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Christianity Etc › Re: Does A Man & Woman Become Husband&Wife After Sex Or After A Church Marriage by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:38pm On Mar 26, 2023
MindHacker9009:
Deuteronomy 21:13
13 "After that you may go in to her and be her husband, and she shall be your wife."
1 Corinthians 6:16
Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”
OK let's talk about what God's word says since that's what you want.

This is what God said in the beginning:

Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. Genesis 2:24

Is it by having sex first that they become husband and wife or after a public declaration that they're no longer under their parents? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Does A Man & Woman Become Husband&Wife After Sex Or After A Church Marriage by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:20pm On Mar 26, 2023
MindHacker9009:
You have started you stubborn arguments here again and bringing that your organisation in again.
Guy you need help walahi talahi!

You're talking about MARRIAGE and why it's not necessary for a priest, pastor or court official to join them together before they can start having sex as a couple.

So i'm telling you that the public declaration is what makes everyone present accept them as a couple, if someone should snap a picture of either Muhammad and Aisha Buhari or Bola and Remi Tinubu or Aleho and Tosin Dokpesi kissing publicly in any part of this planet it will be taken as a couple publicly displaying affection but it will become a scandal when it's between any of those men with any other woman apart from those they publicly declare as their wives!

So whether it's in the church, mosque or court that the declaration took place it's compulsory they must be publicly declared as married before they can both enter into a private room without anyone raising a eyebrow! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Pair Of Bible Verses That Contradict One Another by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:09pm On Mar 26, 2023
MaDaRa01:
1.And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against
the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven. —Luke 12:10

Contradicts: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
—Romans 10:13

I used to ponder over those two, because if you commit a sin that can never be forgiven, you burn in the Lake of Fire forever —no turning back. So what
would happen if i call upon the name of the lord to be saved? These two verses can’t be simultaneously
true. They cancel out one another.
Sin against the Holy Spirit is speaking against the fine WORKS of God's Holy Spirit.

You can't call upon the name of God because you can't see God it's the fine WORKS of Holy Spirit that you will see before you can believe (trust) in God then it's after believing that you can think of calling upon the name of the person you can't see.

So those verses never contradict each other it's you who didn't understand the two!
Christianity Etc › Re: Does A Man & Woman Become Husband&Wife After Sex Or After A Church Marriage by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:58pm On Mar 26, 2023
MindHacker9009:
When you leave the quotations out which are the WORDS GOD then you have missed it all. In my road and in my city I only know a man or woman are married if they are wearing a ring or when I see them together or the lady tells me she is married so maybe you are referring to a small village where everyone knows each other and everyone in the village attends the marriage.
When we use the brain GOD has given and HIS WORDS in the quotation then before a man or woman sleeps with each other they they will have to be sure they are happy to marry one another because once the woman allows the man to go inside her then according to the WORDS OF GOD they have become husband and wife. According to the passage below, it says when the man has gone into the woman and she shall be his wife, and not after the priest has joined them together.
Deuteronomy 21:13
13 "After that you may go in to her and be her husband, and she shall be your wife."
The Bible only stands as a consultation room for those that believe (trust) it as God's word so they have to study it cover to cover before they can come up with a reasonable conclusion on whatever they're trying to figure out! 2Timothy 3:16-17
But in the case where you believe just a part or don't believe the Bible then our God's given brain should be the consultation room.

So back to what you asked: When a JW tells you something just humbly ask a question to know better not arguing stubbornly.
Did you attend the wedding ceremony of David Oyedepo, Bola Tinubu, Raymond Dokpesi?
Do you think any of these men can publicly kiss a woman in any part of this planet apart from the woman they declared as wife?
Well that's exactly what i'm telling you! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Does A Man & Woman Become Husband&Wife After Sex Or After A Church Marriage by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:09pm On Mar 26, 2023
When Jehovah say something He sent we His Witnesses to expatiate further for you to know why what He said is the best.

Let's leave quotations out for a moment and try use our God's given brains to figure out what you asked. What stops /hinders a man from sleeping with another man's wife or what hinders a woman from mating with another woman's husband?
Well the only thing is when everyone in the neighborhood has known that the person in question is married to someone, your husband or wife can easily sleep around when nobody is aware that he or she is married.

So the first thing to do is making a public declaration that this two are married then it has become a bad thing for any of them to be seen sleeping with someone else! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Purgatory Biblical: Is Purgatory Real? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:56pm On Mar 26, 2023
Purgatory is the result of misinformation about life in heaven.

