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Waiting for your people to come and speak at least lets see how audible your gods are!

LikeAking:
A mouth they have, but they cannot speak; Eyes, but they cannot see; Ears they have, but they cannot hear; A nose, but they cannot smell; Hands they have, but they cannot feel; Feet, but they cannot walk; They make no sound with their throat. The people who make them will become just like them, As will all those who trust in them.

Continue decieving your self, your religion is all noise and nothing to show... Every one knows your God is ineffective. Your God is only effective in the days of ficticious men.

Your God has mouth,etc but can't use Dem.. Shame!

Very funny.

Autobot05:
you are tackling me instead of bringing facts that JW is the only church practicing Christianity .

Other churches evangelize too . My church goes to prisons and other places to evangelize

NB : I choose not to say I am a preacher because I don't want to take credit for anything. This is 9:33 am today and I've already spoken to someone about jesus and kinda convinced him to follow me to church . So don't tackle me that way again . I'm proud of being a Christian and I'd speak of jesus anywhere. I just don't want to be called a preacher

Your so called facts are also done by other churches so other churches are also practicing Christianity

Well before and after i accepted Christianity only JWs do visit as my neighbours coming to PREACH and TEACH what their God says about His Kingdom in my neighbourhood!

Unlike other religions where 90% of their members only pay money as members all JWs are trained and encouraged to go and PREACH and TEACH in their neighbourhood!

Autobot05:
Logical ?? Explain how JW is the only church practicing Christianity

Jesus is the man called CHRIST and it's only those obeying his command that could be rightly called CHRISTIANS.

You yourself said you can't preach yet you want to claim Christian whereas Jesus commanded all his disciples to go out preaching and teaching in all their neighbourhood! Matthew 28:19-20

The one and only group enforcing this order globally is Jehovah's Witnesses organization, no matter your condition you will be trained and encouraged to carry out that Jesus' order.


Do you know any other religion whose members are globally doing this? Act 1:8

If you don't then stop deceiving yourself!

Autobot05:
You probably made the wrong mention
He is the one that said JW is the only church practicing Christianity

Based on fact from the scriptures and logical reasoning!

Autobot05:
That's not the truth . Simple and short

It is that's why you have no logical rebuttal!

Autobot05:
The bolded is why I always have issues with you all Bye

Truth must be told!
Farewell!

MightySparrow:
Here you are again my friend. You are not far from the truth. But your brother, my sibling, one of JWs once told me that God no longer do miracles. He said those things perished with the Apostles.
What's your take on this?

MightySparrow:
I told you I don't debate atheists. I don't.

Come back and we'll chat when you have faith!

EMILO2STAY:
wetin this one dey talk. The word "HE" is referring to the man himself that is the real person. Man is not spirit that goes on to live after death.

Most people don't believe in what is written in the scriptures their thinking is in harmony with Hollywood, Nollywood and Bollywood movies where the spirit of a dead man or woman is hunting the killer.
So no amount of scriptures you quote or cite can help them to agree with you that the dead are conscious of nothing at all! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

Throughout the scriptures there is no instance of a single person whose spirit later hunt those who killed him.
WHY?
Because our breathing is what sustains us and once a person's heart stops beating the force that keeps us alive is gone only to be restored by the person who installed it in the beginning! Ecclesiastes 12:7 compare to Genesis 2:7

Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1

The analysis of this definition:
@ ASSURED EXPECTATIONS
@ WHAT IS HOPED FOR
@ EVIDENT DEMONSTRATION
@ REALITIES THAT ARE NOT SEEN

© We can't see God physically so to prove we have faith in the person we can't see we must keep in expectation of what this person has said as written in the scriptures! Habakkuk 2:3

© Our hope must bring us delight always just as a hungry person is delightfully waiting and savouring the smell of the food a chef is cooking for him.

© Through the way you are getting prepared as you sit down with your spoon, fork and other cutleries with full anticipation.

© Anyone seeing you can be convinced that you have something to eat even though they can't see the food yet.

