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Christianity Etc › Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:36am On Apr 20*

FxMasterz:
There are examples of known perfect humans in the Bible. The Scriptures encourage us to move towards perfection.

There is no single perfect human:

The Lord looks down from heaven on all mankind to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God. All have turned away, all have become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.
‭Psalms 14:2-3 NIV‬
So that is why Christ must rule (teach) mankind for 1000 years {Revelation 20:1-3} after that humans will become perfect not now!🙂

FxMasterz:
Galatians 5:22: "Now, the fruits of the spirit are manifest
Love, Joy, Peace, Longsuffering (Patience), Gentleness, Goodness, Faith (Faithfulness), Meekness, Temperance (Self-control).

No single human manifested all these qualities except Jesus that is why God said we should learn from him {Matthew 17:5} whatever virtue there is in any human you'll see in Individuals across all religions that's why everyone must be a Christian to become perfect like Jesus otherwise God will destroy them for disobedience. John 3:16

FxMasterz:
Incorrect!
Here, Jesus was not talking about the fruits of the Spirit but soul winning - evangelism. Every branch must bear fruits, and every fruit must someday become a branch bearing fruits. The disciples won souls. We too as individuals must win souls. God expects all believers to be soul winners. The souls you hear are the fruits Jesus was talking about here. Jesus was talking to the 12 disciples here. Paul was not among them. But Paul also bore fruits, didn't he? We too must bear fruits as Paul did. Jesus spoke to all of us, not just the 12 apostles. Paul was the one who first preached the Gospel in Achaia, and he said:
"I beseech you, brethren, (ye know the house of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have addicted themselves to the ministry of the saints,)" 1 Corinthians 15:16.

What fruit has any individual claiming Christian produced or exhibited that you won't find in individuals across other religions!🙂

Christianity Etc › Re: What Really Kills Us Faster by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:45am On Apr 20

Timely message.
God bless you!

Christianity Etc › Re: What If You've Been Taught To Fear Truth... Instead Of Seek It? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:13pm On Apr 19

True Christians were commanded by the founder to go and meet people in their homes {Matthew 10:11-13} false religions only shout in the streets and public buses where nobody will be able to ask them questions in private.

I'm Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses if you know the type of questions some people do ask us when there is no one listening you will be shocked.😟

I remember a middle aged woman tall beautiful and really attractive asked me why God is against lesbianism when she is not hurting anyone and herself with the other female are happy doing what pleases them.

Do you think quoting the Bible will makes any sense to her?
Of course she wants intelligent answer and reasoning not based on what any book says.

That is what it means to preach from house to house and door to door not the usual stuff of heaven is real hell is real.🙂

Theawakensoul:
Why do certain questions make you uncomfortable?

Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Believer Have More Than One Spiritual Father? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:34pm On Apr 19

RhemaJet7:
It is very interesting, seeing many Nairalanders, washing their dirty linen in public, arguing blindly that THERE IS NOTHING CALLED HUMAN SPIRITUAL FATHER.

If someone ask you to mention the name of your church you will say you are a Christian and that's all.
Ọmọ they are all Christians like you too after all none of you wants to mention the name of his or her church!😀

Christianity Etc › Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:38pm On Apr 19

FxMasterz:
Beating the fruits of the Spirit does not mean that human frailty wouldn't interfere from time to time as we continue to grow in the faith. We're working towards perfection but not subdued by the Adamic nature. It takes times for our minds to be fully renewed and to be totally confirmed to the Word.

Did the same thing happened to Jesus?

NO! Because he is a perfect human unlike we imperfect humans that is why there is no imperfect human who can bear the fruit of God's holy spirit completely as an individual.

FxMasterz:
There's nothing like fruit of Christianity, dude.

So what do you call the fruit that only Jesus' disciples can produce?🙂

FxMasterz:
The bolded part of the verse you quoted shows The was talking about individuals, that's why He said EVERY ONE. Except you're expecting Jesus to be talking about several organizations as fruits. And if you claim that your organization is the only true organization, your argument falls flat with Jesus saying "Everyone" in regards to every organization. Does Jesus expect every organization, groups, denominations to bear fruits? No. Jesus does not know groups, organizations or denominations. He has only one Body which comprises of all believers. Hence, the fruit bearers are each individual believers. Jesus is the tree. We, individual believers are His branches.

