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raumdeuter:SALUTE! Odingo, salute this guy and carry this input to share with HQ in Aba. |
raumdeuter:Thats the truth. They are timid and afraid but call every non-Ibo in Nigeria a coward. |
Odingo1:Go for it! Who's stopping you? Yorubas are solidly behind Osinbajo to Preside over Nigeria, 2023 forward...and if he should step down we will fill the slot with another Yoruba. Northerners can do whatever they want, nobody is stopping them either. |
Odingo1:Yoruba earned it. It was not given.... Sovereingty was at risk of collapse. Nigeria has not yielded to bokoharam as much and prolonged this war had been. It did not take Yoruba this long to bring Nigeria to its knees. I can't tell you the reason behind it, you have to figure it yourself, but it is there. |
modath:Orji Uzor Kalu - Lagos is no man's land Peter Obi - Ibo developed Lagos Stella Oduah - We are the landlords of Lagos Ohanaeze Youth - Ambode is Ibo enemy #1. Ohanaeze Ancestors - Lagos State discriminates and deny Ibo cabinet post Chioreme Nnenna - Yorubas are sophisticated morons. How many we go list.... ![]() |
Odingo1:Good point! Let me highlight to you the sequence of events. They say one good turn deserves another good in the other direction. Shortly before Abacha died he had accepted and came to terms there was nothing he could to stop Yoruba separation from Nigeria. There was not a military solution to prevent it because OPC had acquired militancy and even military properties were being blown up and their personnell targeted randomly in SW. He had however had a political solution, which was to use his Yoruba captives to negotiate a somewhat less volatile dissolution. If we dialed back to 1957 that incidence will make the third time North had accepted a readiness to dissolve. First was Ahmadu Bello disgruntingly refusing to accept independence in 1957, at the cost of separation. The second was a traumatic outcome in 1966 when Murtala opted to evacuate all Northerners in South, his Yoruba wife notwithstanding. The third was the Abacha episode with Nadeco and OPC at his throat and as Head of State he could go anywhere in the country except Yorubaland. Abacha's death was a sacrifice that kept Nigeria together. If he had not died there will be nothing called Nigeria by now. Obasanjo was reparation to Yoruba for the wrong done to MKO. It doesn't matter which way the country voted in 1999, a Yoruba would end up as President. Where is Ibo reparation? PDP has it. PDP treats you like scum, is disrespectful to Christians but you hold tight to them defensively. When will you realize PDP is your barrier to the Presidency? |
Odingo1:Why do you yield to others if they won't yield to you? |
KingLennon:You are not serious! You want Ibo to work for its victory to the Presidency.... You must live on Mars. ![]() No, they are privileged, they are not to work for victory, rather Nigeria must handover this power to Ibo in 2023. ![]() On a serious note, there are about five or more Yorubas (SW and NC combined) on different political platform ready to slug it out with Buhari in 2019. Even if they do not get the victory on first trial, they have advanced a political milestone by acquiring experience and footprints that move them closer at each attempt to finally achieve their goal. Yoruba does not respect the zoning formula....they are throwing their shots. This is what happened to Buhari. He contested every cycle and with constancy. Ibo can contest on different platforms in every election cycle...the experience is indispensable and strengthens the resolve to build consensus and alliance that works in their favour. It is ridiculous and unfathomable that APGA, an Ibo party, is fielding a Northerner for 2019. What's wrong with Ibo, are you less competent than the Northerner? The immediate past national publicity secretary of the All Progressives Grand Alliance, Barrister Ifeatu Obi-Okoye, has explained why his party, APGA, resolved to field a northern presidential candidate in the upcoming 2019 general election. |
Dockaysworld:Unilag would have given him deferred admission. |
This is when you can filter the intelligent ones that have purpose for going to school from those who went to school just to mark register. |
dafeyankee:Do you think Ill make this up? |
modath:Hahahahaha.... ![]() 2023 Presidency or death! |
modath:Lol. I no fit forget you na. Especially election is approaching, i'll be frequent. Obj is confident Atiku will not win. Atiku himself has doubts of victory. Im suspecting Saraki will end up in Obj coalition. Meanwhile, Saraki has style and form but lacks content and savvy, which will make him a perfect puppet for the sponsor. Baba will pitch Saraki/Soludo combo. |
modath:You and this your razor tongue!! ![]() So you dont believe 12million Ibos in 19 Northern States can be counted as SE voting block? Ohanaeze disagrees with you. ![]() |
