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Though late due to death which makes it hard for continuity in researching as one happy family, humans have discovered so many good things on this planet.

But where do we go wrong?

After Adam and Eve rebelled against God a man founded a concept based on rebellion against God's sovereignty, his name is Nimrod this man decided to make himself ruler over other humans by force that's why the Bible referred to him as a mighty hunter in opposition to God! Genesis 10:9

Satan was the initiator of human government so ever since then Satan keeps promoting human government and that has been the real cause of killing throughout human history till today!

So how do we figure out the only true religion?

Jesus said "by their FRUITS you will know them" {Matthew 7:16} before Jesus God's word said during the endtime individuals from all the corners of the earth will unite to reason from the scriptures and form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers, they will use what is written in God's word to settle all their disparities among themselves, divert their resources into the production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

This is the foundation Jesus laid when he formed a group in the first century Jewish community and send them to go and spread this thought to all lovers of peace worldwide! Act 1:8

So no matter how nice, kind, generous anyone may be if his religion is not PRODUCING this FRUIT {Matthew 7:15-20} let him know that such a religion and all it's adherents have nothing to do with Jesus of Nazareth! Matthew 7:21-23

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

zoer:
I will really like to see a discussion between Antichristian,Empiree and Drlateef with Christian prince.

All religionists thinks/believes their religion is OK because no matter what you think about a religion you will still find some nice people in all the religions practicing it so adherents who knows nice and kind people among them will find it really difficult to agree with you that their religion is fake.

For sure you will find nice people as well as wicked ones in virtually all the religions on this planet because humans are imperfect and each is seeking his own advantage so no matter what happens a normal human will judge in favour of his or her own side.

So religious arguments can only profit those who are listening with the objective to figure out how to IDENTIFY the only true religion and what they're suppose to be doing in our time which is God's will.

Now that's a very difficult thing to understand because God's will is the same right from the beginning but if one is not intelligent he can't phantom what is God's will.


To figure out God's will we have to go back to the beginning and read what God told the first human pair:

“Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:28

From the above quote it's clear that God wants humans to live in all the earth and tame the animals then make the best use of natural resources as children of the Creator we are to CREATE so many things out of what God gave us on this planet.

Have we been doing this?
YES we have!
To be continued.....

Are we practicing what religious books say or what the west say?

Democracy is all about freedom of speech, expression, worship and association.

Part of what they call EXPRESSION is this gay thing and according to the Bible nobody should force what his own God set as morals or rules on others:

"Let the one who is unrighteous continue in unrighteousness, and let the filthy one continue in his filth; but let the righteous one continue in righteousness, and let the holy one continue in holiness. “‘Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to repay each one according to his work" Revelations 22:11-12

Holiness and intolerance are of two opposite sides the one showing apostle John what will happen in the endtime is Jesus Christ {Revelations 1:1} so whatever title anyone give himself whether pastor, prophet, reverend, shepherd, bishop, apostle or any other religious title Jesus Christ said:
"Don't judge anyone for me, let them be, i am coming to repay everyone according to their deeds"
So what is the assignment given to believers?

Jesus said:

"Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things" Matthew 28:19-20 compare to Act 1:8

Regarding how (true) disciples should conduct themselves in the society Jesus said:


“Look! I am sending you out as sheep among wolves; so prove yourselves cautious as serpents and yet innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16

So Christians are to mind our business which is disciple making WORK as for human laws set by human governments we are not to enforce it on anyone neither are we to enforce God's word on anyone we are to call sinners to repentance and it's not by force. Luke 5:32

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Bible is not yours yet you spent the whole day and night talking about what is written in it.

Ọmọ you're really really dumb o!

cornelboy:
Where are the questions they cannot answer?

Ignore the idiot.
If he wants to argue let him go and do it with Jews who are Jesus family that say Jesus is fake!

cornelboy:
Show me verses that says "all babies are God's friends". E no hard na.

Ọmọ please it's time to shun these idiots and use our time for profitable things.

