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PoliticsRe: PDP’s Plot To Zone VP To S-west Or S-south, Satanic, Barbaric, Inhuman —Ohanaeze by MayorofLagos(op): 7:43pm On Sep 06, 2018
raumdeuter:
Why should reparation be done to Ibos? what happened to them that is being repaired?

For Yorubas to have that type of mouth, they have been the nearest challenger multiple times. In 1979 and 1983, Awolowo came 2nd to Shagari
In 1992 Falae challenged Yar Audua
In 1993 MKO challeneged Tofa


But you are waiting somewhere for some reparation. Siddon there dey wait. You think all the SW and SS wey dey make moves are idiots, even the Saraki thats making moves you think they are playing?

They know even if they cannot make it in 2019, they will be top contenders in the future

Which Ibo candidate has seriously contested for presidency in the last 50yrs and finished say runner up.

Now even though most Northerners know Buhari is almost unbeatable about 8 of them still came out, currently we have Duke from SS, even the useless Fayose is making moves, where are the SE governors and ex governors?

What stops someone like Chime, Nnamani, Peter Obi and those ex governors from launching serious presidential campaign and insist they must be the candidate in 2019, by so doing, even if they convince you and beg you to step down you know by next dispensation your name would be the first to be mentioned rather Ekweremaddu is following Saraki about hoping to be VP, why cant Ekweremadu say I want to be president, Saraki be my Vice

Your people are business men, if you want to sell for N500, you normally start negotiation from N2,000 before a lot of haggling and finally setle for round 500. A smart trader in Aba or Onitsha doesn't start negotiation from 550 when he wants to sell for N500

Yoruba and Tinubu brought up the APC, gave Hausa the first run at it for 8yrs, after those 8yrs, a Yoruba man has positioned himself for the next 8yrs at least in APC, what have you done to position yourselves for power that you want
SALUTE! Odingo, salute this guy and carry this input to share with HQ in Aba.
PoliticsRe: PDP’s Plot To Zone VP To S-west Or S-south, Satanic, Barbaric, Inhuman —Ohanaeze by MayorofLagos(op): 7:29pm On Sep 06, 2018
raumdeuter:
How did Presidency get to being handed over to Obasanjo?

Lets trace is back

In the Abacha regime, there were 5 political parties created UNCP, CNC, GDM, DPN and NCPN, WHen the other parties gave their ticket to Abacha, Tunji Braithwaite and MD Yusufu challenged Abacha for the GDM ticket and the case was unresolved until Abacha died

In 1993 in the 3rd Republic, A Yoruba man MKO came out and contested against an Hausa man, Where was the Ibo man? Under The Hausa Tofa

Before that in 1992, when Shinkafi, Ciroma were contesting for NRC ticket, Tar Adua and Olu Falae were slugging it out for SDP ticket, Olu Falae even won the Kaduna primary though Yar Audua responded by defeating him in the Lagos primary. Where were the Ibos?

It was as a result of this doggedness that saw the nation make concession for OBJ in 1999

Now lets fast forward after the OBJ 2 terms in 2007 All the SS governors came out to contest for presidency, from Ibori, Odili, Duke, Attah even Igbinedion while their SE counterpart were waiting for VP ticket
Thats the truth. They are timid and afraid but call every non-Ibo in Nigeria a coward.
PoliticsRe: PDP’s Plot To Zone VP To S-west Or S-south, Satanic, Barbaric, Inhuman —Ohanaeze by MayorofLagos(op): 7:26pm On Sep 06, 2018
Odingo1:
If reparation was done to Yorubas in 1999, in 2023 reparation should also be done to Igbos, APC and PDP should produce Igbo candidate like in 1999 to ensure Igbo presidency.If not there is no way yoruba man will win election again in Nigeria, if APC present a Yoruba in 2023 then PDP will present a northerner and the northerners in APC will decamp to PDP to make sure that power remain in the north and the cycle continues.
Go for it! Who's stopping you? Yorubas are solidly behind Osinbajo to Preside over Nigeria, 2023 forward...and if he should step down we will fill the slot with another Yoruba. Northerners can do whatever they want, nobody is stopping them either.
PoliticsRe: PDP’s Plot To Zone VP To S-west Or S-south, Satanic, Barbaric, Inhuman —Ohanaeze by MayorofLagos(op): 7:10pm On Sep 06, 2018
Odingo1:
Igbos have sense of Nigerian belonging in 1999, they did not yield to others but just have national interest at heart and felt sorry for what happen to Abiola and Yorubas., Igbos felt sympathetic for Yorubas following Abiola saga, Igbos was convinced to step down for yorubas that is why the two major parties in 1999 produce yorubas as contestant, but Yorubas are now making as if they were not giving presidency on a plater of Gold in 1999, Obasanjo when he was pulled from prison look like a half dead man and don't even know what is going on.

