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Prosper1912:
Meself tire oo
Why taking Panadol for another man headache.

The more you respond to them the angrier they become so instead of arguing with them why not leave and look for sincere and honest hearted individuals contemplating something good to learn about the one and only true religion?

NairaLTQ:
The only group practicing Christianity with appropriate fruit to show for it according to MaxInDHouse and his assistant Janosky. A fellow elder with Maximus!
SMH!

Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine. 1Thessalonians 5:21

How many JWs have you caught within your neighbourhood with this act?

If you ask a Jew today about Jesus of Nazareth you will surely hear a lot of horrible things like:

©He never existed as a powerful prophet.

©He was gay always around males and never got married.

©He was sleeping with Mary Magdalene, she got pregnant for him and later had a son.

©He practiced spiritism and magic to deceive gullible people.

©His mother was promiscuous but lied to his father so he's a bastard.

©He was a cannibal and he taught his disciples to practice cannibalism.

©His disciples stole his body and lied that he has resurrected.

©He lied that he will demolish the temple and rebuild it in three days.

But with all these reports his disciples proved to be the most peaceful, best preachers and teachers among the Jews in the first century.

Many of them were arrested, persecuted and even executed like their leader who was executed like a common criminal.

In the year 2017 the Russians government led by Vladimir Putin labelled Jehovah's Witnesses a EXTREMIST GROUP but at the same time the same man awarded the family of Jehovah's Witnesses as the model Russian family worth emulating by all Russians.

So if anyone is always coming up to spread bad news about a certain group try to find out the motive in order not to end up spreading what can lead you to kick against God! Exodus 23:1-2

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Emusan:
You said Russell was the founder but Jesus bought it from him.
By the way, you said Russell was not a JWs but your organisation said he's the seventh Angel which means Russell and your Jesus are both Angel.
Double wahala for this worshipers of the lying 8 old men in Warwick.

My own cup of coffee!

Courz:
No. The Governing body are not your teacher. They are your God because you disregard the words of Almighty God and Jesus and uplift the words of your Governing body who have admitted that their doctrines are mistakes. Your prefer their mistakes to the words of God.

No wahala that's my own cup of coffee!

jaephoenix:
Rule number 1 where?

That's between my brother and i sir!

jaephoenix:
Care to show me the particular bible passage?

Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Matthew 10:16

Jesus' disciples are sheep in the midst of wolves so they must be WISE as serpents and HARMLESS as dove!

achorladey:
Óya ye ma sun
Gba ko je hain
14:18. And another angel.—The corporate body which Pastor Russell organized to finish his work. See Rev. 8:3-5, which describes the same matter as here narrated. Came out from the altar.—The place of sacrifice. The SOCIETY
is maintained by the sacrifices of the saints. Which had power over fire.

I have answered the OP regarding the title "FOUNDER" so there's no further need for arguments i'm free to worship my God just as you're also free to worship yours.
Go and worship your own God!

achorladey:
Come come come

Janosky

MaxInDHouse

Cornelboy

Aemmyjah

Prosper1912


and see your GODS lying and manipulating the scriptures from the beginning of their existence with the chief culprit pastor Charles Taze Russell

10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel.—Pastor Russell was the seventh angel.—Rev. 3:14

25:10.
8:3. And another angel.—Not the “voice of the Lord,” mentioned in the preceding chapter, but the corporate body—the WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY, which Pastor Russell formed to finish his work. This verse shows that, though Pastor Russell has passed beyond the veil, he is still managing every feature of the Harvest work. “THE WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY is the greatest corporation in the world, because from the time of its organization until now the Lord has used it as His channel through which to make known the Glad Tidings.”-Z.'17-22; Rev. 14:18; 19:17.

Once they were very powerful, but they are quite harmless now. The Lord (Joshua-Savior) has humbled them all by His own Sword of the Spirit in the hands of Pastor Russell.


Ask them who formed or founded watchtower. They will deny. Liars and manipulators.


Cc: Emusan

Oteneaaron

Courz

Dtruthspeaker

advocatejare

It's OK go and worship your own God!

Prosper1912:
Where e wan start from when e nor get anything sensible and reasonable to say.

