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APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

Even Yorùbá people say:

"Bí ọmọdé bá rí oyin á sọ àkàrà nù"

"When a child tastes honey he will trash bean cakes"

You can't call for the ban of religions when you haven't produced anything better.

True Christianity knows that God will deal with false religions in His own time what we do is change people to peaceful citizens everywhere they are so as friends of the Prince of Peace people everywhere knows us to be peaceful!

lawani:
I am online here doing my bit to make the world better and part of what I am doing is push for a ban on the public practice of Christianity and Islam. It is easy to demonstrate they add nothing positive to civilization and that what they add is misery. The government can not just do something. Some people must first push for it and nobody is too small to push for anything. Do your bit and providence will take care of the rest

lawani:
It is only the government that can do that in a bid to stop the atrocities of religion. That is not the responsibility of IFA priests.

And the government says there is freedom of expression speech and religion, the only clause is when you are calling for the ban of other religions or fighting against them instead of waiting for the government to do their work!😀

elated177:
Stop confusing yourself, maxindhouse. You need to go back and the post of mine that you quoted and responded to.

There is no confusion here your God and mine differ simple as ABC!🙂

It's good to share what we have with our fellow believers:

For if the readiness is there first, it is especially acceptable according to what a person has, not according to what a person does not have. For I do not want to make it easy for others, but difficult for you;  but that by means of an equalizing, your surplus at the present time might offset their need, so that their surplus might also offset your deficiency, that there may be an equalizing.  Just as it is written: “The person with much did not have too much, and the person with little did not have too little.” 2Corinthians 8:12-15

This is what true Christians practiced in the first century and till today true followers of Christ are still practicing it.
That is why you will never see a beggar in the midst of God's people {Psalms 23:1; 37:25} as we won't give just one man all the gifts while many members of the same religion can't afford to eat.

Jesus taught his disciples to share things equally among themselves that is why he had nothing by the time he died but his disciples kept growing in number and they continue sharing things equally among them because they don't want anyone to lack too much when another is extremely rich through the giving that is happening among them!🙂

lawani:
As at over twenty years ago, Cuba alone had over 100k registered Awos and Cuba is maybe ten million people.

Let them come and help you ban other religions in Nigeria if they get the liver!🤣

lawani:
As is often said 'When it is free, you are the product'.

Until your ifa is able to gets dedicated worshipers throughout the planet it will remain a dead god. Psalms 115:4-8🙂

elated177:
Maxindhouse, you are to blame for not understanding my comment. It is not my fault.

Well you understand your own god, Sha!

Continue deceiving yourself!

Can you mention one religion that does not talk about punishment for evil deeds?🤣

Kushites:
You this guy and your lies.
And you lie with smiling emojis.
YOUR OWN AFRICAN TRADITIONAL SPIRITUALITY threatens NO punishment for those of other belief systems and religions. Neither does Buddhism, Shintoism, Taoism or Hinduism. Only Islam and Christianity.

Who established those fields?
It's humans not God that's why those who are involved need money to survive but what belongs to God doesn't need your money that's why we are to share it free because we got it freely.

lawani:
True and real knowledge does not pursue anybody. You have to pursue it. Have you ever seen real and valuable knowledge being taught for free on a large scale? Medicine? Engineering and etc? It does not happen. You have to go after it. I however volunteer and I have been teaching on this platform but it is never the norm

lawani:
Diviners don't claim to hear voices in their heads. They have tools and they can teach you how to use those tools.

Start teaching whoever is interested in such rubbish here i am ever ready to teach whoever wants to learn about the true God we don't ask anyone to come and pay any fee whoever is demanding fees before rendering service that's not visible is a scammer!🙂

All of you are scammers!🤣

Voices heard from the spirit realms are demons and they speak to whoever wants to hear them so if all these religion are hearing from the spirit realms what makes yours special?🙂

lawani:
A diviner is an academic spiritualist. They can teach anybody their methodology of hearing from the spirit realm. Religionists claim to hear voices in their heads. A true Babalawo, well trained have no reason to be a scam artist

So what makes your babalawo more of a better scam than pastors, prophets and alfas?🙂

lawani:
It is more difficult to qualify as an ifa priest than to qualify as a lawyer. You learn divination methods which is no different from learning accounting methods. I wonder why you say a Babalawo is not a professional because that is not true.

