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achorladey:
Is Moses a real prophet?
Abi na is Musa a real anobi
You go run like person peddling insanities and madness as usual now

I'm asking you to name real prophets in our day not Bible times.
When Moses was alive people like you criticized him so if Moses was a real prophet and people still criticized him definitely there will be real prophets in our day too.
So name the real prophets in our time àbí your own God don diẹ so he no get real prophets again?

world123:
To determine the church to fellowship with, you will need the Holy Spirit. John 16:13 says that the Holy Spirit will guide to all truth....... If you truly want to worship God the right way and at the right place, consult the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit speaks to us if we truly want to hear him.

Does the Holy Spirit speak to people who don't know what is in the Bible?

So if someone doesn't know what the Bible say the Holy Spirit will speak to him or her about the church he should attend?

I thought Jesus' disciples were sent to go and meet people in their homes {Matthew 10:11-13} and those sent to you will continue TEACHING you so that you get BAPTIZED as one of them! Matthew 28:19-20

So why thinking of which church to attend when you already have those that came preaching and teaching you in your own house? Romans 10:13-15

AnAbnormalHuman:
See why I call y'all funny set of peeps? 😂
So somehow, Jesus forgot Peter's name and decided to call him Satan?

Or Jesus was speaking to Satan himself? 😂
Is it just you or y'all are this funny? 😂

When Jesus said to Peter, “Get behind me Satan.”
Did Peter physically get behind Jesus?
Isn't it wise to say that Satan (whom Jesus was talking to) got out?

Y'all should step up your game.

Guy the comment you quoted wasn't for you so you can't grasp what led to that statement!

AnAbnormalHuman:
Wait,
1. Are you a PR for JWs? (I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if that's your full-time job)
2. You're saying I shouldn't have talked about JWs, meanwhile they talk about every single sect in the world?
Funny set of peeps.
And yh, you started selling your organization to me again. I observed that immediately.

If you're not interested in religion then there's no reason why you should dabble into religious topics.
Know today that religion has always been about which is true and which is false so you can't separate religion from mentioning what is wrong when it comes to sacred matters.

Bestbrain123:
What do you mean by false religion? I challenge you to boldly list out the false religion you think we have? I have told the other guy before that all religion is equally wrong because there sets and principle are not the same.

Can you list all the sources of FAKE currencies in the world?
That's how nobody can list false religion but you can tell the features of legal tender so that your listener will know what to look out for when he or she wants to IDENTIFY real money.


So what should we expect from TRUE religion?

Before answering that question we must first talk about the purpose of religion. Religion brings people together to think alike so true religion should help people to solve the problem emanating from disparities.
If your religion can't unite you and your fellow religionists so that you resolve your disparities peacefully among yourselves then it's FAKE.

GOD means SUPREME BEING the one who is supreme should see to it that all his subjects are living peacefully among themselves and that there's no division among them!
READ John 17:22; 1 Corinthians 1:10

In the absence of that then there's no reason to believe in a supreme being!

achorladey:
The case before you is not about presenting real prophets

There is no FALSE in the absence of REAL!

Emusan:
But the same Jehovah are not right when they say what the Apostles did was generosity and not EVIL like you claim.

Ọmọ learn to update whatever you know.

Peter was kind when he advised Jesus yet Jesus called Peter "Satan" Matthew 16:21-23

So it's not about generosity rather it's about PRACTICING what Jesus never taught!

He is the only begotten Son of God who can easily detect when Satan want to use subtle means to lead God's people astray imperfect humans like the apostles can't know that so they must stick to whatever Jesus said!

achorladey:
Is your religious organization and the leaders false prophets? Let see whether we are liars or not

If they are false prophets oya present real prophets nah.
After all the Bible is there for everyone to read about what God promised His worshipers will achieve during the endtime!

Prosper1912:
Oga I wasn't raise a jw,I have been to so many churches the only thing they are good In is to sing and dance Sunday to Sunday nothing more.

Apostate knew that very well that's why he can never ever mention a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Prosper1912:
And the painful thing is that e keep on asking the same question over and over again even after the answer have be given to him.
Oga nor wan greed rest. This truth is that the light we keep on getting brighter not even Satan can stop it. The great Crowd will continue to grow.

Hades can't stop this anymore! Matthew 16:18

Emusan:
At least you already said what they did was EVIL, so allow your brothers to come. I want to know if they agree with you.
Nobody ask you story Mr storyteller
Correction and for future reference: The Apostles didn't do that with the mind set of ERADICATING POVERTY but out of generosity.

The highlighted!

