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Guys don't worry the hatchet man will soon pull the trigger, there is just one person that Atiku and his PR have no clue how to deal with its Prof. Maurice Iwu.
Atiku's ambition will soon come to an end.

ATIKU'S ELECTION MANIFESTO, I WILL RELEASE DOKUBO.

God dey sha

Seun has brought another dimension to all of this, was anyone even proposing that Niger-Deltans should be massacred/// We are saying there is need for military action against militants not civilians.

Seun:
None of the actions of these militants constitute an excuse for the FG to engage in future violence against civilians.

Every now and then naval officers are killed, a police station was burnt down and these militants were on the floor shooting rocket propelled granade against a helicopter. If those are not acts of war against the Nigerian State tell me how you define war and civillians.

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The leftists have come to stay and will rule for a very long time.

Ejarune:
some comments in this forum really makes me laugh, the fact is that no body with his real senses would support what the millantants are doing when you look at the embarrassment it's causing to the nation. some of us are privileged to have a job and meet most of our daily needs that is why we can reason well. but what do you expect from someone that struggle to go to school graduated and and does not have a job to feed. what would you expect from someone who grows up knowing his community is blessed with oil which feeds the whole nation and still can not have the basic needs of life. what would you expect from someone who has been denied the basic education in life because there is no good primary school in his community. the list is much. All this are a products of the seed our leader have sow. they have planted it ,it has grow up and this is the harvest. please don.t get me wrong am not happy with what i see but it is also a fact that what we see is a product of what was sow.

If you are not privilege to have what you have now ( Staying abroad, a good education and job) i tell u some of you would be doing likewish especially when you know it is your right to this things

No matter how long your list might be, those who denied them schools, basic amenities in the midst of plenty are still within the locality. How many house of rep speaker in nigeria have seen N20b before. I bet you even the Speaker of National House of Representative (Aminu Bello Masari) have not seen 20billion before but Chibuike Amaechi has it in his account. Amaechi is not an hausa or yoruba man, he is not a white man he is from the same Niger-Delta. The militants should hold their immediate government reponsible enough of all this trash.

Soon the Nigerian Army will act, mark my words.

toshmann:
why is PDP afraid of Atiku? Atiku will not be president b/c PDP will rig the election anyway, so why all this wahala heating up the polity?

just b/c he started his campaign in Kano with such massive crowd that the presidency was shaken into something drastic.

Look i don't give a shit about Atiku or PDP. they are all the same to me, but I care for peace in the country b/c when the bubble bursts these people will run the foreign countries with their families while poor people will remain in nigeria to suffer

As if the plot to disqualify Atiku started this week, why all this talk of Kano massive crowd , did the EFCC and Presidential Panel of Enquiry indict him this week After that indictment it was obvious he was not going to take part in elections. The truth is that I suspect Garba Shehu has some strong ties with the media otherwise I don't understand why the Nigerian media keeps reporting news from an Atiku point of view.

@BigB1

This is not about pride, your proposal is like asking a hen to leave her chick in the custody of a hawk. It ai'nt going to happen.

And trust me that list is no blow to nobody, all Nigerian FG needs to do is to ignore the rantings of the US or EU. Nigeria does not answer to the US or anybody.

What are all the buzz about, Russia recently killed Alexander Lithunuenko on British soil. Even after clear evidence while trailing Polonium210 points to Andriy Lugovoy (an agent of Russian Government), Britain still cant do nothing. Why? Russia will not extradite its citizens.

So the point is Nigeria just like any other Nation does not answer to US, Uk or the EU as a whole.

If we had a responsible government we dont even need them to be our ally, all we need is to use what we have to negotiate for what we want.

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@BigB1

Good

So tell me how what the EFCC did is different from how the Megans Law (see details from earlier post) works in the US. In both cases there are people who have not been caught and convicted, in both cases the public is informed of who to be weary of without any court verdict proving they are guilty.
US should leave Nigeria alone.

Big B1:
@McKren:

Please do not get carried away, it's not that serious.
I've only referred this post to you because of a related discussion we had few weeks ago "Atiku inviting United States to monitor the coming election"
Can you remember?

Please, believe me, my man; you're alright, but not that important to me.

Furthermore, if typing your name in bold is making you uncomfortable, I promise, I will stop.

Man stop taking all we do here so seriously, I was only bringing humour to the whole dramma.