First of all God never promised anyone life in heaven it was Jesus who begged his father for his co-rulers to come and stay in the same place that's why Jesus said:

“Do not let your hearts be troubled. Exercise faith in God; exercise faith also in me. In the house of my Father are many dwelling places. Otherwise, I would have told you, for I am going my way to prepare a place for you. Also, if I go my way and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will receive you home to myself, so that where I am you also may be" John 14:1-3

From Jesus' statement above it's clear that God never had any plan for mankind to live in heaven the only place God gave mankind is planet earth {Psalms 115:16} so Jesus taught his followers that life in heaven is in no way the same as we have here because in heaven they don't have gender so no one gets married {Luke 20:34-36} no room for indecision so if a person is going there must be focused 100%! Luke 9:62
So Jesus only have the power to train those that draw closer to him {John 6:44} but the one who selects co-rulers with Christ is God Himself {Matthew 20:20-23} just as God chose Jesus as the King the same happens to all his co-rulers.

Man supposed to live forever on planet earth or he returns to dust if he proves unworthy {Psalms 9:17} those who strive to please God during their life time will be remembered and brought back to life on this same planet! Job 14:13-15

So whoever has wasted his chances of making himself or herself a friend of God can't regain that once they died {Hebrews 9:27} if you live during the time Christians are preaching the good news of God's Kingdom your hope hings on whether you avail yourself for what they're preaching {Matthew 10:14-15} because angels are moving around penning down the names of those seizing this opportunity {Malachi 3:16} and if you lived before the Christians preach the good news then your hope hings on the laws of conscience {Romans 2:15} as for those that deliberately ignored conscience before Christianity and those who ignored the preaching of Christians there's no hope for them anymore after their death they will be forgotten in their graves forever! Psalms 9:17
Christianity Etc › Re: 'God gives And God Takes',how True Is This Statement by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:26pm On Mar 26, 2023
Truthsoldier:
I discovered lately that most people misunderstand this statement and this didn't start today,it's been there even right from the bible days... I can state here categorically that not all things that do happen to a believer is as a result of God been involved, most times it is as a result of ignorance that makes some people pass it off to be so. I know of a woman who lost 5 of her grown up children, she is a believer,a prayer machine but this evil happened to her,the old woman said that it doesn't shake her faith that it is God that gives and he is the one that takes. I feel that this statement is actually not true in some cases because some things that happen to people can either as a result of sin,family bondage or even demonic manipulation and ignorance of God,his word and his character but what do you think,I think we need to discuss this....
#DiscussingFactz
God opened His hands in the beginning to give us so many things {Matthew 5:45} but it's mismanagement that leads to loss of what God has given us not that God decides to take it back. Ecclesiastes 9:11-12

As regards life God never said He wants it back in the beginning rather this is what actually happened~

And Jehovah God went on to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living person. Genesis 2:7

“From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.” Genesis 2:16-17

Consequently, the woman saw that the tree was good for food and that it was something desirable to the eyes, yes, the tree was pleasing to look at. So she began taking of its fruit and eating it. Afterward, she also gave some to her husband when he was with her, and he began eating it. Genesis 3:6


So from the beginning God only gave life but it was due to man's rebellious attitude that death became his portion {Romans 5:12} the only thing God can do but which He chose not to do that day (for a reason) was to quickly set back the hand of time, mankind will continue to experience death until He (God) decided to stop death {Isaiah 25:8} but before then we must learn in a hard way to trust the giver of life whose instructions only can preserve us alive forever! John 3:16
Christianity Etc › Re: Question About Creation by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:10pm On Mar 26, 2023
play5050:
According to the holy bible, Adam and eve are the first people God created, Adam born Cain and Abel.

Cain kill Abel and he ran away to far north and got married there.

My question is, who give birth to the woman he married in the north?
After becoming father to Seth, Adam lived for 800 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. Genesis 5:4

Adam was sexually active within 800 years and during that time he had many sons and daughters so Cain married one of the female daughters of his father.
Christianity Etc › Re: Something Strange Is Happening On This Forum by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:03pm On Mar 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
You are invited on the 4th of April 2023 by sundown, JWs globally will observe the memorial our our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus!

Christianity Etc › Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:03pm On Mar 26, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Mugu, I always referenced the Bible to you because that is what you believed in. It is your book of reference which you carry all around under the scorching sun. Were you to claim the Hindu faith, I will quote the Hindu books too. Dumbo, how can you teach what you obviously lack knowledge of? How?
Your book is just useless like your god that's why you don't have anything to preach or teach other than running from thread to thread to criticize others.
For a change why not start a thread and preach mainly your religion using your book and the things your god says as practiced by your prophet, let's hear what is unique in the nonsense and ingredients you're fighting for! cheesy

The tribes of Israel were biologically twelve tribes going by the sons of Jacob (Israel) but the inheritance was shared by twelve tribes and Levi the third son of Jacob was excluded that's why i said thirteen tribes settled in the land of Israel: Ten tribes that settled in the northern part of Israel ~ Reuben, Simeon, Issachar, Zebulun, Gad, Asher, Naphtali, Dan then Manasseh and Ephraim who are the two sons of Joseph each stood as a tribe just as their father Jacob commanded them!
And the two tribes that settled in the southern region ~ Judah and Benjamin with the Levites.

