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cornelboy:
How

The personality they know is the trinitarian personality so even if they read in Bible that Jesus is no part of any trinity they won't accept it!

Kingsnairaland:
You are confused by thinking the fruit of the holy spirit is the same as the calling gift of the holy spirit. We are called to do different works
But the fruit of the holy is evident in all believers. Because he brings his presence into us and Jesus start to live through us. This are the fruits of the holy spirit in the child of God
Galatians 5:22-26 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. When it comes to practicing I have the fruit of the spirit love gentleness kindness patience. This one below is the signs of the holy spirit in the believer in the child of God. Mark 16:17-20
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Then other places in the Bible talks about the calling gift of the holy spirit...

GIFTS and FRUIT are both things we can find in trees, GIFTS in trees are in most cases similar so if you're not wise you may confused a mango tree for orange due to GIFTS in trees but a wise person will examine the FRUIT to be sure of the tree.

These illustrations aren't used for individuals otherwise if that's what Jesus meant then an individual having the qualities: LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH and SELF-CONTROL but he or she is an Hindu or Judaists or Muslim or Traditionalist is qualified to enter God's kingdom without having to believe in Jesus!

Come on that's not what it means rather it's the FRUIT that pure worship promotes so that we can all IDENTIFY pure worship not individuals.

Ironically no imperfect human can possess those nine qualities because it's only a perfect soul that can possess it all!

cornelboy:
When I was young, I loved the bible, I would read over many times.
When I saw the way the JWs put the bible to good use, damn I was full of joy, I realised they are what I had been looking for and you can't take that away from me not even satan himself.

You are the perfect description of the parable of the sower!

Some of the seed landed on the roadside, some on rocky ground, some fell on thorns but at last some fell on a fertile soil.

Were the apostates once active among God's people?
YES!
So what happened along the way?
They left because they aren't good soils that's why they can't yield fruit, what they expected totally differs from reality.

I always tell them that a real JW must have been hungry and thirsty for the truth {Matthew 5:6} before finding it {Matthew 7:13-14} so by the time a JW finds the truth he or she will be so happy and fully prepared to let go of anything as in ANYTHING in order to buy the truth and make it his own! Matthew 13:45-46
A JW could be found anywhere that's why we must search diligently for them because when they get the sense of what we're saying they'll stand gìdìgbà for it never to be shaken for any reason!

Kingsnairaland:
This below are the things the ways to know a child of God
You have non of them we know what you have
Galatians 5:22-26
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law
When it comes to practicing I have the fruit of the spirit love gentleness kindness patience etc which you don't have
You abuse and insult and use vile language all the time you don't have the fruit of the spirit

Of course the FRUIT of the spirit as mentioned in the Bible book of Galatians 5:22-23 is what the GROUP PRACTICING pure worship should promote because it's the attribute of God's Holy Spirit which is the complete personification of a child of God but no human can possess these nine qualities now because we are imperfect.
So you can never ever find any human today who can possess the whole nine qualities but the GROUP PRACTICING pure worship will promote it.
Did any of the apostles possesed all the qualities of God's Hold Spirit?
NO!
Did they promote these qualities as a GROUP?
YES!
The one and only person who possessed all this qualities as a human is Jesus Christ.

So stop deceiving yourself it's not an individual thing rather it's the qualities we should watch out in an religion as the proof of God's backing!

Kingsnairaland:
It either you don't know this principle or you mock it. What ever you do comes from your heart and Bible shows the heart speaks and your mind which is your soul speaks too..
And God hears your heart and he knows what you type so they are the same thing. But keep mocking the things of God.

This is what you said:

Kingsnairaland:
I know what am talking about because I speak in tongues and I have seen him who sits on the throne. So if I did not see this things I will never say it with my mouth.

Seeing different things doesn't mean you know the true God the one and only evidence is what Jesus said which is the association of those practicing what you're preaching! John 13:34-35

Dtruthspeaker:
In the whole plate It is the living who weep end eat their teeth not nuts and shells. Son of Satan.

Just as death and hell are LIVING too since they were also cast into the same place. Revelations 20:14


Olódò!

Dtruthspeaker:
Even in the presence of the word "will be"in your version you still lie. You and Satan deserve to be pitched in that fiery furnace to weep and gnash your teeths forever!

So in a nutshell the word "LIVING" never appear around the Lake of Fire, shey?

Thanks for your time!

Janosky:
FALSE claim .
"I am everywhere" is a FORGERY in GN Translation.

