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Broveens42:
Melchizedek didn't die according to Heb 7:23..

Ọmọ Melchizedek is one of Adam's descendants so he has died just like all other humans!

Kingsnairaland:
Over one billion people practice what I say many believe in Jesus and believe Jesus is God
Tell me how many practice your words that you can only be saved by the law and that Jesus is not God.

Jesus never wanted QUANTITY rather what he want is QUALITY! Matthew 7:13-14

So the population of those doing God's will on this planet today is ratio 1:1100 globally but it's OK with Jesus because only 8 humans survived Noah's day! Luke 17:26

elated177:
The righteous walk is an individual walk. No one will answer for you on the day of judgement when we all appear before the judgment seat of the Father of spirits of all humans.

Answering for our deeds is individual but then if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses you have nothing to say before our God because you are doomed!

elated177:
MaxInDHouse, what is the will of God?

The will of my own God is for all obedient humans to become one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} that's what Jesus came to establish with his teachings so if you're not one of those WORKING towards achieving this goal all your righteousness is worthless before our God {Isaiah 64:6; Luke 18:18-23} that's what Jesus meant when he said calling him Lord Lord or having supernatural gifts makes you nothing if you're not living a life that unite all those working towards the goal. Matthew 7:21-23

The one and only organization working towards this goal is Jehovah's Witnesses that's why you're nowhere to be found in the will of our God!

Emusan:
I've answered OP already.
Or should I use hammer to knock that into your head? Check my reply to your previous post. Always remember to pick your brain from your Hall whenever you're discussing with me.

Next time you don't have to mention me if you know you're not ready for mature discussion i know you hate me but that's not enough reason to follow me from thread to thread just to insult me.

Trump and his supporters are not Christians going by the words of Jesus Christ that's what the OP meant and as for you you're just an atheist disguising on NL.

If Jesus never welcome contradicting teachings and you can't distinguish between false teacher and true servants of God then allow those who knows to chat not just jumping into discussions to promote atheism.

It's atheistic advocating for all the different religions claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines it simply expose you as an unbeliever who is mocking God's son for praying that his disciples should have the same line of thought! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10

Broveens42:
It's like you don't understand English or what?
Or you enjoy liking and sharing your own posts?
*Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law*
The language structure here is simply saying ...
" What further need was there that a priest should come (from a perfect order in Melchizedek) and not Aaron. So it's simply saying there was need to change(transient) from Aaron(law) to Some concept and what's that concept?
Simply a mirror image of a Melchizedek with an UNCHANGED(nature) priesthood.
This is a simple case of imitation by the writer..
That's the point I was trying to make

Melchizedek is DEAD the point Paul was making is that Melchizedek never transfer the priesthood to anyone he served as priest once and was never mentioned afterwards so Jesus served as the high priest once and for all times.

But the case that led to all these is the law that says Israelites should pay tithes to Levites!

Funny enough the publication apostate quoted clearly stated that the inhabitants of Antioch used the name "CHRISTIANS" to mock the disciples of Jesus.
So why argue blindly?

Emusan:
The fact is they know.

That's what the OP asked you!

How do you define Trump so that himself and those supporting him fits in to the name CHRISTIANS?

MindHacker9009:
You should quote the whole section and just the question alone which relates to that section.

You quoted Paul out of context that's why i have to expatiate for you to grasp what he is talking about.

People may join any group and relate as equals in the group but the rules in the group does not change what happens outside the group.

MindHacker9009:
Go and study European history Rome, too was later conquered by the Babarians from the North of Europe like they conquered Jerusalem in AD 70.

The world powers were 5 in number before Rome:

Egypt
Assyria
Babylon
Medo-Persia
Greece
Rome
Anglo-America (England and America)

By the time Rome was ruling as world power England was referred to as part of Barbarians until they conquer Rome.

So each of the world powers introduced their own system of rule, policies and ajenda that's why any tribe under them must pay whatever they demand.

That is what has been in history for centuries!

MindHacker9009:
Just picking and quoting what you like below shows you are are just being deceiptive.

You asked questions and i'm answering you to show the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you are reading!

MindHacker9009:
But he could not forgive Judas

Judas committed suicide out of shame and grief both Judas and Peter betrayed him the only difference is that one did due to fear while the other due to the love of money.
So Judas' love for money destroyed him! 1Timothy 6:6-10

MindHacker9009:
You are wrong! Israel already had a civilised nation.