At least with all their up and down it's clear that Charles Taze Russell is not the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization.

That's enough for them to carry in their heads for now.

I'm sure any of them can't think of raising that to gain cheap points again!

cornelboy:
Lol you've won. Take the trophy 🏆

Didn't i tell you that everything about JWs full him head?

Even though he can't answer any questions straightforward but as for JWs publication he has it all in his head!

achorladey:
Show me the update one that states Babies are God's enemies

That's your duty nah!

achorladey:
You have been running from pillar to post to cover your lies and manipulations. Asking what year? The Jehovah that gave you that light then is different from one that gave you new light.
Save your head.

Ask Jesus why some things changed when he came nah!

achorladey:
Denial don set in. New light ko future light ni

Ntor!


It's old publication that has been UPDATED!

The funny thing you people don't know is that you can never ever silence a JW unless we come to you house and that's why we will leave but on social media unah go cry tired!

achorladey:
Go and ask your GODS or start thinking outside the box to get it.

Ọmọ you're just funny, when you already know about our NEW LIGHT!

advocatejare:
MaxInDHouse the devil’s incarnate will come and deny jw.org now, he is more knowledgeable than his GB

Ask him what years?
Àbí you've forgotten our new light again?

advocatejare:
I didn’t expose your lies because I wanted you to accept that you lied, I know that you and deception are Siamese twins, you won’t accept. I exposed you with proof so that those following this thread now or later will see you for who you are: you lied that apostates don’t start threads, you were busted as Templee did, you lied that you don’t show up on apostates’ threads, you were busted cos you showed up on Templee’s thread after you have labelled him as apostates and he himself disclosed that he is an apostate as he was a former member of your JW cult

Busted! Busted!! Busted!!!
You're just full of frustration but it's OK when interested persons come in they'll see the difference between what you're saying and the truth!

achorladey:
Come and see how they deny their religious organization publications and their teachings to propagate babies are enemies of Jehovah

Publication of what year o?

cornelboy:
Don't mind him sir. I had often said he's unreasonable.

He obviously don't believe in the Bible God nor take the Bible itself serious.

Gbam!

But don't try JW matter with him o that one full him brain like fufu. Nah Bible hìn no wan believe again!

Aemmyjah:
He claims to know but knows nothing
He has the only edition of the Bible that says Eve had girls before she gave birth to Cain

Henceforth girls are Satan's seeds.

https://www.nairaland.com/7807521/see-another-reason-why-god

Excellent!

cornelboy:
Oh God destroyed his friends. I understand

Apostates have locked his brains in a box so he can't think outside it because even a toddler will know that whatever makes God destroy babies along with their parents it means both the parents and their babies are God's enemies.

Abraham challenged God saying:

“Will you really sweep away the righteous with the wicked? ... It is unthinkable that you would act in this manner by putting the righteous man to death with the wicked one so that the outcome for the righteous man and the wicked is the same! It is unthinkable of you. Will the Judge of all the earth not do what is right? Genesis 18:23-25

But someone whose brains has not been locked up in the box of apostasy can't figure out that all those destroyed were GOD'S ENEMIES!

cornelboy:
Thank you

You're welcome my brother!

Don't forget achorladey is an APOSTATE o so according to bolabizzle we've been ARGUING with an APOSTATE.

Bunch of stupid people!

achorladey:
Tell us where he said he destroyed the babies in those cities because they are his enemies. Tell us where he destroyed the first born in Egypt because they are his enemies?
That your intelligence must think outside the box today.

When God wanted to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah Abraham began negotiation from 50 down to 10 RIGHTEOUS people.

Well maybe God has friends who are NOT righteous but He still destroy them anyway!

cornelboy:
Two different stories here.
God wasn't planning to destroy Egypt but just the firstborn as a warning to Pharaoh and Egypt. It was different during the flood, God was destroying everything. If babies were innocent or God's friends, God would have preserved them.

Jesus' brother gave a talk based on what was WRITTEN in the scriptures misinformed churchgoers want to correct him.

