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Desperate to engage MaxInDHouse yet not ready for a meaningful discussion!🙂

FxMasterz:
Okay, let's do it this way, since you want to keep dodging the question:
Who appoints rulers:
A. God
B. Satan
Choose one option.

God's chosen ruler must be anointed by God you may now draw a conclusion on that!🙂

FxMasterz:
Are you a citizen of Nigeria? Do you have NIN?
A. I am a citizen of Nigeria, and I have my NIN.
B. I am not a citizen of Nigeria. I do not have an NIN. I am not in this world.

Who are required to take the NIN?
Nigerian or Ghanaian citizens?😂

FxMasterz:
Are you saying you pay taxes to the authorities so that they can protect you with guns and swords?
You mean the governments of Sudan and Syria should protect the JWs in those countries with swords and guns because they pay taxes? They should not leave them.vulnerable?

God permitted them since they choose to rule under Satan's system so we pay them whatever they require to function as they vowed to do!

We pay everyone for their services that is why they must be paid too for their services just as i don't see a carpenter or plumber or doctor as my savior or protector for their services and never vow nor dedicate our lives to any of them.

FxMasterz:
That's not the question. Let me ask the question again:
Who appoints rulers?

What did Satan told Jesus regarding this question? Luke 4:5-7
Who is God's anointed ruler?
If you ask me i will say Jesus Christ! Psalms 110:1; Isaiah 9:6-7

FxMasterz:
At least, you went to school. This is the question again:
Are you a citizen of Nigeria? Do you have an NIN?

You may not appreciate my response but this question has been answered!🙂

FxMasterz:
Should the Syrian and Sudanese governments defend the JWs in these countries against Islamist attacks? Or should they leave them vulnerable?

Who are the authorities we pay taxes to?
Why are we paying them taxes? Romans 13:6🙂

FxMasterz:
Who appoints rulers in the world?

So (Satan) brought (Jesus) up and showed him all the kingdoms of the inhabited earth in an instant of time.  Then the Devil said to (Jesus): “I will give you all this authority and their glory, because it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. If you, therefore, do an act of worship before me, it will all be yours.” Luke 4:5-7

FxMasterz:
Are you a citizen of Nigeria? Do you have an NIN?

Jesus commanded me saying:
"If someone in authority compels you into service for a mile, go with him two miles."

“Pay back Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God" Mark 12:17

Paul said:

Render to all their dues: to the one who calls for the tax, the tax; to the one who calls for the tribute, the tribute; to the one who calls for fear, such fear; to the one who calls for honor, such honor. Romans 13:7

So that is their policy and i must honor it

FxMasterz:
I will be waiting for your response.
Are there JWs in Syria and Sudan?

YES!

Who is the overall ruler of the world? John 14:30, 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19

Regarding whatever worldly people will do to themselves Jesus said:

“My Kingdom is no part of this world" John 18:36

He also said about Jehovah's Witnesses:

"I have given your word to them, but the world has hated them, because they are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world. “I do not request that you take them out of the world, but that you watch over them because of the wicked one. They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world" John 17:14-16

So if Jesus my Master, Lord and King has separated his disciples like me from the world how do you expect me to tell you what the world should do about their disputes?

Meanwhile i want you to know that the world's most racist and Islamic nations have Jehovah's Witnesses right in their neighborhood and our brothers are doing what they can to make disciples there. How? Because whatever rules they set we will abide by it because we are as cautious as serpent and harmless as dove! Matthew 10:16

So it's your people that's always having issues with them!🙂

FxMasterz:
Why are you deflecting from answering the question?
Let me ask you two other question.
1. What should Israel do to have peace with Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis?
2. What should Nigeria dó to have peace with Bandits, Boko-haram, ISWAP and Fulani Herdsmen?

Thanks to Jehovah i have nothing to do with apostates except exposing all you atheists claiming believers on Nairaland!🙂

That is what God foretold about His true worshipers in the endtime {Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3} and Jesus as the Prince of Peace and the world's most wonderful counselor {Isaiah 9:6} taught all his disciples how they can achieve Peace globally among themselves even if the world failed to have peace {John 17:14-16} today JWs are fulfilling that purpose among themselves globally. Act 1:8

So if you and your funny friend are not deceiving yourself i am talking about what that organization is achieving today which no other religion could.