The everyone here refers to the branch which means Jesus' apostles but fruit is the product of their gathering as a group!🙂

Christianity Etc › Re: Omolehin: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Olukoya Are Denominational Heads, Not Fathers Of .... by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:27pm On Apr 19

DeepSight:
How humble. Our organization is the only Christian organization on Earth. Indeed. We don hia.

Jesus commanded Jehovah's Witnesses:
“Keep your eyes open and watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees." Matthew 16:6

Then they grasped that he said to watch out, not for the leaven of bread, but for the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees. Matthew 16:12

Jesus doesn't hide the truth:

“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6

So his real disciples won't welcome any strange teachings among them! 🙂

Christianity Etc › Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:21pm On Apr 19

FxMasterz:
Each, and everyone of them as individuals bore fruits that their contemporaries testified about.

Who disowned Jesus three times? Matthew 10 :33
Who disowned his fellow believers? Galatians 2:11-14
Stop deceiving yourself.
It was as a group that they performed not individually.

FxMasterz:
Not an intelligent submission at all. This position is very much void of sound reasoning because the fruits they bear is what identifies them. Not the fruits they pretend to bear. We see them daily in our world. Their ministries are full of scandals, failed prophecies, heresies, child abuses, ever changing doctrines, lying revelations, etc.

The same applies to first century Jewish disciples of Jesus but when you look around no group performed better than them!🙂

FxMasterz:
The Bible didn't say we should observe those following them, but to observe they themselves. We know them by the fruits they bear. They're full of lies and hypocrisy. They condemn military service while enjoying the defence benefits of the military rather than being left vulnerable to attacks.

This is what Jesus said about fruit of Christianity:

“I am the true vine, and my Father is the cultivator. He takes away every branch in me not bearing fruit, and he cleans every one bearing fruit, so that it may bear more fruit." John 15:1-2

So Jesus himself is the three but who are the branches?

"I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever remains in union with me and I in union with him, this one bears much fruit; for apart from me you can do nothing at all." John 15:5

So the apostles are branches while the disciples they make will serve as the fruit that's is why Jehovah Witnesses are of the same line of thought {John 17:22} because we're all attached to the same vine. You can't present any church because you know that all of you are spiritually scattered regarding your beliefs! Luke 11:23🙂

Christianity Etc › Re: Omolehin: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Olukoya Are Denominational Heads, Not Fathers Of .... by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:22pm On Apr 19

wellmax:
They worship the same God and have strong faith in the grace of Jesus Christ

If so why the contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines?🤔

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Christianity Etc › Re: Omolehin: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Olukoya Are Denominational Heads, Not Fathers Of .... by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:21pm On Apr 19

DeepSight:
Very well. Are JWs part of CAN?
Well, you know they are not.
Might I ask why?

There is only one Christian organization on planet earth we preach and teach the same thing globally {John 17:22; 1Corinthans 1:10} so if any group claims they are also Christians but not willing to operate the same way as we do we will not honor their gathering let them pitch their tent anywhere the like!

Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Said He Can Be A Jew To A Jew To Win Them! by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:17pm On Apr 19

“ ‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’ ”‭Matthew 15:8-9 NIV

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
‬‭Matthew 7:21-23 NIV‬

Expanse2020:
So those men in Benue that they kidnap there pastor pretending to be boko-haram are they not worship Jesus

Christianity Etc › Re: Omolehin: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Olukoya Are Denominational Heads, Not Fathers Of .... by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:58pm On Apr 19

Heaven is just a way to deceive people God never promised anyone heaven in the Bible {Psalms 115:16} it's Jesus who told his prospective corulers that he will go and PREPARE a place where they will stay to rule with him {John 14:1-3} this means there was never any preparation before that statement.

So if any religion is telling you that good people are going to heaven it's a old pagan tradition not biblical teaching!

dappydozzy:
Here we go again, so various denominations worship different Gods. God is mono, not Poly.
Ignorance really affects us when it comes to religion. Religion is a creation of man. Many dont even know the clear difference between creed, doctrine and belief. It is not being a Pentecostal, Baptist, Methodist , Jehovah Witness ,Redeem, that guarantees you heaven, it is your way of life and accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Personal Saviour.
On the day of judgement, your thoughts,and actions in the present plane will be judged.

Christianity Etc › Re: Omolehin: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Olukoya Are Denominational Heads, Not Fathers Of .... by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:53pm On Apr 19

DeepSight:
+Most of them especially Oyedepo worship money and power.

