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advocatejare:
It’s not the foolish things you write that matter, it’s the truth: Russell left the Adventist cos of failed prophecy given in Adventist to establish his own movement/cult which you refer to as a religion, unfortunately the same cult is notorious for failed prophecies

Russell’s successor then decided to give the cult a new name and you’re saying that Russell is not the founder and you want to lie that Jesus founded the Jw organization and bought the Watchtower from the fraud called Russell, we asked you for proof and you have been crying like Egbere since then.

Your task is simple: show your proof from the Bible where Jesus claimed to have established a religion, where he named the religion JW, and where he bought the Watchtower from Russell

HISSCRIBE1995:
true talk sir .
thank you for this enlightment .

We practice exactly what our brothers in the first century taught and deed!

Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them. Romans 16:17

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works. 2John 1:10-11

Jesus commanded his disciples to treat anyone who refused to stick to the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} just as Jews treat tax collectors in the first century! Matthew 18:15-19

Your friend is one of them that's why i keep AVOIDING him!

paxonel:
are there any society anywhere dominated by such organized people?
What country or state is that, is it the kingdom hall or watchtower society or state or country?
mention it let's see if they have achieved a better society for themselves so far.

This is where most of you get things wrong.
The mindset is what you mentioned earlier and the society in which we live gives everyone freedom of EXPRESSION so you can't expect any society to be DOMINATED by people who wants to change their own mindset because it's a thing of PERSONAL decision not what could be imposed on others around you.

paxonel:
there is no amount of humanitarian service that can replace the roles of the family and child upbringing towards a better society

What we have today is produced by the families around us so if you want to trust the families to do this job then i'm sorry there can never be a peace loving environment because most families just wish their son or daughter gets rich at all cost.
You have said that people need to have a change of mindset:

paxonel:
I'm afraid, they can cause a negative impact on your very existence and there is nothing anyone can do about that.
The solution to it will depend on how the society breeds individuals with better mind-sets.The more of such people we have in our society the better

And that is what i'm telling you right now that an organized people are working round the globe to help honest hearted and sincere individuals to make the needed changes.
They can't force anyone because it's a matter of the HEART not the EYE where people are forced to do something whereas they haven't changed in their HEARTS!

Porksupplyib:
Exactly. It is of no relevance🤣🤣since you obviously can't answer. Keep deceiving yourself

Jesus has just one group doing his father's will and it's important we IDENTIFY that group in the midst of thousands of sects all claiming worshipers of God with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines!

johnw47:
Jesus never lied or blasphemed

That's what the New Testament writers and believers say but as for 99.9999% of Jews in the first century and today Jesus is a BLASPHEMER.
That's the accusation that led to his execution!

advocatejare:
Did Russell write the Bible? All the prophecies of Russell were false, non of them were fulfilled. MaxInDHouse from Rosulilah to Russel, deceptions to deceptions.

This is why i have been ignoring you because you keep on dwelling on matters that has been resolved.

How many times do i have to tell you that Russell is not the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization?
I even quoted a current member of the church practicing what Russell established for you to grasp that the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses totally preach and teach what differs from Russell's ideology yet you keep dragging the matter back as if you're on default mode!

https://www.nairaland.com/7844151/jesus-son-god-why-hell

I've been trying to drop the below comment in the above thread but Nairaland system is preventing me that's why i dropped it here.

There are lots of confusion about religion that we need unravel.
First of all Jesus never asked anyone to worship him rather he himself worshiped the God of his ancestors and told his friends that the God of his ancestors is the one and only true God who sent him:

"This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ" John 17:3

He referred to the God of his ancestors as his own God who is also the God his friends should worship:

Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

So Jesus never asked anyone to worship him the question we all need to figure out is:
Since all the tribes of the earth believe in the worship of deities, what is the purpose of religion or worship?

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Weretuntun:
IF YES, WHAT ESSENCE OF HIS LIVING AND CAUSING TROUBLE,COS I HEARD SPIRIT CANNOT BE DESTROY

That's why you need to study the Bible with the servants of the true God, they will teach you all you need to know.

But before then let me give you a tip of the iceberg!

There are lots of spirits in the spirit realm and the most powerful is their Creator who also knows how to DESTROY them.

The reason why God hasn't destroy the Devil is based on wisdom. Note that wise people will like to solve a problem once and for all time while the foolish will continue with problems half solved only for the problem to escalate into a bigger one.

Satan the Devil is just one intelligent being who turned out to become a rebel and many intelligent creatures including humans have also turned out to be rebels.