Of course that's why all of you are so ashamed of your religions hiding behind the anonymous group name "Christians"🙂

FxMasterz:
Why should I be concerned about that?

Desperate to engage someone else when all you need to do is present your own submission on the topic of discussion!

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

🙂

Just as Peter protected Jesus shey?😂

FxMasterz:
Wrong question.
Jesus says I as an individual should love my neighbor as myself. He was not talking to governments. However, if we are to include governments in the discussion, then, government would protect its citizens which are its immediate neighbors from an aggressive nation which is a neighbor far away.

Do you know any politician or military personnel among Jehovah's Witnesses?

Continue deceiving yourself!😂

FxMasterz:
You've not proven anything.
I have made you retract yourself by making you admit you were in error. I have also made you see how you contradict your own organizational doctrine.
Yet, you refuse to repent.

FxMasterz:
Is a nation a fellow human being?

Please Sir what makes a nation?

[1] Trees
[2] Animals
[3] Rivers
[4] Buildings
[5] Fellow human beings
🙂

FxMasterz:
Maxindhouse would do everything to establish his own words even if it contradicts the Bible or his organizational doctrine.

You can say whatever you like at least i have proved you wrong that the love of Christ forbids any of his disciples from carrying weapons against anyone be it friend or foe! Matthew 5:43-48🙂

FxMasterz:
Tell me how the term 'neighbor' apply to nations.

Oxford Dictionary:

Fellow human being

Today when you hear in the news of bad things happening to people in other lands (nations) how do you feel? Mark 12:31

So as a Christian who supposed to go there according to the order from Christ Jesus to preach and teach them about the love of Christ how do you feel when you hear that they are fighting and killing one another?🙂

There is only one reason Jesus has to TEACH people:

Because we have fallen short of God's glory! Romans 3:23

Before Adam and Eve sinned against God nobody needs Jesus' teachings it was the need that calls for Jesus to come as a counselor. Isaiah 9:6

God created humans in His own image or likeness which means we possess some godly qualities but due to certain events and circumstances around us we can't exhibit those godly qualities as we should that's why we need a perfect human to teach us how we can do away with our former personality and put on a new personality! Ephesians 4:22-24

Now this provision can only work for people who love good things not those whose minds are filled with evil thoughts that is why faith is not a possession of all kinds of people. 2Thessalonians 3:2

Now if faith is not a possession of all kinds of people do you think what Jesus is saying could be something of the heart?

Of course not it requires TEACHING and only virtuous people will welcome such teachings not everyone having a heart!🙂

Theawakensoul:
I appreciate your perspective, and you’re right to point out that translation matters.
Luke 17:21 is often rendered as “the Kingdom of God is in your midst” or “among you”, depending on the translation and interpretation.
But here’s where the deeper conversation begins:
The Greek word used there is “entos”, which can mean: 👉 within
👉 inside
👉 or among

So the question becomes…

👉 Was Yeshua pointing to something external… or something experiential within human awareness?


Because even beyond that verse, we see a consistent pattern in His teachings:

He keeps directing attention inward:

to the heart

to awareness

to inner transformation


So whether one says “within you” or “among you”…

👉 The real issue is not just wording, but understanding what He was pointing to.


My focus is not on arguing translations…

👉 But on exploring the deeper meaning behind the message.


And I respect that we may see it differently, that’s part of the journey.

If you’re open to exploring that perspective further, I’ve shared more here:

📘 https://selar.com/christ-consciousness

The Awaken Soul (TAS)
Awareness Over Belief. 🔥

paulGrundy:
My Faith in Jesus is still as strong as ever.

The OP also claim he is a Christian he has never mentioned any other church on this forum as a Christian group except Deeperlifer because that is the name of his own church.
So what is the name of your own church Sir?🙂

Theawakensoul:
If you were born into a different country… a different culture… a different religion…
Would you still believe exactly what you believe today?
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Or would you be just as convinced… about something completely different?
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That’s not truth…
That’s conditioning.

You need to know the difference or how to distinguish between Christianity and false religions claiming Christians.

How can someone become a Christian?