Who civilized Israel?
Before they were taking to Babylon Israel was no longer a united nation because ten tribes has been scattered throughout Asia minor.
So who civilized Israel before Rome?

MindHacker9009:
Okay let me teach you. It's here: Ephesians 6:5
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

Paul was talking about Christians who are slaves under their Christian owners they're not to see themselves as equals to those that bought them simply because at Christian meetings they do things in common.
Their equality ends during worship.
Foe instance a slave may be a bishop (elder) while their owners are new concerts they should continue to obey them because their position as bishop is only within the Christian congregation not outside the church!

cornelboy:
Jesus Christ ran for Judean presidency, he even voted for Pilate 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I can punish any antagonist of faith in Christ silently!

Ṣebí he ran into the thread to distract the OP let him convince the OP that Trump and those supporting him are (true) Christians.

He is trying really hard to change the subject so i can start exchanging insults with him but he has failed woefully!

Emusan:
A primary school pupil knows what CHRIST-LIKE mean.

Hmmmmmmm they knew yet those that taught them are out there supporting politicians and killing of their neighbours shey?

Surely they knows what CHRIST-LIKE means!

Broveens42:
Hahaha. The context you invented.
I'm talking from a place of authority as concerns languages.
You still didn't answer the salient questions I raised.
You can't talk about context when the original character was clearly SAID to be a priest CONTINUALLY because he didn't die and not because he saved once.
Why is their a need for you and the writer to imitate a perfect priesthood in Melchizedek?

The point Paul was making was clearly expressed in verse 12 of the chapter:

"For since the priesthood is being CHANGED, it becomes necessary to CHANGE the Law as well"

Some believing Jews still secretly go to pay the tithe in the temple to Levites that's what led to Paul's letter regarding tithes.

Melchizedek was not Abraham's descendants and he collected tithe from Abraham so if we are to talk about Abraham paying tithe once and some of his descendants Jews now believe that they're doing God a favour by imitating their great grandfather Abraham what about the other seven children of Abraham since Abraham has paid the tithe in their behalf?

The context here is about CHANGE in the law that says Israelites should pay tithes to Levites. Moreover Jews are just two tribes out of twelve that makes up the children of Jacob so what happens to the ten tribes that has been lost?

So since the priesthood is no longer useful the law that says Israelites should pay tithes to Levites is no longer in force.

Kingsnairaland:
This is not argument
This is the gospel of Jesus.

The Good News (Gospel) Christ preached yielded FRUIT and that is the disciples who are doing the same thing Jesus taught. Act 1:8
So who are those PRACTICING what you're saying?

Emusan:
Christian simply means CHRIST-LIKE.

You supposed to expatiate on this for clearer understanding but it's ok.
So how does Trump and those hailing him fit into this description?

Thanks in advance!

Instead of using two accounts to rain insults just define a Christian in line with God's word and explain how Trump fit in the description!

Aemmyjah:
The way the Pharisees used the Torah to teach that one need not help his parents if he dedicates his money to the temple

Of course they will surely back it up with Bible verses but then most of those coming to the temple have doubts about such teaching moreover Pharisees often contradicts one another due to pride so the Pharisees can't find a united people practicing what they're teaching.

Only Jesus who taught his disciples and prayed that they speak in harmony {John 17:22} was able to produce the FRUIT expected of a true Rabbi (Teacher) that's why God blessed the group Jesus taught by sending His Holy Spirit to anoint them {Act 2:1-4} and when confused Jews in Jerusalem asked what is happening Peter reminded them that it's the fulfilment of God's promise to faithful Jews {Act 2:16-18 compare to Joel 28} sincere Jews were touched to the heart that they asked Peter and the other anointed Christians:

“Men, brothers, what should we do?” Act 2:37

The first century Jews were used to baptism already through John the baptist but this time around they must be baptized in the name of Jesus {Act 2:38} the same man they condemned in Jerusalem {Matthew 27:25} if truthfully they have repented from the heart and willing to gain salvation!

Kingsnairaland:
I will open a new thread. And talk about God and man. Then I will gently list the explanation and back it up with holy Bible is that OK with you then you can see.

There is a thousand and one Rabbis in Israel during the time of Jesus Christ each of them thought he has accurate knowledge of God's word so they all formed different sects but what made Jesus the best Rabbi?
Only his disciples fulfilled what God promised according to the scriptures.
So you can say whatever comes to your head and rap it up with Bible verses but it's the FRUIT (those practicing what you believe) that will stand as evidence of God's backing not your arguments! Matthew 7:16-18

Who is a Christian?