For by means of it, the men of ancient times had witness borne to them! Hebrews 11:2

This is exactly how faithful men in ancient times proved their faith not that they're seeing God physically. So if you're claiming you too have faith like them then know that they are WITNESSES {Hebrews 12:1} that the God you want to worship is alive therefore you must exercise the same patience like them!

LikeAking:
Empty vessel's make the loudest noise...
Trado tins are not for kids, they are highly guarded secrets.. They will hardly show up, that's a normal thing.. Trado knowledge no be David and Goliath... Try understand.. Accept and respect your roots.. The only power that works hers is Africa, no let the colonialist decieve you.

LikeAking:
Next time use capital "G" to reference our God's. They are the Kings of all God's. U get?

Your pigheadedness is really hilarious!

So you think i'm just a common churchgoer shey?

Well i have sat one on one with professors in your traditionalist religion the likes of Peter Fatomilola these people proudly profess they're traditionalists just to prove they're not practicing the white supremacist's religion but then all they can say about their gods is material possessions which all other religions possessed a million times than they do.
Do you think any of your African religionists have riches to stand side by side with the white?

Well this is what one of the worshipers of the God of Abraham said about the God of Abraham and all other gods:

Our God is in the heavens; He does whatever he pleases. Their idols are silver and gold, The work of human hands. A mouth they have, but they cannot speak; Eyes, but they cannot see; Ears they have, but they cannot hear; A nose, but they cannot smell; Hands they have, but they cannot feel; Feet, but they cannot walk; They make no sound with their throat. The people who make them will become just like them, As will all those who trust in them. Psalms 115:3-8

I'm still waiting to see any of your people to come and prove this writer wrong by speaking convincingly about your useless gods!

Autobot05:
Well if you stay around me... you'll notice
I talk about jesus and the gospel but I don't think i qualify to be a teacher ( yet )

That is why you must associate with a religion that will train and encourage you {Hebrews 10:24-25} to obey what Jesus commanded {Matthew 28:19-20} no matter how fine your lifestyle as long as you can't preach and teach about God's Kingdom at least to the best of your ability then all your righteousness will be thrown bact at your face! Isaiah 64:6

That's what makes JWs the one and only group practicing Christianity!

All members must possess the SPIRITUAL SWORD {Luke 22:36} this sword is a full copy of God's word {Ephesians 6:17} if you're with it always you must be very careful because it can also cut you when you mishandles it! Hebrews 4:12

LikeAking:
NL traditionalist don't be intemidated, please take the stage.. Enlighten us with your wisdom.
Thank you..

elated177:
Follow Africa? What is follow Africa? Is Africa now a person? Has Africa become a god?
Three pages of nothing tangible.

When i told him nothing meaningful can come out of this thread he thought i was joking 100 years from now no traditionalist will come and say anything worth considering!

WHY?

Because their gods never gave them such brain for intellectual talks! Psalms 115:4-8

Ken4Christ:
It depends on the gospel the preacher preached. Even in the days of the early church, there were those who preached wrong gospel. And Apostle Paul cursed anyone who does that;
Galatians 1:8-9.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, PREACH ANY OTHER GOSPEL unto you than that which we have preached unto you, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
And the gospel is about the Lord Jesus. It's about the good news of how he died and rose again from the dead. On account of this, the free gift of salvation is available to all who believe it and confess Jesus as Lord and Saviour. This is the simple message of the gospel. So, do you believe Jesus died for you?
Do you believe that God raised him up from the dead? But you do not believe the second one. So, you are not yet saved.
Repent or you perish.

Guy it's obvious your stupidity is of the highest grade but let me burst your bubble of lies so it will be clear to you.

I was preached to just as Jesus commanded his disciples to go and preach {Matthew 10:11-13} Paul confirmed that it's by hearing this preaching that faith comes! Romans 10:17

So if you're not a liar then you shouldn't say a word to me since your Jesus came to you without any preacher let the same happen in my case because if you're the one talking to me now it means your story was made up so let that Jesus speak to me too after all it's the Jesus that approached you by itself not any preacher as the Bible says.

