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MightySparrow:
Hahahaha.
Wobbling and fumbling forward.
;

Do you see why i always say you're an idiot and faithless miscreant?
The OP asked an important question regarding JERUSALEM and instead of you to think of how to answer you ran away only to come quoting me!

MightySparrow:
Because you pick what you like. If you honestly read the whole argument of Paul, what is saying is very clear. Crystal clear. Going back to hardness of heart.
For all who are led by God’s spirit are indeed God’s sons.
Roman 8: 14 NWT.
How does the Spirit lead you, by putting rope on your neck like a goat?

If a father speaks to all the children one on one then there's no need for any child to pass information to others the father should speak to each and everyone of the children.

MightySparrow:
Beloved ones,+ though I was making every effort to write YOU about the salvation we hold in common,+ I found it necessary to write YOU to exhort* YOU to put up a hard fight* for the faith+ that was once for all time delivered to the holy ones.+
Jude.1.3 NWT
If your salvation, faith, experience book is uncommon. I am afraid you and your organization may not be of God.
No need for any consultation. This is plain English. You say.....?

So why writing to the Christians if their God speaks to each and every one of them?

essentialone:
Some persons get used to seeing dreams as God speaking to them.

YES!
The gods still talk to people through dreams and visions today but the God of Abraham has stopped doing that after His Son walked this planet:

Long ago God spoke to our forefathers by means of the prophets on many occasions and in many ways. Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things. Hebrews 1:1-2

After Jesus' earthly ministry the God of Abraham started using only the Christian congregation to communicate with people that's why millions of Jews perished in the first century as they were listening to different Jewish Rabbis thinking their God still use various means.
And apostle Paul made it clear to everyone that even the Christian's God was using in the first century will no longer be used individually as means to communicate with people when that which is complete (Bible) comes! 1Corinthians 13:9-10

You can't understand what the Psalmist said if you're not humble because only Jehovah's Witnesses can TEACH you what is written in our book (Bible) Matthew 28:20
For your information Jerusalem is the same as mountain Zion in the Bible which means it is also a mountain on its own surrounded by other mountains.
Literally it means Jerusalem is situated on high ground but spiritually speaking Jerusalem or mount Zion connotes the center of pure worship surrounded by false religions.
Today the one and only true religion is Jehovah's Witnesses organization surrounded by countless religions all claiming worshipers of the Almighty God and the prophecy about Jerusalem is being fulfilled today only among Jehovah's Witnesses:
People from different geographical locations on this planet will be converted as members of this religion, they will start using the word of the God of Abraham to teach themselves, then afterwards they will settle all their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making buying selling and usage of weapons in the hearts of all their converts and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

In fact Micah concluded that all the people on this planet each will walk in the name of the God of their choice but worshipers of the God of mount Zion will walk in the name of One God {Micah 4:5} and they will have love among themselves {John 13:34-35} as if they're one global family! Zephaniah 3:9

Janosky:
The guy sef no know which of his 3 deities to listen to. Sparrow has to pretend they are "he"

cornelboy:
That guy no dé pay attention for school

The OP (Sand2022) has stopped commenting so i will suggest we leave wanderers alone our main concern should be the one who started the thread with a purpose to know why JWs aren't following Charles Taze Russell as the founder of God's organization.
As for other commentators let's just thank them for picking interest in the most popular group on planet earth {Matthew 5:14-16} and show them that their complaints are well noted!

Sand2022:
I stumbled unto this page in the Finished Mystery of Jehovah's Witnesses that spoke of what Russell believed. The book says:

Since Sand2022 is not commenting anymore i believe he's now convinced that what he typed about Jehovah's Witnesses is totally wrong so there's no need engaging faithless miscreants who has no purpose here!

MightySparrow:
You too know grammar tantamount is a a weak equipment for the direct, real, unmistake, original..... because of hardness of heart....NWT says so!?

Since it's the NWT only a member of the group using it can tell you what our book says if you read it a million times without consulting us it's in vain you are reading our book! Matthew 28:20

greencard:
but God is not the god of the dead na but of the living , hence He still communicate with the living I hear His voice In my heart. The litmus test is if what you hear differ from the biblical order, then I doubt it’s God speaking

There are many spirits speaking contradicting things out there {Micah 4:5} and they all pick words familiar with what people have heard before so words in different books considered holy is what they will mimick, the only way to verify if it's Satan or God is the result of what was heard, if what was heard doesn't result in oneness {1Corinthians 1:10} and peace among the worshipers then it's not the voice of our God! 1Corinthians 14:33, 40

MightySparrow:
Your translation says it is because of hardness of heart you are not hearing Him.
Is NWT corrupt also?

The only proof of hearing is acting in harmony with what was heard so if you're hearing your god as you claim can you present an organized people who are unitedly acting on the word you people heard from your god?
Or your god just tell each of you contradicting things so that any of you can do whatever he or she feels in the name of your god?