No one can decide for delkuf now everyone has presented their opinion.

Courz:
Of course, with Bible Verses not assumptions from Men who have claimed they are not inspired by the Holy Spirit. How can you listen to Men who have admitted that their doctrines are mistakes? It is better to follow the Bible than following the words of men that change.

It's OK delkuf can decide on his own as for me the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses are my teacher!

Courz:
Oh you are now saying no need to argue because we have shown from the Bible exactly why this your doctrine is demonic. The Bible never called Jesus Angel Michael. God himself never called him Angel Michael. Jesus himself never said he is Angel Michael. From Genesis to Revelation, you will never see the words Jesus is Angel Michael in Heaven. Jesus is Angel Michael. Jesus is known as Angel Michael in heaven before he was born. These are what Watchtower claimed with no Biblical evidence. And you know your Watchtower are not inspired by the Holy Spirit. How can you argue over what will soon have New Light?

Now Because we have shown how faulty your logic are in concluding, you are now ashamed and are now saying no need to argue. I thought you will come here with your usual arrogant self to argue. Ewu!

It's OK he is now ready to prove the JWs wrong!

There's no need arguing fruitlessly, with all the arguments i'm sure the OP has picked one or two things he can use in the Bible to challenge the JW.
According to the OP today is D-Day.

Let him prove his visitors wrong!

Aemmyjah:
The people atheists would blame for all the wars, slavery and role in conflicts are this ones this baby atheist say would not kill. Russia and Ukraine are regarded as twins or sisters. Have you heard what the archbishop of the churches said regarding the wars
What about the Crusades, Inquisition, Opium war?
The nations that fought in the 2 world wars were predominately Catholic
I am also an ex-pentecostal and felt Catholic would be the right place with God's approval but i did an unbiased research - too much blood in their history and a religion that play politics cannot be clean

Why are you trying to make him feel like a liar?

Few rhetorical questions will do if he is truthfully NEUTRAL!

cornelboy:
Just one verse that says babies are God's friends or righteous or innocent will save you from your mumbo jumbo

Please when someone DESTROYS could those DESTROYED be His friends?

Aemmyjah:
An atheist calling himself a neutral in religious matters

Rule number one.

You must not say to a suspect:

"You are lying"

jaephoenix:
Good. I jump into topics about Yahweh cos the Christians call out atheists. Notice I(and most atheists) only comment in few Christian threads. The threads they talk about how they worship, Night watch etc, I dont interfere.
Get it?

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
In a big market you will find different sections:
Books, clothes, shoes, jewelries, beauty products, farming tools, animal foods and finally food stuffs.
You are like a person who says he has nothing to do with food but is always found in the section of the market where different kinds of foods are sold.

On this forum there are numerous sections yet you who claims there is no God always comes into the section where people talking about God often converge.

Go and check your profile once again and see the section where you're most active yet you're saying to yourself "there is no God"

jaephoenix:
Honestly with actions, I'd rate JWs lower scores in the 'Christianity ratings'. I'm a neutral here and an atheist(and an ex-pentecostal). The best christians would be Catholics. They are least discriminatory and least likely to hate or kill a non-catholic. Pentecostals are laced with hate, malice, deceptions etc. JWs are the most deceptive. Just like you. You keep telling us you're the best thing since sliced bread but your actions speak differently. With multiple reports of child mol@station and the way you people ignore them, I don't trust you.
So if I was a Christian, I'd be catholic or one of these Orthodox denoms. They aren't perfect but they are slightly better

This is where you missed it all!

According to the Bible the one and only proof of a Christian group is their ability to stay away from military action and politics.

As for scandals there is no religion on this planet that can stand out in that.

Jesus never promised that scandals won't be mentioned in the midst of his disciples because he is gathering sinners not righteous {Luke 5:32} so the one and only proof of Christ working with a group is their ability to settle matters amicably without resorting to military action! Matthew 10:16

Prosper1912:
U see @emusan
U guys that calm that u know the truth are just a bunch of confuse fellow contradicting eachother all in the name to oppose Jehovah's witnesses that teaches the truth, and yet if they ask u guys to teach yr doctrine u guys we start beating around the bush cause u have nothing to offer.
@ courz said the name Jehovah is from satan
@ allthelight said Jesus Christ is not an angel
@ emusan said the founder of his religion is Jesus
@ Dtruthspeaker up till now call answer this simple question if the "WoRD" mention at john 1 vs 1 is Jesus Christ Yes or NO.