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Did you see that/ in the so called US, the land of the free people's names are publised in the public domain before trial so that parents and kids will be weary of them. Tell me how that is different from people standing election who have questions of corruption to answer and the EFCC informing the Nigerian people to be weary of them.

Does the FBI provide proof of investigations to the Nigerian government?

BigB1 I tell you something, America is no ones friend and so too is EU. This people will not like to see Nigeria succeed. They are obviously not wishing a second China in the nearest future. Tell me why Nigeria should entrust its future in the hands of US, a country that openly predicted we will be a failed state soon. A country who some 8months ago was indirectly canvasing power to return to the North only to remind Nigerians 3 months to election that the two front runners are religous extremist. A country who is so quick to reports our failures and ethnic differences with the latest Niger-Delta documentary top on the list.  All they want in this country is confusion.
 When Hurrican Katrina happened did the US government not fail? did the world celebrate it.

I will always tell you this, nobody will help this country. We have to look for Nigerian solutions to Nigerian problems. PERIOD.

Someone is getting fund of me on nairaland, otherwise how would you explain a situation where someone refers a post to me even when am yet to post, or how will you explain him typing my name in bold and others normal .

All this na gra-gra, as them waste Saddam Hussein, Iraq no still dey try to move on?
Them go conclude his case waste am nothing they happen. Naija will still move on.

Use of military force in Niger-Delta is long overdue. As long as the bussiness of kidnapping and collecting money is very easy and lucrative the issue will not be resolved. Yes there is need for the government to ensure accountability in all level of governance and improve the standard of living, but there is also need to deter those thieves from the act.

Besides that I think and have said it before, the Problem of Nigeria requires a wholistic approach whether in ijaw or sokoto. Dealing with Naija Delta issues specially while neglecting other part of Nigeria stategically translates into brewing youth restiveness of the future for other region.

Reminder: Once upon a time Nigeria's economy was based on agriculture from other regions, we also exported coal found in enugu those days, today it is based on oil from the Niger-Delta, with the world's quest for cleaner fuel which has low carbon emmissions Nuclear energy is inevitable. Nigeria's Uranium deposits are not in the Niger-Delta. So lets be reasonable.

I think APGA can replace Etiaba for Peter Obi as its Guber Candidate if not the best thing Obi can do for the people of Anambra is to ensure Andy Uba does not win the elections. After then I will now start celebrating.

ono:
For me, I'll prefer the Americans having free access to our oil than what currently obtains, never mind that the access is not really free.

where about in N'Djamena, I guess chad. If your truly a Nigerian I advice you relocate soon. What a shameful statement.

This talk of Religion and God in all that we do is sign of lack of ideas.

People will come out to campaign instead of telling Nigerians their plans they tell you "Only God can stop them", "by the Grace of God they will win" and all that trash. I personally get weary of Nigerian politicians as soon as they start calling God.

Talking about Religous leaders (christain & muslim leaders) they are not to be trusted. Most of them are living in affluence, good house, three cars, kids getting education abroad while the congregation are living in abject poverty.
They keep on preaching dooms day and how the present life is worthless and what people should crave for is life after death. Meanwhile they are enjoying all there is to enjoy in the present life.

Dont get me wrong I do believe in God but religous leaders should be responsible to the congregation both spiritually and economically.

@Abeem

It will do my heart a great pleasure if you can provide a straight forward answer to my question.

Right most Nigerians feel the country is messed up and OBJ is very corrupt:
Question: "Will it be justified if a military officer truncates the present democracy on that ground"

Read the article properly, your excerpts are conclusion drawn by thisday, but the excerpt I posted is a qoute from an INEC official.

Ok if INEC was conclusive on the issue how come only thisday heard it??/ Atiku has not been cleared owing to ongoing legal proceedings on the matter that does not mean he has been disqualified.
Dont get me wrong, I am waiting to see Atiku disqualified. But some times members of Turaki Vanguard ovrshoots issues so as to blackmail the process before hand and I dont want INEC to make such mistakes. They have enough tool to disqualify Atiku but that can only work if due process is observed.

Niger Delta: US firm, Willbros, pulls out of Nigeria
By Chijama Ogbu with agency report
Published: Friday, 9 Feb 2007
Willbros Group Incorporated, an oil and gas services company, has sold its Nigeria subsidiary to Ascot Offshore Nigeria Limited for $155.3m.

The company’s exit from Nigeria after 44 years comes amid a rash of violence and kidnappings of oil workers in the Niger Delta region.