modath:Modath, Long time o. Se alafia dear? I don't believe Afenifere places much value on Atiku's restructuring stomp. He does not have the political backbone needed to walk the talk. Afenifere realizes its nothing but rhetoric...however, they need competitors to step forward and own it. They threw support behind him hoping APC will respond with a grab. Unless he picks one of them as VP, Falae or General Akinrinade or Prof Akintoye for example, i don't see the appeal that will cause Afenifere to campaign for Atiku. |
HungerBAD:Ohanaeze is struggling and is not updated at all on the pieces of political jigsaw in this country and how those pieces combine and fit to make whole. When everyone is looking for the kainji dam piece to lock in, Ohanaeze will announce that place was formerly Bussa basin...and it will send its youths out to go find a piece called Bussa basin. Nuts! |
Does Ohanaeze know what happened during PDP Convention, and how Uche became Chairman? Im not sure Ohanaeze is abreast of current political affairs in the country. They talk like 15yr olds. |
PDP’s plot to zone VP to S-West or S-South, satanic, barbaric, inhuman —Ohanaeze youthshttps://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2018/09/igbo-groups-ask-pdp-apc-to-zone-vp-to-s-east-in-2019/amp/
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Those thinking Osun will elect a bubbly and eccentric comedian to be their governor are unfamiliar with Yoruba politics. Ooni is favouring a positive marketing of Yorubaland to the world. He wants a boardroom in his domain, not a circus! |
Even if govt built this in Nigeria that water would stink from people dumping waste and thrash in it. Iya Sikira will come there to fetch water to wash cloth. Chuks will lower the trouser on his 2yr old Obinna and face him to pee there. Abu Maishayi will crouch there and do ablution. Abeg....the citizens are not ready. When we are govt will build it. |
People that find it reprehensible to accomodate their own kind across state line....but want to venture across zone and represent Yoruba constituencies in House of Assembly and NASS. Yoruba, Ibo is teaching you here how to protect and guard political turfs and block out strangers in your midst. Learn from it. |
BY CHARLES KUMOLU |
BabaRamota1980:May Oduduwa bless you all your life, Ase! I still have a long list of publications to bring to the forum and share. This is just warming up. I was hoping their scholars would by now have information of this thread and troop to the internet to defend the cause......that's what Im waiting on really. These guys are not worth the scholarship and historical in my archives, I will be wasting resource sharing scholarship work with these grunts. To all my Yoruba brothers, Olu Moneywoman Y0ruba .....and others not mentioned, Edumare will continue to enlighten and make you the superior race amongst the races of mankind. Oduduwa will bless your hands. Ase! I go back to my guest position for now. |
Moorish:What planet are you from? ![]() This is not 1990. People volunteer their position and nudity on internet these days. Dude you are almost in the third decade of the 21st century. What's wrong with you? |
Moorish:If I were you I would go to Religion section and deliver lost souls, or better yet to Romance section and console heartbroken lovers. You are in the wrong thread bro |
steveosaz:You are the one in need of help. The guy declared that by time he finished with Ekhaladeran all your pride in his legendary will evaporate. True to his word when he finished no Edo has again mentioned the word E K H A L A D E R A N....none! The pages are there is you care to go back and review. All of you came in blazing about Ekhaladeran and his founding of Uhe. His name taste sour in your mouth now because the guy you call inconsequential successfully dealt you blows and shut you up about your legend of Uhe. Inconsequential indeed! |
BabaRamota1980: you are wicked! |
steveosaz:Do you realize how he has tactically deconstructed and destroyed your Ekhaladeran? He has successfully convinced those who previously thought your hoax had any shred of truth to now have a rethink, people who would not ordinarily ask questions about such things are now awakened and wondering why, in a hierarchical and patrilineal society where a male child is golden, that a father would kill his only son in order to have more? He did great damage to your hoax when he used the analogy of a house owner burning down his property so he could acquire means to build more. You call him inconsequential You need your head examined. |
Unlike Olfert Dapper who has never stepped foot in Benin but gave illustrations of "walls that are washed and polished to look like mirror", here, from those on the ground and in contact with Benin, are true accounts of what they saw.