Oya nah!

Emusan:
When it's obvious that you're the one who doesn't understand yourself.
What is the point of Jesus and Jehovah making PERFECT INTERPRETATION OF THE SCRIPTURE to GB when the interpretation still contains error? Or Did Jesus and Jehovah give GB any instructions? So did Jesus and Jehovah help GB to interpret any Bible verse? So the GB are lying that Jesus and Jehovah HELPED them when it comes to Bible interpretation?
Even though that's not actually happened but Moses and your GB are different case.
Your GB lied that Jesus and Jehovah HELPED THEM CONCERNING BIBLE INTERPRETATION.
No matter how you spin it, you can't claimed to be INSPIRED and still have ERRORS.

Now Moses case don different!

achorladey:
Liar and manipulator. I should answer questions to support lies and manipulations
Apply your military intelligence here and stop bringing competition between your GODS and us here. You can knack your head on the ground as sign you worship them. Na you get your head. When you come here to manipulate and peddle your lies stop peddling insanities, madness and asiere when those manipulations and lies are refuted.
Show me one verse that says babies who don't know left from right God's enemies. Don't hide behind Deuteronomy 6 and your if such if such if such

God destroyed all His enemies outside the Ark in Noah's day, Sodom and Gomorrah in the days of Lot, First born in all the land of Egypt, the inhabitants of Jericho, the inhabitants of Amalek and Jerusalem is 607 b.c.e

Babies weren't spared in any of these instances!

That's what i figured out INTELLIGENTLY!

cornelboy:
I won't lie to you, I haven't seen any meaningful thing in any of his posts.

According to Jesus of Nazareth:

“When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it passes through waterless places in search of a resting-place and finds none. Then it says, ‘I will go back to my house from which I moved,’ and on arriving, it finds the house unoccupied but swept clean and adorned.  Then it goes and takes along with it seven different spirits more wicked than itself, and after getting inside, they dwell there; and the final circumstances of that man become worse than the first. That is how it will be also with this wicked generation.” Matthew 12:43-45

All humans are like enemies of God right from the fetus in our mothers womb {Psalms 51:5} but then God's people found us and study the Bible with us so that we can become God's friend. So if later we now decide to format what we know about God thinking we want to be free what do you think will happen?

Of course wise thoughts will no longer flow because only those working with wise ones become wise {Proverbs 13:20} and since humans can't do without friends definitely we will make friends who are foolish. Then when it's time to share thoughts of wisdom what do you think such a person can contribute? Matthew 12:34-35

cornelboy:
Why didn't God save them during the flood if babies were his friends?

He will not answer rather he will continue to insist you answer him.

That's the tactics apostates used to catch them and made them apostates.

If you're saying JWs can't question the GB but you feel like helping someone who is a follower of GB to gain freedom then why can't you answer his questions to prove you're better than their GB who shouldn't be questioned?

advocatejare:
Here you are commenting on an apostate’s thread.
Did you not know at this point that he was an apostate?
Your comment was made on the page 23 of his thread, so you can’t lie that you were not aware that he is an apostate before you commented on his post
https://www.nairaland.com/7296359/experience-jehovahs-witnesses-organization/22#116445975

Try to use your brain for once because your desperation or anger can't do natin!

Look at bolabizzle who claims he's an apostate right on this thread does he really know the meaning?

Of course if such a person wants to lie against Jehovah's Witnesses and doesn't want us to come and pour sand in his garri he will claim he's an apostate so as to keep us away.

But when we engage him and find out ourselves we know what to do afterwards! 1Thessalonians 5:21

So you can't tell us how to apply our rules we know!

Dtruthspeaker:
The atheists who call's himself LodReed is another lying demon.

You think you worth our attention shey?

Ọ̀DẸ̀. Keep typing gibberish awaiting JWs to come and cool your thirst {Luke 16:24} for fruitless arguments! Titus 3:9

advocatejare:
The screenshots below expose your idiocy, stupidity and deception

Now look carefully at what you yourself pasted!