Most people are confused regarding what being a Christian means so when they see someone nice and kind they often conclude that such a person should be a Christian.
The same happens among Yorùbá people till today due to the fact that at a point in time the true God destroyed all evildoers on the planet and preserved one man called Lúà (Noah) and his family ever since then the Yorùbás always refer to anyone with virtuous deeds as a child of Lúà: Ọmọ tí Lúà bí or Ọmọlúàbí

That's not the case with Christianity.
So who is a Christian?

After God confused the language of those living on the earth due to their refusal to move to all the parts of the earth they were forced to scatter {Genesis 11:1-9} but Satan took advantage of this situation to promote racism and people started fighting and killing people for lands to settle! Numbers 21:1-3

As the Creator God planned to unite all those living on the planet once again but this time they will no longer fight or kill themselves {Psalms 46:9} so God's will is that all obedient humans pay attention to what is written in the Bible as they discuss on the name of it's author and his will {Malachi 3:16} so that they can use what is written in the Bible to settle all their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making buying selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone {Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3} that's the assignment given to the promised child to be born among the Israelites who will be the PRINCE to bring about global PEACE! Isaiah 9:6

So when Jesus walked the earth this is what he taught those that listened to him that's why nobody can be saved during the day of God's anger except those practicing what Jesus taught! John 3:16 compare to Zephaniah 2:2-3

A Christian is anyone who has gotten the sense of this message and eagerly anticipating it's fulfilment by joining the group that's working towards it's achievement not just the one shouting Jesus Jesus up and down claiming he has faith yet his faith has nothing doing regarding the will of God! Matthew 7:21-23 compare to James 2:18-26

And by the undeserved kindness of Jehovah the one and only true God i Maximus though formerly a Muslim has been taught all of these {Matthew 28:20} and i know the one and only organization working towards achieving it globally today!

MindHacker9009:
1. Why did Jesus christ ask his father to forgive the Roman soldiers that crucified him?

Because that is what he taught his disciples:

“But I say to you who are listening: Continue to love your enemies, to do good to those hating you, to bless those cursing you, to pray for those who are insulting you" Luke 6:26-27

Moreover the Roman soldiers were acting on instructions they don't know Jesus neither did they know any crime he committed to be tortured so just like their governor Pontius Pilate they are innocent regarding what is happening! Matthew 27:24

MindHacker9009:
2. Why did Jesus christ tell his followers to give to Ceaser what is Ceaser?

They are those in authority responsible for the security, maintenance of peace, building of roads and many other social amenities that those under their jurisdiction are enjoying.
So going by what he taught his disciples they must obey those in authority! Matthew 5:41

MindHacker9009:
3. Why should slaves fear christ like they fear their earthly master.

Quote where you got this!

Kingsnairaland:
Humble yourself and say I should show it to you MaxInDHouse. So that you will stop thinking it movies stories.

If you know where it is in your copy of the Bible you don't need me here before showing your friends do you?

Kingsnairaland:
Then since you don't know where it is in the Bible stop lying that it is movie explanation
Just because you don't know the places God put it in the Bible.
God sent us to teach his mystery not those holiness by works which they teach you in cult jehova witnesses.
At the last day you will see the holy one of Israel as your one true God almighty then you will cry it will be too late.

It's OK!

Now use the scriptures to expatiate for your friends!

Barnabas never wrote any gospel!

MindHacker9009:
@MaxInDHouse
The Jews don't know the guy called Jesus christ or his ressurection, what they heard about him is what christains tell them. Josephus wrote what he wrote about the christ because the Roman empire made him to write it and today you are using it to deceive those that are gullible. If the Jews believed a man rose the third day then the Jews will not be waiting for a true Messiah to come.

I've forgotten you're not an intelligent officer or politician.

Well there are lots and lots of secrets hidden from the masses that only those in top positions knows not the masses.

The Pharisees bribed the soldiers to lie that Jesus' disciples came to steal his body at night so if you're not a member of the Pharisee in the first century how can you know such?

Even though there were other schools of thought like Scribes and Sadducees they can't know what actually happened to Jesus since the Pharisees who are the rulers have spoken what they want their people to believe.

Jesus' disciples too don't know how the soldiers came about the lies it was God's Holy Spirit that revealed to those inspired what actually happened.