When they read God's word they don't think at all talkless meditation.

JEHOVAH told Abraham:

“The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it" Genesis 18:20-21

If God is everywhere going by the wrong translation does He need to go down to Sodom and Gomorrah in order to verify the reports He is getting?

cornelboy:
Consuming blood through any means would be a sin against Jehovah. So I'd choose to always please Jehovah.

Whenever Jehovah warn us against anything it is for our own good but atheists always want to say it's delusion trusting an unseen entity at the expense of one's life.
So instead of just saying because:
"Jehovah said it" a disciple of Christ must know the PRACTICAL ASPECT of what God is warning us to avoid by so doing sincere ones will be moved to acknowledge the source of divine guidance.

Blood is the life in the creature that's the way Jehovah puts it the first time He sound that warning to Noah who is the first human on the planet to eat meat {Genesis 9:4} God repeated the same warning when giving the Israelites laws {Leviticus 17:11, 14} the shocking thing about this warning is that after the Mosaic laws with so many restrictions has been removed God's Holy Spirit reinstated the law to avoid blood among Christians! Act 15:28-29

As imperfect humans we may not be able to understand all that is needed to know about this warning but one thing is sure God foretold a time when deadly diseases will plague mankind {Luke 21:11} with the level at which man has attained in technology we supposed to be able to stopped such from happening but scientists keep making research day in day out but deadly diseases has continued to increase.
WHY?
Because most of the so called researchers are atheists who wants to defy the warning from God so instead of using the right approach they want to prove that God's word is not needed for guidance after all the writers were stone age men who knew little or nothing about technology.
Today the same scientists that presented blood transfusion don't know how to apologize to the masses that it's destroying more lives than saving it so they kept their apologies on a low profile for anyone who finds out by himself that it was a wrong approach towards treatment.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8h-i0WAawI?si=K7UDX8sRx3APu5PI

Broveens42:
Lol.
The only reason for comparison was to create another character with a different principle from Aaron. That's the simple fact. Stop running away from the Aaron character.
But the context of Heb 7:23 is such that both characters didn't taste death, but the writer made so in error as Jesus tasted death.
Heb7
23 Also there were many priests, because they were prevented by death from continuing. 24 But He, because He continues FOREVER, has an unchangeable priesthood.
(The word "forever" doesn't in any way mean break in transmission type of death, and rising. It would be more fitting for the Jesus character when you simply say: "because he continues, has an unchangeable priesthood".
A simple "because he continues" would suggest he died, but wasn't stopped by death, like he miraculously escaped death.
The word "FOR(EVER) suggest Melchizedek N(EVER) died . It also suggest the Jesus character didn't die at any time as the writer tries to mirror an image.

Only Aaron's descendants are to be highpriest in Israel that's why his name was mentioned but the point of emphasis is Melchizedek and Jesus both never transfer their priesthood to anyone.

To answer the above question we need to know the will of God then we can now discuss what Moses, David and other prophets did to help worshipers of God in doing God's will.

The Bible God claimed He is the Creator of heaven and earth {Genesis 1:1} His will is that humans should live peacefully as one family in all geographical locations on this planet {Genesis 1:28} but humans rebelled against God and they decided to stay in just one location instead of spreading {Genesis 11:4} so God confused their language and they had no option than to scatter! Genesis 11:6-9

So God's will is to unite all obedient mankind who are willing to reconcile with Him so that they form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers throughout the earth {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} then they a pure language will miraculously come to be their language as they speak in harmony! Zephaniah 3:9

All the prophets from Moses to Jesus of Nazareth were working towards this arrangement that's why all the Israelites prophets keep directing attention to the prophet who will serve as the Prince to bring world Peace without forcing anyone with weapons! Isaiah 9:6

That is what Jesus established when he ordered his disciples to go and make disciples of all the people so that whoever accepted Jesus' wise counsel may become a member of the global family of peace loving worshipers! Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8

Jesus' disciples are to be cautious in everything they do like serpents and they must be as harmless as doves {Matthew 10:16} they are to see everyone around them as prospective citizen under the Prince of Peace so they must not wish evil against anyone even if the person wish them evil! Matthew 5:43-48; Luke 6:27


Now in what way did Muhammad fit into this setting?

PROPHETS are humans assigned by a deity to do things that will help adherents of the deity in doing the will of the deity.
PRIESTS are humans chosen by a deity to officiate in the temples/shrines of the deity.