The founder of Christianity send his disciples to all the nations of the earth and commanded them to make as many that welcome their teachings his disciples. Matthew 28:19-20

That means if your religion is not doing this then you are not a Christian because you must go to the homes of your neighbor to speak with them about your faith and mind you if there is any better offer than yours you will surely know since you believe you have the truth and nothing surpassed truth.

So Christianity is not by condition but knowledge and wisdom.

Today Satan has filled the planet with confusion as tens of thousands of different religions are claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines so if you don't know the true Christian group out of all these religions then you can't find the truth.

Tilewizy:
I am not identified by my church, yes I agree my church has a lot to play in my spiritual growth, nuture and edification.

Why do you love deceiving yourself?

Take note of the first century Christians that none of them do boast about his Christ like lifestyle even the apostle Paul known for helping to form churches back then said about himself:

"For I do not understand what I am doing. For I do not practice what I wish, but I do what I hate. However, if I do what I do not wish, I agree that the Law is fine. But now I am no longer the one doing it, but it is the sin that resides in me" Romans 7:15-17

So none could speak as a perfect example of Christian but they always say that their group is performing as in fulfilling what Jesus foretold about his group:

And yet that is what some of you were. But you have been washed clean; you have been sanctified; you have been declared righteous in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God. 1Corinthans 6:11

So as a group the first century disciples of Christ achieved what Jesus foretold even though individuals often fall short due to imperfection. James 3:2

That is why the OP could single out one organization because he can see how this group is performing globally as the Christian group doing the assignment Jesus gave his disciples. Matthew 28:19-20

While you are here on a faceless forum glorifying your anonymous self and at the same time hiding the name of your church {John 3:19} so that no one can see the fruit of what your pastors are teaching you! Matthew 7:16-18😀

Tilewizy:
Whoever you maybe, you are NO ONE in the sight or eyes of God.

Supreme Judge!😂

Tilewizy:
a. Accurate knowledge of what? You have mentioned our bibles are different, and that ours is corrupted. So which knowledge are you talking about?

ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE means having the truth as it was penned down by the inspired writers of the word.
Bibles we have today are translations of what was penned down by inspired men in ancient times so to have the accurate knowledge we can't just pick a translation and conclude that is the only one we should use.
Jesus said "by their fruits you will know" this means if a translation is correct then those studying it will produce the fruitage of God's holy spirit as a group since they are studying it together.
I mentioned what Christianity supposed to achieve globally but you ruled it out and started audio claims that can't be verified anywhere whereas Jesus said his disciples are the light of the world {Matthew 5:14} can individuals in different religions do this?
Of course not they must be organized and recognized before people can see and say good things about their faith! Matthew 5:16
You can't mention the name of your church yet you keep arguing that you have faith when everyone knows that there are thousands of different religions out there claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines!

Only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES has been known for decades now to have unified teaching and the result:

Tilewizy:
I can say for a truth, the Jehovas witness I have come across live very calm and peaceful lives in most cases worthy of emulation.

If you typed the above statement with your own fingers whatever you say against that group is lies to your own soul!🙂

The world is in confusion but God's own children are spiritually fortified with wisdom.

Jesus will never come back to be seen again by people:

"In a little while the world will see me no more, but you will see me, because I live and you will live." John 14:19

Shortly after the above statement Jesus was arrested and killed from that time only his true disciples saw him after his resurrection that is why the Jews as a nation never agreed that Jesus is alive.

So by the time he will return for people to know that it's Jesus he will lead the armies of heaven to exterminate all his enemies {Luke 19:27} none of them will see him because he is now a powerful spirit king it's only what happens to them that will make them know that it's Jesus and his angels destroying the wicked unbelievers. Ezekiel 38:21-23

FxMasterz:
My dear. Show us how the command to love one's neighbor as oneself applies to nations in the presence of evil.

The nations are going to war to fight and kill their neighbors whoever love his neighbors will never ever support such a move {Mark 12:31} Jesus Christ commanded us to have love among ourselves just as he loves us {John 13:34-35} as a Christian i must always pray for my fellow believers throughout the world and never ever should i participate in any kind of war that could cause them pain! Isaiah 2:4 compare to Matthew 26:52

Simple as ABC!🙂

achorladey:
You saw it and decided to look away and start deflecting into your holy spirit

Again here is my submission:
Jesus is the one who will offer the ultimate sacrifice that will open the way for obedient humans to enter into God's Kingdom and he is standing right in their midst.

