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achorladey:
You are still running from pillar to post to show one blunder they committed when teaching others as captured in your Bible and religious publications

So what they did by selling properties and sharing the proceeds EQUALLY was not part of the teachings shey?

Are you saying Christians in others places back then won't imitate them if they continue doing so?

Ọmọ teaching is not just by words but also by actions what they taught by that exercise was WRONG according to the founder of Christianity who said poor ones will always be among them! John 12:8

achorladey:
According to MaxInDHouse
Madness and insanities peddling for whoever says it is what Peter and the Holy spirit was doing
MaxInDHouse assimilate that into your madness and insanities peddling brains.

TRINITY no dey inside Bible but billions from different religions believe in trinity not so?

This one is clear the Apostles were trying to ERADICATE POVERTY AMONG THE BELIEVERS that's why they were selling properties and sharing the money EQUALLY.

No matter how pained you are this one can't be hidden. They committed a blunder and it resulted in the death of a Christian couple that is why they stopped the exercise!

achorladey:
Those are your concocted lies and manipulations against Peter and the actions of the Holy Spirit on Peter. You now added but to peddle more lies and manipulations of that scripture.....
I am not dealing with if, speculations, assumptions that in reality don't exist Keep it to yourself.
You are the liar and manipulator of the scripture that added eradication of poverty. You already admit adding it and you keep the lies and manipulations going with another assumption, speculations that don't exist.
Nowhere in that accounts says the Christians kept increasing because they the poor people around were rushing what they were sharing

Ọmọ go straight to the point because everyone can see that they were trying to ERADICATE POVERTY AMONG THEMSELVES!

achorladey:
Apostle Peter was imperfect

This is all i need in your post!

So the first century apostles were imperfect therefore they also committed blunders like their 21st century counterpart: Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Case closed!

achorladey:
What the Bible say is self explanatory.
Moreover, the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and soul,* and not even one of them would say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common.+ 33 And with great power the apostles continued giving the witness about the resurrection of the Lord Jesus,+ and undeserved kindness was upon them all in large measure. 34 In fact, no one was in need among them,+ for all those who owned fields or houses would sell them and bring the value of what was sold, 35 and they would deposit it at the feet of the apostles.+ In turn distribution would be made to each one according to his need.+ 36 So Joseph, who was also called by the apostles Barʹna·bas+ (which means, when translated, “Son of Comfort”), a Levite, a native of Cyʹprus, 37 owned a piece of land, and he sold it and brought the money and deposited it at the feet of the apostles.+

Nowhere you will ever see Peter or the Christians were trying to eradicate poverty. Those are your lies and manipulations peddlings regarding the Christians that time. It all originate to show your arrogance and pride of masters at interpreting the scripture

Guy the phrase
"eradicate poverty"
Is not there but:
"Each member of the group was selling their properties the rich and the poor ones among them then dropping the money at the feet of the apostles who were sharing the money gathered EQUALLY among all"

So if that should happen in any gathering today do you think any poor man will not rush to join them even if they are worshiping Satan directly?

Ọmọ you no fit lie for this one nah eradication of poverty them wan do!

Myer:
How do these verses contradict Religious tolerance? How is praying for Nigerians wrong? You see where religious intolerance is toxic?

Do you believe in Jesus of Nazareth?

If you do then i will proceed but if not there's no need for further comments!

achorladey:
Starting with John 17 :8-9.......

"For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine." John 17:8-9 KJV

Jesus was not even preaching and teaching in that account. Renders the point you are making out of it invalid

He was PREACHING and TEACHING when majority of his disciples left him! John 6:66

So it was those that stick to him despite all his teachings that seems irritating to his contemporaries that Jesus prayed for he never prayed for all his listeners.

That's according to what God's word said @ Proverbs 28:9; Jeremiah 11:14 this shows that Jesus was strictly following the standard God set in the scriptures regarding whom we should pray with! Matthew 5:17


Over to you Sir!

Myer:
God help us all.
God bless Nigeria,
God bless You and I.

Praying in behalf of people who don't want to listen to God's laws!
Proverbs 28:9
Jeremiah 11:4
John 17:8-9

Well let's just say you don't know!

