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OLAADEGBU:
If you represent the type of intelligent officers in our obodo country today then we no one is safe.

Westerhoffe:
MaxInDHouse
Finally he responds. Now let's delve back into the discussion.
Mark 12 (KJV)
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³⁰ And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
³¹ And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Deuteronomy 6 (KJV)
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⁴ Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
⁵ And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

“After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.”
— Matthew 6:9 (KJV)
Acts 2 (KJV)
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³⁴ For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
³⁵ Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
“(Psalm of David.) The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.”
— Psalms 110:1 (KJV)
Now tell me, do you see the perversion in your version of the Bible?

MaxInDHouse:
Churchians like you are just puffed up with no knowledge and instead of you to learn humbly you will be accusing real disciples of Christ.
Check your version of the Bible and read the preface to find out what was written in the Bible book of Deuteronomy 6:4-5

“Listen, O Israel: JEHOVAH our God is one JEHOVAH. You must love JEHOVAH your God with all your heart and all your soul and all your strength.
The name JEHOVAH or YAHWEH appeared three times in that passage but since Pharisees and Sadducees decided to stop using the divine name they replaced it with "Adonai" which means "Lord" that is why Jesus continue to lay emphasis on the use and mention of God's name:

“You must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your NAME be sanctified" Matthew 6:9

 “I have made your NAME manifest to the men whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word. John 17:6

So when Jesus quoted Moses's words at Deuteronomy 6:4 he mentioned God's name:

Jesus answered: “The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, JEHOVAH our God is one JEHOVAH, and you must love JEHOVAH your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind and with your whole strength.’ Mark 12:30-31

So my churchian guy go now and check the preface of your copy of the Bible instead of arguing blindly because Jesus mentioned and used God's name throughout his ministry by referring to God as father simply means that is the father of all creations!
Read Luke 3:23-38 Jesus is supposed to be the son of Joseph who is the son of Adam who is the son of God!


Who told you the Apostles don't used God's name in their ministry?
Oya check your Bible and see where Peter quoted David @ Act 2:34-35 compare to Psalms 110:1
There David sang saying:

"JEHOVAH said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZry54E0bWg?si=jVaSGSAeUS-iqu1x

But the translators of your own version chose to follow the tradition of Pharisees and Sadducees that's why they used Adonai (Lord) to replace God's name hence when you're reading that passage your won't know that someone was issuing orders for Jesus you will just conclude erroneously that the LORD who is the shepherd David meant @ Psalms 23:1 is Jesus instead of JEHOVAH.
So study your Bible personally by comparing what you find in the preface about the divine name with the passages.
Wherever you see the LORD all in capital letters it was God's name that was there originally that's why Psalms 110:1 will confuse most churchians like you because it's obvious that it's about two persons where the greater is giving orders to the lesser!

Westerhoffe:
MaxInDHouse

You got to come back to realize that:

Only those who do not know the One True Living GOD will make the comments you make about the name of GOD.

If you know who your dad is, and you stand before those who know him as well, you don't need to call him by his name before they know who you're talking about when you mention, "My Dad…"… they know who you're talking about already.

But when you stand before those who do not know your dad, even if you mention his full name, they still don't know him and may never know him until you go back to where he is, bring him before them to show him to them.

You asking me of the name of the One True Living LORD GOD ALMIGHTY shows you do not know Him.

Because if you know Him, you won't have asked again when you read One True Living LORD GOD ALMIGHTY.

MaxInDHouse, hallow the name of GOD the FATHER as JESUS CHRIST the Son taught us to… and stop calling His name anyhow without respect according to your erroneous and misleading version of the Bible.

Ken4Christ:
No point arguing with you. You have nothing to say.

askit:
There are Sango cult, Osun cult, Obatala cult, and the likes built around or formed by a specific deity or the other

askit:
All that's semantics, which I'm not interested in discussing. How will a person be called baba onifa without doing the rites of joining awo, which makes them a babalawo? There are laid down rules for such rites online on blogs and books on the subject about Yoruba culture and traditions
I use the term "Ifa devotees" /"Ifa priests" to refer to babalawos, and that usage has a key significance in this subject.
Ifa devotees or Ifa priests (who I call babalawos) are different from other people, for instance, students or researchers, who know Odu Ifa alittle or a bit more but don't belong to any awo (occult) and don't worship Ifa
Such people may even be a descendant of Ifa or Orunmila directly or indirectly but still they don't worship them
Don't mix things up. Even Ifa priests/devotees don't recognize such people as individuals (members) within their fold because such people are often quite objective about Odu Ifa, which the priests or devotees usually find offensive or disrespectful
Look at the individual talking about Ifa earlier, which I think the mod banned; such people are mere researchers, not in any awo. No Ifa devotees/priests will tell you that Odu Ifa has limits (only people into academia do such)
In fact, the priests hate hearing such, and they don't usually consider researchers of Odu Ifa as belonging to to their fold
Researchers don't know or observe their codes of conduct

Janosky:
JohnW confused werey.
Nah your fellow member post the screenshot
"The church is NOT a place of Perfection."
Oga receive SENSE.

banom:
Is there any difference between a christian believer who keeps living in sin and an unbeliever who commits the same sin. ?

MightySparrow:
Your Delusional Majesty.
Jehovah leads you to uncertainties in doctrine?

Please paste your new pictures with full grown beards.
What number are you and tribe in the 144,000?

askit:
The way you post lies all about is mind-boggling. All what you said here is only a figment of your imagination. It's totally different from the reality

Anyone following events in Nigeria and overseas knows adherents of ATR, including babalawos (often translated as Ifa priests), are a minority in Nigeria and have held little or no key political positions

Dey post your lies small small, no be kids dey dis forum

Ken4Christ:
Where did he cry from? From hell. You can't go to hell unless you are dead.