This was picture of Obasanjo in 1999, that is why he was grateful to Igbos and use more Igbos in his cabinet.
Yoruba earned it. It was not given.... Sovereingty was at risk of collapse. Nigeria has not yielded to bokoharam as much and prolonged this war had been. It did not take Yoruba this long to bring Nigeria to its knees. I can't tell you the reason behind it, you have to figure it yourself, but it is there.
PoliticsRe: PDP’s Plot To Zone VP To S-west Or S-south, Satanic, Barbaric, Inhuman —Ohanaeze by MayorofLagos(op): 7:05pm On Sep 06, 2018
modath:
It will take a bit of time, patience & sacrifice. Let's not lie to ourselves, the Ibo political elites(They are the real drivers of the hate campaign behind the scene but form innocence when it's time to show up & show out) can't and will NEVER do that.
Orji Uzor Kalu - Lagos is no man's land
Peter Obi - Ibo developed Lagos
Stella Oduah - We are the landlords of Lagos
Ohanaeze Youth - Ambode is Ibo enemy #1.
Ohanaeze Ancestors - Lagos State discriminates and deny Ibo cabinet post
Chioreme Nnenna - Yorubas are sophisticated morons.

How many we go list.... grin
PoliticsRe: PDP’s Plot To Zone VP To S-west Or S-south, Satanic, Barbaric, Inhuman —Ohanaeze by MayorofLagos(op): 7:00pm On Sep 06, 2018
Odingo1:
You are talking rubbish, Igbos has been contesting for presidency since 1999 on different political platform.

Know you that presidency was handed to Obasanjo on a plater of gold
, he didn't work for it for one day but was pulled from prison because he handed over to Shagari against the SW wish.
Good point!

Let me highlight to you the sequence of events. They say one good turn deserves another good in the other direction.

Shortly before Abacha died he had accepted and came to terms there was nothing he could to stop Yoruba separation from Nigeria. There was not a military solution to prevent it because OPC had acquired militancy and even military properties were being blown up and their personnell targeted randomly in SW. He had however had a political solution, which was to use his Yoruba captives to negotiate a somewhat less volatile dissolution. If we dialed back to 1957 that incidence will make the third time North had accepted a readiness to dissolve. First was Ahmadu Bello disgruntingly refusing to accept independence in 1957, at the cost of separation. The second was a traumatic outcome in 1966 when Murtala opted to evacuate all Northerners in South, his Yoruba wife notwithstanding. The third was the Abacha episode with Nadeco and OPC at his throat and as Head of State he could go anywhere in the country except Yorubaland. Abacha's death was a sacrifice that kept Nigeria together. If he had not died there will be nothing called Nigeria by now.

Obasanjo was reparation to Yoruba for the wrong done to MKO. It doesn't matter which way the country voted in 1999, a Yoruba would end up as President.

Where is Ibo reparation? PDP has it. PDP treats you like scum, is disrespectful to Christians but you hold tight to them defensively. When will you realize PDP is your barrier to the Presidency?
PoliticsRe: PDP’s Plot To Zone VP To S-west Or S-south, Satanic, Barbaric, Inhuman —Ohanaeze by MayorofLagos(op): 6:46pm On Sep 06, 2018
Odingo1:
This your fact is a lie.

PDP is a majority party in Nigeria after 1999 election
, PDP in 2007 is very strong in SE/SS. Buhari party and Atiku party is not popular party in the east. Do know that Buhari won the election because the north felt that it is their turn to rule Nigeria by fire by force, all machinery was geared toward that using all manner of violence including Boko haram.
Ojukwu on APGA also lost SE votes because PDP have more influence.

Had it been that Ekwueme was not persuaded to step down for Obasanjo in order to calm SW for Abiola saga, Ekwueme would have won the election.
Why do you yield to others if they won't yield to you?
PoliticsRe: PDP’s Plot To Zone VP To S-west Or S-south, Satanic, Barbaric, Inhuman —Ohanaeze by MayorofLagos(op): 6:30pm On Sep 06, 2018
KingLennon:
They should not settle for less. The igbo's can also pick the nomination form and contest for president.
You are not serious! You want Ibo to work for its victory to the Presidency.... grin grin You must live on Mars. grin
No, they are privileged, they are not to work for victory, rather Nigeria must handover this power to Ibo in 2023.

grin

On a serious note, there are about five or more Yorubas (SW and NC combined) on different political platform ready to slug it out with Buhari in 2019. Even if they do not get the victory on first trial, they have advanced a political milestone by acquiring experience and footprints that move them closer at each attempt to finally achieve their goal. Yoruba does not respect the zoning formula....they are throwing their shots. This is what happened to Buhari. He contested every cycle and with constancy. Ibo can contest on different platforms in every election cycle...the experience is indispensable and strengthens the resolve to build consensus and alliance that works in their favour. It is ridiculous and unfathomable that APGA, an Ibo party, is fielding a Northerner for 2019. What's wrong with Ibo, are you less competent than the Northerner?


