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Jesus said a time is coming when Satan will pollute the true Christian group with his own agents {Matthew 13:25} after all the Apostles died this happened that is what John foresaw as the AntiChrist {1John 2:18} so today the separation work is ongoing as the only true Christian organization emerges out of thousands other religions claiming they are Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.

Do you wish to know the evidence of the one and only true Christian group?🙂

TenQ:
The evidence that abound in your organisation is well known and unbecoming for anyone who claims to be remotely connected to Christ.
Do you want me to give you evidences of countless P.E.D.O. lust existing within your esteemed members?

LOVE covers a multitude of sin {1Peter 4:8} after a public reproof a sinner is to be helped {2Corinthians 2:5-8} if he shows a repentant attitude so it's LOVE as Jesus commanded us that's working. John 13:34-35
Meanwhile there is no single religion out there that's free from such accusations.

What else do you have to say?🙂

LIE!
Can you honestly say Muhammad didn't tell his followers to fight and defend their country?😂

honesttalk21:
Don't just randomly state provide some reference as we should check based on you already misunderstanding the verses of the Bible you follow.

honesttalk21:
And you got nothing more to say.

Didn't Muhammad teach Muslims to fight for their country?
So Muslims in different lands will fight against Muslims claiming they are defending their country while Jehovah's Witnesses (true Christians) will never fight against our fellow believers instead we unitedly shun wrongdoers showing that there is no one on the side of the wrongdoer.
But as for Muslims each person supports his own tribe or race.
I'm just showing you where your religion lacks real logic!😀

honesttalk21:
Which group did prophet Muhammad pbuh belong to? What group did he recommend?

Muhammad belong to the group that takes racism more seriously than faith that's why racial discrimination easily affects your religion leading you people into hating, fighting and killing yourselves claiming it's land disputes!😂

honesttalk21:
Categorically tell how the worship practice of these groups vary regarding the core and fundamental tenets of Islam.

Lie!
All of you are following your blind leader {Luke 6:39} who wants to establish a religion but failed woefully to erase tribalism among you people!😂

honesttalk21:
Simply shunning wrong doers tends to encourage such practice. In a bid to shun you allow social disorder.

It's among God's people that we shun out there are people like you to deal ruthlessly with them instead of humbly begging they will be complaining because they know it's only among us they can find true love!😀

MightySparrow:
Hahaha. I have no fear for shunning or beheading: JW.Org and Islam are opposite side of the same coin.

Well said!😂

honesttalk21:
Discipline is meant to help people, not punish them.

Yet instead of shunning wrongdoers in your religion your people are KILLING them.
Please between SHUNNING so that the wrongdoer could come back begging and killing the wrongdoer are both the same?😂

lawani:
Ifa/Orunmila is handwork gotten via knowhow. It is not the same as religion. They have clients and not adherents

Guy all should be abolished according to you no preferential treatment!😀

honesttalk21:
Is being a Muslim dependant on group membership? Amputation is a prescribed punishment following indictment after following less physical reproach and corrective measures.

Don't deceive yourself my guy there are different Islamic groups and the ways they handle matters differs o!😀

honesttalk21:
The Mosaic punishments you mentioned were laws for ancient Israel's government.

That government continues among God's worshipers that's why Paul said to Christians:

While God judges those outside? “Remove the wicked person from among yourselves.” 1Corinthans 5:13

Remember that the Mosaic laws only applies within the territories of Israel so if any Israelite is not comfortable with it he or she is free to move to other places where he or she could practice whatever religion he likes.
The same still applies among true believers till today if anyone is not pleased with the way things are handled he or she should join any other religion out there nah!🙂

hahn:
It is very sad that in this country religious studies is mandatory in some schools. Why should that be?

Because politicians needs brainwashed individuals but the reality is that such shouldn't be welcomed in any civilized society!

honesttalk21:
Islamic punishment amongst humans is prescribed for social transgression and where it should further be punished in the hereafter Allah will decide. Allah doesn't recommend punishment for individual belief.

Please which Islamic group do you belong to and can you boldly say this in Mecca where your people do amputate fellow believers for transgressions?😂

honesttalk21:
Leaving faith is worse than unbelievers.