Guy, stop lying.
Your ifá is not a doctor or lawyer rather a spiritual consultant something no one can see any evidence of it other than just to BELIEVE!🤣

lawani:
When any expert give you advise, it is always accompanied by subtle threats against non compliance. This includes doctors, lawyers and etc

So they can also issue threat to people and does such threats has anything to do with you seeing the gods for yourself or it's just the priest that will tell you what is going to happen if you don't believe in his so called "ẹbọ"?😀

lawani:
There are quacks in any profession. It is not possible for a real IFA priest to ask you to do ebo when you did not come for consultation. They can advise you to go for consultation though. In any case they will never issue threats about the afterlife. They can issue threats to those who refuse to do ebo but the threats have nothing to do with the afterlife

LIE!

There are many cases where the priest talks to close relatives of the person it has happened many times that someone will visit the priest only for the priest to start talking about a relative of his customer.
So do you think the one who disbelieve such a vision won't be punished?🤔

lawani:
Are you now saying a Babalawo will ask someone to do ebo without the person coming for consultation? That is wrong. The warning to do ebo is only for those who voluntarily go for consultation and not anyone else

Mirasteel:
You are wrong, Auchi is majority muslims, those traditionalist reverted to Islam long ago and now the people don't want anything to do with idol worshipping, what's wrong?

I only want to tell you what is wrong with the way false religionists do attack other religions around them.
If your Allah is real you should allow the Allah to punish the unbelievers at least your Allah is God according to you so why must you do it's work imagine if the ancestors of that land refuse to welcome other religions do you think your Allah will have worshipers among them?🤔

Is it possible for the ifá priest to see the calamity through his oracle and reveal to a close relative of the unbeliever?

YES.

So it's not only those who believe in your ifá that your ifá used to see visions for just as it applies to all other religions and whoever disregard your ifá is called an unbeliever!🙂

lawani:
No it means refusing to heed the advise of the ifa priest. Refusing to do ebo. Why would you go to an IFA priest if you want to refuse to heed the advise? Would you go to a lawyer while not wanting to heed his counsel?
In any case there is a well known Olofin called Olofin Adeja who was known for never heeding the advise of ifa priest. Nothing untowards happened to him.
If you go to a Babalawo you would be advised to do ebo for your own good and you would be warned there would be consequences if you don't but not in the afterlife as you seem to think

lawani:
We are talking of punishment for evil which is rational not punishment for unbelief which is clearly irrational.

You are a liar!

In ifá unbelief is called "ẹ̀já" Yorùbá will say "ó ń d'ẹ́jà" meaning the person does not or refuses to believe and there is punishment for such according to ifá.

So stop deceiving yourself!🙂

lawani:
Can you show me a video clip or even text from someone who is neither Muslim nor Christian saying people will be punished by God for unbelief? Even Jews don't do it. Their laws apply to only them and they don't necessarily preach hell.

Hell means Grave so everyone is going there after death but punishment after death for evil deeds is what all religions and spirituality preaches!🙂

lawani:
What now are the spiritual practices who don't fight anyone at all and don't preach damnation for unbelievers? I think they are the true peaceful people. Islam and Christianity are of war, disagreements and strife

LIE!
There is no religion or spirituality that does not preach damnation for unbelievers!🙂

lawani:
There is nothing wrong in preaching punishment for evil. What is wrong is preaching punishment for unbelief.

Here you go again with self deception!😀
Ọmọ you need to know the meaning of that word "BELIEVE" it simply means "TRUST" so if you are preaching that there is punishment for evil deeds what happens to UNBELIEVERS who keeps doing evil thinking there is no punishment?😀

lawani:
Most cultures don't believe in a one off existence. They believe in reincarnation

So how does that exempted punishment for evil?
In reincarnation it's taught that evildoers will be punished by reincarnating as pigs or ants and other creatures.
So all races believe in punishment for the evil deeds people does now therefore you are only lying to yourself claiming all religions are evil simply because you want to promote your lies that worthless, hopeless, useless and good for nothing ifá should be forced down the throat of everyone but you will be shocked that by the time all religions are banned even your ifá will be categorized as another religion.
Meanwhile there are liars like you using different methods to extort money from people some claims to be Alfa, Prophet, Guru and so on all of them are hiding under the flag of spiritual consultants.
So by the time religion is banned don't think such thieves will be allowed to continue operating o!🙂

Kamalex2:
Islam is coming to dominate the world insha allah🙏

The most hilarious joke ever about Islam is how you people kill one another when there is misunderstanding among you so think of how your greeting "SALAM" will work among you when you can't even cohabit peacefully among yourselves!🙂

You love lying to yourself a lot.