The immediate past national publicity secretary of the All Progressives Grand Alliance, Barrister Ifeatu Obi-Okoye, has explained why his party, APGA, resolved to field a northern presidential candidate in the upcoming 2019 general election.

http://dailypost.ng/2018/09/04/2019-apga-fielding-northern-presidential-candidate-ex-spokesman/
EducationRe: Warri Boy Who Smashed Waec And Jamb Denied Admission by MayorofLagos(m): 11:46am On Sep 06, 2018
Dockaysworld:
Warri boy who smashed waec and jamb denied admission.

David okorogheye, the delta state boy who floored his jamb and waec with 336 and 9A1's respectively has been denied admission into the university of lagos to study medicine, on the ground of his young age.
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The 15-year-old who stunned the general public by his outstanding performance, was not allowed to take part in the post UTME exams, he has been asked to try again next year when he comes of age.
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Efforts to contact relevant authorities as to whether he could be considered for special admission has proved abortive as authorities say the law must be followed.

The lad however has come to terms with the surrounding suituations and says he will wait for the next year's admission.

According to sun news, David who hopes to become a neurosurgeon, had his passion activiated when he watched doctors battle to save the life of his late father when he was 8 years old, and since then vowed to study medicine so he can save lives.
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With his father late, david is currently been sponsored by his mother and family members who are proud of him.

Source;
https://www.dockaysworld.com/2018/09/06/warri-boy-smashed-waec-jamb-denied-admission/
Unilag would have given him deferred admission.
PoliticsRe: 2019: How Ambode Incurred Wrath Of Lagos APC Elders by MayorofLagos(m): 6:30am On Sep 06, 2018
This is when you can filter the intelligent ones that have purpose for going to school from those who went to school just to mark register.
PoliticsRe: PDP’s Plot To Zone VP To S-west Or S-south, Satanic, Barbaric, Inhuman —Ohanaeze by MayorofLagos(op): 5:57am On Sep 06, 2018
dafeyankee:
Source?
Do you think Ill make this up?
PoliticsRe: PDP’s Plot To Zone VP To S-west Or S-south, Satanic, Barbaric, Inhuman —Ohanaeze by MayorofLagos(op): 5:54am On Sep 06, 2018
modath:
The ones that own PVC or the ones that couldn't be bothered to leave their shops & make the sacrifice??

& by the way, why the need for VP? Biafra or death nko?


As for PDP, thank God their heavyweights are now busy with election matters & middle belt are experiencing relative peace....


P.S... Those of you that will come park in my mentions( you'd be ignored like the inconsiquentials yall are), before you do, try find out how many heads of cattle David Mark owns too & the "ranch" they are being tended... cool
Hahahahaha.... grin grin
2023 Presidency or death!
PoliticsRe: PDP’s Plot To Zone VP To S-west Or S-south, Satanic, Barbaric, Inhuman —Ohanaeze by MayorofLagos(op): 5:51am On Sep 06, 2018
modath:
Awon Grandpa wa has seen money miswaka & they want to milk the cow till e dry noni, Grandpas that have no influence in the PU on their respective streets? Just dey watch dem dey go... Jonathan pay owo omogo too. grin

Allow Atiku spend some dough & lose small financial weight bros mi...

I'm good ojare, na you forget ya sista. embarassed
Lol. I no fit forget you na. Especially election is approaching, i'll be frequent.

Obj is confident Atiku will not win. Atiku himself has doubts of victory. Im suspecting Saraki will end up in Obj coalition. Meanwhile, Saraki has style and form but lacks content and savvy, which will make him a perfect puppet for the sponsor. Baba will pitch Saraki/Soludo combo.
PoliticsRe: PDP’s Plot To Zone VP To S-west Or S-south, Satanic, Barbaric, Inhuman —Ohanaeze by MayorofLagos(op): 5:35am On Sep 06, 2018
modath:
Politics is a game of numbers..

Politics is a game of alliance & compromise...

Bullying is a game of proud arrogant people who are unwilling to do things the way they ought to in order to get the desired result... More insects are caught with honey than vinegar ..