This is what i was saying that day before you a Muslim who only read what your fanatic clerics quote inside our Bible jumped into the discussion to argue what you don't know! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 017 Why A Human Sacrifice For Mankind's Sin? by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:23am On Mar 26, 2023
You are invited on the 4th of April 2023 by sundown, JWs globally will observe the memorial our our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus!

Christianity Etc › Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:24pm On Mar 25, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Babbler, after about 5 years of our Convo, if you seriously think or believe there is anything you can teach me, you are even dumber than I took you for. Bring a Verse from your Bible that says THIRTEEN TRIBES descends from Jacob and I will bring TEN that says TWELVE TRIBES descends from him and everytime quoting the Bible. Oponu somebody saying me should go to a Sunday School! huh
Ọmọ i wonder why you're always thinking about what the Bible says.
Perhaps you know that your book is of no use that's why you're always running to the Bible.
Well it's not too late to trash that useless book, your worthless god, your shameless prophet and your hopeless religion for God's word.

Don't worry we will teach you for free nobody will flog you as your alfas often does at morikas! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Are All Leaders Appointed By God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:13pm On Mar 25, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Babbler, bring out where it is written in the Bible that THIRTEEN TRIBES descends from Jacob otherwise remain or in the alternative go have one with yourself
Go to any Sunday school lesson close to you as in any church they will teach you i'm not interested in chatting with you! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:57pm On Mar 25, 2023
achorladey:
Is the thread talking about Satan? Save your face.
Ọmọ i responded to Courz who is emphasizing on Satan it's you who jumped into our discussion that doesn't know what exactly i was discussing with Courz! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:56pm On Mar 25, 2023
achorladey:
You are still going round and round. You said.....
Your Jesus said.....
You did not choose me, but I chose you, and I appointed you to go and keep bearing fruit and that your fruit should remain, so that no matter what you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.
Jesus sef get mouth for that selection or not? grin grin grin grin
Choose in what sense? cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:32pm On Mar 25, 2023
achorladey:
Is the thread about killing? grin grin grin grin grin
You want to save your face.
Then stop talking about Satan it's all about the business and gifts accepted from businessmen! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:31pm On Mar 25, 2023
achorladey:
The question was who is the HEAD of the congregation grin grin grin grin grin na you dey tell me sey....... Jesus sef no get mouth for that selection grin grin grin
Well if you must know it's JEHOVAH who chose Jesus as the first person in His Kingdom that also chose the 144,000 the same way: through baptism of God's Holy Spirit.
So JEHOVAH hires and fires whoever Jesus' work is just to work with those chosen by his father as the head.

Paul said Jesus is the head of the congregation just as the husband is the head of the family.
Do you understand now? wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:21pm On Mar 25, 2023
achorladey:
Who is talking about killing here? Apply your intelligence and don't colour what I said. Here it again..... Oga save your face. I am not holding you back from doing that. What you say others do and classify them as agents of Satan, demons is what you do and what want everyone to call and classify you as true and real disciples of Jesus Christ. Is the thread about Killing? Ehn? grin grin grin grin grin
Apply your military intelligence grin grin grin grin
If there's no killing then Satan is not involve jọọ! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:18pm On Mar 25, 2023
achorladey:
Who is the HEAD of the congregation? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Who made him the head of congregation! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:17pm On Mar 25, 2023
achorladey:
When are we going to see........... show me a better performing performance group than your religious organization grin grin grin grin
Are you ready to present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses? grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:16pm On Mar 25, 2023
achorladey:
Oga save your face. I am not holding you back from doing that grin grin grin grin What you say others do and classify them as agents of Satan, demons is what you do and what want everyone to call and classify you as true and real disciples of Jesus Christ.
Apply your military intelligence grin grin grin grin
Killing is Satan's work {John 8:44} we aren't into that so those killing are the ones working for Satan the killer. We are practicing pure worship so if any of Satan's agents feel like glorifying pure worship with gifts we will accept it! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:12pm On Mar 25, 2023
achorladey:
How do you know it is Jesus that was talking? What is my business with whether Judas was absent or present? grin grin grin grin
Apply your intelligence grin grin grin grin na the same you be this some minutes ago....
Jesus choose to take his co-rulers to heaven with him {John 14:1-4} but the selection of his co-rulers is father's job. So if anyone falls back such a person will be removed from the ruling team by the father who selected them not Jesus!