AnAbnormalHuman:
only in the ways they imitate Christ.

Christ condemned all existing religious sects in the first century and established his own.
He told all nice people in the condemned sects to leave and join his own disciples so if you're not doing the same or joining a group that's doing the same then you are NOT imitating Christ!

achorladey:
Another lie and manipulations of the scripture. Show us the word eradicate poverty in what Christians were doing.

There's no need arguing blindly just explain what they were trying to do when each member was selling what they have to share the proceeds EQUALLY among themselves!

achorladey:
We know you lied against Peter and the Holy spirit about what happened to Ananias and Sapphira.
That is the summary of your post up there. You lied against who Jesus directly appointed and whose holy spirit was operational when carrying out the assignment given to him

Peter that denied Jesus three times and also denied his fellow believers shey?

Ọmọ there has never been a time imperfect humans got things excellently without mistakes that's the indisputable fact so if you say God's organization today also commit blunders it's because those taking the lead are also imperfect humans like the first century Apostles.
Period!

Aemmyjah:
I just ignore him
I don't even read his comments once i see the name...

He's only trying to constitute nuisance that's why he worths no response but at times when he lie against God's organization i put him in his place!

achorladey:
We have repeatedly asked you to show lies we say about your religious organization up till today. No one has pointed just one. Even the same MaxInDHouse said the evils we pointed out in your midst he said are equally done elsewhere trying to use it as means to save the face that man made organization

Do you believe the first century Christians?

Madman will answer "YES!"

Were the first century Christians free from accusations regarding what was prevalent in their time?

NO!

So what made them Holy if the same bad things happening elsewhere do happen in their midst too?

Because they were the one and only group fulfilling what God promised that time!

Aemmyjah:
A very strong conviction we have Jehovah's holy spirit
There are many religions in the world
Many have left their former religions and some were badly affected by what these religions did but you don't see all the lies and videos posted online and their attacks. Only Jehovah's Witnesses that you see an assembly of so called exJWs and the nonsense and lies they post online. They say the GB are New York businessmen of a book selling enterprise and own real estates and freemasons and part of the illuminati; they say we are selling all our halls, our numbers are going down, that we worship our website as an idolatry which is why it is pasted outside every kingdom hall but na dem de visit am pass, looking for updates and to find fault in what was written or said. See how they were celebrating when negative news came up in Norway, they were celebrating and telling lies about what could have caused it and said they'll drop more details. Later another update was dropped, stating why the country did that and the good news about what our appeal in the court had done for the good of the brothers. That news silenced their mouth or maybe they have not seen the updates but Jehovah deserves credit...
By means of the truth, Jehovah cleansed them and brought them into the light. Most of these ones were disfellowshipped, instead of accepting it, they fully handed themselves over to Satan. Satan can never let them rest, the Father of the lie is not idle, all Satan's agents are at work. That is what Jesus says that when one has been cleansed by demons did not submit to God's will, more powerful demons will invade him qmd their state will get worse... Initially, before they accepted the truth, they did things out of ignorance but imagine becoming a full-time servant by Jehovah to resist Jehovah and his people, posting lies about them. How and why should I even imagine being like them or one of them? People without peace in their lives, worse than atheists... Me, I have never read their articles, watched their videos or clicked the link or any writeup or comments here... Just like Saul lost Jehovah's spirit and became filled with Satan's spirit, he did not see any wrong in fighting Jehovah's anointed, David, even wanting to kill him... Nowhere will he hear that David was that he will not pursue him... From Jehovah's anointed king to Satan's agent, wanting to kill Jehovah's chosen one and even eliminating the priests and burning their cities cos of David. Haaaa... We know the same people who Satan is using reins to lead them... Ours is to keep doing Jehovah's will and with his spirit, we will succeed, no matter what any apostate, government, anyone or anything or Satan himself wants to do. I drop mic 🎤

Good morning my dear brothers MaxInDHouse, Cornelboy, and Janosky

Jesus has solve all the riddles:

“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens. Matthew 5:14-16

Let them present a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

“For this reason I say to you, every sort of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the spirit will not be forgiven. For example, whoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, no, not in this system of things nor in that to come." Matthew 12:31-32

How can you sin against Holy Spirit?