MightySparrow:
Hahahaha
Is that what you read in that passage?
I laugh in JW's paradise language.
So you are denying the word of your God in your GB's translation?
NWT! Not KJV o!
And you could be blaming Peter for denying Jesus!?

It's like you've forgotten that your god differ from mine, when my own God talks i grasp the message. According to my own God the reading of His word is tantamount to listen to Him but since yours always talk to you despite having his words written down then each of his worshiper can do anything and claim it's your god that sent him to do so my own God has completed all His messages in the Bible so we are all united in doing what we read in His word!

achorladey:
Yes I can

achorladey:
He sold his publishing company to Jesus in 1914

Now let's start avoiding each other since you said "YES" henceforth i will no longer quote or mention you.
Byebye!

MightySparrow:
Good for you. I read my Bible everyday and still listen for his voice.
Today if you will hear His voice.
Voice! voice!! voice!!!
That is your translation nah.

My own God already completed His WORD in the pages of the Bible so reading it is the same as listening to His VOICE!

justlove91:
We do not agree on the traffic law because it was set by those who are supreme but because the reciprocal effect of the law will accomplish our ideal which is to drive safely on the road.
If the "SUPREME" decides to remove traffic light from junctions and tell us all to drive however we want, do you think we would all agree because they are "SUPREME"? No! why?
Because the reciprocal effect of such decision will not accomplish our ideal (driving save on the road).

You know there are law enforcement agents to deal with traffic offenders that's why you feel safe driving, in a place where there is civil war in fact you will be scared taking the safest road.
WHY?
Because rebels and other militants may drive anyhow as there is no constituted authority to handle the case of traffic offenders.
So the supreme authority is what makes you feel safe driving on the road!

MightySparrow:
I wish this is true for everyone.
My own God speaks to me.
he again marks off a certain day by saying long afterward in David’s psalm, “Today”; just as it has been said above, “Today if you listen to his voice, do not harden your hearts.”
Hebrews 4 7 -8. NWT
This is your translation.
Can you see that if you don't harden your heart by erroneous teaching, you will hear Him?
The problem is not speaking, but hearing.
Hearing him today.
Today!

I listen to my own God everyday by reading the Bible!

justlove91:
Just as we all agree on our traffic law.

The traffic laws were set by those who are SUPREME that's why there is punishment for offenders.
So how do we come to agreement on who is supreme regarding morals?

achorladey:
Because na the madness and insanities peddling peddler be the owner of Nairaland or set up the rules here
The same person that says nairaland is created by atheist and lawless can't do without the same atheist platform to advance the numerous delusion, madness and insanities peddling from his lying and manipulated brains 😂😂😂
Your wèrè peddling no start today now

Ọmọ leave who or where i dey chat i'm talking about you in particular, can you stop quoting or mentioning me!

Oya answer straightforward it's either YES or NO.

achorladey:
all those religion mentioned above are established long before the religious organization Russell set up. You cannot change the fact about that.

Russell never set up any religious organization and as for religions before Jehovah's Witnesses none of them meet up with God's will today as written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

achorladey:
We already know the person peddling madness and insanities about the need for us to avoid you guys for one year.

You are not a man that can keep your words. Avoid them completely no even reach one month before the madness and insanities peddling resume lies and manipulations response to our post

Can you stop quoting or mentioning me?

Watch as the wèrè will not respond o!

achorladey:

Those liars and manipulators will have us believe that Russell who was consulting all sorts of pagan beliefs and had his own studies of the scriptures which he view as Bible equivalent is the person who restored pure worship

NO!
When people are making research they can go to any length since they're not sure of whom to trust.
Before 1914 no religion was practicing the love Jehovah's Witnesses have among themselves today so what makes you think a honest hearted researcher should stick only to the Bible when all those using it are contradicting themselves?

So it's after 1914 when Jesus returned that he began working with the International Bible Students Association as they're the one and only group sincerely searching for the truth.

Today Jehovah's Witnesses are using only the Bible because we are now fully convinced that there is no other source of divine guidance apart from the Bible but before now anybody can search anywhere for the truth about the true God.
Buddhists, Hindus, Traditionalists, Judaists, Muslims are all SEARCHING for God but when Jesus returned he helped the JWs to see that only the Bible can be of help!

achorladey:
Keep the above to yourself. Answer the questions asked by your brother accordingly the way he placed it. I don't need explanations
I (Achorladey) equally answer that question in the same order.
It is your fellow brother sorry friend in Jehovah aka Janosky that raised those questions to show why your GODS have right to teach and practise wrong doctrine. Answer the question.
You people will go about lying and manipulating the scriptures. After you are caught in your lies you start denials and come back to admit you lied.

Wow!
This is wonderful!

The points in that post threw you off balance to the point where you totally forgot to add the meaningless smileys!

achorladey:
While billons are working together as one sad family

YES!
Would you call your own children a family when they raise weapons against one another?
Ọmọ only Jehovah's Witnesses are the family who has resolved never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:4
If If If BILLIONS should become a family on this planet production of weapons will gradually come to an end!