In Israel if a stranger is found among them note that such a person may be an idolater who doesn't know the laws of their God yet their God doesn't condemn such a person while the one who turns against the divine laws must be stoned to death.
Rahab was a prostitute in Jericho but she was spared for being friends of God's people while a prostitute found in Israel is to be stoned to death.
So abandoning the faith is worse than not knowing the faith at all, God loves the one who doesn't know the faith than the one who turns against it after knowing it! Hebrews 10:28-28

You are the one segregating them but in real sense whatever doesn't come from a person's perspective but inculcated is the same as RELIGION it's the number of adherents that makes a difference.

lawani:
I understand your point that all should be treated the same but I also want you to understand that spirituality has always been an important part of all human cultures without exception throughout history and it is religion that uses threat that is new. I believe spirituality should be protected by government. There is hardly any way divination based spirituality can be faulted. It is not right to throw the baby away with the bath water.
Ifa/Orunmila is like nuclear physics, carpentry or tailoring. A real knowhow. It is not religion

honesttalk21:
Is God's final judgment not different from human authority?

Is Islamic punishment authorized in the Quran God's or human's judgement.🙂

https://www.nairaland.com/7296267/converting-islam-christianity-story-islamic

The above is a thread about how Muslims are treating ex members!🙂

lawani:
Christianity and Islam should be practiced in private

Guy stop deceiving yourself.
If there should be any rule it must cut across all not just picking one above the others.
It's what crumbled the above opinion.

No ifá or orunmila practice each person must remain silent no public hearing of any kind it's either you speak to individuals one on one or keep whatever you think you know to yourself!🙂

lawani:
While we can say a Sheikh or Bishop is the equivalent of a Prof and be somewhat right, Awo Orunmila is even moreso because what they learn is methodology, literature and etc. You are first an apprentice then a master after which you continue studying. What you learn to become a first degree Awo is more voluminous than the average degree course. You are Awo then Oluwo and finally Araba and not everybody rise through the ranks. They are pure academic ranks and are equivalent of BSc, PhD and Professor

lawani:
It is fellow Oluwos and Arabas that then make you an Araba which is the equivalence of a Professor. So for those who are conversant with the system, what I said is generally acceptable

The highlighted is what makes your idea useless because it's not generally acceptable globally it's like someone imposing Islamic clerics claiming they are equivalent of a professor something billions will find really amusing!😂

TenQ:
You asked the question:
What Has Jesus Achieved in the midst of Us His Children!?
I have answered you about the Achievement of the Lord Jesus Christ in my church and if you are not satisfied, too bad.
My response was Clear and Detailed, your dissatisfaction my be an indication that either
1. Your Jesus is completely different from my Jesus. If course, your Jesus is An Angel you call Michael
2. You don't even know the Achievement of the real Jesus Christ in the Life of His own.

This is an irreconcilable difference as Light and Darkness cannot coexist.

This is what my own Jesus said about his proof of existence in the midst of his disciples:

I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another.  By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves. John 13:34-35

So our own Jesus is not our God rather he is our brother:

“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to MY BROTHERS and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God." John 20:17

Our own Jesus is one of our brothers as in worshiper of our Father and God who is LOVE {1John 4:8} that's why he could confidently say if we are truly his friends LOVE will bind us together as one happy global family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4

Of course everyone is talking about the LOVE that exists among Jehovah's Witnesses in fact when anyone loses his or her membership as one of us they are forever worried because instead of going out there to join thousands of other religions they keep complaining as they can never ever find a better replacement for the true believers in Christ!🙂

atheistandproud:
Should all Christians leave the tech section too? For someone talking about working brains, you really need to examine your statements mentally and logically before dropping them.

Is the tech section mainly for atheists?🙂

lawani:
All priests should be licensed by chartered bodies. An Awo Orunmila is more than a degree holder and an Araba Awo is more than a Professor. It is a real body of knowledge and not a holy book affair.

Do you think the highlighted is generally acceptable globally or your own personal opinion?🙂

lawani:
I mean they should not be incorporated and should not use public buildings.

Does this your opinion also include Ìjọ Ọ̀rúnmìlà?🙂

Will Jesus brutally destroy unrepentant sinners? Luke 19:27

Does he view apostate Jews as his fellow worshipers of the same God? John 8:44

Your hideout regarding family is useless because we are not talking about families here rather we are talking about faith and those who turns their back on their faith.
So just as you are running away from talking about what Muhammad told you to do against apostates in Islam you can't speak for Christianity since you are not accepting it therefore stop hiding behind Christianity when you refuse to accept it over your Islam.
Meanwhile apostates whether they are related to us by blood doesn't apply once they turn their back on the faith we are told to shun them! Matthew 18:15-17
Note that families who aren't Christians are not apostates so they are exempted from the punishment, we must maintain the cordial relationship we have with such ones but if they are Christians and turn against the Christian faith that is when what Jesus said applies! 🙂

