₦airaland Forum

I wish the Presidency will remain silent and not react to this issue.

Y2k:
O boy live that babe alone. You done too disturb.

correct miami no too far from texas. You no need to attack me to attract her interest.

Go and read your post on the thread OUK on Hardtalk and probably you will appreciate what my wahala is.

nikynike:
Eh Donn, it will be better if for them to kidnap people from their local areas,governors and their families.And live the foreigners alone.

how come u don't consider the fact that the boys may not be hearing you on this occassion.??

Should we consider that as a response from orji or his sister?
Well 2007 Nigeria does not deserve a clueless leader.

Well I think people should translate some of what Orji said in there various languages and see if it still makes sense to them. Expecially " I am the governor and yet its not my duty to clean up refuse".

Whats up LadyT where have u been?

@Donzman

Orji is simply clueless and has no idea what governance is about. If he can not communicate his ideas in any language his actions and achievements should speak for themselves. Nothing works in Abia state nothing. Go to Aba no roads, vultures everywhere climbing on gabage yet you claim he has got ideas.
Donzman. Igbos are democratic by nature. We dont do blind loyalty in igbo land the guy is simply clueless. Say it as simple as it is.

This is getting interesting, Buhari thinks Atiku is dead politically. Me thinks they are both dead

Since Nigerian journalists are not living up to expectation, I wish Yaradua and Buhari should go on to Hardtalk lets even see what they are all about.

@Donzman

Please stop boring people with this talk of Orji being rich before he got into politics. He is not anymore smarter or hardworking than the average Nigerian. He only inherited stolen wealth from his mother. His mother had strong ties with succesive military governments in this country so whats the fuss about him being wealthy before politics about.

Its like Muyiwa Obasanjo coming out in 15years time to tell us he was rich before he got into politics as if he knew some money making tricks his mates did not know


@General
People keep on making derogatory statements about other tribes. Orji's failures is about his individual self and not about the Igbo race. Its like using Adedibu to judge the whole yoruba. When people discuss the likes of Dora Akunyili, Okonjo Iweala or Ken Nnamani they will not be specific about their tribes. They refer to them as Nigerians but as soon as its Orji or Arthur Nzeribe people start talking craps like Igbotic.

This is 2007 Nigeria we are discussing and not 1967, all this needless hatred for the Igbos must stop. We are not the most illiterate people in Nigeria for that matter.

On a more serious note, I like to thank OUK for going abroad to convince the world that EFCC is doing a good job. Tell me which sane person will not be convinced that EFCC stopping a man like that is in order.

People are just bashing Kalu's gramma that is not even the height of his ignorance. The guy does not even understand questions. Otherwise how do you explain the conversation below:

Alan Little:

Do you accept this characterisation of the state of Nigeria by Nuhu Ribadu as "megalithic kleptocracy is perhaps the greatest human tradegy that has affected our people and society since slavery and colonialism yet this act of shameless unbridled state plunder continues" do you think that is right

Orji Kalu:

no no no, I don't accept accept that from Mr. Ribadu. Let me tell you the EFCC went to the state because Obasanjo wanted to stay for third term

Meaning that he does not even know the different uses of the word "state".

I think Nkem Owoh (Osofia) needs to do a version of this interview. I have not seen a better comic relief for a long time. I think its good for the transition programme, at least there is something laugh about.

@Shutmouth

You dont need to be sickened if you understand what people stand for. Even Ribadu says when you try to fight corruption, corruption tries to fight back using the Law.
You can expect, nobody will tell you corruption is right bu will rather find there way arround the law to defend their interest.

@swing4real

anyways in the land of the blind the one eye man is always the leader.

I simply don't understand where you are getting at with that. At what land of the blind is Orji the one eyed king. There are loads of brilliant people from Abia OK?

@Topic
I am personally not concerned about Orji Kalu's fluency in English. Cos the language is someone else's. If you get to the streets of Britain you will see how you can't match illiterates, who are not able to spell their name, in spoken english. Then you will appreciate this language belongs to someone else.
But the fact remains that Orji would not have even done better if that interview was conducted in Igbo. He was clueless and had no idea what leadership is about.

What I found so funny was his attempt to change where the emphatic stress on ABA should be because he wants to talk like the white man.
He was pronouncing A'[/b]ba
instead of
ab[b]A'.

@BigB1

So disappointed to realise you have time to post on this thread. Iweala for President how/
She is not even part of the political process at the moment.
This thread is a waste of time and space.

She is one of our finest brains, but she is not even thinking of being president so why the topic??/

chidi trying to defend orji is an excercise in futility. It is clear that he has no clue what governance is all about. He was proud to tell the whole world that Aba being dirty is not his problem and yet he is the governor. If he becomes president Niger-Delta will not also be his problem. That is the height of ignorance, it has nothing to do with the ability to speak english. He was clueless.