So in what way did Moses, David, Elijah and others help adherents of the God of Israel in doing the will of that God?

cornelboy:
Na that one dẹ pain you huh

You give him the pleasure to feel wanted just ignore him with whatever he typed and focus on the interested person let him continue typing whatever comes to his head!

jendoslim:
Please enlighten me
What really qualifies Mohammed as a Prophet of God that makes him claimed to be the last Prophet and the best human?
All through the scriptures, something's always qualifies the Prophet of old, Melchizedek, Moses, David, Elijah, Elisha, Isaiah etc.
I really need to be enlightened
No insults please

Excluding Melchizedek (a priest) all the others you mentioned were recognized as PROPHETS in the Bible.

Instead of asking if Muhammad is a prophet why not first ask what qualifies Moses, David, Elijah and Elisha as prophets afterwards you can later try to see how Muhammad fits into the list.

Kingsnairaland:
Every one knows you abuse and insult when ever you want and any time you see the Bible rules are against you lol You have no knowledge of God or the things of God that why you are filled with anger lol and abusive characters Am sorry I will not act like you I won't use my mouth which I use to worship God and use it to abuse your destiny I chose to forgive you because your lost and I pray God open your eyes to the truth.

Guy no be mouth i take talk am nah hand i take dey type but you can continue deceiving yourself with your prayer after all what Jesus said means nothing to you than the things those demons are showing you on Nollywood!

Tayorshd87:
What do you mean by christainity is just one group when we have many denominations 🤔
Yet there are different types of bible new and old including translation and even different times and mode of.worships all in one religion 🤔 I guess the Muslim have a good say on that and not the christains

That's what any observer who is not studious will say but then it's a lie there is just one group of people practicing what Jesus taught and only that group are the true Christians.

The only thing you need to do is study what Jesus said about his disciples then watch out for the religion where it's been put to use not just concluding that since they claim to be Christians then they're Christians.

I love the way you mention the African gods now do you know that African gods do have things they forbid?
Can someone convince you that he or she is a worshiper of the god that forbids what the person is practicing?
Jesus has an assignment he gave to his disciples and only those doing it are his true disciples not just those calling his name.
So are you ready to know what Jesus assigned his disciples to do?

IjeBos:
Busy couple of days. Listen, I don't think you should be demeaning denominations who use the term Christianity. So, I see the point he was making, though not sure he should have made it here. Why don't you start a new thread and you can discuss whether Jehovah's Witnesses are using the right term.

I don't need it the topic of discussion here is Trump and his supporters aren't Christians going by the words of Jesus of Nazareth.

Trump can be a member of any so called churches but the fact remains that what Jesus taught about his disciples and their activities totally negates what Trump and his supporters are doing so if you say the man is not a Christian does that mean you're demeaning his church?

Broveens42:
If you say Melchizedek has died, then the mirror image is that Jesus has also died because he's a descendant of a human ,,(David) as recorded in your good book.
However you look at it, it's a case of imitation.
But Melchizedek didn't die according to Heb 7:23, hence CONTINUES FOREVER as a priest

Of course Jesus died and resurrected but as for Melchizedek he never resurrected the only reason for comparison is the there has never been a priest before Melchizedek and his priesthood wasn't transferred to anyone.

Kingsnairaland:
I know what am talking about because I speak in tongues and I have seen him who sits on the throne. So if I did not see this things I will never say it with my mouth.

Nollywood dramas from demons to deceive deceitful religionists like you! 2Corinthians 11:14

I don't need to see anything apart from the LOVE among God's people, that's what Jesus confirmed as proof of true faith in God:

I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” John 13:34-35

So if Nollywood movies has blurred your senses surely demons will also act drama for you to feel you're on God's side after all what Jesus said doesn't matter to you.

Mumu!

Kingsnairaland:
It still never too late
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God said once you hear his voice repent and accept Jesus as your lord God almighty and savior just as the Bible said

Then all this things I say here will work in your life..

To be a part of God's plan you must listen and not miss any thing because this earth will be destroyed both heaven and earth

Come to Jesus max.

Funny churchgoer!

Dtruthspeaker:
Matthew 13:42
and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth
It is the living who weep end eat their teeth.

"and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where their weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be." Matthew 13:42

Correct translation!

Those people were mocking Jesus by weeping to stop their children from following Jesus and when they find out that such a child is strong in faith they will gnash their teeth at him just as they did to Jesus so Jesus is saying their acts will make them end up in the lake of Fire.