God has never foretold anything and fulfilled it using the NAME that could be stolen by Satan's agents so anytime God foretold something the names of those who will fulfill it are hidden from faithless miscreants and only the faithful can sense when God's Holy Spirit is WORKING!

I will site two instances:

John the baptist

God's word foretold that Elijah will come and prepare the way for the messenger bringing the new covenant {Malachi 4:5} so most Jews in the first century were looking out for Elijah {John 1:21} but Jesus who is a perfect servant of God told his listeners that John the baptist is the one who has fulfilled that role {Matthew 11:14} when Jesus said this even his own disciples never keep it to heart because by then they were just following him they haven't trusted him fully so when they finally identified Jesus as the real Messiah (Christ) they threw the question at him this time to know why Elijah has not come since Elijah should come first before the Christ {Matthew 17:10} instead of Jesus to say:
"weren't you there when i said John is the Elijah to come?"
Jesus told them that Elijah has come and the Jews has done what they like with him that's when his disciples now realized that John the baptist was the long awaited Elijah! Matthew 17:11-13

The second is Jesus Christ himself:
According to God's word the name Christ will be called is "Emmanuel" {Isaiah 7:14} so when the first century Jews saw Jesus they were confused because of the name he answers {John 1:45-46} the scriptures say the Christ will come from Bethlehem Ephrata {Micah 5:2} so Nathaniel was right Jesus shouldn't have been called a Nazarene, but another scriptures say the Christ will be called a Nazarene! Matthew 2:23
Well throughout Jesus' life and ministry most Jews never believed him in fact majority of those who formerly believe turned back from following him and never returned! John 6:66

So what helped his faithful disciples to stand firm to the end?

They were taking note of all the prophecies that were fulfilled in the ministry of Jesus so if anyone speaks against Jesus of Nazareth after witnessing the fulfilment of prophecies such a person is not blaspheming against Jesus rather he is sinning against God's Holy Spirit that's WORKING out what Jesus is doing!

Today how can someone sin or blasphem the Holy Spirit?

God's word foretold what His worshipers will be doing in our time so if you find any group PERFORMING EXCELLENTLY in fulfilling that prophecy but you choose to speak against them then you're not sinning against them but against God's Holy Spirit that's organizing imperfect humans to do what God wills!

cornelboy:
Lol when I said I don't want to engage you anymore but you incessantly mentioned and quoted me. As a sane person, shouldn't you stay away from my post?

I once told him that the hatred he has built in his heart against God's organization has damaged his brain but he thought it's just an insult back then.
How can a sane person keep typing day and night arguing about just one religious group yet you can't present any group that's doing better than them?
Do you notice how he's been trying to dodge the question i asked him?
He claims he believes in God the One who has always have representatives on planet earth.
Achorladey is only interested in false prophets he couldn't just mention one prophet of the God he believes today, he was talking about Moses as if during the time of Moses there was no false prophets if Moses was a prophet of your God in ancient time and there were false prophets back then how come you can only identify false prophets today but you can't present any real prophet now?

Ọmọ the hatred has turned him into an insane so he will continue following you from thread to thread claiming he wants to expose lies.

Note that he won't try such madness where right thinking individuals are discussing about how to IDENTIFY Jesus' real disciples but where mockers and faithless miscreants like him are trolling! Psalms 1:1

world123:
You are right, I want you to know that God is merciful. If you are determined to know the truth, he will be speak.

Let's consider Mark 7: 26-30, a conversation between Jesus and a Greek woman. He was not meant to heal people from her side. But the woman pleaded and Jesus healed her.

Let's looks at Luke 18: 1-7. These verses talks about asking for something without giving up; praying without ceasing. Trust me, if you are serious to know the truth, God will speak.

God Almighty is merciful.

