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Thandiubani:
Moses married Zipporah. Boaz married Ruth. Solomon married uncountable foreign women. Abraham married Keturah. Judah married Shu'a the Canaanite. Joseph married Asenath, daughter of the Egyptian priest Potiphera. These are Israelites who had good relationship with God marrying foreign women and God didn't throw them away because of that. See Solomon own na.

God instructed his worshipers to marry only among his worshipers that's what Apostle Paul meant! 1Corinthians 7:39

So if you're not a member of my faith we can do so many things as neighbours but when it comes to marriage then it must be only among those with whom we have the same faith.

That's what we are saying now!

RussellRutherfo:
You failed English.

English isn't putting food on my table o!

Hubeznigeria:
Is Michael the only Archangel you were taught?

Please quote where another angel is referred to as Archangel.
Thanks in advance!

AllenSpencer:
I agree with your explanation.
Well stated.
Calling him the Almighty God is what I disagree with.

Jesus can't be the Almighty God as he begged for his life:

During his life on earth, Christ offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the One who was able to save him out of death, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear! Hebrews 5:7

So who saved him if he is the ALMIGHTY?

AllenSpencer:
Meaning he is also a god like me and you. He is not God How can a God be calling on his father? Does God have a father?

It's translators that used the upper and lower case when translating the title "GOD" Moses was God {Exodus 7:1} many others were also referred to as Gods {Psalms 82:6} so when the same Bible said "the word (Jesus) was God" {John 1:1} it simply means that Jesus is the promised prophet who is coming in the manner of Moses {Deuteronomy 18:18} both Moses and Jesus served as Prophet and God in their lifetime.
But trinitarians just want to blind themselves to this fact only to start saying Jesus is the same God who sent himself!
Well Jesus has cleared the whole thing when he told a disciple that he is going back to his father who is our father and his God who is also our God! John 20:17

Aemmyjah:
Wow
You can use a fish hook to catch an insect

I don't know how some people are just stupid!
A book was written by Israelites and we never knew any of the writers now someone is saying the older ones dating more than 3,500 years are truth but the ones dated back to 2,000 years or less are false.
How did he know?
Some people claiming "Jews" told him but instead of him to discard everything written by Israelites he gullibly chose to believe the older and started condemning the ones written later claiming the writers weren't known.
Please did he know Moses, Joshua, Samuel, David or Isaiah?

Aemmyjah:
They (faithless miscreants) are parasites
They can't build their own faith or other's faith
Let they keep wailing and gnashing their teeth
Jehovah's chariot is on the move
Soldier ants cannot stop a fast-moving train

The truth!

sonmvayina:
It is a story...
That's why they where written in the third person...
The authors never said who they are. It was the Catholic church who added those titles...

The same goes for the Bible, Torah and Tanack all are stories so stop calling people idolaters simple because they don't follow your choice of beliefs.

sonmvayina:
Define miracle..?
You can pick and choose when to apply your idea...it has to be the same all through..

Miracle is what God does that doesn't follow logic so when it occur you find it really difficult to figure out how it happened.

sonmvayina:
So Joseph stored "God mating with his wife in his brain"? You really don't want to learn anything...

Is there any miracle found in the Bible that you believe?

What is the purpose of Christianity according to Jesus himself?

cornelboy:
Bitcoin

The Jehovah witnesses are the only true Christians today. There's nothing you can do about it.

Ọmọ 82 interested ones females 41 males 41 DEDICATED their lives to our God and they are prepared to serve in all their neighbourhood as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES as they got BAPTIZED today.
So let faithless miscreants go and hug a transformer jọọ that's their cup of coffee!

sonmvayina:
Ntchew....
Rubbish ...
I thought you had a good evidence..
The gospels are the claims...
Back them up with evidence..

Ọmọ whatever we found WRITTEN can't be discarded as long as we never lived during the time it was thought to have occurred.
So everything in history should be discarded since we never lived by the time of it's record all written documents are false.
Do you agree?

@Sonmvayina
So your god can't bless you unless everyone around you believe what you believe shey?

Are you sure it's still the same God that saved only Noah and his children?
Are you sure it's the same God who blessed Israelites in Egypt?
Are you sure it's the same God who saved Rahab in Jericho?

HISSCRIBE1995:
my question is
1. " why do you people chose to reason with sentiment above scriptures?"