My brother the problem they're having with JWs is not about doctrine per say because we all know that when we talk about doctrines two out of all the religions claiming Christians don't have the same doctrine.
There main problem is what Jesus illustrated at Matthew 25:31-46.
In that illustration Jesus categorized those who are claiming "BELIEVERS" in two separate parts:
SHEEP: This ones were able to IDENTIFY his representatives and supported them with their time, energy and resources.
GOATS: This are those claiming believers but failed to IDENTIFY Jesus' representatives they're just worshiping to suit their desires.

So today these people are forming alliance against God's organization because they don't want to acknowledge anyone as Jesus' brother whom they're to support in doing the work Jesus assigned to his disciples each of them just feel like doing what they feel is OK.

If you observe them closely you will see that they're shying away from mentioning the name of their church, not that they don't attend services in worship centers but they're not ready to support fully any ministry so to stay on their own and do whatever they feel is good enough for Jesus they will rather claim INTERDENOMINATIONAL meaning they're not in full support of any ministry they can switch lanes {Matthew 7:13-14} unlike true disciples of Christ who have the same line of thought! John 17:22

No wonder Jesus said he will tell them:

"I never knew you get away from me you workers of lawlessness" Matthew 7:23

Lawlessness in this case refers to their unwillingness to adhere to the doctrine of any group. So when they see Jehovah's Witnesses sticking to the teachings of the GB they feel really bad knowing fully well that they're not ready to acknowledge any ministry as Jesus' work!

cornelboy:
Hahahaha

They need to know the difference between the misinformed religionists who gets provoked easily during a discussion and a disciple of Christ who will skillfully and intelligently handle the situation!

MyGodhealme:
https://www.youtube.com/live/F0VpglNk6BY?feature=shared

These men you revere as PASTORS are ATHEISTS disguising as ministers of Christ {2Corinthians 11:14} they are making you atheists like them while they make millions out of your gullibility.
Of course everyone wishes to have the best of life now and for our situation to change for the better but that's not what Jesus promised his own disciples:

“Keep on, then, seeking first the Kingdom and his righteousness, and all these other things will be added to you.So never be anxious about the next day, for the next day will have its own anxieties. Each day has enough of its own troubles. Matthew 6:33-34 compare to Luke 21:34-36

How do you think atheists are multiplying each day?

It's due to fake promises like this that's leading them astray, and by the time they discover it's not fought coming they will hate God and His words with passion concluding that God doesn't exist. Psalms 10:4

You may choose to hate me for this but know that it's the truth from Jesus of Nazareth {Matthew 24:9} for now believers endure all of these things happening till the end {Matthew 24:13} our relief is coming when God's Kingdom come, that's why Jesus admonished us to continue praying for God's kingdom to come {Matthew 6:10} because that's the only solution to mankind's problem.

Meanwhile don't be envious of those living large now and don't see them as having God's blessings {Psalms 73:1-14} of course riches do come by chance {Ecclesiastes 9:11} but don't think it's part of promises from God to His loyal ones otherwise all servants of God supposed to be rich materially speaking:

Are they ministers of Christ? I reply like a madman, I am more outstandingly one: I have done more work, been imprisoned more often, suffered countless beatings, and experienced many near-deaths. Five times I received 40 strokes less one from the Jews, three times I was beaten with rods, once I was stoned, three times I experienced shipwreck, a night and a day I have spent in the open sea; in journeys often, in dangers from rivers, in dangers from robbers, in dangers from my own people, in dangers from the nations, in dangers in the city, in dangers in the wilderness, in dangers at sea, in dangers among false brothers, in labor and toil, in sleepless nights often, in hunger and thirst, frequently without food, in cold and lacking clothing. 2 Corinthians 11:23-27

So real believers don't think much of what we can get now because all is VANITY! Ecclesiastes 1:2

May you have PEACE!

cornelboy:
Babies will be destroyed again and again. Doesn't matter whether they are gift from God or not
So far, no verse says babies are God's friends or innocent.

