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immortalcrown:
You have a serious problem with simple English. How is my comment harsh on the guy? Which word is rude or harsh in my comment? The same you said my opinion is sentimental. The same you finds my response harsh.

Sentimental?
Harsh?
Please quote where i made such statement?

AntiChristian:
So you mean God's Holy spirit has changed from its killing ways of the past?
I remember Moses and the elders too received the holy spirit! And they later killed all the men and non-virgins among a tribe sparing only the virgins for themselves!
And in Judges 14, God was encouraging him to marry that Philistines girl.

All what you read before Jesus' coming has nothing to do with other nations because the barrier is there that you can't worship the God of Israel outside Israel.
It's after Jesus came that the barrier was removed so that anyone from any part of the planet can worship the God of Israel without having to be in Israel! John 4:20-24
So if anyone claims he is worshiping the same God today yet ignoring the commandments Jesus gave his disciples such a person is just deceiving himself because it's Jesus that bridge that gap between Israelites and none Israelites! John 1:11-12

BBIA:
ImmortalCrown has been asking question after question just to find something to hold on to so that he can validate his sentimental opinion.
The bible has never condemned alcohol.
it has on the other hand condemned it’s abuse. Even with that, he will still want to argue. Even at the last super, Jesus drank alcohol with the 12 Disciples.

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(N.B The term wine has always been associated with Alcohol. it was not until the late 19th and early 20th century that methods were developed to remove alcohol from wine were developed. so nobody should come quoting me asking if the bible said it was alcoholic wine.)

Thanks for this!

Most religionists often take alcoholic beverage as sin even though they drink it not because they understand the scriptures but due to the misconception that it's against God's word.
Jesus often drinks alcoholic beverages that's why the Pharisees who are like today pastors called him a drunkard {Luke 7:31-35} of course no matter the amount of alcoholic beverages Jesus drinks it can never ever affect him because he has a perfect human body that nothing can affect, Jesus often drink responsibly because whatever he does is what his IMPERFECT disciples will imitate so he must not mislead them.

Despite all these scripturally based points the Pharisees of today still wants people to believe that God's word is against alcoholic beverages! Matthew 15:7-9

immortalcrown:
May I understand why you quoted me and what you intend to explain about me.

Guy rest jọọ if you don't understand the OP he is not against anyone all he did was to quote God's word and call scholars to air their views backing it with the scriptures.
So all you need to do is present your own understanding not pestering him to tell you his own after quoting the scriptures.

AntiChristian:
The Spirit of the Lord can still enter someone today and that person will still kill others like Samson!

This is where wisdom comes in!

Before Jesus of Nazareth the will of God was to establish pure worship in the land of Israel until the Messiah comes.
So whatever happens God's Holy Spirit will be with anyone who is doing or working towards that goal that's why David was able to kill Goliath.
Samson was a judge in Israel born to lead the people as a chosen one that's why God's Holy Spirit continues to empower him in keeping the land safe and secured for pure worship.
But then Samson lost it by falling in love with a pagan something their God has warned them against:

You must not form any marriage alliances with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons. Deuteronomy 7:3

Imagine a JUDGE who was to lead God's people in doing what the law says going against it as if there are no beautiful women in Israel!

That's what caught Samson as a snare leading to his loss of power.

Today God's Holy Spirit only does one thing:

Help imperfect humans to practice what Jesus taught so no matter the signs or miracles they are performing if they're not able to practice what Jesus commanded his disciples know that it's not the spirit of God that's working with them. That's why Jesus could say they are workers of lawlessness (iniquity) Matthew 7:21-23

So if anyone raise a weapon against anyone as in anyone today to kill whether his friend or enemy such a person has no backing of God's Holy Spirit because God's only begotten Son orders all his disciples saying:

“But I say to you who are listening: Continue to love your enemies, to do good to those hating you, to bless those cursing you, to pray for those who are insulting you." Luke 6:27-28

Whoever fails to uphold the above has nothing to do with the spirit of God because all authority both in heaven and on earth has been given to the one who issued that order! Matthew 28:18

May you have PEACE!

BBIA:
what is your point?
tell us your own view of alcohol lets know.

When talking about perspectives regarding what the Bible teaches most people only follow the crowd, they don't have any specific stand. One of them is this person below:

MightySparrow:
Ask MaximumSide .
Janosky.

No matter the question you ask about the Bible as long as it has to do with teachings he will direct the audience to Jehovah's Witnesses. He expected people to object then he can follow the crowd but now that no one raised any objection regarding my post he will disappear as if he never existed.
So immortalcrown wants you to speak openly and tell the followers of your thread that alcoholic beverages is not a crime against what most so called pastors often tell their members whereas they can't support it with the scriptures!