South East doesnt have the number to make anyone feel threatened if they don't kowtow to them , being in every nook and cranny of Nigeria means nothing, vote cast by an Ibo man in Iwo will never be counted with votes in Imo...

Till south easteners realise these salient facts, they will keep hustling backward politically. cool
You and this your razor tongue!! grin

So you dont believe 12million Ibos in 19 Northern States can be counted as SE voting block? Ohanaeze disagrees with you. grin
PoliticsRe: PDP’s Plot To Zone VP To S-west Or S-south, Satanic, Barbaric, Inhuman —Ohanaeze by MayorofLagos(op): 5:27am On Sep 06, 2018
modath:
Like Ohaneze, Like Afenifere.. smiley
Modath, Long time o. grin
Se alafia dear?


I don't believe Afenifere places much value on Atiku's restructuring stomp. He does not have the political backbone needed to walk the talk. Afenifere realizes its nothing but rhetoric...however, they need competitors to step forward and own it. They threw support behind him hoping APC will respond with a grab.

Unless he picks one of them as VP, Falae or General Akinrinade or Prof Akintoye for example, i don't see the appeal that will cause Afenifere to campaign for Atiku.
PoliticsRe: PDP’s Plot To Zone VP To S-west Or S-south, Satanic, Barbaric, Inhuman —Ohanaeze by MayorofLagos(op): 5:15am On Sep 06, 2018
HungerBAD:
They will never learn.

What has the support for the PDP since 1998 earned the East?nothing.

Is it pride?dumbness?naivety? Long held hate and distrust of the West and North?illiteracy?stubborness?everything must be their ways?or the lack of any sense of direction,that is making those in the East to just refuse to retrace their steps and play the politics of commonsense?
Ohanaeze is struggling and is not updated at all on the pieces of political jigsaw in this country and how those pieces combine and fit to make whole. When everyone is looking for the kainji dam piece to lock in, Ohanaeze will announce that place was formerly Bussa basin...and it will send its youths out to go find a piece called Bussa basin.
Nuts!
PoliticsRe: PDP’s Plot To Zone VP To S-west Or S-south, Satanic, Barbaric, Inhuman —Ohanaeze by MayorofLagos(op): 5:06am On Sep 06, 2018
Does Ohanaeze know what happened during PDP Convention, and how Uche became Chairman?

Im not sure Ohanaeze is abreast of current political affairs in the country. They talk like 15yr olds.
PoliticsPDP’s Plot To Zone VP To S-west Or S-south, Satanic, Barbaric, Inhuman —Ohanaeze by MayorofLagos(op): 4:54am On Sep 06, 2018
PDP’s plot to zone VP to S-West or S-South, satanic, barbaric, inhuman —Ohanaeze youths

Meantime, the leadership of Ohanaeze Ndigbo Youth Council Worldwide yesterday described the alleged plot by the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP to zone the vice president slot to the South West or South-South geopolitical zone as satanic, barbaric and inhuman, considering the contributions of the zone towards the upliftment of the party since its creation in 1998.

The group further cautioned that nobody should take the patience of Ndigbo as foolishness and that they should not push Ndigbo to take a political decision that will bury PDP in 2019.

In a statement issued in Abakaliki, the deputy president general of the group, Comrade Obinna Achuonye and deputy national Public Relations Officer of the group, Mazi Alex Osaka stressed that the plot against the zone will never see the light of the day.

The statement read in part: “The attention of Ohanaeze Ndigbo Youth Council Worldwide had been drawn to a malicious report and nefarious plot that PDP had concluded plans to zone the vice presidency to South-West or South-South over the South East quest to occupy the position in 2019.

“This clandestine plot is barbaric, satanic and will never see the light of the day. OYC insists that the national chairman of Peoples Democratic Party, Mr Uche Secondus should clarify this allegation immediately before Ndigbo especially the youths take their destiny in our own hands.

“We wish to remind the originators of this malicious plot against Ndigbo, that Ndigbo had paid their price in PDP since 1999. Its morally wrong to return the vice presidency to either South West or South-South after the two political zones had occupied the highest office of the president in 1999 in the persons of Chief Olusegun Obasanjo and in 2010 in Dr Goodluck Jonathan, leaving Southeast out in the cold.