According to Paul anyone contemplating on what is written without considering how it will be practically applied is not a believer:

"who has indeed adequately qualified us to be ministers of a new covenant, not of a written code, but of spirit; for the written code condemns to death, but the spirit makes alive".
2Corinthians 3:6
So it's the SPIRIT that matters which energizes adherents to act not just arguing on LETTERS when you can't present those applying what you're quoting in a practical sense.
Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis were constantly arguing with Jesus over what is written but can they present any group practicing what they're teaching?
NO!
That's why Jesus presented his own disciples! Matthew 12:46-50

HISSCRIBE1995:
2. "why do you focus mostly on winning christians than preaching to people of another faith like : muslims,traditionists,etc ? "

Who are the so called CHRISTIANS?
Because real disciples of Christ has an assignment that Jesus gave them and it's only the group ACTIVELY DOING it that matters not just those claiming they believe in Jesus by mouth! Matthew 15:8-9

HISSCRIBE1995:
3. have your ever been bothered by your conscience that you are preaching falsehood because you could see some issues that are not psychologically rational nor are they biblical but contradicts the minds of the scriptures. eg . blood transfusion issue . 2. anyone who is not a jehovah witness is not righteous .i stop here.

FAITH is what binds believers together as one {John 17:22} so it doesn't mean we must agree with you as long as we have the same line of thought on what we got in the Bible and we are actively practicing what we preach!

Caveatemptor:
You are a fraudulent character. We are talking about alphabets(ABC) but you will twist and be talking of numerals (123). Where is the correlation?
Like I said, I have taken enough rubbish from you for one day.
Phew!

Like i care, shey?

Ọmọ nah you dey find me nah Maximus doesn't even know you exist!

HISSCRIBE1995:
can you point out where i used abusive speech or language in any of our conversation on this thread?

Guy what is your question?

Caveatemptor:
You keep arguing round and round in circles. Your arguments are so infantile that I sometimes feel ashamed for you. You are arguing based on blind faith and emotions. Never rationality, never engaging your brain. Just going round in circles based on myths, fears and delusion fed you since your birth.
I think I am done with you for today there is a limit to the amount of rubbish I can take from you for a day.
Phew!

Perhaps you need many story tellers from different geographical locations to convince you that the Wright brothers once walk on this planet or you need story tellers to convince that Benjamin Franklin is a real person.

Ọmọ it's what they were able to discover that serves as the living evidence of their existence not what someone say about them today.

If you're seeing ELECTRICITY know that you're seeing Benjamin Franklin and if you're seeing AEROPLANES know that you're seeing Wright brothers in the same manner if you're seeing JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES preaching zealously and teaching industriously in your neighbourhood about a global family of peace then know that Jesus was a real person. Period!

Caveatemptor:
There is no advise you can give me,rather I would advise you because where your knowledge ends is where my knowledge begins. Instead of arguing with me argue with the anonymous unknown writers of your religious book. I quoted and referenced passages from your so called book of a deity showing support for misogyny, rape,human sacrifice, destruction of entire civilisations,looting,incest,stealing,murder and soft pornography amongst many other vices.

Guy i'm not your problem so if you won't accept the Bible that's your own cup of coffee you can't stop others from believing in God's word neither can you stop me from teaching interested ones.

So if you truly want to have a meaningful discussion just tell me exactly what you want to know here and i will address you like a real gentleman but if you're bent on insulting your audience i will leave you with them!

Caveatemptor:
Having a discourse with you is just an exercise in futility. It is like talking with a personality that lives in his own parallel universe. It is like banging my head on a concrete wall because you always argue in a circular way.
So because me and you were not born 2,000 years ago,we cannot arrive at the truth or a semblance of the truth? This your circular argument even shows the bible to be untrue and a book of falsehood since me and you were not there when the book was written. You see how senseless circular reasoning leads to anarchy because it means any book written before anyone is born cannot be investigated or verified.
Once again,"You are a fraud!" None of the gospel writers was an eyewitness to the stories they wrote. None of the names of the writers on the gospels are real names,they are pseudonyms. Mark was the first written gospel which Mathew,Luke and John copied and embellished with material from other sources. This accounts for the contradictions and differences in the stories.

Ọmọ since you and i aren't there the only way to figure out the truth is the BENEFIT gained.

If someone say your great grandfather was a blacksmith but none of his descendants practice such a profession it may be difficult to agree that you had such a person as ancestor.
But what if you now find some of his children whose lineage has become experts in that field surely it will make no sense arguing that your great grandfather never existed.