First of all it wasn't even their own idea rather the move came from wealthy converts who feel so much love for their fellow believers that were poor. Act 4:32

So the apostles fell for the gesture forgetting what Jesus told them about poor ones.

Ọmọ take it to anywhere the program was to ERADICATE POVERTY among themselves.

Generosity should be what you personally own not what others own the money brought wasn't from the pocket of apostles! Act 4:34

Prosper1912:
Why are u crying up and down than u left the organization, Oga rest before depression finish u.

I always feel God really love me because i first met Apostates before i came in contact with God's people but what helped me?

I'm not a fool neither gullible so i don't just follow what the majority say rather i try to find out the truth in whatever people say and when i looked critically most times i discovered that those speaking against Jehovah's Witnesses don't really know them and those that know them yet have turned their backs on the organization has been given a job:

To malign God's organization!

So before someone says five things i often look critically into what they have to say at least i know that in our society today Jehovah's Witnesses have exemplary character so if you keep saying negative things about them i will just count you as an enemy of good thing.

Apostates are so stupid that they won't even say anything good about JWs yet they can't present a better performing group than JWs.

Ọmọ that's what keep drawing me closer to the JWs until i became a member of God's organized people!

Prosper1912:
U know u have fail, u gat nothing o offer.

He only comes to ask questions faithlessly so if you maintain the faith he will become furious looking for ways to ACCUSE you but then he is completely FAITHLESS!

Emusan:
Waoooo what the Apostles did by selling their properties and share it EQUALLY among themselves is EVIL
Let me see how many of your brothers will agree with you on this.
Before I bring fact.

Ọmọ that's what has been happening to the Governing Body today!

At times they get the perfect understanding of what Jesus laid down but some other time they err.
Jesus never taught us to eradicate poverty among believers so the move to do so is not from the holy spirit that's why it led to disaster and instantly they stopped the practice.

When we tell you people that the understanding of inspired writings is a gradual thing you will say the apostles got it perfectly whereas they are also imperfect humans like all others.

So how do we know that they got something correctly? Is it just because they were with Jesus or because they were able to perform SIGNS?

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

It's because they were able to fulfil what God promised in the scriptures.

That's exactly what our Beroean brothers looked into not just because those men were with Jesus! Acr 17:11

achorladey:
Your insanities and madness peddling won't recall your devotion to Holy quran.
Liar and manipulator

Ọ̀DẸ̀!

Have you ever seen me commenting and reciting the Quran the same way i'm quoting the Bible?
I was never the religious type until Jehovah's Witnesses proved to me that God surely have a people doing His will!

AnAbnormalHuman:
Man I'm utterly confused. Why do I need to know all these about you because of my reply to Sandman2022...?
Did I dabble into your opinion on religions? You should be telling sandman all these, not me. I'm not interested in religious matter here on this thread. I was just making an observation, so yes, I ain't anyone's brother in Faith.

Well Jehovah's Witnesses are right for their understanding of the word Babylon the Great that's what i want to correct in your comment.

You should have dropped your comment without mentioning JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES and saying what we do is wrong:

AnAbnormalHuman:
But you also said well by adding that the JWs shouldn't condemn other religions as a way of redeeming themselves from their imperfections.

Emusan:
What Apostles did that have used for example on this forum. Was it bad or good?

If it's about selling what they have and sharing the proceeds EQUALLY among themselves that is EVIL from the standpoint of our greatest counselor.
Remember Judas Iscariot raised the suggestion when Jesus was with the apostles {John 12:5} but Jesus told them:
For you always have the poor with you, and you can do them good whenever you want to, but you will not always have me. Mark 14:7
So since Jesus never agreed to the idea nor did it then such practice is from the flesh not the spirit!

Emusan:
But Watchtower sold your Halls
Do they share it EQUALLY among JWs?

I told you i am a member of WATCHTOWER so whatever the group does is on behalf of all members globally {1Corinthians 1:10} Jesus never share money after cheerful ones donate it rather it's for other necessary things having to do with the ministry!

Emusan:
This isn't answer to my question.
Did what Apostles do wrong or right?

Going by what resulted from the exercise Yes it is WRONG! Jesus said we will always have poor ones among us so each can do whatever he feels is best to help his brothers and sisters in the faith {Mark 14:6} that's not the work of the GB (Apostles)

AnAbnormalHuman:
Man I wonder why you've made it a goal to tell me this. Okay, after learning these, what next?

Next thing is to find out why God established a form of worship (religion) when He made a covenant with the nation of Israel.
That will answer the question regarding what Satan wants to achieve with the initiation of countless religions.
I became one of Jehovah's Witnesses after knowing the truth about religion so when i see anyone interested in religious matters i feel like such a person is my brother in faith! Matthew 12:46-50

It's a SIN to start praying the first time!