All people believe in the day of judgment from God but only true believers do not put God's judgement in their hands they truly believe God will do the right thing at the right time!🙂

lawani:
You don't attack but you issue threats saying they will cease to exist while the chosen few will live forever in paradise. It is more or less the same illogical position

PathofLogos:
That is another vantage point.

Among real Christians you won't know any of us that's donating high or low you can only sense by knowing our worth in person but among us there is no announcement regarding who donates neither do we have class among us.

One point that matters most is we don't usually give street beggars money rather we take good care of our fellow believers {Deuteronomy 15:7} so you can't see a beggar among us! Psalms 23:1

lawani:
There is nothing wrong in idol worshipping and it should be illegal to harass idol worshippers. For peace to reign, Christianity and Islam should be banned from the public space. All they have added to humanity is misery

I always tell you to remove that veil that is covering your eyes.
True Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) will never ever attack anyone no matter what you believe we will respect you as an individual whose right it is to choose whatever religion he or she likes!🙂

sonmvayina:
ok, so you want somebody that will agree with your lies, because the truth makes you uncomfortable.
carry on brother...

Truth unites honest hearted people and makes them One {John 17:22} it's lies that can never ever unite people that is why you can never ever find any group of people sharing your ideology you will continue insulting people because nobody will agree with your lies.

And mind you you are not my brother you can't be my brother and you can never ever be my brother you and i are NEIGHBORS!🙂

First of all Christianity and Islam had the support of our colonizers because both religions firmly established their faith by coming together to build worship centers. My advice for traditionalists is to form a group and register their place of worship just as the churches and mosques are doing so by the time anyone attacks their place of worship it will not be just one person demanding justice but the whole association of worshipers using the worship center.
Imagine if a senator, member of the reps, governor, local government chairman or minister to the federal government worships with you do you think anyone could just walk up to your place of worship and burn it down?
Well i think it's because traditionalists are only doing this thing the wrong way if they are well recognized in the society whoever touches their place of worship will surely face the wrath of the law!

Nigeria should be a country for freedom of expression, speech and worship not a one religion state.😟

Is the giver a follower of Jesus?

Remember that when quoting Jesus only those who believe in him can take his words seriously many people took him for a nuiSance in the first century that is among those who understands his language not to talk of people living over 2,000 years after Jesus has gone! Matthew 7:6😟

PathofLogos:
I saw a video on YouTube this morning, where someone was giving a vulcanizer "giveaway" and the camera was right in the man's face.

Matthew 6:4 is clear: “Your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.”

Why must we use people's poverty to chase clout on TikTok?

If you can't help a person without your phone being out, you're not serving God—you're just an "influencer."

The moment you post it for the "Gram" or "X," you've already collected your reward in likes.

God doesn't owe you anything again.

Why is it so hard for people to help in silence these days? Is the "Well Done" from strangers that important?

annyplenty:
To God be the glory. Please share. Knowledge beget knowledge.

Most people takes the words written in Revelation word for word forgetting that it was a message from God which was given to Jesus Christ who also sent an angel to present these messages to John the apostle IN SIGNS Revelation 1:1

Why did Jesus send the angel to present it in signs?

The reason is to refrain Satan's agents from getting the understanding of this message {Daniel 12:10} since God's word will be made available for everyone Jesus used the same method he used in the first century by teaching his disciples with many illustrations {Matthew 13:13, 34} but due to the humble spirit of his real disciples Jesus will make them understand the message {Matthew 13:36} it's this same Jesus who gave this message to that angel so we should be careful not to think we can understand it by reading alone because Jesus only promised to guide us when we come together for the purpose of learning from him! Matthew 18:20