FxMasterz:
God is real.
Religion without Christ is vain.

The Bible mentioned all these things but since several religions are pointing to the same book yet contradicting themselves you can't conclude that it's all about Jesus of Nazareth.

You can't conclude that this confirms a specific religion yet.

Jokanem:
It’s natural to wonder why people die, especially when we lose someone close to us. The Bible says: “The sting producing death is sin.”​—1 Corinthians 15:56.

Why do all people sin and die?

The first humans, Adam and Eve, lost their lives because they sinned against God. (Genesis 3:17-19) Death was the only possible outcome of their rebellion against God, for with him is “the source of life.”​—Psalm 36:9; Genesis 2:17.

Adam passed on the defect of sin to all his descendants. The Bible says: “Through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned.” (Romans 5:12) All people die because they all sin.​—Romans 3:23.

How death will be eliminated

God promises a time when “he will actually swallow up death forever.” (Isaiah 25:8 )

To remove death, he must eliminate its root cause, which is sin. God will do this through Jesus Christ, who “takes away the sin of the world.”​—John 1:29; 1 John 1:7

The message!

yarimo:
Pastor ENENCHE don't worry obi won't ask for refund of his #2 billions bribe to Christian association of Nigeria CAN from you

Do you think that ibo man bribed all those people dying to make him their president?

Well i doubt it, one thing is clear Nigerians are tired of the first and second political party that has been in power since 1999 that's why they're all shouting his name.

As for religious leaders they're only playing the card to make them gain recognition everyone knows that PGO has won the heart of most Nigerian youths.

Ken4Christ:
Learning about Jesus doesn't make you a disciple of Jesus. You have to believe in him. You have to confess him as Lord. And this is what the scripture says.

Keep displaying your stupidity and deceitfulness!

Jesus sent his disciples out to go and preach from house to house! Matthew 10:11-13

He commanded them to teach whoever listens to their message! Matthew 28:20

Paul confirmed that it's impossible to believe without preachers! Romans 10:14

So how come yours totally contradicts this fine setting yet you want people to believe what you're saying?

Kelechi009:
Wow, this perspective is what I never thought about
Thanks
I would still go back & read your post all over again, so many things to unpack. I am currently in transit.

You're welcome my friend, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Ken4Christ:
Of course I do. He came into my life since 1986, filled me with his Holy Spirit that same year and he changed my life.

Says you but according to God's word Jesus sent his disciples to PREACH and TEACH in their neighbourhood {Matthew 10:11-13} that's how i got in contact with Jesus of Nazareth through HEARING what his disciples have to say {Romans 10:17} afterwards i began asking them questions and they taught me! Matthew 28:20

It was after i've been convinced that what i'm learning is the truth {John 8:32} that i decided to dedicate my life to God through the things i've heard in connection to Jesus of Nazareth and i accepted him as my preferred Master, Lord and King! Romans 10:14

So if you never passed through this stage ọmọ i doubt that Jesus that followed the back door o! 2Corinthians 11:14

Kelechi009:
Yes I dont mind, thank you

You're welcome!

God in His majesty has singers (Seraphs) making sweet melodious tunes for His pleasure in heaven. Isaiah 6:2
When King Saul was tormented by a wicked spirit it was the sweet melodious tunes from David's harps that's used to bring a relief to the King. 1Samuel 16:14-23

So music is good for our soul.
But then we shouldn't forget that the best of the best singers are perfect living beings called "angels" these creatures are highly gifted singers. Sadly a handful of them rebelled against God in heaven and they were driven away from his presence. Their gifts weren't taken from them so who will they please with their gift now that they've been driven away from their dirty posts in heaven? 1Peter 3:19-20; 2Peter 2:4; Jude 6

Well they love singing so they possessed certain humans afterwards that's why when some humans sing you will feel it in your soul.

But does this mean all music are demonic?