Oteneaaron (Courz) is following secretly just to know exactly when he should come into the discussion.
Meanwhile both Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit means delusion to him yet he wants to speak against Jehovah's Witnesses for believing even though others also believe he's not bothered only Jehovah's Witnesses are his problem!

Emusan:
Well it's ignorance. Changing name doesn't erase the founder. Jack is the founder of Twitter, Elon Musk bought it and change the name to X. Does that mean Jack isn't founder of X? If anything by Russell should be discarded, why are they still believe that Jesus returned in 1914? because that was Russell ideas copied from SDA. Why are they still referring to their gods in Warwick as Faithful and discreet slave? because these are Russell ideas. In fact, Russell and his team are the ones Jesus met when he searched the whole Earth and found no true Christian. These are the reasons Watchtower can't openly discard Russell.

I'm not here for exchange of hurtful words o!

Between Jesus and John the baptist who is the founder of Christianity?

John started gathering repentant Jews, he was baptizing them, he baptized Jesus too, many of his disciples later became Christians.

So between John who started the whole thing in the first century and Jesus who later came to him who is the founder of Christianity?

Emusan:
But you just said you don't practice that.

Are you talking about what Jesus (perfect teacher) laid down or what apostles (imperfect teachers) did?
Which one exactly are JWs not practicing?

Emusan:
But the same hall will be sold later without your money returned back to you

We don't contribute to take it back that's what CHEERFUL GIVERS means {2Corinthians 9:7} Jesus Christ didn't teach us to receive back what we have given out to support God's work! Act 20:35

Emusan:
So was the practice good or bad?
Why JWs can't follow their example?
JWs sell their hall or not?

That's what God's organization is doing for our brothers who are less privileged to enjoy pure worship in all places! 2Corinthians 8:14

AnAbnormalHuman:
Why telling me this?
Did I speak about trinity?
Do I believe in trinity?

All other religions has been in existence before the birth of TRINITY yet none has countless offshoot like TRINITY that has given birth to so many children all claiming Abrahamic in faith!

budaatum:
The oga of the slaves is a demigod? Okay, I accept you think that way.
Adam was an ignorant naked enslaved demigod who was freed by the rib Eve who used her own senses.

Case closed!

Bestbrain123:
"Religious colonization" is a disease affecting any cultural and traditional good health of a people whose mindset has been manipulated infected into thinking religion is uttermost saviour to human survival thereby killing the long aged systematic growth and wellbeing of that peoples way of life. THAT IS RELIGION FOR YOU.

False religion you mean!

budaatum:
Adam was at best an overseer of the animals and the Eve he lied to. And overseers are often just one of the slaves.

OVERSEER is a DEMIGOD!

Obviously you're confused as you don't even know what to say against God's organization!

Emusan:
So Jesus teachings aren't applicable to JWs today

We are practically applying everything Jesus taught

Emusan:
But today JWs are selling properties and never shared EQUALLY rather people like you still donate to them

You mixed it up!
I am a JW so whatever i donate is for the build up of God's organization spiritually speaking as more Bibles, literatures and Halls are put in place where they're NEEDED.
The apostles shared money to eradicate poverty among the first century Christians that is what Jesus never did neither did he teach them to do so!

Does following/believing a first century Jewish carpenter determine your salvation?

AnAbnormalHuman:
That Babylon the Great, it's not a physical Kingdom, it's Spiritual.

Ancient Babylon was the center of all kinds of worship yet they welcomed any idea as long as it doesn't go against the sovereignty of Babylon.
So Trinity Doctrine is Babylon the Great cause different religions emerged under Trinity even though they're contradicting themselves yet they all bow to Trinity and they keep fighting and killing one another over politics something Trinity supposed to resolve for them if truly it's from God!

Emusan:
He dare not give answer!
The apostles were selling their properties and shared EQUALLY among themselves.

They did it against Jesus' teachings because he specifically told them that they will always have the poor among them.

Emusan:
But today JWs are selling properties and never shared EQUALLY rather people like you still donate to them

Jesus never taught us to do that otherwise there wouldn't have been any poor ones among his disciples!

https://www.nairaland.com/7482212/jehovahs-witnesses-babylon-great

https://www.nairaland.com/7471284/jehovahs-witnesses-inconsistent-interpretation

https://www.nairaland.com/7858224/charles-taze-russel-believed-divinity

https://www.nairaland.com/7532433/144000.html

https://www.nairaland.com/7471236/jws-death-acquittal

Out of 8 threads 4 is about Jehovah's Witnesses:

“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house." Matthew 5:14-15