“Those claiming that Southeast had the least voters registered should remember that Igbo are everywhere in Nigeria and from our records, we are in 19 northern states, where we have 12.5 million votes and five million votes in the South West and how can you compare South East with only five states with South West and South-South that has six states each?”
https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2018/09/igbo-groups-ask-pdp-apc-to-zone-vp-to-s-east-in-2019/amp/

PoliticsRe: Aregbesola Hugs And Welcomes Tinubu To Osun Ahead Of APC Flag Off by MayorofLagos(m): 2:35am On Sep 06, 2018
Those thinking Osun will elect a bubbly and eccentric comedian to be their governor are unfamiliar with Yoruba politics. Ooni is favouring a positive marketing of Yorubaland to the world. He wants a boardroom in his domain, not a circus!
PoliticsRe: See Shops At Singapore .there Is Levels To This Developed Country Thing.. by MayorofLagos(m): 1:57am On Sep 06, 2018
Even if govt built this in Nigeria that water would stink from people dumping waste and thrash in it. Iya Sikira will come there to fetch water to wash cloth. Chuks will lower the trouser on his 2yr old Obinna and face him to pee there. Abu Maishayi will crouch there and do ablution.
Abeg....the citizens are not ready. When we are govt will build it.
PoliticsRe: This Is Critically Important For Yorubas To Soak In. by MayorofLagos(op): 12:53am On Sep 06, 2018
People that find it reprehensible to accomodate their own kind across state line....but want to venture across zone and represent Yoruba constituencies in House of Assembly and NASS.

Yoruba, Ibo is teaching you here how to protect and guard political turfs and block out strangers in your midst. Learn from it.
PoliticsThis Is Critically Important For Yorubas To Soak In. by MayorofLagos(op): 12:53am On Sep 06, 2018
BY CHARLES KUMOLU

The senatorial ambition of the wife of the late Biafra warlord, Dim Chukwuemeka Odimegwu- Ojukwu, yesterday, faced a major setback as some members of the Ojukwu family vowed not to support her even if she emerged the candidate of the All Progressives Grand Alliance APGA.

In an interactive session with newsmen, Dr. Ike Ojukwu, who is one of the directors of Ojukwu Transport Company Limited, OTL, said it was wrong to allow a woman from Ngwo in Enugu State to represent Anambra South Senatorial District.

He said: “Is she from Nnewi? She is from Ngwo in Enugu State. I would prefer someone who is a son of the soil, and because I come from Nnewi, I would like an Nnewi indigene to represent us.”


On his part, Emeka Odimegwu Ojukwu Jnr said: “She is apparently coming out on the platform of APGA and that is APGA’s business. They can decide on whoever they want to bring out. That should not be my business but I find it curious that they want somebody from Enugu State to represent us in Anambra South.

“This is a young woman, who was supposedly married to my late father. A young woman who could remarry tomorrow maybe from Abia State or later from Sokoto State. And they want her to represent us. I wonder if there are no other people in Anambra South, who can represent us.

“Has anybody asked Odimegwu household whether we believe in her to represent us? This is a woman we don’t interact with. She doesn’t talk to us. She can’t have access to our property She can’t cross our gate in the village. She doesn’t associate with the members of the family.

“There are certain questions that should have been asked before moving in that particular direction. Like I said, APGA is free to field whoever they want to field. I know that APC is trying to field a very credible candidate and when we get to the field of justice we will see what happens.”

Also speaking, a legal practitioner Chief Debe Odimegwu Ojukwu, said: “As a lawyer, I would say no. why I said no is that there are so many marriages, even when you look at Nollywood, there are many marriages everyday but that does not make it legal.

“Why I am arguing this is because there was a woman my father married in a court, and that marriage was never nullified, and my training as a lawyer tells me that when there is a subsisting marriage, subsequent marriage or attempt at marriage becomes null and void.”

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/09/anambra-south-ojukwus-children-vow-not-to-support-biancas-ambition/
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MayorofLagos(m): 7:31pm On Jun 17, 2018
BabaRamota1980:
By Grace of Oduduwa,Yoruba shall remain the number1 race in Africa.

If you cant join us stay far away but dont tarnish us because when we strike we wont back up until the enemy is completely humiliated and his defenses totally demolished.

Edo humiliation will not be halted by anything you say, it continues until we say STOP! This is our battle not yours and we will not relent till Ekalahderan becomes a sour experience in your history and your shame is uprooted into the open for all to see.

All your witcheries will not save you. cool
May Oduduwa bless you all your life, Ase!


I still have a long list of publications to bring to the forum and share. This is just warming up. I was hoping their scholars would by now have information of this thread and troop to the internet to defend the cause......that's what Im waiting on really. These guys are not worth the scholarship and historical in my archives, I will be wasting resource sharing scholarship work with these grunts.




To all my Yoruba brothers,
Olu
Moneywoman
Y0ruba
.....and others not mentioned,

Edumare will continue to enlighten and make you the superior race amongst the races of mankind. Oduduwa will bless your hands. Ase!