Today God only speak to people who are in line with what Jesus taught:

Long ago God spoke to our forefathers by means of the prophets on many occasions and in many ways. Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things. Hebrews 1:1-2

That is what Malachi foretold when he said God will send His angels to go and note those deliberating on HIS name and His word {Malachi 3:16} for your information that's how your name can enter into the book of life {Revelations 20:15} Jesus expressly said that he will only be in the midst of two or three persons who are deliberating on how to do God's will {Matthew 18:20} so don't think God will speak with anyone today because God's word is complete {1 Corinthians 13:10} so it's through careful reading, diligent study, thorough meditation and fervent prayers we can listen to God not directly anymore!

Now back to the OP:

Does The Church You Attend Determine Your Salvation?
YES!
Because it's through your participation in doing God's will along with other faithful ones that you can be saved!

Note how it goes between Jesus and one Jewish young man.

The man has always kept God's laws but he doesn't want to forgo his prestige in order to join Jesus' group who were vilified and always humiliated back in the first century Jewish community.
Jesus declared that the man can't be saved! Luke 18:18-23

So it's compulsory we RECOGNIZED the group that's doing God's will today so that we can also contribute our quota no matter how little or much we can do! Matthew 25:40-46

achorladey:
Show me the lie. Just one
MaxInDHouse I repeat.......
Show me the lie here?

[1]
Since you opened this account you have never ever preached a single thing about your God or group of believers that's a sign you're an atheist!
[2]
You have consistently dropped comments only on threads where the topic has to do with Jehovah's Witnesses that's a sign you were disfellowshiped.
[3]
Ever since you noticed my powerful comments you've been following me from thread to thread as if i took away your bread sign that you hate the truth.
[4]
Up till today you can't present, point, mention any religious group that's practicing what you know as God's will sign that you purposely got annoyed with God and you just don't want to hear anything that will drag you back to God or worship again.

Now prove me wrong using your old posts in which you once preached about God or Jesus trying to convince someone that your God is GOOD!

AnAbnormalHuman:
I don't want to prove you wrong.

The Bible was written by Jehovah's witnesses,

This is what you should WORK on because it was the year 1931 that God's Holy Spirit revealed that name to God's organization after we have performed excellently in fulfilling what God promised regarding His worshipers in the endtime:

In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream. And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

If you agree that the Bible was written by Jehovah's Witnesses then you're getting close to your salvation because that's the name God called all His loyal servants {Isaiah 43:10} Jesus made it clear that during the endtime it will be difficult for lazy people to identify the group that's doing God's will {Matthew 24:11} but if you're faithful you will know them through their performance! Matthew 7:16-18

I am not saying you can't find some follow follow members in God's organization but whoever failed to recognize God's organization is doomed {Matthew 25:40-46} the reason is what Isaiah and Micah foretold regarding the performance of God's people in the endtime.

Read Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 again then try to meditate thoroughly because that is the reason why the true God began calling His organization by that hidden group name {Isaiah 65:15} after the borrowed name "CHRISTIANS" was bastardized by Satan's agents who hijacked it after the death of the apostles {Matthew 13:25} when Jesus returned in the year 1914 (as JWs said) he started looking for the group that's practicing what he laid down but there was none {Luke 18:8} the one and only group willing to make amendments that year is called the International Bible Students Association (IBSA) so Jesus began working with them until they're no longer part of the religions following Satan's system {Revelations 18:4} ever since then if anyone wants to be saved you will see all the evidences pointing to that organization as they're performing excellently in doing God's will as prophesied in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3

So the ORGANIZATION didn't just wake up with that name rather the true God is the ONE who began calling them by that group name after they have separated themselves from false religions destined for destruction! Isaiah 65:15

Thanks for your time!

achorladey:
Before you came into existence on this platform I dey live and breath

LIAR!

My first comment on this forum was in support of you before i discovered that you're only constituting nuisance without any purpose in the forum!

99.9999% of all the comments you've ever made on this forum is about Jehovah's Witnesses!

cornelboy:
I'm not obsessed with any specific person or group. I engage atheists, church goers, apostates etc So why are you obsessed with the JWs?

Because that's the one and only organization that is taunting him all others are just talking rubbish so he can hear them and quietly walk away but with JWs no!
We know what it takes to stab his unbelieving heart:

"For the word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints from the marrow, and is able to discern thoughts and intentions of the heart" Hebrews 4:12

So he can resist all others but not Jehovah's Witnesses!

cornelboy:
Are you ready for the challenge?