Chapter 6 of Revelation shows how Jesus started conquering all enemies of truth right from heaven, he will restore pure worship among faithful and humble people so that they start preaching and teaching from house to house and door to door gathering disciples for Jesus throughout the earth this is another aspect where Jesus keeps on conquering Satan {Rev 6:1-2 compare to 12:7-12} after sending Satan and his demons out of heaven these evil spirit creatures moved to planet earth and the earth felt their presence immediately. Remember that they are rebellious angels in heaven so by the time they arrived on planet earth they went straight for high positions among humans each choosing a territory for himself and the next thing is possessing human rulers which led to disagreement among world rulers globally hence the first world war {Rev 6:3-4 compare to Matthew 24:7} Jesus said the wars will be a beginning of trouble on earth {Matthew 24:8} after the wars world rulers will continue to anticipate more wars due to revenge and counter revenge so they will think less about the welfare of their subjects as a larger part of their expenditure will go for making, buying and training able body men against future occurrence of wars this is the reason why underdeveloped and developing countries will experience shortage of food these will have little affect on beauty products since Satan wants to promote immorality globally {Matthew 24:7 compare to Rev 6:5-6} next thing is different kinds of sicknesses will follow due to malnutrition and STDs leading to death of people in mass {Matthew 24:12 compare to Revelation 6:7-8} these will continue and the generation that witnessed all these events will not pass away before the end of this system of things come so Jesus' real disciples will be preaching and teaching people throughout the globe baptizing them and making them preachers and teachers of God's word! Matthew 24:14 compare to Matthew 28:19-20

So how are we going to get our names written in the book of life so as to escape the (lake of fire) second death? Revelation 20:14-15

The last book in the Old Testament told us:

At that time those who fear Jehovah spoke with one another, each one with his companion, and Jehovah kept paying attention and listening. And a book of remembrance was written before him for those fearing Jehovah and for those meditating on his name. Malachi 3:16

Going by the highlighted in red it's only those preaching the kingdom message and those studying the Bible with them that will be written in God's memory book for the reward of everlasting life. No wonder Jesus laid more emphasis on the preaching and teaching work saying it's only those believing in him that can be saved {John 3:16} because they will be equipped for good works! 2Timothy 3:14-17

God bless you and may you have peace!🙂

Pẹ̀lẹ́ tìẹ jàre.

I don't have time for your back and forth worthless arguments i'm only seeking honest hearted people not dishonest argumentator like you!😀

sonmvayina:
Because it is idolatry, Everything God forbids in his laws is what Christianity is built on.....

Before his arrest and execution Jesus told his disciples that:

he (Jesus) must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes and be killed. Matthew 16:21

He warned them not to intervene when the destruction of Jerusalem happens:

“However, when you see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies, then know that the desolating of her has drawn near. Then let those in Ju·deʹa begin fleeing to the mountains, let those in the midst of her leave, and let those in the countryside not enter into her,  because these are days for meting out justice in order that all the things written may be fulfilled.  Woe to the pregnant women and those nursing a baby in those days! For there will be great distress on the land and wrath against this people. And they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled. Luke 21:20-24

Jesus told his friends that the blood of faithful servants of God from Abel till Zachariah will be asked in the hands of the inhabitants of Jerusalem {Luke 11:49-51} and just as Jesus foretold he was arrested and executed right in Jerusalem where many Jews were telling the Roman governor who wanted to release Jesus:

“To the stake with him!” Matthew 27:23

That day the pagan Roman governor said to the Jews:

“I am innocent of the blood of this man. You yourselves must see to it." Matthew 27:24

This is what the Jews said in response to this pagan ruler:

“Let his blood come upon us and upon our children." Matthew 27:25

So when the Roman armies were leading Jesus to the place where he will be executed he said to women shedding tears for him:

“Daughters of Jerusalem, stop weeping for me. Weep instead for yourselves and for your children; for look! days are coming when people will say, ‘Happy are the barren women, the wombs that did not give birth and the breasts that did not nurse!’  Then they will start saying to the mountains, ‘Fall over us!’ and to the hills, ‘Cover us over!’ If they do these things when the tree is moist, what will occur when it is withered?” Luke 23:28-31

So if anyone still doubts the gospel accounts let such a person bring back the Jews and give them peace as a nation because Jesus said God has condemned that nation! Matthew 21:43

Can you imagine that their children who were brought back to that place after the world wars still want to ban Christianity in Israel today?😟