So God wants to keep a record of lots of rebellious acts carried out by both spirit beings and humans as evidence that they can never succeed in their attempt to gain absolute freedom rather what we all need is relative freedom having to do with the standard set by the SUPREME BEING: GOD!

With such a record God will instantly destroy any rebel that may come up after the destruction of Satan the Devil and all the evildoers we're seeing now!

Weretuntun:
CAN GOD TERMINATE DEVIL, FOREVER

YES!
And He will soon just be patient!

advocatejare:
MaxInDHouse from from Rosulilah to Russell, from deception pro to deception pro max You claimed that Jesus bought Watchtower from Russel Awada kerikeri, it’s takes imbecilic IQ to believe in such nonsense they teach you in that your useless cult

At least the so called "CULT" is the one and only organization of worshipers that successfully erased the making, buying, selling and using of weapons in the hearts of millions throughout the world {Isaiah 2:2-4} and they've also succeeded in recruiting millions throughout the earth to become zealous preachers and industrious teachers of the commandments {Matthew 28:19-20} made by the one and only Prince of Peace: Jesus Christ Isaiah 9:6
So it's a welcome development calling them a CULT because their founder already foresaw such long ago:

"A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10:24-25

The way you and your faithless friends have all become so restless due to the faith of Jehovah's Witnesses is undeniable evidence that their founder has been right all along:

“These things I command you, that you love one another. If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you. Keep in mind the word I said to you: A slave is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have observed my word, they will also observe yours. But they will do all these things against you on account of my name, because they do not know the One who sent me." John 15:17-21

It's just a pity that you failed woefully to IDENTIFY the one and only organization founded by the Prince of Peace himself! Act 1:8

paxonel:
I'm afraid, they can cause a negative impact on your very existence and there is nothing anyone can do about that.
The solution to it will depend on how the society breeds individuals with better mind-sets.
The more of such people we have in our society the better

there is nothing anyone can do about that.

society breeds individuals with better mind-sets.
The more of such people we have in our society the better

Your first highlighted comment shows a sign of hopelessness but the second shows there is something we can do.

However what will you say about an organized people aiming at achieving your second highlighted comment?

Do you think such an organization is rendering a humanitarian service to our world today or you will condemn their service all together due to some of their members still going through a rehabilitation process in their midst?

Transit to where?

Trinity is not written in the Bible.
There are lots of confusion about religion that we need unravel.
First of all Jesus never asked anyone to worship him rather he himself worshiped the God of his ancestors and told his friends that the God of his ancestors is the one and only true God who sent him:

"This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ" John 17:3

He referred to the God of his ancestors as his own God who is also the God his friends should worship:

Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

So Jesus never asked anyone to worship him the question we all need to figure out is:
Since all the tribes of the earth believe in the worship of deities, what is the purpose of religion or worship?

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

paxonel:
Your success in your career and ambition is absolutely dependent on you looking inwardly and remain focus in doing what you know how to do best.

Can the actions of others around you cause a negative impact on your very existence?

I'm asking because i think success doesn't just translate to material possessions only but the ability to maintain peace with other intelligent beings whose actions can affect you negatively.

People in ancient times also think they worship the same God yet they fight and kill one another over politits but God's own people stood out they were ORGANIZED as a people known for the name of their God:God of Abraham, God of Isaac and God of Israel.

The people do marry anyone they like without considering the devastating effect of different religions all claiming worshipers of God but the Israelites were warned by their God never to marry anyone who is not a worshiper of their own God.

That's how Esau lost it all by marrying women who aren't worshiping the same God his parents worship.

So today if anyone is not worshiping our God we are warned not to marry them such union is already built on a fault foundation.

May you have PEACE!

nor will people say, ‘See here!’ or, ‘There!’ "For look! the Kingdom of God is in your midst.” Luke 17:21

A kingdom means a Government to be head by a ruler who will have corulers with him in a government house so God's Kingdom means a government using God's system of rule:
THEOCRACY.

Jesus is God's choice to head that government (Kingdom) so anywhere Jesus is teaching he is inculcating in the minds of his listeners how to gain a Visa into that kingdom that's why Jesus uttered that statement at Luke 17:21.

Whoever wants a Visa into God's Kingdom only needs to obey whatever comes out from Jesus' mouth.

The day he was executed a thief was dying at his side with him, this repentant criminal told Jesus he's prepared to obey Jesus as King and instantly Jesus told that thief:

"I promise you today, you will be with me in PARADISE" Luke 23:43

To most religionists Jesus is going somewhere that day and taking that thief there but that is not the truth. Jesus was only telling the man that the man's Visa has been stamped that day when God's kingdom comes (to the earth) Jesus will see to it that all the needs of that man is taken care of in God's kingdom.