honesttalk21:
Luke 19:27 actually goes against your point instead of supporting it. This passage is a story about judgment, not a rule for followers to follow. Thinking that God’s final judgment means we should cut off family members now is like saying, since God punishes murderers, we should execute them ourselves today. Jesus spent time with outcasts and took care of his mother. Paul even told us not to treat certain people as enemies (2 Thessalonians 3:15). No apostle ever told anyone to completely cut off their family like that. Only strict, controlling groups do this, and most Christian churches consider it unbiblical.

You got Biblical answer to the question you asked but ended up complicating it altogether.
There is nothing after death God only promised to bring back good people to life again but then living a good life now is difficult because the more you try to do things thinking about yourself alone the more danger you expose yourself to!😟

lawani:
Yes Fmr Gov Fashola is very right. Christianity and Islam should be practiced in private

I can't speak for Islam but real disciples of Christ practice our faith in private and we don't disturb anyone with noise! Matthew 12:19🙂

MightySparrow:
No deal.
Let your representative be shinning me.

At least shunning and beheading those unrepentant wrongdoers is the same thing going by your own perspective.
That's a good take home.
Thanks for your contribution!🙂

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣🤣funny people

When they are choked the next thing is to start arguing aimlessly and blindly!🙂

Just imagine:

Jesus is God's Son and the Almighty but at the same time the son of God is not the Almighty.🥴

So apart from audio achievements like all other religions do claim what can we see as evidence of your Jesus in the midst of its worshipers?

Note that all types of religions also make claims that's not visible please mention one thing that everyone can see as proof of your Jesus!🙂

TenQ:
I belong to "The Church of Jesus Christ" ( I won't tell you the city I reside but I am in Nigeria)
What Has Jesus Achieved in the midst of Us His Children!?
1. He Bought us with the costly Price of His Blood on the Cross and Adopted Us into Himself By His Spirit.
2. He Sealed us with His Spirit so that we become His Children
3. He made us Holy to Himself and Gave us His Spirit to lead us in Good Works
4. He Helped us to Nurture our Fruit of the Spirit by which our Character as His Ambassadors are nurtured and projected in the World
5. He gave us His Gifts of the Holy Spirit by which we are Empowered to Make Disciples of All nations, to Preach, to Heal the Sick and Cast out Demons as we go about Preaching the Good News to All Creations
6. He made Us His own Workmanship Created to do Good works for Him as we Represent Him Wherever we are
7. He made us to Love Him and one another as He has Loved us with a pure Love

So, above is the summary of what my Jesus has achieved in the midst of us who worship Him in Spirit and Truth!
Without Jesus, we are NOTHING!
In Jesus Christ we are made COMPLETE!
We still have some minor individual and personal shortcomings, BUT we are all work in-progress, and daily, we grow together Loving More of God and our Neighbours as ourselves.
We are ALL waiting for the second coming of Jesus Christ: so, we do the work of the ministry knowing that He will reward us according to our Faithfulness to our calling of Living a Life Worthy of His calling, Preaching the Good News and Making Disciples of all Creations.
I have nothing else to Add to this INFORMATION about the name of my church and what Jesus has achieved in the midst of us His worshipers?
Thank you for asking me of what the Lord Jesus Christ has Achieved in our Midst?

TenQ:
When did you ask me any question?

What is the name of your church and tell me what your Jesus has achieved in the midst of its worshipers?

AJIGBOTISESE1989:
What do you guyz understand by ijo orunmila adulawo both here and oversea

Another religious group.

MightySparrow:
Who are these Christ's representatives?

That's your own research to make Jesus said "it's by observing their FRUIT (followers) they can be recognized" {Matthew 7:16-18} Paul said we must be OBEDIENT to them that is if we are truly SHEEP {Hebrews 13:7; 17} after all everyone knows how submissive this domestic pet is!
So if you care go and make your own personal research because without them there is no salvation since they are Christ's brothers that we must assist in their divinely given task! Matthew 25:34-46🙂

TenQ:
Not with you sir. I said reach out to your fellow elders for discussion.

You have not answered the question i asked you so until you do there is nothing further to discuss with you!

TenQ:
Two opposite statements by the same person within a space of just 1 hour
Are you CONFUSED!?

The person i quoted understand what is called SARCASM!🙂