your head yet the wrong book with all it's wrong writers, wrong quotes, wrong applications and wrong religion is producing the fruit expected of the right God to worship which is PEACE among adherents.

Therefore whatever you say about the religion that's producing the peaceful atmosphere in all the geographical locations where it's been practiced is futile because Wisdom has been justified by her children! Luke 7:34-35 wink

Christianity Etc › Re: Which Biblical Person Would You Like To Chat With, And Why? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:08am On May 07, 2024

Abel!
I will like him to describe how Adam and Eve looked like as youths and how those angels stationed themselves while the sword kept turning itself round and round preventing anyone from entering into the garden of Eden!

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