Well Jesus said "by their fruits you will know" Matthew 7:16-18

Under Satan's kingdom there are many demons each with it's specialization as in what each demon treasure mostly.

*Worshipers of a sadist spirit their mode of dressing exposes them and whoever fail to agree with their pastors must not just die off but after death go into everlasting torment.

*Worshipers to the spirit of dominance so their members are always into politics seeking to take over power in all places.

*Worshipers of the spirit of vengeance so they always wish evil things happen to whoever cross their path.

*Worshipers of the spirit of the highest spiritual power so worshipers always seek powers to conquer witches.

They are countless but all of them are claiming "CHRISTIANS"

Christianity Etc › Re: Omolehin: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Olukoya Are Denominational Heads, Not Fathers Of .... by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:32pm On Apr 19

DeepSight:
MaxinDHouse are JWs part of CAN?

Why not answer the question i asked before asking me another question?

Do you think all those men are worshiping the same God?

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witness...... Are They Christians???? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:26pm On Apr 19

Gabrielshow26:
I was targeted by a Muslim moderator for my critiques of Islam.

So you are the only person criticizing Islam on Nairaland that you have to be banned for 10 years shey?

Ọmọ it's insincerity that caused it if you want to argue do so sincerely!🙂

Christianity Etc › Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:09am On Apr 19

FxMasterz:
All of them except Judas.

Which means you are talking about the GROUP not an individual!🙂

FxMasterz:
When Jesus said "By their fruits, you will know them." He was talking of individual false prophets. Not groups or gatherings. You're just too heretic.

The individual false prophet will pretend to be a sheep {Matthew 7:15} so there is no way you can get any fruit from them because they will hide everything from the public but after gathering followers and teaching them their teachings will fail to produce fine fruit among their followers.

That's why Jesus said false prophets will mislead many {Matthew 24:11} so it's by observing those following them that you will know whether their God's servants or Satan's!🙂

Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Said He Can Be A Jew To A Jew To Win Them! by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:00am On Apr 19

Expanse2020:
That why some of paraded as a boko-haram, evil heard men, kidnappers,
Until they nabbed some of you we know what was going on in this country

You can never ever find one of us using weapons against our fellow humans! Mark 12:31
So i'm not saying there aren't disguised men pretending to be terrorists but know today that true worshipers of our God no longer learn war anymore! Isaiah 2:4

Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Said He Can Be A Jew To A Jew To Win Them! by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:54am On Apr 19*

AntiChristian:
Paul said to eat the meat. You are saying you won't eat it. That's unlike Paul. Jesus ate with sinners and drank wine with them. Though Jesus didn't relate with idolators in the Bible
You guys are chameleon!

You don't understand what Paul wrote!🙂

Eat whatever is sold in a meat market, making no inquiry because of your conscience, for “to Jehovah belong the earth and everything in it.”  If an unbeliever invites you and you want to go, eat whatever is set before you, making no inquiry on account of your conscience. But if anyone says to you, “This is something offered in sacrifice,” do not eat because of the one who told you and because of conscience. I do not mean your own conscience, but that of the other person. For why should my freedom be judged by another person’s conscience? 1Corinthans 10:25-29

So if i visit you as a friend whatever you offer me i will eat but once you say "it's Salah meat" i will give you a thousand and one excuse why i will not eat that's why we won't even visit or come closer to you during your festival!🙂

Christianity Etc › Re: God-breathed Or Investigated? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:44am On Apr 19*

AntiChristian:
Luke never inferred any spirit guiding him to write. And he was even writing to Theophilus not scripture to be used by Christians. Yet you are quoting John written decades after Luke to buttress what Luke said.

A Yorùbá charm is called "Oògùn Ìsọ̀yè" it's what our people use back then for reminders but when talking about Ògèdè or Ọfọ̀ or Àyájọ́ these are words from the spirit realms given to mortal men to fight in a spiritual battle.

The Ògèdè is inspired expressions and most times spiritists do teach their apprentice or child how to chant these ògèdè it could be very lengthy and what do you think will help the child or apprentice to remember all the things the spiritist taught them?

Well it is Oògùn Ìsọ̀yè!

All these has to do with supernatural powers so when Luke penned down all the things he saw and heard about the life and ministry of Jesus the holy spirit is reminding him!🙂

Christianity Etc › Re: God-breathed Or Investigated? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:51am On Apr 19

AntiChristian:
The John verse you quoted never meant what you're interpreting here.
It's not even related at all in context.
John is even worse than Luke!