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“Houses are built alongside the streets in good order, the one close to the other,” writes the 17th-century Dutch visitor Olfert Dapper. “Adorned with gables and steps … they are usually broad with long galleries inside, especially so in the case of the houses of the nobility, and divided into many rooms which are separated by walls made of red clay, very well erected.”[quote][/quote]The fabulous tales of Olfert Dapper, this is what intoxicates Edo into thinking they are a great society. "walls that are washed and shined to look like mirrors" Descriptions from a man that never set foot in Africa, much so Bini. If he had visited he would have known to include RED as part of the so called colorful dressing rather than feeding us illustrations from his hallucinations. |
This address is to Edos. From written records the first people and Kingdom the sea merchants traded with was Itsekiri. After that the Bini Kingdom. We are in 2000s, Europeans have been coming to your land since 1400s, if not earlier. You should pay attention to the way Europeans write about you, against their style when writing about others. When they write about Itsekiri they just say Itsekiri, they never qualify it as Itsekiri Kingdom. When they write about Ijo, they just say Ijo. When they write about Yoruba they never say Yoruba Kingdom. So why do they always, without exception, write about you in the context of your Kingdom? This is so because they recognize a blend, an homogeneity between Itsekiri King and his people, Ijo King and his people, Yoruba King and his people. In your case they see a heterogeneous society - the foreigner aristocrat King that maintains a distinct separation in class and status from the indigenous class of chiefs. Go to any museum or library abroad and say you are looking for materials on Edo people. They will remark and say 'Aahh, that's the Bini Kingdom!" Why can't Edo be recognized for what it is without reference to Bini Kingdom? If you ask for material on Yoruba they will respond and say we have on Ife, Oyo, Ketu, Ijesha, Egba, Ekiti, Owo, Ijebu, Lagos, Popo, Ilorin, and so on....no one ever says "Oooh, the Oyo Empire". I will be honest, Bini deserve credit for its wars and victories. Yoruba fought other Empires. For many years we trounced Dahomey but it came at last and won a victory over us. Nupe defeated us, we recovered and defeated them. Fulani defeated us, we recovered and defeated them. When the British came we defeated them twice in Lagos and by act of accident Britain was able to gain upper hand and seized the town from us. They went to Ijebu and fought them. Ijebu protected its waterways and toll gate stubbornly. At last Britain gained upper hand. Except in Lagos, no other dynasty in Yorubaland was ever exiled or deposed by Britain. In fact the case of Lagos, Kosoko showed them pepper, they ended up begging him for peace so they can focus on their trade with no distraction. There are only three ancient dynasties in Nigeria that never lost chain or throne to a foreign power. Yoruba is one, Borgu is second, Kanuri is third. None of the other two has spent as many years in war as Yoruba did, internally and externally. In fact Ibadan at one single time was fighting five directional wars, each with a different enemy force and it defeated every one of them. Successes of Nigeria over Biafra were secured in the camps that had Yoruba in command. Imagine if the people you call coward had not come forward to rescue MidWest, you would speaking Ibo by now. I know some of you like to refer to Ilorin. The game changer in Ilorin was Afonja. Even the Fulani feared Afonja, and when he laid dead they continued to shoot arrow into him so there won't be surprises. Take Afonja out of the picture and Fulani would never had entered into Yorubaland with warfare.....but thats all in hindsight now, Fulani rule Ilorin and there's no wishing it away. How many of the enemies you ever fought and won were Empires? You can't go pick on small villages and hamlets to pay you tributary and you call that colonized. Yes Bini defeated Eastern Yoruba communities, as narrated by Y0ruba, six of them, but these places got smart, recovered and defeated Bini in a rematch. This is the nature of war and conflicts. You will not be the first to defeat Yoruba towns or the only one we took reprisal against and collected our victory back. When you speak of yourself in grandeur terms I want you to reflect and remember what history you are recalling. You are bragging on what was written about you and circulated around the world in publications. The earlier writers became reference for the historians, anthropologists and linguists that came behind. I want to show you the profile ozone of the early chroniclers of Bini history, named Olfert Dapper. This man's work is what became the manuscript of Bini history and was used as reference by other writers. Olfert Dapper was born in early 1636 in the Jordaan in Amsterdam. On 6 January 1636, he was baptized in the Lutheran church in Amsterdam.This man that has never set foot in Africa wrote this about Bini. "The king's court is as large as the city of Haarlem, and ... divided into many magnificent palaces, houses and rooms of the courtiers, and ... galleries, about