Now say what your own submission is all about and stop beating about the bush if truly you have anything tangible to say!🙂

Tilewizy:
These are the few amongst other points that shows that there's a major difference between Christianity and what your organisation preaches.

All these are audio self glorification just mention the name of your church and let's consider how you people have been producing the FRUIT of faith like Jehovah's Witnesses.

The OP can see many religions claiming Christians but noticed only Jehovah's Witnesses with fine qualities worth emulating that's why he is curious so let us know the name of your own church not just quoting scriptures that you can't apply publicly to any religion!

The word of God is alive and it is doing a lot of work in the gathering of God's people {Hebrews 4:12} so instead of telling stories present your church and let us see the WORKS of God's holy spirit in your gathering! James 2:18-26😀

Tilewizy:
You who sins and cover it up is talking.

See childish comment!😂
Someone who doesn't even know the person he is chatting with o.

In fact Satan can deceive arrogant people so easily!🙂

Tilewizy:
By the grace of God I have grown to a point where God speaks to me in various ways.

Satan also used to speak to people {1Chronicles 21:1} while the one hearing such voices will conclude that God is the one talking to him {2Samuel 24:1} in this same manner Satan has been disguising as an angel of light! 2Corinthians 11:14

So how can we prevail over Satan's schemes?

First we need to take in the ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE of God so as to know the will of God which helps all the holy ones globally to remain in union with the Lord as we have the same line of thought {1Corinthans 1:10} secondly we must continue in prayer {1Thessalonians 5:17} not to loose focus on what we and all our brothers throughout the earth have learned together so that by the time anyone comes with unfruitful teaching let such person be accursed {Galatians 1:8} how is our God speaking to all His children today?

Regarding organizational directions and faith that unifies all His worshipers our God doesn't speak to individuals again rather we all focus on His inspired word: Bible!

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. 2Timothy 3:16-17🙂

It's OK i've explained myself you can go ahead to do the same since you don't want to tell me your own submission on the topic of discussion!🙂

achorladey:
You will be better off going back to where I picked the discussion. From scriptures to buttress your point enter specific with your submission.

OK!😂

sonmvayina:
I don't need to tell you anything, God gave us laws we kept them. And as such he protected us during the Nigerian -Biafran civil wars. Nobody from there died.

achorladey:
Is God's kingdom of the externals only or internals only?

Please be specific with your submission.
My submission is that Jesus the chosen King of God's Kingdom and who will teach them how to get there is RIGHT THERE IN THEIR GATHERING! 🤔

Quote the scripture to buttress what is in your mind, i'm willing to reason with you Sir!🤔

achorladey:
That's how you go into unnecessary manipulation of the scriptures.
The scriptures I cited deals with Jesus christ, where did you see me talked about the Holy Spirit?
The king of of the kingdom is in the mind of people. Correct?

Consequently, Jehovah saw that man’s wickedness was great on the earth and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only bad all the time. Genesis 6:5
So God's holy spirit can only dwell in the hearts of those who have accepted the teachings of Christ Jesus, dedicated their lives to God and symbolize this by water immersion (Baptism)

God's holy spirit doesn't dwell in the hearts of wicked people whose thoughts and actions saddens Him always! Genesis 6:6

achorladey:
I pray that he may grant you through the abundance of his glory to be made mighty in the man you are inside, with power through his spirit, and that through your faith you may have the Christ dwell in your hearts with love. May you be rooted and established on the foundation,

Jesus who will teach them how and also take them to God's Kingdom is in their midst!

achorladey:
So to be in God's kingdom, humans have to ensure that treasure stays within and develop within their heart.

achorladey:
Motives are developed within the mind or outside the mind?

A good man brings good out of the good treasure of his heart, but a wicked man brings what is wicked out of his wicked treasure; for out of the heart’s abundance his mouth speaks. Luke 6:45

The wicked has no place in God's plan! Psalms 9:17

Thanks!