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jaephoenix:
Vintage Max!
When stumped, turn around and make a remarkably stupid post and point at it as the response.
There's a psychological term for this…. I've forgotten it…

There's a difference between intelligence and wisdom:

Intelligence only help in situations that needs urgent attention but wisdom provides a permanent solution.

Imagine you travelled to a country and getting there you were welcomed and everyone was friendly so you decided to share with them what you brought which they gladly accept but then you want to become a citizen only for them to tell you that there are terms and conditions of becoming a citizen.

Will you continue giving them the gifts or turn around and walk away?

Well whatever makes you continue giving them the gift means you value their conduct even though you can't live up to their standard! 1Peter 2:12

So it's those glorifying pure worship but failed to become part of it that you need to question their sanity not those practicing pure worship!

jaephoenix:
What does this sentence mean?
Lol. Still trying to muddy the water? I’m better than that. Make a coherent statement, bro

Ọmọ this is about faith it has nothing to do with atheists like you!

jaephoenix:
But you said you guys do pray with unbelievers.
Nevertheless, does it make sense to accept gifts from criminals and immoral people, when you preach against them?

YES! It makes perfect sense as they know that they're condemning themselves for using their material possessions to glorify what they failed to humbly accept as truth!

jaephoenix:
Good ol' Max, tryna muddle issues up.
Is terrorism a sin or not?
So why accept proceeds from it?

jaephoenix:
What is the relevance of this post to mine?
You keep making a rubbish of this your 'Military Intelligence'

Terrorism (not weapon maker) is condemned by the world so it's the New World that stood out as different from both of them.

jaephoenix:
Same exact thing like a church accepting donations from prostitutes and Yahoo boys. And then praying for yahweh to double their blessing
Same shit you, Max have been preaching against.
Aint life interesting

JWs will never pray for or with you if you're not ready to live by the standard of our God! Proverbs 28:9; Jeremiah 11:14; John 17:8-9

Humble yourself and learn if truly you're interested in this matter!

jaephoenix:
Same exact thing like a church accepting donations from prostitutes and Yahoo boys. Same shit you, Max have been preaching against.
Aint life interesting

Hope your own people will rejoice with you for your son who is a Yahoo boy or daughter who is a prostitute.

jaephoenix:
Lets juxtapose gambling with terrorism here.

Terrorism is a lucrative business in the world but God's organization forbids it just as God's organization forbids fornication and killing but if someone's business is either weapon manufacturing, brothel or lottery as long as the world approves it we have no business with that and if the terrorist chose to glorify pure worship with his money it will be acceptable.
Simple and straightforward!

What do you notice, dear Max?

Do you know a terrorist who is celebrated by people from every nation?

This athiesm kept rendering your brains dead by the day.
A weapon manufacturer is celebrated globally by people in the world because they believe his products will be used by law enforcement agents protecting them.
A lottery owner is celebrated globally because people worldwide believe his business could bring them luck.

Please remind me of what people globally can celebrate a terrorist for?

Jesus asked a question about who people think he is and Peter said "Son of God" Jesus gave him excellent for that response. Matthew 16:13-19

So you're free to continue deceiving yourself!

NNTR:
Goats are confusedly and stubbornly incorrigible and is the reason why they dont easily take to correction
Ọmọ, stop the lie already, Peter, quite alright, said that Jesus is the Son of God, but he never said anything about Jesus, not being God
_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

brocab:
Jesus taught His Word on the road while he was travelling, He taught the people in the mountains, feeding the 5000, He taught in the towns villages, even to the Samaritans, He was witnessing to His disciples everyday teaching them the Word of God-how about the miracles these were definitely a witness to the people, so yes Jesus made noise he made Himself known to everybody that He is I AM the SON OF GOD.
Jesus had the right authority to claim His rightful place-Matthew tells of a messiah who will be called “Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins” and also be called “Immanuel, which means God with us.”
{Isaiah 9:6} also taught, "his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."
{Isaiah 7:14} predicted, "Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." In the New Testament,
{Matthew 1:22-23} confirms that the birth of Jesus fulfilled this important prophecy. Of course I now expect you to deny Jesus: so Faith and Works without Christ is dead. Jesus is known by many Names. Just like His Father He is known by Many Names.