Apologize:
Afternoon brother im miicchael from Eagle iislland cong in porthacourt. pls can i mssg you? via email if possible Mikewa662@gmail.com

Good afternoon!

Westerhoffe:
At least you admit your god is not the same as mine.
That's what you should have said all along.
And I'll advise you find the One True GOD of Heaven and Earth, the Creator of the whole universe, and creatures seen and unseen, the seas and all animals.
And also, escape for your life out of being a JW, you're missing a lot in there.

My advice for you is that you figure out the name of your God because the scriptures say:

"For all the peoples will walk, each in the name of its god, But we will walk in the name of JEHOVAH our God forever and ever. Micah 4:5

And added:

And everyone who calls on the name of JEHOVAH will be saved; For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be those who escape, just as JEHOVAH has said, The survivors whom JEHOVAH calls.” Joel 2:32

So if you don't know the name of the one and only true God i pity you that day!

BBIA:
someone just did.
Alcoholic isn’t evil, it has never been evil.
The abuse is what is.
Even every other thing when abused can be evil. for example we eat food to survive but becoming a glutton is a sin.

You're blessed Sir!

BBIA:
This is what the Bible says about alcohol.
Proverbs 31:6 KJV
”Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, And wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.”
KJV: King James Version
May the lord bless his words in our hearts.

Who is the person that is ready to perish? or who are those that be of heavy hearts?

In the Bible book of Deuteronomy 14:26 God's word said:

And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for WINE, or for STRONG DRINK, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,

The highlighted shows that God commanded His people to bring WINE and STRONG DRINK to his house and consume.

But why did God say such thing?

Well the human heart is always heavy with one thing or another it may be depression, anxiety, sorrow and many more which all can't be solved now until God's Kingdom comes so when anyone is having such feeling little ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE will make him or her feel life worths much more than the problems we are facing and by so doing take it easy with themselves.

No wonder Eli the highpriest thought Hannah was drunk {1Samuel 1:14} if it was prohibited among God's people she could have been dealt with seriously but rather Eli only told her to stop taking the drink!

So God's word made it clear to us that alcoholic beverages taken moderately is good for the heart of all living humans! Psalms 104:15

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Aemmyjah:
You're just deceiving yourself
Like he'll come and tell you how much it adds to his pocket shey?

When people are spiritually deaf what can you do other than to let them be? Isaiah 6:10 compare to Jeremiah 5:21

This OP has created 19 threads out of which 17 is about Jehovah's Witnesses organization.

Now let's analyze that!

In a world that's filled with tens of thousands of different religions claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines this OP can only see one religion out of all whose doctrines best interest him.

What is the spiritual interpretation of that?

He is indirectly telling everyone on this forum that only Jehovah's Witnesses has what it takes to cash his attention! Matthew 5:14-15

What happened to all the others?

Note that the OP himself doesn't subscribe to any of the rest all he's worried about is the JW organization perhaps they could adjust their doctrines for him to fit in!

No wonder Jesus said we are the light of the world!

Westerhoffe:
Childish comment.
Listen to yourself!
Despite reading and quoting me write LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, read what you're still saying.
This is how most of you blame teachers for failing you during exams, meanwhile you do not understand the questions asked even when you read.
And why did you ignore the rest of the exposition? 😁
Because you know it's true!!

Guy it's settled, your god differs from mine so go worship yours while i worship mine!

MightySparrow:
When a deluded person found a thing, I have enough sense not to follow him.

Good!
So since you believe we are deluded it simply means you're not worshiping our God:
God of delusion, right?

Emusan:
You be hen?

He only wants us to tell him that he is also a member of God's kingdom so just tell him:

"Hen"

At least that will calm him down a bit!

MightySparrow:
your founder

Are they also your founder?
Because if not then you and JWs aren't on the same page!

Emusan:
Confirmed!

Hen!

Emusan:
I belong to Christ.

Hen!

Westerhoffe:
If I'm to talk about my GOD, it's very clear He's sure very different from yours.

YES, mine has a name "JEHOVAH"
Yours is nameless!

Person who doesn't belong to any known religion nor doctrine is saying a doctrine is false!