I go back to my guest position for now.
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MayorofLagos(m): 10:07am On Jun 11, 2018
Moorish:
This pointless tussle

A question for the "warriors" tho

VPN or no VPN

If I told you I could expose your exact locations; Longitude and Latitude

Would you back up your positions and insults?

Or cower and hide like the online warriors you are
What planet are you from? angry

This is not 1990. People volunteer their position and nudity on internet these days. Dude you are almost in the third decade of the 21st century. What's wrong with you?
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MayorofLagos(m): 9:58am On Jun 11, 2018
Moorish:
Maybe I am just different

But..

It always left a sour taste in my mouth whenever I decimated another human being physically or psychologically

Well.. except females (A different sort of decimation cheesy cheesy)

Anyway..

I do not feel good knowing I belittled another man

But I understand a man is a being of immense pride and honor

Willing to fight to the death in Defence of Honor

But sometimes you should control your very ego

The act of making peace, is a very honorable trait
If I were you I would go to Religion section and deliver lost souls, or better yet to Romance section and console heartbroken lovers. You are in the wrong thread bro
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MayorofLagos(m): 9:42am On Jun 11, 2018
steveosaz:
Listen dickhead, he did nothing other than expose his mental dilapidation which you obviously suffer from. We've said what need to be said, anything more would just be needless repetition.

Sorry, I can't help your case.
You are the one in need of help.

The guy declared that by time he finished with Ekhaladeran all your pride in his legendary will evaporate. True to his word when he finished no Edo has again mentioned the word E K H A L A D E R A N....none! The pages are there is you care to go back and review. All of you came in blazing about Ekhaladeran and his founding of Uhe. His name taste sour in your mouth now because the guy you call inconsequential successfully dealt you blows and shut you up about your legend of Uhe.

Inconsequential indeed!
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MayorofLagos(m): 9:32am On Jun 11, 2018
BabaRamota1980:
Do you know the meaning of tuba?
Oya so fun Edo ko wa tuba.

If this means that much to you tell Edos to come confess their witchery and commit never to bother Yoruba again.
grin grin you are wicked!
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MayorofLagos(m): 9:30am On Jun 11, 2018
steveosaz:
Babaramota is an inconsequential piece of shitt never to be taken serious.
Do you realize how he has tactically deconstructed and destroyed your Ekhaladeran? He has successfully convinced those who previously thought your hoax had any shred of truth to now have a rethink, people who would not ordinarily ask questions about such things are now awakened and wondering why, in a hierarchical and patrilineal society where a male child is golden, that a father would kill his only son in order to have more? He did great damage to your hoax when he used the analogy of a house owner burning down his property so he could acquire means to build more.

You call him inconsequential grin You need your head examined.
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MayorofLagos(m): 8:22am On Jun 11, 2018
Unlike Olfert Dapper who has never stepped foot in Benin but gave illustrations of "walls that are washed and polished to look like mirror", here, from those on the ground and in contact with Benin, are true accounts of what they saw.

CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MayorofLagos(m): 10:09pm On Jun 10, 2018
“Houses are built alongside the streets in good order, the one close to the other,” writes the 17th-century Dutch visitor Olfert Dapper. “Adorned with gables and steps … they are usually broad with long galleries inside, especially so in the case of the houses of the nobility, and divided into many rooms which are separated by walls made of red clay, very well erected.”

Dapper adds that wealthy residents kept these walls “as shiny and smooth by washing and rubbing as any wall in Holland can be made with chalk, and they are like mirrors. The upper storeys are made of the same sort of clay. Moreover, every house is provided with a well for the supply of fresh water”.

Family houses were divided into three sections: the central part was the husband’s quarters, looking towards the road; to the left the wives’ quarters (oderie), and to the right the young men’s quarters (yekogbe).

Daily street life in Benin City might have consisted of large crowds going though even larger streets, with people colourfully dressed – some in white, others in yellow, blue or green – and the city captains acting as judges to resolve lawsuits, moderating debates in the numerous galleries, and arbitrating petty conflicts in the markets.

The early foreign explorers’ descriptions of Benin City portrayed it as a place free of crime and hunger, with large streets and houses kept clean; a city filled with courteous, honest people, and run by a centralised and highly sophisticated bureaucracy.
[quote][/quote]The fabulous tales of Olfert Dapper, this is what intoxicates Edo into thinking they are a great society.

"walls that are washed and shined to look like mirrors" Descriptions from a man that never set foot in Africa, much so Bini. If he had visited he would have known to include RED as part of the so called colorful dressing rather than feeding us illustrations from his hallucinations.
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MayorofLagos(m): 3:53am On Jun 08, 2018
This address is to Edos.