That's what i told your friend, Jesus is not in charge of the selection of the Governing Body it's his father who hires and fires whoever He wants to! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:05pm On Mar 25, 2023
Courz:
Mad MaxInDHouse says they can collect money from Satan but that doesn't mean they follow Satan. But he forgets as long as you continue collecting money from Satan, you are part of his system. You are no longer One True religion again o. He wants to eat his cake and have it. You cannot dine with God and demons at the same time. He forgot that verse deliberately. 😂😂😂😂
Default mode again! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:04pm On Mar 25, 2023
achorladey:
You know it long before this time and you cannot colour the matter. You and your likes on this thread initially started with calling what we were discussing lies, you went ahead to denials only to come back and admit and hide behind pagans collect or support pure worship.
That's the summary. You can choose to start saving your face with whatever means you have at your disposal. We didn't lose focus on what they thread was all about. grin grin grin
Continue consoling yourself! grin

What we told you people is simple:

JWs don't invest in weapons but we receive gift from anyone who feels like supporting pure worship with his or her material possessions so if you have anything to say oya talk o we're with you but you can't set standards for us we will tell you our standard and our righteousness is from our God not any atheist! Isaiah 54:17 wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:49pm On Mar 25, 2023
achorladey:
You did not choose me, but I chose you, and I appointed you to go and keep bearing fruit and that your fruit should remain, so that no matter what you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.
Who dey talk for here? grin grin grin grin grin
Oya change mouth and start speaking using the upper and lower lips to utter different things grin grin grin grin
Who in particular is Jesus talking to here among the twelve apostles?
Remember Judas Iscariot is among the twelve o! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:37pm On Mar 25, 2023
achorladey:
We know you don't attribute their status as being one of your governing body member and a faithful slave as well as one of the 144,000 as work of the holy spirit and you know where that spirit came from grin grin grin grin grin grin

You can read your Matthew 20 again grin grin grin grin
Guy na JEHOVAH select the 144,000 Jesus sef no get mouth for that selection, if you want to learn read Matthew 20:20:23 cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:35pm On Mar 25, 2023
Courz:
Mad MaxInDHouse says they can collect money from Satan but that doesn't mean they follow Satan. But he forgets as long as you continue collecting money from Satan, you are part of his system. You are no longer One True religion again o. He wants to eat his cake and have it. You cannot dine with God and demons at the same time. He forgot that verse deliberately. 😂😂😂😂
OLÓDO! grin

Is it Satan that's making, buying, selling and using weapons or stupid humans?

Guy it's stupid humans that are bringing gift out of the gains they made in their stupid business not a spirit! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:31pm On Mar 25, 2023
achorladey:
No one is talking about accepting people into your midst grin grin grin grin and...... The rules that you don't follow paapaa grin grin grin grin
So wetin una dey tok? grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:27pm On Mar 25, 2023
Courz don enter default mode again o! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:25pm On Mar 25, 2023
Courz:
That's why we call the JWs the Original Pharisees. They are the Pharisees of our time. 😀😀😀
Tony Morris is no longer Faithful and discreet slave. And it wasn't Jesus that demoted him o. What a Scam of a Cult! 😂😂😂😂
Funny atheist; cheesy

Was it Jesus that made anyone a born again Christian in the first place? Matthew 20:20-23 cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:22pm On Mar 25, 2023
Courz:
What really baffled me in this type of hypocrisy is that when we were JWs, I remember very well how we will read Bible verses and preach everyday about how War will be no more, about how all the weapons of war will be destroyed and about how perpetrators of Wars will be destroyed. But Lo and Behold, Watchtower is a Perpetrator of War by making profits each time these weapons are produced and sold. You will hear from time to time how companies supply these weapons to all Military and other combat agencies in their countries and abroad each time a War is about to occur. Watchtower has been making money from this and they hide this info from JWs by telling them not to read anything about them outside their website. I don't know how a normal human can justify this action by saying that they are using the money they get from killing millions of people to move their ministry. That means you are the same with a Yahoo plus plus guy who kills people to get Yahoo money then carries that money to his pastor to advance his ministry. This is why I am asking them to show me Bible verses where Almighty God and Jesus specifically said they are in support of profiting from the murder of millions of People. So, using the money to spread demonic doctrines worldwide is supposed to cancel the wrongdoing of profiting from the killing of people? I want them to explain that logic to me because it also shows they don't worship Almighty God. They worship another entity.
Continue lying and swallowing your own lies! John 8:44 cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Accepts Free Money From A Gambling Company by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:20pm On Mar 25, 2023
Courz:
Hahahaha. Now you believe production of War weapons is no big deal. So, why preach against War when you are profiting from it? Why did Watchtower not inform you that they profit from wars? Why do you lie to people that you don't participate in the killing of people?
Continue dreaming! grin

We receive gifts from anyone no matter what you think, say or do but we won't accept you in our midst if you're not ready to abide by our rules, that's all! cheesy

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