NO! As a Christian you need to be selective in your choice of music that's exactly what makes it difficult for most people to escape Satan's trap because many of those demons have transformed themselves into angels of light {2Corinthians 11:14} so they sing praises of Jesus as if they're working for him but don't forget that when they were doing so in Jesus' presence he silenced them! Luke 4:41 compare to Act 16:17-18

So if you don't know God's will it will be really difficult to distinguish between demonic songs and songs composed from the hearts of gifted humans who are just talented.

That's why Jehovah's Witnesses don't listen at all to any song called "gospel" rather we prefer the normal secular music that's all about dancing and merriment.


Don't be blindfolded all musicians are singing for money {Matthew 6:24} so none is singing for God!

SeniorMan715:
Those that took part in the first resurrection are free from the second death!...
What's the first resurrection ?
What if they fails or allow Satan to misled them during the thousand years ?

@ All faithful servants of God in ancient times and their Christian counterpart are Jehovah's sheep {Psalms 23:1} whatever belongs to Jehovah is Jesus' property as the sole heir to everything Jehovah owns! Colossians 1:16

That's why Jesus referred to all faithful people as his sheep and we can see how King David confirmed this when he referred to Christ as Lord that will sit beside Jehovah! Psalms 110:1

So when talking to his Jewish disciples Jesus told them that he had other sheep which aren't of the first fold {John 10:16} he told them that he will bring all of them together as one under the same shepherd. This first set are the BORN AGAIN Christians they became BORN AGAIN at pentecost before then there has never been anyone BORN like that that's why Jesus could say John the baptist is greater than all those born of women {Matthew 11:11} because only Adam (before his fall) is greater than John the baptist as God's direct Son! Luke 3:38

So the BORN AGAIN Christian will not resurrect on this planet as humans rather they will be resurrected as spirit sons of God (angels) {Luke 20:35-36} and instantly they will go and join Jesus in heaven where Satan has been driven away that's why they can't have any issues with death anymore! Revelations 12:12

@ Whoever failed after the 1,000 years of Christ's reign will be destroyed along with Satan!

jaephoenix:
Is he wrong?

Oh! He's 100% right!

Ken4Christ:
Repent from the sinful nature you inherited from Adam. Repent from the false teachings you are spreading in your evil and demonic organization. Jesus has already forgiven every man in the world. Your duty is to repent and accept him as your Lord and Saviour.
Repent or perish.
Luk 13:3
I tell you, Nay: but, EXCEPT YE REPENT, ye shall all likewise perish.

You don't even know anything about Jesus of Nazareth!

Banilla:

Have I ever mocked Christians? It's not my fault most don't understand the Bible.

It's a pity that you're among those who failed woefully to understand the Bible!

Most of you have a totally wrong expectation of what Christianity should produce in the society instead your main concern is what God should do for you individually, that's where most people like you missed the import of that book!

Waking up and thinking about what your neighbour has in his or her mind then talking about it with others on faceless social media instead of walking straight up to discuss with your neighbour life and direct.
This is the most stupid as in ridiculous thing most people does today!

Funny atheist!

Ọmọ you're just a FOOL brainwashed with credulity, you don't know anything yet you want to argue.

I asked you again:
What exactly should i repent from?

Because if talking about righteousness of God i can prove that you know nothing about it!

Ken4Christ:
I am helping you. If you don't repent, you will regret it when you see yourself in the pit of hell.

Yes we have all sinned according to the Bible. But those who have accepted Jesus as Lord and Saviour are no longer sinners but God's righteousness in Christ.

And accepting Jesus means you must believe he died for you and that God raised him from the dead. Then, open your mouth and confess he is Lord over your life.

Is this difficult for you to do?

Pride is what will destroy you.

You are with a religious cult that has fed you with lies all these years. As such, you find it difficult to see the truth. Even when you do, pride will not allow you to accept it.

Repent before it's too late.

OkCornel:
And where in that did I mention “salvation by conscience” as you falsely claimed? Is it too difficult to understand people would be judged according to their works?