From written records the first people and Kingdom the sea merchants traded with was Itsekiri. After that the Bini Kingdom.

We are in 2000s, Europeans have been coming to your land since 1400s, if not earlier. You should pay attention to the way Europeans write about you, against their style when writing about others. When they write about Itsekiri they just say Itsekiri, they never qualify it as Itsekiri Kingdom. When they write about Ijo, they just say Ijo. When they write about Yoruba they never say Yoruba Kingdom. So why do they always, without exception, write about you in the context of your Kingdom? This is so because they recognize a blend, an homogeneity between Itsekiri King and his people, Ijo King and his people, Yoruba King and his people. In your case they see a heterogeneous society - the foreigner aristocrat King that maintains a distinct separation in class and status from the indigenous class of chiefs.

Go to any museum or library abroad and say you are looking for materials on Edo people. They will remark and say 'Aahh, that's the Bini Kingdom!" Why can't Edo be recognized for what it is without reference to Bini Kingdom? If you ask for material on Yoruba they will respond and say we have on Ife, Oyo, Ketu, Ijesha, Egba, Ekiti, Owo, Ijebu, Lagos, Popo, Ilorin, and so on....no one ever says "Oooh, the Oyo Empire".


I will be honest, Bini deserve credit for its wars and victories. Yoruba fought other Empires. For many years we trounced Dahomey but it came at last and won a victory over us. Nupe defeated us, we recovered and defeated them. Fulani defeated us, we recovered and defeated them. When the British came we defeated them twice in Lagos and by act of accident Britain was able to gain upper hand and seized the town from us. They went to Ijebu and fought them. Ijebu protected its waterways and toll gate stubbornly. At last Britain gained upper hand. Except in Lagos, no other dynasty in Yorubaland was ever exiled or deposed by Britain. In fact the case of Lagos, Kosoko showed them pepper, they ended up begging him for peace so they can focus on their trade with no distraction. There are only three ancient dynasties in Nigeria that never lost chain or throne to a foreign power. Yoruba is one, Borgu is second, Kanuri is third. None of the other two has spent as many years in war as Yoruba did, internally and externally. In fact Ibadan at one single time was fighting five directional wars, each with a different enemy force and it defeated every one of them. Successes of Nigeria over Biafra were secured in the camps that had Yoruba in command. Imagine if the people you call coward had not come forward to rescue MidWest, you would speaking Ibo by now. I know some of you like to refer to Ilorin. The game changer in Ilorin was Afonja. Even the Fulani feared Afonja, and when he laid dead they continued to shoot arrow into him so there won't be surprises. Take Afonja out of the picture and Fulani would never had entered into Yorubaland with warfare.....but thats all in hindsight now, Fulani rule Ilorin and there's no wishing it away.


How many of the enemies you ever fought and won were Empires? You can't go pick on small villages and hamlets to pay you tributary and you call that colonized.


Yes Bini defeated Eastern Yoruba communities, as narrated by Y0ruba, six of them, but these places got smart, recovered and defeated Bini in a rematch. This is the nature of war and conflicts. You will not be the first to defeat Yoruba towns or the only one we took reprisal against and collected our victory back.


When you speak of yourself in grandeur terms I want you to reflect and remember what history you are recalling. You are bragging on what was written about you and circulated around the world in publications. The earlier writers became reference for the historians, anthropologists and linguists that came behind. I want to show you the profile ozone of the early chroniclers of Bini history, named Olfert Dapper. This man's work is what became the manuscript of Bini history and was used as reference by other writers.



Olfert Dapper was born in early 1636 in the Jordaan in Amsterdam. On 6 January 1636, he was baptized in the Lutheran church in Amsterdam.

In 1663 wrote a book on the history of Amsterdam. His Description of Africa (1668) is a key text for African studies. His book "is one of the most authoritative 17th century accounts on Africa published in German. Translations appeared in English, French, and German. Dapper never traveled to Africa but used reports by Jesuit missionaries and other (Dutch) explorers. Within a few years he published about China, India, Persia, Georgia, and Arabia. His books became well known in his own time. The fine plates include views of Algiers, Benin, Cairo, Cape Town, La Valetta, Marrakech, St. Helena, Tangier, Tripoli, Tunis, as well as, animals and plants.

Dapper was buried on 29 December 1689 in Amsterdam.[1]
This man that has never set foot in Africa wrote this about Bini.