One year without mentioning the JWs here and we won't mention you.

Do you think you can do that?

He can't breathe without Jehovah's Witnesses, in fact he will die without Jehovah's Witnesses!

AnAbnormalHuman:
You know I've read a lot of y'all's backstory on this thread.

No one bows to you brother, you only
1. Divert from questions and points that are being made.
2. Re-explain scriptures to suit your taste.
3. Boast about your organization when people are trying to discuss something more important.
4. Categorize every other person as wrong before listening.
5. Exude an aura of pride that makes it irritating for people to continue a normal discussion
6. Claim that people's God is different from yours whenever you lack something substantial to use and counter their points.
7. Market your organization in the middle of a discussion.
8. Quote your organization, instead of the Bible.
9. Ask people not to ever communicate with you again after they make a valid point.
10. Ignore the parts you can't explain properly until later (or never).

Yep that's it.

YES!

Because the Bible was written by JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES so everything in it can only be applied to one organization: Jehovah's Witnesses.

If you want to prove me wrong name your religion and apply what your religion practice the same way i am doing with Jehovah's Witnesses!

AnAbnormalHuman:
Haha, you've forgotten me so quickly.
I wish I had your time.
Again, yh farewell.

Forgot who?

Ask about Jehovah's Witnesses anywhere there is no Churchgoer on this forum that doesn't bow before Jehovah's Witnesses when it comes to scriptural debates.
The worst you people can do is to run away when you can't quote God's word to back what you're saying!

Emusan:
So there is another NEW LIGHT in town on this
Who made the first mistake?
Well, you should have provided that as a counter statement. Those how an intelligent people do.
You don't even need anybody to tell you that what those Apostles did was an act of GENEROSITY. So you're wrong for saying what they did was EVIL.

Ọmọ trying to eradicate poverty among believers was EVIL that's why Jesus never tried it he left all of them they way they were but told them to continue praying for God's Kingdom where all their problems will be solved!

Emusan:
So where was it stated in the scripture that it's a sin?

It's a sin doing God's work without following the WAY Jesus laid down! John 14:6

If you want to make àkàrà or fùfú there's no sin anyhow you go about it but preaching and teaching about God's kingdom everyone must follow Jesus' footstep.

He said there's no prayers for those who hasn't accept us as God's representatives! John 17:8-9 compare to Proverbs 28:9; Jeremiah 11:14

I know you're pained each time we quoted God's word with efficacy to prove ourselves so take heart we are the worshipers of the Bible God!

AnAbnormalHuman:
You know, it's easier to argue when both parties are open to taking corrections (or at least accepting any Truth that is presented).
I know your style, you don't posses that quality. Else I would open the Bible with you for the next 3 hrs.

You that you don't even know what to quote!

Ọmọ you're free to run away but mind you we are fully competent and completely equiped to handle the Bible with efficacy so neither you nor all your pastors put together can withstand Jehovah's Witnesses in scriptural debates. Isaiah 54:17

Farewell!

Emusan:
Are JWs prophets?

My God always have representatives on this planet so Jehovah's Witnesses are the prophets of my own God today.

Now present day prophets of your own God if you truly believe in the God who sent prophets in Bible times!

AnAbnormalHuman:
Okay.
Just the same way Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong about every Church group.

That's what i want us to establish using the scriptures but it's obvious you just talk without considering what is written in God's word!

Emusan:
Where was it written in the Bible?

Can you quote where Jesus said his disciples should pray with or for the person they want to preach to?
In fact his own words shows that he only pray with those that has believe in him! John 17:8-9

Emusan:
Your statement is wrong because it's against Watchtower teaching.

Why not quote what Watchtower said of recent?
Oh you've forgotten that we do updates on what we know shey?

AnAbnormalHuman:
How wise do you sound?

Did I ever imply that I'm not interested in religion?
The fact that I'm not interested in your organization means I'm not interested in religion? 😂

Enough of the argument man. I'm outta here. I made my point and I can't take it back sorry.

You're wrong about JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that's all!