You asked how holy spirit is involved in the Bible book of Luke that is why i quoted Jesus (not John) who promised that reminders are part of the work of God's holy spirit! John 14:26🙂

Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Said He Can Be A Jew To A Jew To Win Them! by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:48am On Apr 19

AntiChristian:
So by this Paul justified eating foods dedicated to idols just to win people to Christianity 1- Corinthians 8:4-6.[/size]

You don't know the true Christians we can be anywhere and you won't even notice anything different because we will dress like your people, greet like your, work like your people, play like your people, eat food like your people and if drinking is permitted in your area we will drink with your people yet we will be so cautious in order not to let you know that we are of another faith until you start noticing our manner of approach by yourself.

So just like Paul we won't eat your Salah meat with you but at the same time we won't openly condemn it.

Christianity Etc › Re: God-breathed Or Investigated? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:20am On Apr 19

AntiChristian:
They were writing like historians with eyewitnesses and investigation! No holy spirit!

Inspiration means what happened that no one could see with physical eyes but was revealed to someone in the case of Luke the work of God's holy spirit is to bring back to Luke's minds all the things he saw and heard from different eyewitnesses! John 14:26

Christianity Etc › Re: The Silence Of God: The Loudness Of Guns by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:14am On Apr 19*

Like most ignorant people around you the identity of true Christian group is hidden from your grasp!

True Christians don't have any issue with other religions rather it's the false religions claiming they are Christians that's fighting against true Christianity!🙂

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Believer Have More Than One Spiritual Father? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:43am On Apr 19

RhemaJet7:
I'm sorry I don't know scriptures, BUT I KNOW GOD DEARLY, living a sanctified life.

You don't know God's word but you know God.
Ọmọ you will be good for Fúnmi Davies Stand up Nigeria comedy show!

Just imagine you said something while your so called fellow believers came to condemn your write up i throw more light using the scriptures to prove that it's possible for a believer to have many spiritual fathers but all you can say is Hell fire is real o!

Where is the location of Hell fire?😂

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witness...... Are They Christians???? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:40am On Apr 19

Gabrielshow26:
You don't need all these courz. You have proved your point beyond reasonably doubt to the reader.

Someone knew he has been playing around like a kid this one say he has proved his point.
Abeg what point has he proved?

*Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians.

*Jehovah's Witnesses aren't Christians.

*MaxInDHouse is a JW.

*MaxInDHouse is not a JW.

Which point exactly has he proved?

No wonder your account was banned for ten years due to gross insincerity!🤧

Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Believer Have More Than One Spiritual Father? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:32am On Apr 19

RhemaJet7:
Guess what?
I heard Holy Spirit.

I think you are right jàre the holy ghost only talk to you and all these so called believers in Nairaland don't have an atom of the holy ghost you carry!😂

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Christianity Etc › Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:27am On Apr 19*

FxMasterz:
Groups don't produce fruits. Fruits are borne by individuals, according to the Bible.

Can you mention an individual among Jesus' disciples who bore the fruit that no pagan individual as borne before?🤔

You don't understand God's word yet you want to argue.

There is no religion on this planet where you won't find individuals having fine qualities worth emulating but what exposes false religions is that as a group they will fail.

WHY?

Because we humans are imperfect so as individually we can't adequately meet up with the qualities of God's holy {James 3:2 compare to Romans 7:15-20} but because we were created in God's image you will always find virtuous individuals in different religions. Romans 2:14-15

What makes God's organization different?

God's organized people differs because it's God's holy spirit that's working in the gathering of God's children while Satan and demons are behind false religions so even though imperfection may affect individuals within God's organized people such an individual can't influence the group for evil but despite having virtuous individuals in false religions it's the demonic powers that will control their gathering that's what Jesus meant by saying "by their fruits you will know" Matthew 7:16-18 🙂

Christianity Etc › Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:10am On Apr 19

The Christ mentality is what you have condemned just like your first century brothers in Judaism who condemned Jesus and his disciples because they felt Jesus and his disciples will not use the sword yet they want to be protected by the sword.
This is what Pharisees said about Jesus for teaching his listeners not to carry weapons:

"If we let him go on this way, they will all put faith in him, and the Romans will come and take away both our place and our nation.” John 11:48

To them Jesus and his followers are of no good use to their nation since they will not join in fighting against the Romans.