So instead of quoting controversial verses just quote the word "LIVING" in any verse having to do with the lake of Fire that will solve all the arguments.

Of course you can never ever find it because the Lake of Fire is an illustration that has to do with none existence so the word "LIVING" will totally negates the whole concept if it's found in the use of illustration.

Dtruthspeaker:
But shall be eternally LIVING in the damnation of the heavenly planet. What a bad japa

You can never find the word LIVING in any verse having to do with Lake of fire?

Nollywood Remixed!

Dtruthspeaker:
And the grave is not a good thing that is why hell is thrown into lake of fire along with liars and Satan.

Lake of Fire: Extinction things no longer to be found on planet earth.

Kingsnairaland:
Before you run read this many times

Revelation 7:9-17
¶“9In the next vision I saw a multitude numbering so many that no one could count them.
There were people of all nations, tribes, and tongues.
They all stood, clothed in white, before the throne and before the Lamb.
They held palm fronds in their hands.

10They all cried with loud voices, 'Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!' ” (Revelation 7:9-10).

No one said they will end up in heaven, because there will be a new heaven and new earth

So we will all end up on the new earth which is the new Jerusalem.

Continue deceiving yourself!

cornelboy:
No wahala

There are many people who feel something is missing in religion but they are ready to learn if they can find someone to enlighten them.

When we come in contact with those who have sealed their hearts not to reason there's no need wasting our precious time with such ones {Matthew 10:14} because there are many sheep of the house of Israel out there {Matthew 10:6} that we must fish out! Mark 1:17

Even Jesus they called a satanist, Jewish Rabbis are accursed people!

Tayorshd87:
If it's rubbish then state what is d rubbish in part of the written words cos I know u must be a teenager that don't understand life yet for u to comment rubbish on a post that will unlock your declined religious belief that won't take u far In life

How i wish to agree with you but my guy it's a big lie only believers in Christ Jesus will be accepted by God. Though many people lived by their God's given conscience before the coming of Christ so during the resurrection of the dead God will bring such ones back for them to know what they need to know before they can be accepted.

If you want to know the reason why only those believing in Jesus will be acceptable to God feel free to ask me any question and please only one group knows the truth not all the religions claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.

Christianity is just one group and today they are doing the will of God throughout the earth as foretold in the Bible as they have formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers!

Kingsnairaland:
Go read revelation
Revelation 7:9-10
to see the billions of people that eventually made heavens.

God never created heaven for humans {Psalms 115:16} so Revelations wasn't talking about great crowd in heaven and the Bible never mentioned any specific number great crowd simply means many survived into paradise on earth {Matthew 5:5 compare to Psalms 37:29} only 144,000 will join Jesus in heaven and they will become spirit beings like angels {Luke 20:34-36} that is why Revelations said they can no longer die where Jesus took them {Revelations 20:5-6} but those on planet earth can still commit sin due to flesh and die after Christ's 1000 years reign {Revelations 20:7-10} so humans going to heaven must be transformed into angels because flesh and blood can't live in heaven but here on earth we will live forever enjoying all the blessings of God on planet earth! Psalms 67:6-7

As for those that will be saved Jesus said just as many perished during Noah's time the same will happen {Matthew 24:37} so it can't be in billions the only case where billions are involved in salvation will be after resurrection when billions who have died are brought back to life both RIGHTEOUS (faithful servants of God) UNRIGHTEOUS (innocent sinful humans who lack the knowledge of truth but lived by their conscience) will be resurrected, that's when billions will be involved and as for those who deliberately choose to be wicked they will never be remembered for resurrection! Psalms 9:17

Please face your friends i'm not interested in your nonsense and Ingredients.

Dtruthspeaker:
Kai! Jw lies and fabrications plenty o.
When clearly the bible does not give His lineage. And the designation "King of Peace" should reasonably show every one WHO that is, Most especially as THAT KING'S SON, IS THE PRINCE OF PEACE in addition to lack of lineage.
No eye had seen the hell wey dey wait you.

HELL simply means GRAVE!

No man has seen God at any point in time! John 1:18 compare to Exodus 33:20

But i have no business with you.

cornelboy:
If Jesus is God, is God Jesus?

That has been his argument for so many years back then he had almost four accounts he uses to compliment one another but that's his cup of coffee. Those claiming Jesus is God how many are zealously preaching about the peace Jesus preached and taught?