YES! Jesus taught ONLY those who are willing to listen to him so they came to him and sit on the ground to hear him not unwilling pedestrians and passengers that your noise is disturbing! Matthew 12:19

brocab:
What is the youth lesson on {James 2 14 26}
James says that saving faith is proven to those who observe our lives by what we do, not based on what we say.
If a person's actions do not display a changed life for Jesus Christ, then his claim to be faithful to the Lord is dead.
Faith without works is dead in Christ, JW, your faith with your work's relies only upon Jehovah-there's a difference, you don't walk with Christ-you deny His name: and His Word.

You failed once again!

Masqueraders, Traditionalists, Buddhists, Jews, Hindus and Muslims do have kind and faithful members in their midst but their faith in general that's not producing fine WORKS.
So if you say you're working out fine as a person many faithfuls in various religions are also doing fine individually but it's the WORKS of their faith in general that has nothing to write home about.
That's what James is saying!

bobestman:
The originators of what you guys claim to teach or know. Isaiah 44:7 is your code. You can cry if you want. You guys will never get it

Ọmọ no be Isaiah you quote o!

STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!

I'm really glad you're hammering on this since many followers of this thread who formerly thought JWs don't pray at all can know why we always decline praying for the first time.
Thanks for helping to spread the Good News!

achorladey:
The below was your question yesterday....... See your response
Your question yesterday comes with no terms and conditions of which you are now using if. You see why I tell you to use your intelligence. When you discuss with people learn and don't go about boasting and bragging over nothing.
Now read the below again slowly and see it changes nothing to what I have been saying yesterday.....
Question: Do you pray with those not Jehovah’s witnesses?
Answer: according to MaxInDHouse.... YES. Whatever your terms and conditions really are, It still does not change the YES and what it means. Even when you attached your proverbs 28:9 (the terms and conditions) as it applies to those person following the laws of Jehovah's Witnesses before you pray with or for them. It still does not change the fact that they are still not Jehovah’s witnesses and you pray with them and for them.

bobestman:
I should not quote a book written by my ancestors? Are you okay at all? The bible is not a christian book but you guys use it. Religion can't save you. Your righteousness is what will save you

Who is your ancestor that you quoted in that statement?

achorladey:
Question: Do you pray with those not Jehovah’s witnesses?

YES! If they merit it and NO! If they don't merit it.
That's what terms and conditions means!

NNTR:
Why not rip 1 Corinthians 6:19 out of your bible then. Duh

Do you see the stupidity in your misyarn now? Where and when you were going on about 'churchgoer'?

The church (i.e. ekklesia) is a biblical and organic movement

You usually run errands for other people. Often people rely on me to do stuff for them
But many times too, I run errands for yourself. I rely on myself to do stuff, accomplish or execute stuff

God is no exception to this rule. God too relied on Himself to do stuff, accomplish or execute stuff. God sent Himself, and relied on Himself that sent Himself

John 10:33
The Jews answered Him,
“It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you
but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.”

Leviticus 24:16
Anyone who blasphemes the Name of the LORD must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel.
Any native-born Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the Name of the LORD must be put to death.

I'll spell it out for you, since you're slow on the uptake, meaning, you're slow to comprehend or process intellectually, that the Israelites knew that Jesus was calling and referring to Himself as God, and so classed it as blasphemy and were carrying about to effect Leviticus 24:16on Him.

You're just as bad and guilty of misconduct as those Israelites, and I am 150% sure that if the situation should present itself, and Jesus should appear now and say He is God, you, in your small mind, will be among the first, to castigate Jesus and rebuff Him that He is not God

The irony, is that every time you say Jehovah, you are referencing Jesus. Every time to pray to Jehovah, you actually are praying to Jesus

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Guy God run errand for no one so your stupidity has become really obvious!

NNTR:
Why not rip 1 Corinthians 6:19 out of your bible then. Duh

Do you see the stupidity in your misyarn now? Where and when you were going on about 'churchgoer'?

The church (i.e. ekklesia) is a biblical and organic movement

You usually run errands for other people. Often people rely on me to do stuff for them
But many times too, I run errands for yourself. I rely on myself to do stuff, accomplish or execute stuff

God is no exception to this rule. God too relied on Himself to do stuff, accomplish or execute stuff. God sent Himself, and relied on Himself that sent Himself

John 10:33
The Jews answered Him,
“It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you
but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.”

Leviticus 24:16
Anyone who blasphemes the Name of the LORD must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel.
Any native-born Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the Name of the LORD must be put to death.

I'll spell it out for you, since you're slow on the uptake, meaning, you're slow to comprehend or process intellectually, that the Israelites knew that Jesus was calling and referring to Himself as God, and so classed it as blasphemy and were carrying about to effect Leviticus 24:16on Him.