More than 100 captives have been taken in Nigeria’s oil-producing region since militants stepped up attacks on the country’s oil industry last year.

The United States firm said it received $150m in cash under terms of the agreement with the Nigerian energy service company.

The company cautioned that the “many variables” affecting its contracts in Nigeria could result in material adjustments, but said it was not expecting a loss on the sale.

Willbros had bought out certain minority interests for $10.5m as part of the transaction.

Under the deal, Willbros had agreed to let Ascot use its brand and trademark in Nigeria for a period.

Wilbros had said in August that it planned to sell its operations in Nigeria and Venezuela to cut risks in those volatile regions.

Willbros cited the deteriorating security situation in Nigeria at that time, including the February 18 kidnapping of nine oil workers from one of its boats.

“Willbros got an excellent price for their Nigerian assets, which are on the books at $108m,’’ Lewis Kreps, the Managing Partner at Aperion Group LLC in Dallas, told Bloomberg News in a telephone interview.

“Their investors are going to be very pleased because Willbros can get out of there now. The Nigerian delays were hurting them, and they have plenty of business in the US,’’ he said.

Kreps has a “buy” rating for Willbros stock and owns none.

The Chief Executive Officer of Willbros, Mr. Randy Harl, said in a statement that the company planned to use the sale proceeds to pursue projects offering a better risk-adjusted return.

JP Morgan Securities acted as financial adviser to Willbros for the Nigerian sale.

The company’s Venezuelan businesses, including a marine yard and offices on Lake Maracaibo, were sold in August

Maybe when all this people go the youths will go and look for jobs in ota farm or arik air.

A senior INEC official told THISDAY last night that the Commission had no option but to stay action on clearing the vice president “for now” pending the determination of the court cases and resolution of the investigations against his candidature

That does not seem to me as disqualification, another irresponsible headline.

Neglect of the people by their immediate government (LGA & State Government) is the same whether they produce oil or not. The militants are not better of either, Asari was given N300million naira by the FG tell me one people oriented project he used it for in the interest of those he claims to be fighting their interest.
Well it is good this is happening, maybe that is the only way the Elite will take the people seriously because right now Nigeria is becoming unsafe for both the poor and the rich.

@Mamajama

You guys have to be very careful with the CNN and their interest. When the US or UK want to destabilize any country they use the CNN or BBC for a start to do some damaging documentary. CNN and BBC are not just media houses.
E.g. The BBC interpretation of Kaduna Nzeogwu coup as Igbo power play fueled that civil war and has caused distrust amongst ethnic groups in Nigeria till date, the same BBC interpretation of the killing of Juvenal Habi Arimana aided the Rwandan genocide in which the Hutus massacred the tutsis. But the same BBC will hardly do such inflamatory news on the activities of IRA, BNP or Islamic extremists against the British public.
You may want to argue that they try to be transparent in their report but the truth is that some of these media houses owe some sense of responsibility to volatile nations expecially in Africa.

No doubts people are suffering in the Niger-Delta, so too are people suffering in other parts of the countrty and I must confess the situation demands for urgency on the part of Government. But we must be careful of American interest in a disintegrated or failed Nigeria. They have predicted that Nigeria will soon be a failed state, this same CNN did another interview reported on with one Major General Tamuno of MEND claiming all they want is to tear Nigeria into pieces a statement which even the MEND spokesman considers irresponsible.

Besides that the future Nigeria will not be determined by outlaws, no development will be achieved in a war torn Nigeria. We must contructively organise and chanel our grieviances to the government not by taking people hostage or killing men of our armed forces.

@deepsoul

What I meant by "telling who ever you know to desist from the act" was basically to remind Otokx that there is no justification for the act. He should criticise the act rather than finding justification for them.
I can see you leave in PH, You may not know them but go and ask those who know them, expecially arround Borikiri, Niger, Victoria in Town they will tell you that Soboma George and Ateke Tom (who are top brass) are former touts who are now exploiting what looks like a more lucrative and popular act of theft.

On a more serious note, I think its becoming fashionable these days to abuse the President. People when they want to show how bold they are or their new found love for democracy they start making derogatory statements against the person of the President.
I totally agree that sense of diplomacy while answering questions is not one of OBJ's strongest points but this idea of exploiting every opportunity to redicule the President is not the best. Because Hate him or love him, selective or not, OBJ has changed our value system about corruption. His greatest sin is standing againts his bossom friends of which if he remained loyal to them we the ordinary Nigerians would have been the greatest loosers.