Emusan:
Well it's evident that:
1. Jerusalem was not destroyed in 607BC
2. You presented two videos that doesn't support your claims and one of it happened to be from an exjws called apostate.
3. God never gave a SPECIFIC DATE the Jews left Babylon.
4. All historical and archeological evidence proved beyond doubt that Jerusalem was destroyed in 587BC
5. No Biblical support and scholarly works that support 607BC.
6. No where God says in the Bible that a day will automatically change to a year anytime Israelites sinned against Him.
7. Lastly, 1914 is a hoax and fraudulent date pulled up by Watchtower and accepted by hallgoer miscreants

It's our DOCTRINE not yours!

MightySparrow:
Nay, we see you as not part of the general assembly.
Hebrews 12:23
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
You belong to the same esoteric group with strange beliefs and practices different from the Commonwealth of Israel Ephesians 2:12

If you're not sick how can you say you see JWs as part of your assembly yet always criticizing us?

Well i've told you that without being a member of JWs you're doomed. It's none negotiable!

Westerhoffe:
And I tell you that if you just mention the name of GOD but you don't know him, He doesn't know you either.

Talk about your god not mine!

I'm not answering you if you don't belong to any faith!

Emusan:
Well the hallgoer miscreant hasn't addressed the points just dancing around to cover his shameless lying face.
Here they are again:
1. Why did you post a video from an exjws called apostate?
2. Why did you lied that you presented evidence when you only posted two videos which actually against your claims?
3. Where was it written in the scripture that God gave the Jews a specific date they will return from Babylon?
These are the issues.....Don't deviate I won't give you the room to do so.

Zaheertyler:
Guilty conscience and fear of hell

There are lots and lots of scriptural terms that all these churchians don't even understand.

For instance let's consider the word:

"REPENT"

It applies only to those that knows and agreed with the terms and conditions of a religion but aren't living by it due to reasons best known to them so in the first century John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth declaring it among the Jews were doing what is logical and sensible in fact Jesus warned his disciples who were all Jews not to go into Samaria (Northern Israel) to declare such word {Matthew 10:5-6} because Samaritans don't agree with Jews on terms and conditions of worship! John 4:20

But today you will see a churchian just standing by the road side where pedestrians of divers religions are passing shouting
"REPENT"
Now it's senseless because those passersby are from different religions and their terms totally differs so on what ground are they to repent?

The same applies to this BORN AGAIN issue!

Emusan:
Stay on the topic and address my points which are:
1. Why did you post a video from an exjws called apostate?
2. Why did you lied that you presented evidence when you only posted two videos which actually against your claims?
3. Where was it written in the scripture that God gave the Jews a specific date they will return from Babylon?
These are the issues.....Don't deviate I won't give you the room to do so.

The only issue here is faithless miscreants complaining about faithful people.

There are tens of thousands of religions out there with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines so if you're OK with all of them then you're deceiving yourself!

MightySparrow:
Ọlọpa ewo n t,'epe?
I only say your truth is a community truth not accepted to the rest of us.

Are you saying Oyedepo truth is accepted by all other churches?

You're just deceiving yourself walahi talahi!

Westerhoffe:
Just admit you do not have the answers to my questions and comments… that's why your replies have always been off-point.

OK Mr worshiper of a nameless god!

MightySparrow:
I don't involve myself in such matters.

So are you saying all those condemning that church aren't TOXIC to your Pentecostal stuff?

MightySparrow:
One of such is the topic under consideration.

Have you now agreed that SCOAN should be accepted as part of what you call Christianity?

Or your Pentecostal people still need some adjustments?

MightySparrow:
You are on course.
The Bible enjoins us to be our brother's keeper. I am zealously campaigning against the 'yeast' of JWs.

So all the different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines is like what to you if only JWs is the yeast that's giving them a problem?

Guy are you sure your grey hair comes with a sound mind or you have wasted all your youthful times in delusion?

Yeast spoils what is well preserved not the lots of different religions claiming they're all followers of the same person yet contradicting themselves!

Westerhoffe:
You still show how childish and inexperienced you are by all your recent comments in all attempts to divert attention to unreasonable points.
You claim to proclaim GOD, but you don't even know GOD!
You think by just mentioning the name of GOD, that shows or proves you know Him?
No.
These doesn't prove you know GOD, fella. You're still very far from the truth and understanding of His personality.
All your comments reeks of lack of knowledge of the same GOD you claim to proclaim!
Can't you even see?
Have GOD Himself called you and revealed to you the mystery of His personality?
I know your answer will be, "Yes, as written in the Bible." But man, that is not where it ends.
There are still several mysteries about GOD that no one, and I mean no man will ever find out unless He reveals it to you.

Responding to you is like playing with a kid!

epainos:
Ok. Thanks for the answer.

You're welcome!