Who will be thrown into the ocean and survive for one hour talk more of there days?

Can you breathe under water. Maybe we should use you as an experiment. If you can stay under water for 30 minutes, I will give you 100k.

MightySparrow:
I accept the truth that you are special imperfect people.

Westerhoffe:
“For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever.”
— Micah 4:5 (KJV)
Where is the name here?
I know you don't know your Bible and I won't stop until you realize your mistakes.

epainos:
Most Babalawos are Senior Yahoos
Nice one. It is why I said Babalawos are the king of thieves.

Ken4Christ:
Jonah died.

MightySparrow:
Special imperfect people?

epainos:
All babalawos understand my post, na you no get am.

immortalcrown:
Before you mention Christians, doesn't the road obstruction negatively affect Muslims? Aren't there Muslims among the users of the road or do every Muslim pray at the same time?

johnw47:
lost false jw mad max

i have told you before more than once that God's Holy People/His Church/his ekklesia is called out people,
called out by God Himself, they are from many denominations and non denominational
they are saved by God's grace through faith

of course so called Jehovahs witnesses orginisation and roman catholics and latter day saints
and many others orgs. and sects think they are the true church,
they are of course blinded:

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

Westerhoffe:
Coming from a person whose religion came from a branch of Satanists!

How many times did JESUS CHRIST mention the name of the FATHER?
Why did JESUS CHRIST teach that the name of the FATHER must be hallowed?

You know you're the clown here!

Why are you afraid to admit that the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY I'm asking you of is the One True Living GOD if you're not a Satanist yourself?

Why always trying to twist the whole thing the way JWs always do?

You even sound ridiculous and very much unreasonable to bring Zeus, Krishna, and Jupiter into the sane conversation all because you're trying to prove an unreasonable point that does not exist.

You are becoming more and more unreasonable with all your diversions.
Why do you hate the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY?
Answer me!

Ken4Christ:
That was a miracle from God. Physical fire will of course burn your body but it cannot destroy the immortal soul. This is why souls that were dead could cry out even after they have been slain and buried;

Revelation 6:9-11.
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar THE SOULS of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And THEY CRIED with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

11 And WHITE ROBES were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Notice the passage above said that;

1. The souls of them that was slain cried out for vengeance. They were already dead and buried but their souls are still alive and they could cry.

2. They were even given White robes to put on. This is the spiritual clothing of the souls or spirit of saints who died. They still have all their shape and body parts intact. The only thing is that they can't make contact with the physical world.

So, erase those doctrines that teaches you that the dead are not conscious. They are even more conscious than you like it is clearly stated in the story of the Rich man and Lazarus.

Westerhoffe:
And ask yourself a reasonable question, did I ever propagate Jupiter?
Did I ever propagate Khrishna?
Did I ever propagate or talked to you about Zeus?
Why are you always talking like an unlearned little child?
Come on!
You need to grow up.

Westerhoffe:
MaxInDHouse



Stop deviating from the point for a bail-out.
I want to know why you are condemning the 'LORD GOD ALMIGHTY'.
Don't dodge it by that tactic of yours. I'm too used to seeing such.

You keep condemning the name of the LORD, despite He saying:

“And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.”
— Genesis 17:1 (KJV)

Answer the questions.

Who is the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY?

Why do you detest the name and Person of the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY?

Is He the LIVING GOD?
Is He among the gods?
Is He among the lords?
Is He an idol?
Is He a graven image?

I know you are refusing to answer because it will expose your ignorance again. But you must answer the simple questions with all sincerity if you truly claim to know GOD.

Ken4Christ:
What kind of question is this? Jump into the river and tell me if you will be alive after 30 minutes. Unless you are a very good swimmer.
Jonah jumped into a deep ocean. To make things worse, a fish swallowed him. And you are asking if he was dead?
Answer the question yourself.
Either way, your doctrine is exposed to be false.
If he wasn't dead, the experience he narrated couldn't have happened in the fish belly.
Please, don't be stubborn. You know you are propagating false teachings. Repent before you go to hell. You will feel very sorry for yourself.

epainos:
Building a deep true relationship is a sign of healthy worship. Babalawo will want to put themselves in the middle...and will never want to teach their clients how to meet their god. Lol...419 people. . Barawo people. And then scare the heck out of people. Thenafter, start demanding various things to rub their ego. They usually give eshu the head of livestock, but they will eat the fleshy parts. They will even do abracadabra pretending to ask ifa if they should share the meat with their households, or give it to another babalawo. But at the end of the day, most of them always say that the meat is for their households. imagine...dem give eshu the head wey meat no dey. That's what? Babalawos are "agba yahoo". ogundabede!!!

Ken4Christ:
But the experience he narrated couldn't have happened in the belly of the fish.
Read Jonah 2 very well!
Jonah 2:1-6
1 Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish's belly,
2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice. note note
3 For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me. note
4 Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight; yet I will look again toward thy holy temple.
5 The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head.
6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God
Lets assume the hell mentioned in verse 2 means grave. You said that the dead are unconscious. How come Jonah cried from the grave? How can a man who knows nothing cry?
In addition, he said that the weeds were wrapped around him. Are there weeds in the fish belly?
He talked about the earth and her bars was about him. Are there bars in the fish belly?
He said that he went to the bottom of the mountain. Are there mountain in the fish belly.
The dead are conscious. The soul of man lives on.