Wicked people will be forgotten in their graves {Psalms 9:17} that criminal has gotten the Visa from no other person but the King of God's kingdom himself: Jesus Christ!

HISSCRIBE1995:
the deception is too much ,so much that it will take the grace of god for anyone to come out from among them into light.

Deception is when you think you're on the same page with people whose line of thought regarding judgement negates yours!

According to the Bible God has destroyed many generations of faithless miscreants who thought they are OK in their own thinking but they never took note of what God's ORGANIZED people are doing.

For instance in Noah's day the only means of salvation was the Ark in which the ORGANIZED worshipers of the true God assembled.

During the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah it's wherever Lot goes with those in his company that's the means of salvation.

In Egypt when all firstborn were killed only those with God's ORGANIZED people were saved.

In Jericho Rahab knew that whoever is not on the same page with God's ORGANIZED people will perish and so it happened.

During the destruction of Jerusalem in 607 BCE whoever is not with God's ORGANIZED people will perish by the swords of Babylonians.

During the destruction of Jerusalem in 66 CE only those with God's ORGANIZED people were saved.

So if you're thinking God will save some in Deeperlife, Synagogues, Christ Embassy, C & S, Catholic, Anglican, Methodist, Apostolic Church, Apostolic Faith, C.A.C., Redeem, M.F.M., Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventist, Lord's Chosen, Foursquare and so on whereas all these religions contradicts themselves in the teachings that has to do with salvation then you're deceiving yourself big time.

Jesus Christ has just one group and it's one out of all these different religions claiming Christians therefore if you want to be saved all you need to do is figure out which of all these groups is doing God's will as His ORGANIZED people! Matthew 7:16-18

HISSCRIBE1995:
an organisation[religiously speaking] can only be a channel through which god reaches out to people ;they dont have the power to save people themselves.
how shall they call on him whom they have not heard ;how shall they hear without a preacher ;how shall they preach unless they are sent ?
so it is faith in god that saves a person not faith in an organisation .

So all those that perished during Noah's time none of them have faith in God shey?

Continue deceiving yourself, only those with God's ORGANIZATION will be saved just as it occurred in the days of Noah, in Sodom and Gomorrah, in Jericho and Amalek whoever is not with God's ORGANIZED people will perish!

Emusan:
because the forum was created for you alone!
Idiotic lying liar hallgoer miscreant

As big as this forum is you can't breathe without MaxInDhouse!

Ọmọ i don't have any business with you na you dey follow me up and down the forum!

Emusan:
Lying liar hallgoer miscreant.
Hallgoer miscreant: The name Christian is CURSED AND BASTARDIZED
Me: Are JWs now a Christian?
Hallgoer miscreant: YES!

Emusan:
Your stupidity didn't let you know when I put that to rest, as you don't even understand the OP OPONU ONIRO Oshi

Emusan:
That's Kumuyi cup of tea!
The truth is you're a shameless hallgoer miscreant who siad the name Christian is a CURSED AND BASTARDIZED yet claiming to be a Christian again.

Off point!

If you're not stupid then why quoting me since you're not here in defense of Mr Kumuyi?

That's exactly what i warned you about!

"Don't derail your thread"

You insisted you want to embark on a mission that will end your Nairaland journey, now you are ashamed to comment while i'm chatting with many as i wanted.
Your apostate friend knew i'm not hindered no matter what you think say or do as long as we have what it takes to convince any FAITHFUL person that's why he keeps following me to all the threads i go.

Stay locked in your delusion i'm chatting with interested ones whether you like it or not!

advocatejare:
You can continue to cry and wail from now till eternity, I won’t allow you to deviate, come and prove the lies you peddled

I’ll keep asking you until when you answer, I like the way I’m dragging your scrotum on this thread, I like the fact that you got frustrated at a point and you claimed that you weren’t going to comment anymore but when I dragged your scrotum further and exposed you for the liar that you are, you had to eat your vomit like a dog that you are to come back and make comments again

Coward army deserter MaxInDHouse, here is your task:

Who founded the JW organization: Jesus or Jehovah because you people are not consistent!

Show where that is written in the Bible that Jesus or Jehovah found a religion


Show where the name of the religion Jesus/Jehovah founded was called Jehovah’s Witness Organization in the Bible


You claimed that Jesus bought Watchtower from Russell: how much did Russell sell it to Jesus for, in what currency, cash or transfer, the document signed and who are those that witnessed the transaction, at what date?

Ken4Christ:
It's a very horrible state when you are in darkness and you are not aware of it.

EXACTLY what is happening to you right now!