@emr

"How did u do?" sorry I mean to say "how does you do"   chai, gramma hard oh
abeg make I knack am for broken

e nor dey enough to say OBJ no get manners, u suppose tell us wetin him talk wey make u think so. Make u remember say, sake of say e nor talk wetin you wan hear nor follow for bad manners.

People before you go on with some of these arguments I will advice you hear from the horses mouth. Browse the name "Carne Ross" and see how this Ex-British diplomat got fed up with deception.

, Ross, a confident, crop-haired 38-year-old, spent 15 years in the Foreign Office. He loved the life but ultimately hated having to bend the truth on behalf of his country. The gradual process of disillusionment began in Germany in the mid-1990s when refugees from the war in Yugoslavia flooded into the country. "We of course supported the British policy that the war in Yugoslavia was a civil war and that an arms embargo was a fair way of treating all the parties," he says. "This was deeply mistaken and inhuman. In effect it enabled one group to genocidally pursue another. The war was born of a grasp for power by Milosevic and his henchmen on the back of an invented Serb nationalism.",

see full page on http://politics.guardian.co.uk/interviews/story/0,,1510368,00.html

It was an agonised experience because I knew that the evidence they were presenting for WMD was totally implausible. I'd read the intelligence on WMD for four and a half years, and there's no way that it could sustain the case that the government was presenting. All of my colleagues knew that, too. We all believed the Iraqis had something, but that is very different from saying they had that much. The intelligence indicated that they'd failed to account for what they had in the past. They hadn't given us a complete account of the disposal of their past stocks, so we thought there was something, but there was no way that the claim of an imminent threat was sustainable. The 45-minute stuff was ridiculous."

"I told [the inquiry] what I knew in terms of the evidence on WMD and what the inspectors told me during the four and a half years that I dealt with it," he says. "I also wrote down my views on the available alternatives to war, which were fairly forthright. I felt that war should be the last alternative, and emphatically it was not in this case. There was a very good alternative to war that was never properly pursued, which was to close down Saddam's sources of illegal revenue. That testimony crystallised what I felt about the Iraq issue, and once I'd written it I felt there was no going back. I had to quit. I couldn't honestly work for this government with a smile on my face."

Please people this is not a list of all the corrupt people in Nigeria as such a list will contain at least 90% of all politicians and public officials. This list is only an advisory list to Political Parties on candidates they have put forward for elections.

I dont understand how Anenih, Odili, Ibori or Even Babangida should be expected to be on that list when they are not standing for elections.

I dont know what you mean by defence, what I think he does is counter attack.
He has not said he is innocent he rather suggests his boss is a bigger thief than himself which in itself is admittance of guilt. Nigerians in rejecting third term has rejected his boss, now we have to reject the self-acclaimed smaller thief.

osigwe:
lady t ignorance has not made you to see that atiku is today the true face of democracy in nigeria.a man who has exposed the wickedness and deceitfullness of obasanjo's regime against all odds.atiku has came out with facts against the goverment while the govment is only speculating on atiku a man who is always ready to face any probe panel can that be said of obasanjo?is iyabo not currupt?where is andy uba's name or is akala longer going for gorvernor please we should be fair in our views let obj come out and defend himself

Atiku being the true face of democracy or better still the symbol of democracy is an imaginary conception which exists only in the thoughts of members of Turaki Vanguard and their supporters. To them the definition of democracy is the President initiating a transition programme that will ensure the emergence of his vice anything else is undemocratic.

Fine Atiku has exposed OBJ. But the question is, if majority of his accusations dates back to 3years and beyond why did he not leave up to his oath of office all the while to protect the constitution he swore to defend. Why did it have to take him being indicted of fraud before he tells the Nigerian people questions of fraud by the FG.Why did it have to take this long before he begins to protect this so-called democracy he proclaims to believe in?? why did it take him so long and whats the motivation behind his latest outburst. To me this is the height of desperation, exploiting the wish of the people to pursue his personal and clandestine motive. The beauty of it all is that Nigerians are not getting decieved.

For your info this is not the first time Atiku has tried to blackmail his boss in other to be no.1. Go and read Mustapha Jokolo's account of the 53suitcase scandal of 1984 you will realise this guy has a history of vaulting ambition and abuse of office.