"The king's court is as large as the city of Haarlem, and ... divided into many magnificent palaces, houses and rooms of the courtiers, and ... galleries, about as large as the Exchange at Amsterdam," the Dutch geographer Olfert Dapper wrote in 1668
This and many more embellishments is what you Edos live on and call greatness. It has blinded you to the realities around you. While you are stuck in a fantasy land built on white man's imagination and hallucinations of 1600, time has passed by and in 2000s your city has been reduced to an enclave and your tributaries of old have shut you out of the sea that once heralded your greatness to the world. Democracy rule the world now, not dynasty. The currency of exchange today is politics, not ivory. Where is your politics?


Anyway, I will return to my guest status but before I do, let me share with you that there are long list of researchers and writers on Bini, indigenous and foreign. It will be hard to quote of works of indigenous without appearing biased, even when its the truth. Therefore I will from time to time sign in and go deep and unravel your mysteries and myths so the world can see that Edo is an empty land....your foreign Oba is who brought you into world attention. Oranmiyan did for you what a thousand Ogiso could not do.



Here is list of writers I will be quoting from....

Olfert Dapper
James Graham
Laurenco Pinto
R.H. Bacon
Capt. Alan Boisragon
D. Van Nyendael
R.E. Bradbury
Dmitri Bondarenko
Henry Roth
A.F. Mockler-Ferryman
A.C. Burns
C.R. Niven
Thomas Hodgkin
J.D. Fage
Barbot
Barros
Artus
Windham
Welsh
Donnan
Capt. Landolphe
Burton
Owen
Gallwey
William Smith
Fawckner


Cheers!
CultureRe: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MayorofLagos(m): 2:20am On Jun 08, 2018
I give salute and respect to all my Yoruba brothers in here. I acknowledge your good works and output. You have done impressively well and gained the upper hand in this matter. How you guys pulled that ekhaladeran stunt off beats me! That was a major beat down in my opinion. Kudos guys! grin

Baba I thank you oo! grin I have actually been on and off as guest since page 10 and observed things from the side. Im coming in because I felt we should set some truths on both sides about this whole drama.


I address this to my people.

Let us be mindful and stay consistent on what we know to be truthful. Has anyone ever thought about the etymology of Bini? How about the etymology of Edo? Both of these words have origin in Yoruba. Bini is corrupted from Ibinu and Edo is corrupted from Ado. The etymology of Bini is the Yoruba word for vexation. If it was possible to own rights to the name Bini, Oranmiyan would hold the right. Oramiyan coined the name in his native Yoruba language. The name was then donated to a new found-land. How about Edo, how did it come about? This one will need a bit explanation. The root word is "do". "Do", as in sex is a living application of the root word. The etymology of the word is "coupling". I am not a linguist nor an ethnographer but the few things Im learning in Yoruba has helped to expand my curiosities and spheres of knowledge. Yoruba philosophy teaches the duality and opposite forces of nature. Anytime you "couple" the opposite you yield a result. We don't know what result will come out, so we proactively approach Ifa to give us guidance. To settle a place our ancestors used the Ifa geo-matrix to "Te Do". Where Ifa says settle, they named it "A do". They will perform "etutu" (sacrifice) and "irubo" (offering) and placate all the forces of nature and element to couple on that spot and bring about a sacredness. This is the knowledge behind the sacredness of the many ADO towns in Yorubaland.

The party that left with Oranmiyan from Ife did not go to Bini or Edo, these names did not exist then. They first settled at a land that geo-matrix picked. On this land they performed ritual of sacred coupling and named it Ado. It later became known as Udo. The foreigners from lfe settled Udo.

Udo was not the land of the Ogisos. The Ogiso land was Igodomigodo and this is where Oranmiyan renamed to Ile Ibinu. With time culture and civilization of the foreigners became the mainstream social order and Ogiso went into disuse, likewise Igodomigodo. The ruler is no longer Ogiso but is now Omo N'Oba N'Udo. With time the two capitals, Udo and Bini, became one after the Oba relocated from Udo to Bini. At that point Edo had become the preferred use. So Bini and Edo were imports that replaced Igodomigodo. Bini represents political power, Edo represent the spiritual energy.

So it makes sense as some of you have done to separate and acknowledge ownership of Bini and shield it from denigration. The opponents we are debating against are descendants of Igodomigodo, not Bini or Edo, but we will concede Edo for them because they are the indigenous owners of the land, Oranmiyan did not bring land from Ife. Therefore let's be mindful, Yoruba insults ourselves when we insult Bini. We do justice when we insult Edo and igodomigodo.



The other point I want to make is I am very proud of the way you guys don't engage them in the caustic use of vulgar and abusive language. You are capable of returning the favor, no doubt....but they showed sign they were falling apart and had no logical and superior points left to argue on beside repetition. The emptiness could not be concealed they bursted out with name calling and shooting below the belt. They collapsed under the weight of your pressure.


Oodua A Gbe wa!

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