The laws of the land are obviously prevailing on this occassion, Atiku has a question of fraud to answer before a court and thus INEC has to stay action on his candidacy until that case is resolved. That is the provision of the law. INEC as a responsible agency has only informed AC on the need to replace their candidate owing to the slim timscale and its entirely up to AC to oblige. How is that not within the confines ofthe law?

Except you are praying that INEC should circumvent the constitution to clear Atiku.
My guy take heart ok!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

How do you mean the EFCC being apolitical like Nafdac. Their realms of operation are wide apart. EFCC is a fraud prevention agency (Economic & Financial Crimes Commision), in a society where the greatest fraudstars are politicians tell me how it will be inevitable for EFCC to engage in politics.
It is like accusing NAFDAC of protecting some bussiness interest against the other when you have not lived up to the requirement.

4 Play:
The title of the thread is misleading.It is based on a story that is attributed to anonymous Congressional sources.These anonymous Congressional sources are often quoting equally anonymous Congressmen

This is voodoo journalism in its most shameless form

This is the problem we have in Nigeria, when a US congressman gives his opinion they say the US have spoken. When Olisa Agbakoba gives his personal opinion they say NBA have spoken. Retired soldiers will demonstrate for their pension and the headline will read "Soldiers take over Abuja" what is that all about??

@adconline

Well if a list was drawn up by a fraud investigation agency recognised by the state and based on that list a panel of enquiry was set up by the FG and politicians were invited to defend themselves in which some refused to attend. Then they are indicted and you call that illegality or undemocratic maybe we will need you to explain what you mean by something being legal.

I have said it before Atiku is not democracy personified, neither is his name synonymous to democracy such that anything against his interest is undemocratic no matter how constitutional it might me.

Talking about Olisa Agbakoba adding his voice to your argument, that amounts to nothing cos even Gani Fawenhinmi thinks otherwise.

Talking about precedents, that set by killing third term is so good for our democracy. Trust me no one will come up with that ugly proposal at least in the next 50years. On this issue of corrupt politicians another good precedent has been set,
wanna stay safe dont embezzle money. If you dont have questions to answer you dont need to be the President's friend.

@adconline

Stop posting stuffs you want to hear. I got a couple of questions regarding the constitution and other issues which will do my heart a great pleasure if you address them.

I meant I simply dont understand how highest number of registered voters translates into most populous state.

I think adconline has corrected himself anyway!!!!!!!1

Arguing over this issue is over flogging a dead horse.
The message is simple, R.I.P. for Atiku's ambition.

Please those who love him should take heart. People like Florence Ita Giwa were reported to have shed tears when third term was killed but finally they accepted reality, those who have lost out on this occassion because the constitution was applied to the letter should also take heart.

if u no sabi read u 4 talk now. since which time highest number of registered voters and highest population come be the same thing?

I simply don't understand

All the Atiku fans in the house should TAKE HEART.

Thanks a lot for this video. Orji has just gone to show the world what a clown he is, someone that cant clean refuse in Aba will solve Niger-Delta problem. What a joke.

So proud to tell the world that he has been governor for 8years but only cleaned Aba last week.

So proud to tell the world that Abia recieves N1.5b while his salary is N1.3b yet he was so rich before coming into Government and not after state fund.

He was lucky he was not interviewed by Stephen Shakur, the hardest man on hardtalk. That one would have asked him how a man who could not clean up refuse in Aba will resolve Niger-Delta problems. I hope more of these politicians go on to hardtalk.

The same old story.
That a certain Mr.A is corrupt does not make a corrupt Mr.B innocent. That defence is unacceptable anywhere in the world except in Nigeria.

Radiant:
As in. . . can u please translate

hahahahahhahahaha, translate english to english. oh dear!!!!!!

The Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) and the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) had a sharp disagreement last week over how to treat the list of political office seekers indicted for alleged corruption by the EFCC.


Sources told Saturday Tribune that while the EFCC wanted INEC to accept the list as a basis for the disqualification of the candidates, the electoral commission disagreed.


INEC, sources said, argued that the EFCC could not disqualify any candidate since the constitution did not give it such powers.


It was gathered that shortly after the EFCC completed the compilation of the list, the Chairman of the commission, Mallam Nuhu Ribadu, took it his counterpart in INEC, Prof. Maurice Iwu, asking him to use it as the basis for the disqualification of those indicted.


Iwu, top sources in INEC and EFCC said, insisted on February 8, when he met Ribadu that the process was wrong and thus requested for a meeting of the principal officers of both agencies.


This resulted in a 12-hour meeting between Iwu, Ribadu and senior members of staff of the two agencies.


At the meeting, which was attended by top officers of the two agencies, Iwu reportedly said that the EFCC does not possess the powers to disqualify the 135 political office seekers on its own.