From whom do we have perfect GIFTS?
©Life.
©Plants good for food, healing and producing oxygen?
©Animals as pets and food.
©Water that we use for cooking, bathing, washing and drinking.
©Materials good for building fine houses where we stay during heat and cold whether.

Are they not GIFTS from our Creator?
So why did God promised not to do anything again to wipe all these things away {Genesis 8:21} but still DESTROY humans along with all their BABIES in Sodom and Gomorrah?

Surely those BABIES destroyed aren't His friends but ENEMIES:

"You must not bow down to them nor be enticed to serve them, for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires exclusive devotion, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon sons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation of THOSE WHO HATE ME" Exodus 20:5

Those who hate Him are His friends i suppose?

AllenSpencer:
Silence!

Excellent!

jaephoenix:
So what are you doing in a thread created by an atheist?

I'm here because of the mention of a title that has a lot to do with me but nothing to do with ATHEISM:
"GOD"

jaephoenix:
They claim so. Same way you claim here too. Do you expect me to go to their house to ask all of them and also ask you too in your own house?

What about the adage that says:
"actions speak louder than words"?
That's the edge true believers have above all others.
If you someone is your king surely all moróns will take you for your word but true believers will first consider what the supposed king say and closely watch how you concur, whatever makes you undermine or ignore the utterances of the one you call "king" shows you are lying.
So i ask you again:
What proof do you have that these people BELIEVE (TRUST) in a god?

LikeAking:
Which help can u offer to her, if she is truly in need. Allow her breath…

I believe she's the one calling for trouble!

She already knows her former religionists and how they view the religion she's now following so if truly she doesn't want any trouble she could have kept it to herself but coming to social media to rub it in their face.

The truth is that all religionists always feel like calling on others to join them and that's what she's stylishly doing but then only one religion has what it takes to really convince intelligent, sincere and honest hearted individuals.

So it's not just what your preferred God say but the benefit that all in your neighbourhood will enjoy as you are practicing what your God says whether they worship your God or not!

jaephoenix:
The definition of an atheist is one who doesn't believe in a god.

So what proof do you have that these people BELIEVE (TRUST) in a god?

jaephoenix:
They are all christians. Whether he's a JW or not

Now you're lying to your own soul!

What if i tell you that they are atheists?

You don't just lay claims, you back it up with proof. That has always been your motto!

Are they PRACTICING what Christ taught?

If not then you're just shying away from facts staring at you!

sonmvayina:
you are calling Gods laws obsolete， what he says it is for ever。。。continue deceiving yourself。be gladly claiming a cult as GOds plane。。。

Did Abel Enoch Noah Abraham Isaac Jacob Joseph and Job lived by the laws given to Moses?

Ọmọ if not then it's not what we need to live in peace globally!

Psalms 39:1

SOFTENGR:
Lies

Don't tell me snails can't kill by biting o?

jaephoenix:
Your Christian brothers are constantly harassing Muslims on religion section everyday, you haven't for once cautioned them. Now atheists are harassing you guys, and you are suddenly defensive.
By the way, you're derailing this thread. I thought u said JWs don't derail threads but it looks like you're doing a fine job of it.
Please answer the question.

Quote a Jehovah's Witnesses among them and see me caution my brother!

Cybertroll:
Lol! I did answer your question. But I'll do so again.

No, you can't eat your son. Not because you CAN NOT but because you decide not to. It's not an impossibility.

Cannibalism is against God's law as well as man's law that's why you can't see any country throughout this planet where it's endorsed.

But as for killing and eating animals there's no country on this planet where you won't find an abattoir and it's animals that are slaughtered there for human consumption.

Do you know why God gave Israelites the law not to kill? Exodus 20:13
Ọmọ ancient Israelites have the right to kill those who aren't worshipers of their God just as they does to animals but once a person has become a worshiper of their God whoever kills such a person has committed murder from the standpoint of their God.
Do you think animals could be worshipers of the same God who detests/forbids the killing of His own worshipers?