Refusal to acknowledge Jesus' brothers is what makes it difficult for people to agree on terms and conditions of pure worship so the arguments will continue.
What Paul meant in his letter to Christians in Rome is easy to grasp, only Jesus' brothers the BORN AGAIN Christians are saved due to the underserved kindness God showed to those that will rule with Christ Jesus in heaven, after their earthly journey they awaits the day of resurrection in their graves, they will be first to be resurrected but instead of physical resurrection they will become like angels and straight up they go to join Jesus who is waiting to take them to the abodes he prepared for them.
As for the rest of mankind many will be resurrected to life here on earth with perfect bodies no more deformities, if anyone lived and died with a deformity it will be gone when Jesus calls them back to life.

Now this is what Paul is talking about:

Any human who deliberately defied God's laws during his life time among those that knows God's laws has already received his or her final judgement because they've proved to be wicked with the way they ignored God's laws so they will not be remembered during resurrection! Psalms 9:17

Any among Christians who is not part of the BORN AGAIN that remained obedient till death will be brought back to life that's what Paul meant when he urged Christians to be obedient to those taking the lead in God's congregation because if they fail it will be to their detriment {Hebrews 13:7, 17} so all those claiming Christians but refused to live by the rules agreed upon by those taking the lead in the congregation of God will not be remembered Jesus has condemned them since they're not ready to uphold the LAWS set by those leading them! Matthew 7:21-23

WHY? Jesus said he has given those taking the lead the key to the Kingdom so whatever they bind on earth has been bound in heaven and whatever they loosen on earth has been loosened in heaven! Matthew 16:19

What happens to those who don't know God's laws in ancient times before Christ or those who never had the opportunity to meet Jesus' disciples? Their own judgement regarding the resurrection will be based on what they did with their conscience! Romans 2:14-15

It's after our resurrection on earth that a global educational program will ensue so that we can become perfect in thought within a thousand years that only Christianity will be allowed on this planet. Then Satan will be released that's why John said only those that took part in the first resurrection are free from the second death! Revelations 20:5-6

Banilla:
I'm atheist. I'm curious.

What I wanted to know was where you got what you wrote. Did you come up with it? Or you read it someone? Or?

No wonder you only flow with those that mock faith but it's OK when something doesn't have any meaning to you that doesn't necessarily mean others won't be interested.
Faith in itself is not something that interests all kinds of people! 2Thessalonians 3:2

Kelechi009:
I should have asked this question on Reddit, I made a big mistake by coming here.

Your question is thought provoking indeed but it will require thorough meditation on what the scriptures say. So if you don't mind should i join in the on going discussion?

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

iamyungkhalifa:
I know that this post won't go well with some people on NL, but as a guy who grew up in the church and later try to find the truth for himself, I had been thinking what could be the main reason why God throw down the devil to earth in the first place when he knows that's the devil is a giran (rugged) nigger , imagine the kind war devil cause in heaven and even angel micheal always ask for permission from God before fighting Satan , imagine someone who really compete with God and drew one third of the angels in heaven to himself, yet he sent him down to earth when he knows he will still created another project called man and it's venerable, Make I no lie the story never clear me ooo
Abeg I need both atheist, theist , Muslim and traditional believers to comment on this
I want make this story clear today

This is why we often come visiting perhaps you have questions like this but most of you will say:

"Before you preach pray for me"
"I just dey come from my own church"
"I get my own religion"
"I no get time for this kind talk"
"You people no get work?"

And so on but now that you've open up on what you will like to know let me introduce myself.

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses do you mind if i should answer your question with the Bible?

TradingGod:
Christ is the seed of Abraham. Correct
Since Christ lives in you, that makes You the seed of Abraham too
Expect you don't believe that Christ is in you.

This is where the issue is, Christ can't be in all Christians except the first fruits of 144,000 as they are the only set having the same baptism he had that's why his name and his fathers name is written on their foreheads! Revelations 14:1

For your information all those who lived and died before the day of pentecost can't be in Christ because they never made it to be baptized in the same manner as he did that's why Jesus said all those born before John the baptist aren't qualified! Matthew 11:11-12

So it's only those limited number they are the spiritual Jews that God promised a kingdom with the Christ! Luke 12:32