Before the Bible was compiled God spoke with people but after the last book of the Bible was written God said:
"NO ADDITION NO SUBTRACTION!" Revelations 22:18-19

cornelboy:
You should start worshipping those GODS lol
I only revere Jehovah as the one God

Ọmọ that's the weapon {Isaiah 54:17} apostates use to kill his faith in God's organization but he doesn't know that it's only fools that can be affected by such subtle means let him call all those apostates here i will prove to them that they are fools! Job 5:13
That's why they're crying all over Nairaland as if they believe in the standard God set but in reality they are mocking God's word!

cornelboy:
Lol why you mention me if no want make I mention you. Na ment or wetin
If Nairaland put blocking option today, na you a go first block

He is just restless as if everything JWs say is all about him so he wants to silence JWs as if we must not talk to others.
Ṣebí if he doesn't want to listen no one is forcing him!

achorladey:
Your lies and manipulations can delude you more not others

You just like deceiving yourself.

Millions are working together as one big and happy family yet you say only Maximus can be deluded with thorough explanation.

What's the difference between you and atheists?

Are you interested in knowing the one and only true Christian group today?

Jesus said after the death of his apostles Satan will initiate different sects all claiming followers of Christ {Matthew 13:25} so will you like to know how you can distinguish between Jesus' only group today and religions under the control of Satan?

justlove91:
"Life doesn't have an inherent purpose but it is an opportunity to create purpose,"
Roy T. Bennett

You are walking down the road, you saw a snake on your path, there is a stick laying on the ground, you picked it to scare the snake away.
Prior to you using the stick, it has no purpose but you gave it a purpose.

Prior to emergence of human as self conscious beings, life doesn't have a purpose (animals don't give life any purpose) but human can give life a purpose even if it doesn't have an inherent purpose.

So, if someone feels his life has no purpose or meaning, he can create one and such a person has to value morality if he wants to live in human society. If he can manage to leave the earth and live on the moon then he doesn't have to care or value morality.

So how can we all agree on morality since we want to live as a society?

achorladey:
What is your answer to the question asked by Janosky?

There is a difference between inspired writings and practical applications.
Jesus is the one and only servant of God who is inspired and perfectly grasp the application of God's word but all other imperfect humans do err while trying to apply the inspired words.

The apostles weren't teaching falsehood but they surely err in some of the applications just as their modern day counterpart did in our day.

For instance Peter was with Jesus throughout the ministry yet when it comes to how Christ's love should be applied Peter needed to be corrected by Paul who never walked with Jesus in the ministry at all. Galatians 2:11-14

Was Peter inspired to pen down part of God's word?
YES!
Was Paul instead to pen down part of God's word?
YES!
Did they perfectly grasp all the application back then?
This is what Apostle Paul had to say in response to the last question:

"For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially, but when what is complete comes, what is partial will be done away with" 1 Corinthians 13:9-10

Meaning they never grasp all the applications perfectly rather they were all anticipating a time when pure worship will be restored so that nobody can present a better performing group than the perfectly restored pure worship which Jehovah's Witnesses have today!

achorladey:
You see the manipulator and liar says......
Joseph smith is the founder of Latter Day Saints. Ask the liar and manipulator of the scriptures whether LDS are worshipping same God as Jehovah’s witnesses and are true Christians? The madness and insanities peddling peddler will start another round of lies and manipulations. Why not worship with LDS since they are all the same critically

Of course Jehovah's Witnesses and Latter Day Saints aren't worshiping the same God today!

WHY?

The LDS have derailed from the course.

RESTORATIONISTS are supposed to figure out the assignment given to Christ's followers not just establish a religion to add to the numbers of existing religions contradicting themselves.


So if Joseph Smith and Charles Taze Russell are alive today and both of them kick against the sign God Himself gave in the scriptures as evidence of His presence in the midst of His worshipers then both of them have derailed.

Note that they set off as RESTORATIONISTS not founders of a new religion so each must present the group that's performing according to the job Christ assigned to his disciples only Jehovah's Witnesses are performing excellently today and it's evident that neither Joseph Smith, Charles Taze Russell, John Calvin or Martin Luther knew what Jehovah's Witnesses are performing globally today but all of them realized that something was wrong with the churches of Christendom.

So all of them had the same line of thought as they could sense that something is wrong with the churches of Christendom but they never lived to witness the restoration of pure worship today: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

achorladey:
Show where Jesus called other Christians denominations lie lie Christians. Just one verse. It will equally be the same verse that nails your approval or disapproval.
I dey wait

All Jews thought they were worshiping the God of Abraham just like Jesus and his disciples until Jesus made it clear that only those having the same line of thought with him are worshipers of his own God! Matthew 12:46-50

So if you can't separate false religions from the only true one then you're a practicer of false religion Baal worshiper!

achorladey:
Na your madness and insanities peddling brains go retrieve am for you soon. Na now you wake up sey you dey lie that they are teaching lies. All your effort to prove they too are not free from blunders, mistakes and errors was about what?
You better start your denial now

Bwahahahaha!

Maximus never said apostles teaches lies!