So the Christ mentality you condemned and i can't stop you from doing so.🙂

FxMasterz:
You have been exposed!
You're Nigerian but pretend you don't need the works rulers because they're ruling for Satan according to you. Yet, you benefit from defence activities and many other things government provides. Hypocrisy at its peak.
You just like parroting unnecessarily.
Who is talking about the arrest of Boko haram members? Trying to deflect just to avoid the truth.
The thing is that you appreciate the sword and guns being used by government to protect you. You don't want to be left vulnerable but condemn the same government for using sword and guns in your teachings. This is very deceitful of you and your sect.

Christianity Etc › Re: Omolehin: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Olukoya Are Denominational Heads, Not Fathers Of .... by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:11pm On Apr 18

adenigga:
“Don’t get me wrong. Baba Adeboye is a very successful, respected man of God. But he’s in Redeemed. Kumuyi is in Deeper Life. Olukoya is in MFM. Does Olukoya know what is happening to a certain brother that is in Seventh-day Adventist? Does Kumuyi know what is happening to a person that is in Jehovah’s Witness? But these are also christains”

Are they all worshipers of the same God?🤔

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Believer Have More Than One Spiritual Father? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:05pm On Apr 18

This makes no practical sense because instead of teaching the same thing each leader has his or her own personal doctrine that's why most people feel there is no sense in having spiritual fathers!🙂

adenigga:
Founder of The Word Assembly Churches, Rev. Isaac Omolehin has declared that Christianity in Nigeria lacks a unifying paternal figure, arguing that prominent church leaders are denominational heads rather than fathers of the entire body of Christ.

Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Believer Have More Than One Spiritual Father? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:53pm On Apr 18

Spiritual fathers!

When Peter asked Jesus a very serious question:

“We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?” ‭Matthew 19:27 NIV‬

What is Jesus' response?

Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.
‭Matthew 19:28-30 NIV‬

So according to Jesus if anyone has left a father to follow Jesus will he be blessed with many fathers?

Are those many fathers his biological or spiritual fathers in the Lord?

Well there is nothing wrong in having many spiritual fathers but then there is one father we all have who has the final say Jesus said that is our heavenly Father! Matthew 23:8-10 compare to John 20:17

So what is the practical application of these scriptures?

Just as children are to obey their parents in line with the what God said {Ephesians 6:1} all our spiritual fathers should be in union with the Lord so that there won't be contradicting counsels from those we view as our spiritual fathers! 1Corinthans 1:10; 1Peter 3:8

This means if two elderly men aren't in agreement regarding doctrine then they are not sound spiritual fathers but worldly fathers who teaches children according to their own thoughts unlike Jesus who always teaches his disciples (children) just as his father taught him! John 5:30

May you have peace!

Christianity Etc › Re: What's The New Covenant? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:33pm On Apr 18

Before speaking of the New Covenant we need to know what makes it new and what happened to the Old Covenant.

The Old Covenant is the one God made with the nation of Israel saying they will be His special possession out of all the nations on planet earth. Exodus 19:5
This Covenant was established based on the laws God gave Israel, they're to live by God's law.
But the Israelites stopped living by the laws of God and started fighting against God's servants who were sent to remind them of the covenant they had with God.
That is why God told Jeremiah to stop praying for the nation of Israel {Jeremiah 11:14} and promised to make another Covenant with obedient descendants of Jacob {Jeremiah 31:31-33} this New Covenant will not be like the first where each of them will be quoting laws for his brother rather it will be like principle which will guide their thoughts as to whether what each person chooses to do is right or wrong! Matthew 7:12
Moses was the mediator between God and the Israelites regarding the first covenant so he was given the WRITTEN LAWS so as an imperfect human the people can see flaws in the way Moses does things.
Jesus is the mediator of the new covenant but unlike Moses Jesus is a perfect human so instead of quoting laws for his listeners he led by example that is why anyone who could imitate Jesus in thoughts, words and actions is qualified to become a child of God. John 1:11-12

So Paul is now talking about the New Covenant which Jesus lived by it not any written laws rather what Jesus said and did. Ministers of this New Covenant don't just have to quote but live by examples like our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus!

May you have peace!

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witness...... Are They Christians???? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:24pm On Apr 18

Funny atheist no know wetin he go talk again?🤧

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