You're just as bad and guilty of misconduct as those Israelites, and I am 150% sure that if the situation should present itself, and Jesus should appear now and say He is God, you, in your small mind, will be among the first, to castigate Jesus and rebuff Him that He is not God

The irony, is that every time you say Jehovah, you are referencing Jesus. Every time to pray to Jehovah, you actually are praying to Jesus

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Confused Churchgoer!

So if those faithless Jews understood Jesus then what about his disciple Peter whom Jesus commended for saying Jesus is the SON of God? Matthew 16:13-19

Ọmọ Peter said Jesus is the Son of God not God and Jesus commended him!

thesicilian:
You seem to be dodging the most important question: if it's not about religion or God, why the resistance of the "people" towards a Muslim Muslim ticket?

Politicians don't believe in God they often use different tools to gain power:
©Money
©Weapon
©Beauty
©Eloquence
©Fame
©Spiritism/Witchcraft
©Blackmail
©Racism
©FALSE RELIGION

All these tools are used interchangeably by politicians so in Nigeria they're using it too!

bobestman:
Your problem is ignorance and i have done my best to help you but you no gree. The scripture is our story book. Your bible was copied and put together from different sources. So don't get angry when i quote something similiar to what you read. I know their origin. They have been b4 your relgions came

Point is don't quote religious books if you're not in agreement with RELIGION!

NNTR:
1. What is church in its original form?
2. What is the etymology of the word, church
3. What biblically speaking, in the real sense of it, is church?
1 Corinthians 6:19
Do you not know that your body is the temple of The Spirit of Holiness who dwells within you,
whom you have received from God, and you are not your own?
Are you or not, a temple of God?

No i'm not because i'm just one person Jesus said where two or three are gathered that's when he can be in their midst! Matthew 18:20

So the church is the body (congregation of believers) of Christ not a single Christian!

NNTR:
By strength of whose power did Elijah and Elisha both raise up dead people
Whose influenced did Elijah and Elisha both used to raise dead people?

They prayed to someone just as Jesus also did! John 11:41-42
So all of them relied on the one who sent them!
[quote author=NNTR post=122168786
The biblical illiterates of 21st century will not be those who cannot read & study the bible but those like you lot JWs, who cannot learn, unlearn & relearn
God said to Moses, I AM, I AM, which essentially is what Jesus seven times said.[/quote]So if anyone use the phrase "I AM" that makes the person God almighty shey?
Funny Churchgoer!
[quote author=NNTR post=122168786
In the John 8:58 you are referring to, the verbs Jesus uses are in stark contrast with each other: Abraham was, but I AM. There is no doubt that the Israelites understood Jesus’ claim to be the eternal God incarnate, (i.e. God in human being flesh, or God embodied in Jesus, as in meaning, God is given a physical form through Jesus) because the Israelites took up stones to kill Jesus[/quote]OK they understood him yet they didn't believe him: are you reading what you're typing at all?
Jesus himself said majority of his audience can't understand him {Matthew 13:14} between you and Jesus who is lying?
[quote author=NNTR post=122168786
Small minds can’t comprehend big stuff like, that Jesus called Himself, I AM (i.e. YHWH pka Jehovah), and used it, just like God did, so they resort to mocking and saying gaslighting things like 'your argument is lost!'.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}[/quote]So if small minds can't comprehend then it's not the fault of small minds after all they can't comprehend!

achorladey:
The question was, is it relevant?
I don't want you to peddle sorry over that for me. Despite the fact you know what terms and conditions means you still told us you pray with non Jehovah’s witnesses. Yes or no?

Obviously you don't know what terms and conditions really mean because it could be yes or no if terms and conditions are breached!

SeeThisLoser:
She is mixing SEED. It is an abomination !!!

What is SEED?

bobestman:
You want to enter another topic?

So speak solely on what has nothing to do with RELIGION since you say it is not relevant!

achorladey:
Is it relevant?
You still going round and round. In a nutshell you pray for those and with those not Jehovah’s witnesses. You have said yes to that repeatedly

If you don't know what terms and conditions means then i'm sorry for you!

STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!

achorladey:
And you were peddling your faithless miscreant, insults, curses and abuses over a tag

Abeg if a wealthy woman decides to keep two or three men in her mansion so as to take turns for her sexual pleasures has she committed ADULTery?
Note that she's financially capable of taking good care of them all!

bobestman:
It is not about the crowd. It is not even about religion. It is all about God and his word says " where two or three are gathered I am their in their midst" The primary focus should be God who gave the command to marry not about crowd or religion

Please remind me where the highlighted could be found!

bobestman:
The brainwashed are under religion cos it can save no one. It is full error. ALL or MANY always find the broad way that leads to destruction but the narrow way is only found by a FEW

My guy the point here is that large number of people must be present to witness the joining together of a man and a woman in marriage.
So the only thing that could make such really effective is religion otherwise everyone has something else to do with their time!

thesicilian:
First Nigerians have over a thousand religions, not 3. You can't just lump all Nigerian religions as "traditional religion", otherwise we may as well lump Christianity and Islam as "foreign religion" and say we have 2 religions in Nigeria.

Note that the churches have what is called CAN so they can choose delegates to represent them, likewise the Muslims and as for the traditionalists each will bring his or her own God if they feel like participating in the process none should be left out.
They should all agree after consulting their Gods on who should lead the people and it will make sense that it's not about what the people want but the will of the Gods!

thesicilian:
Second, if religion and the will of God does not matter in a democracy, why did your protagonist Obi spend more than 70% of his campaign time in the churches? And more importantly, why the overwhelming resistance by many to a so called Muslim - Muslim ticket?

This is where most people got it wrong.

It's called DEMOCRACY: Government of the people by the people and for the people.
Note that throughout the definition God wasn't mentioned. So this has nothing to do with the will of the Gods but that of the people!

Jking20:
Maybe you need to revisit Sunday school at your church to know more about the Bible. You're shameless dude, at this age? So pitiful 💔

So in your Sunday school voting a human ruler which is to be casted by different religionists and people of all sort could translate to God's will. Your Sunday school teacher tried jọọ!

Funny Churchgoer!
©Jesus is the temple himself in a spiritual sense so it's inside the temple that believers offer sacred service to God. The former temple was destroyed so by the time God raised Jesus from the dead {Romans 10:9} spiritual temple now replaced the physical.
©Elijah and Elisha both raised dead people.
©Misconception that's worrying you Jesus did not claim he's God, he said:

"Before Abraham i excited" it's misinterpreted to I AM and even the so called I AM wasn't the correct interpretation of what God said to Moses, God told Moses:

"I will prove to be what i will prove to be"

So your argument is lost!

NNTR:
John 10:18
Jesus answered them,
“Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”
1. Who in John 10:18, said, in three days, He will raise up the temple?
2. What is the name of the person called, who has power to raise dead people back to life?
3. Did Jesus call Himself, I AM (i.e. YHWH pka Jehovah), or not?

Ọmọ, your self conceitedness is going to be your downfall, be the end of you

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

thesicilian:
People think because he is popular means he was the will of God. What they don't understand is that God uses different types of people to bless his children from time to time. And God looks at the heart, not the outward appearance

The system is called "DEMOCRACY" which has been defined as the government of the people by the people and for the people.
So this has nothing to do with God's will but the will of the people, whether it's right or wrong from God's standpoint that's irrelevant as long as it is to be determined by casting votes not asking for God's viewpoint on the matter.
If it's to be about God's view then the three religion practiced by Nigerians should come out and decided then the swearing in should be through the three religions:
The gods of traditionalists, churches and Muslims so that the one been sworn in will know he is accountable to the Gods not voters!

JWs share the same line of thought with the early Christians {John 17:20-23; 1Corinthians 1:10} who believe that Jesus was in actual fact talking to someone who is able to SAVE him not to himself!

During his life on earth, Christ offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the One who was able to save him out of death, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. Hebrews 5:7

Paul concluded that Jesus was favorably heard.
Ọmọ humble yourself and learn from Jehovah's Witnesses, we will teach you freely!

NNTR:
Out of stupidity, denseness, ignorance, dullness and slowness, you fail to address the question that Jesus Called Himself God, Jesus called Himself YHWH pka Jehovah.

Stop the lie already, because David, in Psalms 110:1, did not see God, but rather, David, in Psalms 110:1 overheard God speaking

Stop another lie already, because, Stephen, in Act 7:56, did not see God, rather, Stephen, in Act 7:56, saw the glory of God and Jesus, standing at the right hand of God, metaphorically speaking. The point being made here, is that, within the Godhead framework, Jesus has equal status to the Father

So?
Doesnt take away the fact that Jesus Called Himself God, Jesus called Himself YHWH pka Jehovah.

Discussion is an exchange of thoughts and knowledge, while argument is an exchange of ego and ignorance.

I have no ignorance to trade you in with, all I have are butt naked facts, truths and realities, so meaning, you're left burying your head in the sand and blindly arguing with yourself

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}