as large as the Exchange at Amsterdam," the Dutch geographer Olfert Dapper wrote in 1668This and many more embellishments is what you Edos live on and call greatness. It has blinded you to the realities around you. While you are stuck in a fantasy land built on white man's imagination and hallucinations of 1600, time has passed by and in 2000s your city has been reduced to an enclave and your tributaries of old have shut you out of the sea that once heralded your greatness to the world. Democracy rule the world now, not dynasty. The currency of exchange today is politics, not ivory. Where is your politics? Anyway, I will return to my guest status but before I do, let me share with you that there are long list of researchers and writers on Bini, indigenous and foreign. It will be hard to quote of works of indigenous without appearing biased, even when its the truth. Therefore I will from time to time sign in and go deep and unravel your mysteries and myths so the world can see that Edo is an empty land....your foreign Oba is who brought you into world attention. Oranmiyan did for you what a thousand Ogiso could not do. Here is list of writers I will be quoting from.... Olfert Dapper James Graham Laurenco Pinto R.H. Bacon Capt. Alan Boisragon D. Van Nyendael R.E. Bradbury Dmitri Bondarenko Henry Roth A.F. Mockler-Ferryman A.C. Burns C.R. Niven Thomas Hodgkin J.D. Fage Barbot Barros Artus Windham Welsh Donnan Capt. Landolphe Burton Owen Gallwey William Smith Fawckner Cheers! |
I give salute and respect to all my Yoruba brothers in here. I acknowledge your good works and output. You have done impressively well and gained the upper hand in this matter. How you guys pulled that ekhaladeran stunt off beats me! That was a major beat down in my opinion. Kudos guys! ![]() Baba I thank you oo! I have actually been on and off as guest since page 10 and observed things from the side. Im coming in because I felt we should set some truths on both sides about this whole drama.I address this to my people. Let us be mindful and stay consistent on what we know to be truthful. Has anyone ever thought about the etymology of Bini? How about the etymology of Edo? Both of these words have origin in Yoruba. Bini is corrupted from Ibinu and Edo is corrupted from Ado. The etymology of Bini is the Yoruba word for vexation. If it was possible to own rights to the name Bini, Oranmiyan would hold the right. Oramiyan coined the name in his native Yoruba language. The name was then donated to a new found-land. How about Edo, how did it come about? This one will need a bit explanation. The root word is "do". "Do", as in sex is a living application of the root word. The etymology of the word is "coupling". I am not a linguist nor an ethnographer but the few things Im learning in Yoruba has helped to expand my curiosities and spheres of knowledge. Yoruba philosophy teaches the duality and opposite forces of nature. Anytime you "couple" the opposite you yield a result. We don't know what result will come out, so we proactively approach Ifa to give us guidance. To settle a place our ancestors used the Ifa geo-matrix to "Te Do". Where Ifa says settle, they named it "A do". They will perform "etutu" (sacrifice) and "irubo" (offering) and placate all the forces of nature and element to couple on that spot and bring about a sacredness. This is the knowledge behind the sacredness of the many ADO towns in Yorubaland. The party that left with Oranmiyan from Ife did not go to Bini or Edo, these names did not exist then. They first settled at a land that geo-matrix picked. On this land they performed ritual of sacred coupling and named it Ado. It later became known as Udo. The foreigners from lfe settled Udo. Udo was not the land of the Ogisos. The Ogiso land was Igodomigodo and this is where Oranmiyan renamed to Ile Ibinu. With time culture and civilization of the foreigners became the mainstream social order and Ogiso went into disuse, likewise Igodomigodo. The ruler is no longer Ogiso but is now Omo N'Oba N'Udo. With time the two capitals, Udo and Bini, became one after the Oba relocated from Udo to Bini. At that point Edo had become the preferred use. So Bini and Edo were imports that replaced Igodomigodo. Bini represents political power, Edo represent the spiritual energy. So it makes sense as some of you have done to separate and acknowledge ownership of Bini and shield it from denigration. The opponents we are debating against are descendants of Igodomigodo, not Bini or Edo, but we will concede Edo for them because they are the indigenous owners of the land, Oranmiyan did not bring land from Ife. Therefore let's be mindful, Yoruba insults ourselves when we insult Bini. We do justice when we insult Edo and igodomigodo. The other point I want to make is I am very proud of the way you guys don't engage them in the caustic use of vulgar and abusive language. You are capable of returning the favor, no doubt....but they showed sign they were falling apart and had no logical and superior points left to argue on beside repetition. The emptiness could not be concealed they bursted out with name calling and shooting below the belt. They collapsed under the weight of your pressure. Oodua A Gbe wa! |
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