Jesus is the promised Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} and according to what is found written in the gospels his disciples will serve as evidence that he existed {Act 1:8} so if by today a big and happy family of peace loving worshipers suffice on this same planet and they are using what Jesus taught to accomplish this then whoever say Jesus never existed should tell us how come a global family of peace loving worshipers came about in a world that's filled with violence! Revelations 6:3-4

Jesus never said it's the record of his story that will serve as prove that he once walked this planet rather this is what he said:

"But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:8

Ọmọ use your brain nah!

If Jesus' story was fabricated did the fabricators also force millions of people from different geographical locations on this planet to agree with their fabrication and live as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers in the name of Jesus of Nazareth?

Guy with the emergence of Jehovah's Witnesses there's no further need of scrutiny Jesus is a real historical figure!

Aemmyjah:
How many?

Total 82
41 Males
41 Females

Caveatemptor:
[b]You are a fraud.

No wahala i just want to advise you but since it's getting on your nerves please do whatever you like, it's your thread!

Caveatemptor:
This is why I always call you a fraud. Any one with an iota of sense knows that any program labelled, "for dummies. " is NOT an insult but a learning program.
For Dummies is an extensive series of instructional reference books which are intended to present non-intimidating guides for readers new to the various topics covered. The series has been a worldwide success with editions in numerous languages.

If you want response from intelligent individuals then address them well!

https://www.nairaland.com/7851138/god-really-omnipotent-omnipotent-paradox

I wanted to respond to the above thread but i was restricted.
Here is my comment:

God can't do evil so He is not omni-potent.

Caveatemptor:
This is why I always say,"You are a fraud!"
You know what you are writing is false. None of the four Christian gospels bear the real names of their writers. They are only pseudonyms. The writers of the four canonical gospels are all unknown. The leaders of the early Christian Church choose to ascribe names of disciples to the gospels for reasons best known to them.
Desist from these lies!

According to the Bible each writer signed by his own personal name so if you heard another thing contrary to this just calm down because neither you nor i nor the one who told you nor the one who told me lived 2000 years ago when all these things were thought to have happened.

Caveatemptor:
Here is the thread that I opened on the issues. They all ran away or pretended not to see. Those that chose to engage were only being insultive and abusive. No answers to the thread becauseI quotedspecificbible passages.
https://www.nairaland.com/7841230/bible-101-dummies

You want humans like you to engage you but you referred to them as "dummies"
Are you wise or foolish?
If you see someone by the road side calling:

"Idiots! Idiots! Come here i have questions for you!"

No matter how stupid you're will you respond to such a mannerless caller?

Busybrain2233:
That means a soul could mean a thing to Mr. A and means another to Mr. B
So In that case soul is whatever you call it to mean right?

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaa it simply means what is so dear to you so when you are worried about the future of your child others care less because to them your child means just anybody else out there.

God view anyone related to His people as a dear soul but regarding faithless people they are just walking corpse!

Busybrain2233:
Identified as what?

Someone or something you know not just as a creature but by name.
You dog is just a dog to Mr Akpan (Calabar) and Mr Ẹ̀gin (Òndó) because to both of them dog simply means "meat" but to you your dog is more than just a dog so if anyone should kill your dog you won't welcome the idea of a replacement because you have known your dog as a pet and member of your house whose absence will be felt by everyone in the house.

That's what a SOUL means!

Busybrain2233:
I have told you before, I don't know anything about soul, I only lack belief in the existence of a soul, because I can't point to it. But if you claim to have knowledge about SOUL mind you I'm not talking about your belief on soul o!!!, I'm talking about your Knowledge on it. Then provide evidence for your claim.

Soul means a creature that is identified .

For instance your dog is a soul!

LordReed:
So an embryo is a complete human being? An embryo that has no brain or any other organs is a complete human being?

Please imagine a woman of about 65 years old who has lost all hope of having her own child as everyone keeps mocking and calling her a barren witch but somehow she did it with one of her male servants and after all the humiliation the doctors confirmed that she has conceived and it's two weeks old.

How would she view anyone whose mistake happens to destroy the embryo in her womb?
Will she take it as just an embryo or her only child?

sonmvayina:
So name one person who actually saw him and what he wrote about him ?
In the first person....not reported speach...

Matthew and John were two of his friends whom he called "apostles" both of them penned down what they saw him did and heard from him!

If the Romans fabricated Jesus when they are ruling the world are they still in power today?
So why is it that the whole world is using dates agreed upon as the era when Jesus was born?
Well anyone can believe anything as long as they're avoiding the greatest evidence that Jesus walked this planet: His Witnesses! Act 1:8