Because only those in the light relate with the same kind of people but those in darkness don't even know where they are they just know they're somewhere hearing voices!

Emusan:
If you're not in pain and sad, you can't know this! Shameless hallgoer miscreant. The only person bitter is the one jumping from thread to thread claiming a name has been CURSED and BASTARDIZED, yet sneaks in to associate with the said name. See how a supposed lying military intelligence officer is constructing sentence.
Read the above again and tell me how it makes sense to you. Lying liar JWs hallgoer miscreant.

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni, Mr Kumuyi isn't expecting anything from those rulers he's just protecting his business center in Gbagada.
That's the truth!

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the atheist jw known for lying always.

Fool!
Going by what 98% of Jews in the first century concluded Jesus and his disciples are LIARS.
So when people say something is a lie or that someone is lying intelligent individuals go for proper investigations {1Thessalonians 5:21} because you can't say Mr A is a liar when Mr B, C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J aren't in agreement yet all saying A is lying!

cornelboy:
Hahahaha

I remember my grandpa who always say:

Behind a smile or tears may be bitterness or the joy of fulfilment but one who laughs all the time is disguising hiding pains in his heart!

So when someone comes with too many smileys that is a sign of defeat on his part!

advocatejare:
Thank you for exposing the coward compulsive liar called MaxInDHouse.
He is pained by all the things you have exposed about his useless cult group and his useless founder called Russell

Mr EXPOSER, So you're now done with exposing Allah, Muhammad, Muslims and Islam shey?

Ọmọ next time you heed to wise counsel from those who are experienced more than you!

Cry cry baby!

advocatejare:
You can continue to cry and wail from now till eternity, I won’t allow you to deviate, come and prove the lies you peddled

I’ll keep asking you until when you answer, I like the way I’m dragging your scrotum on this thread, I like the fact that you got frustrated at a point and you claimed that you weren’t going to comment anymore but when I dragged your scrotum further and exposed you for the liar that you are, you had to eat your vomit like a dog that you are to come back and make comments again

Coward army deserter MaxInDHouse, here is your task:

Who founded the JW organization: Jesus or Jehovah because you people are not consistent!

Show where that is written in the Bible that Jesus or Jehovah found a religion


Show where the name of the religion Jesus/Jehovah founded was called Jehovah’s Witness Organization in the Bible


You claimed that Jesus bought Watchtower from Russell: how much did Russell sell it to Jesus for, in what currency, cash or transfer, the document signed and who are those that witnessed the transaction, at what date?

Like all other business owners within Nigeria today Mr Kumuyi only wanted to secure a fine standing with the ruling party otherwise he may begin to have serious issues with those in high places that's exactly what gave the other businessman in alagbado a heart attack and eventually led to his death.
So Mr Kumuyi is only playing safe!

You rightly quoted Paul when he said:

"So faith follows the thing heard. In turn, what is heard is through the word about Christ". Romans 10:17

Before saying this Paul said:

"However, how will they call on him if they have not put faith in him? How, in turn, will they put faith in him about whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach? How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent out? Just as it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who declare good news of good things!” Romans 10:14-15

So i ask you again: what is the name of that group sent to PREACH to you so that you now claim you have the same kind of FAITH Paul is talking about?

I know you are dreaming of MaxInDhouse now as if i caused your frustrations!

I warned you not to enter into this journey but you're just like a stupid god that barks at whatever passes, now all your threads has been abandoned today is 19th of September the last comment on all your threads apart from this one dated back to August.

You've not only derailed all other thread but all has been ABANDONED because of the one and only organization shining as light that can never be hidden. Matthew 5:14-16

Guy take heart, that's what happens when you venture to malign God's organization! Matthew 12:45

advocatejare:
Coward army deserter MaxInDHouse
Who founded the JW organization: Jesus or Jehovah because you people are not consistent! Show where that is written in the Bible that Jesus or Jehovah found a religion
Show where the name of the religion Jesus/Jehovah founded was called Jehovah’s Witness Organization in the Bible
You claimed that Jesus bought Watchtower from Russell: how much did Russell sell it to Jesus for, in what currency, cash or transfer, the document signed and who are those that witnessed the transaction, at what date?

Ken4Christ:
There are points of agreement on major doctrines especially one that bothers on salvation. But JW oppose virtually every truth of the scripture. They are anti Christ.

There is nothing like agreement if you people disagree to render worship the same way!

Jesus established just one group of preachers and teachers so as long as you people disagree on how to go about the assignment all of you are workers of iniquity.
Matthew 7:21-23
Go and check the meaning of INIQUITY it simply means DISAGREEMENT on terms and conditions of doing things!