So try to reason from both sides don't just close your heart to one side then expecting everyone to follow your thinking it doesn't show sincerity on your part!

Emusan:
So I'm lying against you.
Waoooooo
@achorladey come and see something

This is the comment you responded to.

MaxInDHouse:
They are NOT Christians but gullible followers of politicians disguising as ministers of God so whatever their politically oriented leaders say determines their beliefs!

The OP understood what i meant you're just here to argue blindly.

So instead of using your two accounts to respond to yourself answer him.

He asked you a simple question:

IjeBos:
So, how would (you) define a Christian that would make Donald Trump one? Curious.

Answer the above question and prove me wrong because my stand is that both Trump and those hailing him aren't Christians!

Kingsnairaland:
Everything I said is in the scripture unless you don't know where to locate it.

Don't worry about me try to explain to your friends and don't forget to use the scriptures.

Aemmyjah:
Spirit de die by behaving like mad man
Imagine? Person de don de read Bible under influence of kaikai in the name of being under holy spirit 😂

Churchgoers often remix Nollywood movies to explain what they believe and their pastors promote such ideas so don't be surprised!

I purposely ignored this thread asking the GB to apologize for mistakes while leading God's people.

Why not present the letter of apology from either Moses or the angel that lead God's people through the wilderness for over 40 years on a journey that supposed to last for just 40 days?

The enemies of God's people back then also had the same feelings, they thought Israelites spent 40 years in the wilderness loitering around means there is no special God with them?

So the question to ask faithless miscreants:

Was Moses God's prophet?
Were Israelites God's people?
Why did Moses lead them on such a journey?
Was God with them during those days?
Who is to blame for their long journey?

Failure to address this means the GB doesn't have to apologize to anybody as long as they are able to lead God's people to the promised land which is the fulfilment of what God promised in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3

And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.Isaiah 2:2-4


Of all the religions on this planet claiming they are worshipers of the God of Abraham only the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses fulfilled this prophecy today just as hundreds of nations tried to settle in the land of Canaan only for the Israelites to be the only nation God backed.

So if anyone is complaining about the trials the Israelites faced on their way to the promised land let him or her present the nation that got the land of Canaan back then that's the one and only evidence of God's backing just as the fulfilment of Isaiah 2:2-4 is the one and only evidence that the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob is backing any religious organization today!

IjeBos:
I see, you're only referring to the the Christian name and how it came to be. Emusan can you accept that?

The group name "CHRISTIANS" was used as a CURSE for the disciples of Jesus.
Those calling them by that name WISH their lives to be as miserable as that of the man who claimed he is the Christ.
No wife, no child, no house, nothing to call his own and died like a common criminal.
That's what they wished for whoever is following Jesus back then but the disciples welcomed it anyway! Matthew 10:33

That's the name God was referring to when he said in prophetic message to the Jews who gave that name to the disciples of Christ:

And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name :Isaiah 65:15

Today if anyone say i am a Christian it doesn't have any pedigree like the way Jesus' disciples felt back then because the group name has been bastardized by Satan's agents claiming believers in Christ.

So what is the name God called His worshipers after the name has been defamed?

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 43:10-12

IjeBos:
My fault on the first part and the adversarial tone. I didn't know his past words. Will wait to hear what he has to say.

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

The one and only unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and you can't blasphem against God's Holy Spirit if you are not a politician so politics is the major problem affecting mankind.

If you read the Bible book of Galatians 5:19-21 try to meditate thoroughly on the verses then think about how a person can be a politician without PRACTICING SUPPORTING and PROMOTING at least TWO of the things Paul mentioned in those verses!

Only two SIGNS!

[1] They don't participate in politics because it's the works of the devil.
[2] Majority hates them because they are not participating in politics.

So if you see anybody who has dealings with politicians know that he is an AntiChrist.

Read Galatians 5:19-21

Now the works of the flesh are plainly seen, and they are:
sexual immorality,
uncleanness,
brazen conduct, 
idolatry,
spiritism,
hostility,
strife,
jealousy,
fits of anger,
dissensions,
divisions,
sects,
envy,
drunkenness,
wild parties, and things like these. I am forewarning you about these things, the same way I already warned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit God’s Kingdom!

Note that those PRACTICING these things will not inherit God's Kingdom.
Now check if anyone can be a politician without PRACTICING, SUPPORTING and PROMOTING at least TWO of the aforementioned!