Among those on the list, some of who were eventually axed by the Administrative Panel set up by the Federal Government, were the Vice-President, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar; the Lagos State Governor, Asiwaju Bola Tinubu; the Abia State Governor, Chief Orji Kalu; his Kano State counterpart, Mallam Ibrahim Shekarau; the Borno State Governor, Alhaji Ali Modu Sherrif; and Chief Lanre Tejuoso, seeking the Ogun Central Senatorial ticket on the platform of the All Nigeria Peoples Party.


Sources hinted Saturday Tribune that based on the legal advice by the INEC’s National Commissioner, Legal, Mallam Mohammed Abubakar, Iwu told Ribadu that based on Section 137 (i) of the 1999 constitution, only “a Judicial Commission of Inquiry or an Administrative Panel of Inquiry or a Tribunal set up under the Tribunals of Inquiry Act, a Tribunals of Inquiry Law or any other law by the Federal or State Government” could indict and disqualify a candidate indicted for embezzlement or fraud, with only the courts constitutionally empowered to vacate such order.


Iwu was said to have explained that it was based on this reason that the commission was awaiting the pronouncement of the courts before taking a position on Abubakar, the presidential candidate of the Action Congress, who was indicted by an Administrative Panel over the handling of the funds of the Petroleum Technology Development Fund.


Sources said that some INEC commissioners at the meeting were particularly miffed at the inclusion of Tejuoso’s name, arguing that since he had never held any public office, he could not have been indicted for corruption.


According to some of those at the meeting, a further argument was put forward that even if Tejuoso was a contractor, except where he did not execute such contracts, he could not be held liable for his billing even if above the rate.


The source added, “The EFCC was told point blank that since Tejuoso was going to face the daughter of President Olusegun Obasanjo, Iyabo, at the poll, the meaning that would be read into it is that he is being punished for daring to stand for the election when he knew who his opponent would be.”


After close to 12 hours of argument, it was agreed that the report should be passed to the Presidency for appropriate action.


Ribadu reportedly agreed to this, making the report available to Obasanjo later that night.


It was based on the report that the Secretary to the Government of the Federation, Chief Ufot Ekaette, set up an Administrative Panel to probe those on the list.


Though most of them, especially the governors refused to appear before the panel, a white paper committee headed by Dr. Oby Ezekwesili approved the recommendation of the Administrative Panel to ban some of the political office seekers.


Head, Media, of the EFCC, Mr. Osita Nwajah, could not be reached on Thursday for comments on the development.


Nwajah’s mobile phone was not picked when Saturday Tribune called him.


INEC officials who could speak on the issue were said to be attending the commission’s seminar held on Thursday and Friday in Abuja.

THIS IS WHAT THE BRAZILLIANS CALL SAMBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

shutmouth:
I am happy we have a good Lawyer onboard

BRAVO McKren, Well Done!

Thanks Shutmouth
I am not a lawyer though, I only do have a copy of the constitution and do not think I have to go to the law school to understand them.

@adconline

You are very happy to give us the Thabo Mbeki and Jacob Zuma example in South Africa but you are not happy to suggest that just like Jacob Zuma, Atiku should have resigned and allowed full trial all this while so that when he comes out clean we will now know his claim of being persecuted because of third term is true.
This is a clear example of what is obtainable in Nigeria where Turaki Vanguard is happy to quote the constitution like some holy book when it works in their favour and try to use the court to circumvent it when its not in their favour. The most amusing was attempting to use the media to bully Maurice Iwu to clear Atiku even when he has pending court case on the grounds that the case will not finish before INEC deadline.
They want the same INEC they accuse of abbrogating to itself too much powers to on this occassion abbrogate to itself powers to flout the constitution in their interest.

WELCOME TO CONSTITUTIONAL DEMOCRACY.

@Adconline

You seem to know a lot about the constitution.
Can you tell us what section of the constitution says the NASS are the only ones to set up a panel of enquiry?

Talking about the Federal Government being a judge in its own case, the FG was not a plaintiff in the case but the EFCC. So how did you come about the FG being a judge in its own case?

As much as I know the EFCC and Administrative panel of Enquiry only indicted these politicians, so where is the talk of guilty or not guilty or prejudice coming from? Did the constitution say only those pronounced guilty must be barred from election or did it say nothing about those indicted?

Talking about circumventing the constitution, Atiku is the one using the courts as a tool to circumvent the constitution. He is openly making mockery of our democracy because he got enough money to buy over judges.

FG has not barred anyone but the constitution has barred people who have questions of corruption to answer by default. INEC has not re-invented the rule, there is an aspect of the constitution, basically section 137 which makes certain people unfit to stand election and its the duty of INEC to implement that aspect of the constitution.
But once again Atiku was trying to re-invent that aspect of the constitution by arguing its down to political parties to make sure candidates are fit for purpose. (such that if MEND where to metamorphose into a political party tomorrow, Nigeria will wait for MEND to screen out Asari Dokubo. What a mockery of democracy!!!!!!!!1)

Adconline if you are in Turaki Vanguard wake up AC (Alliance for Corruption) will not go anywhere.