It's my brother that called my attention to his profile showing that the guy is an apostate and since then the guy keep begging for my attention on this forum;

cornelboy:
Hahahaha. He will learn sir

He presume a lot and feels that's the way things should be among us even when the apostates are telling him that JWs know the GB aren't inspired he keeps arguing that his own JW cousins thinks differently.

Ọmọ why do some just feel good lying like this?

Well i think it's time to ignore him he's truly the most stupid of them all!

bolabizzle:
I screenshot and sent most of what he typed via WhatsApp to my cousins. They were completely angry that I kept calling him "your fellow witness brother".

Since his fellow brothers have denied and rejected him, even calling him an apostate, Max is now my brother whether he likes it or not. . I won't reject him the way his members quickly reject people.

And max even if you deny me as your brother, you know deep down in your heart that all what you've typed today, you can NEVER say it in a kingdom hall during one of your weekly meetings. So whether you like it or not, whether you accept it or not, we are brothers.

Dont fear, I won't shun you.

Now i know you're just lying to feel happy!

No JW will say the Governing Body is inspired.

Even the apostates here keep correcting you they know that's our belief that the GB aren't inspired still you're shooting yourself in the foot.

achorladey:
He will come back and say you can never be his brother .

Of course he is NOT my brother.

BROTHER means anyone to whom i'm related either through blood, business or faith.

So if he is not related to me in any of the three then he remains my NEIGHBOUR

Note how Jesus puts it:

When talking about NEIGHBOURS he used a Samaritan (though an Israelite) as example! Luke 10:29-37

But when taking about BROTHERS Jesus direct attention to those having the same line of thought with him! Matthew 12:46-50

So bolabizzle can only be my neighbour for now not my brother!

bolabizzle:
Good! I agree with you Max.

The problem is witnesses I argue with including my cousin's say the direct opposite of all you just typed. I have attended some of your meetings and what I hear is the direct opposite of what you are saying right now. Even in your prayers, you people thank Jehovah for providing his holy spirit to the faithful and discreet slave who continue to dish out spiritual food at the proper time. From that prayer you people are claiming that the spiritual food , (Doctrines, teachings, publications etc) is from the governing body who is inspired by God's holy spirit.
Your publications have also stated that questioning or doubting spiritual food from the faithful and discreet slave is equivalent to rejecting Jehovah and his message because it is only through them that Jehovah feeds and instructs his followers on earth today.

But you've made it clear that such idea is wrong so I will do well to let your members know that such thinking is wrong. They are not inspired by God. They write and publish what they feel is correct based on their own understanding of God and the scriptures. And there is nothing wrong in not trusting them or questioning their teaching because they are imperfect like you and I.

Thanks for atleast being realistic and saying the truth....But please, do not for a second think of deleting or modifying all what you have typed in this thread today. We've made screenshots of them. Am just letting you know because you seem to have a way of denying or lying when under pressure.

We are cool bro. no problem.

If you don't avail yourself for Bible study with us you can't understand a single thing about how the organization operates!

The GOVERNING BODY are like any other JW throughout the world so they're not inspired in anyway.


The last time someone got inspired was when John the apostle penned down the last book of the Bible and God said NO ADDITION NO SUBTRACTION! Revelations 22:18-19

What remains afterwards is humility to figure out the little group God's Holy Spirit is guiding to lead God's people in doing God's work.

They depend on the inspired writings because they themselves are not inspired.

When the apostles asked Jesus how interested individuals living during the endtime can know where to get guidance regarding the doing of God's will Jesus said:

So in response they said to him: “Where, Lord?” He said to them: “Where the BODY is, there also the EAGLES will be gathered together" Luke 17:37

BODY means the little group of anointed brothers of Christ who were chosen to lead God's people during the endtime:
GOVERNING BODY!

EAGLES means individuals who have far sights to see the best performance organization so just like EAGLES they GATHER around the BODY.

He who has ears let him listen! Mark 4:9