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MrKontrovErsy:
yea
let my woman cook n look sexy for at home everyday
so dat wenevr i come bak home from work ill behold a sexy figure
i dont mind paying her 500,000 monthly for dat

So, you want your woman to simply be a "sexy figure", an object for you to simply behold like she hasn't got a life of her own, huh? She's human too, you know. She isn't an object only good enough to satiate your egoistic inhibitions. And you are in no way better than her or superior simply by virtue of your gender. I hope you're kidding though.

Behira:
Says who?

Says the man-made male chauvinistic Abrahamic religions.

A Christian pastor in Florida is caught on
video telling women their job is please
their husbands by cooking, cleaning, and
looking good.

Pastor Bill Lytell of Florida’s Gospel
Baptist Church took a moment to explain
to women what their role is in life:
You manage your home. You’re
responsible for buying the groceries,
make sure there’s food, make sure the
house is kept impeccable. You have a hot
meal waiting when your husband gets
home, you have the house all cleaned up,
laundry all done, dishes all done, baby all
fed, squared away, and meet him at the
door looking like a [kiss gesture] million
bucks.

That’s probably some of the best marriage
advice you ever got…

Ouch.

Earlier this year, Pastor Lytell went on a
wild rant , yelling at his congregation
“This is a man’s world!” while arguing
that men must rule over women and in so
doling implying that women are inferior
to men in “every church that’s right with
God.”

The following is an excerpt from Pastor
Lytell’s sermon explaining to his
congregation that it is a man’s world:
Don’t you be ashamed you go to a church
with male leadership. Every church that’s
right with God oughta have a sign: ‘Male
Leadership.’ Because that’s the only kind
of leadership, both from Adam all the
way to the last part of the Bible. It’s all
been male. This is a man’s world!
And all the men said, ‘Amen!’
There aren’t many places where men
can’t even rejoice anymore without
feeling about half-ashamed because they
try to put you down or sue you or
something, but brother this is a man’s
world. You can say what you want, you
can do what you want, but God made
Adam in leadership and it’s going to end
with a man in leadership.

Bottom line: Pastor Lytell’s imaginary God
wants men to rule over women, and
wants women to cook, clean, and look
pretty for their husbands. And while this
may be amusing for reasonable adults, it
is sad that there are some people who
actually believe this misogynistic non-
sense, and tragic that there are children
being taught this destructive and morally
repugnant message.

Source: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/09/christian-pastor-a-womans-job-is-to-cook-clean-and-look-pretty/

[quote author=Mindfulness post=37610745][/quote]Yeah, that one's deep.

Stories like this make me reexamine my scepticism about love. Totally mind blowing.

Since a tragic accident in 2011, Turia Pitt’s story
keeps resurfacing anywhere
inspirational stories are told. And for
good reason.

Turia is an all-around determined person.
She put herself through school to be a
mining engineer, supplementing her
income with modeling jobs. She took on
fitness at the most demanding level —
ultra marathons.

Then her life took a different turn.
The Australian ex-model Turia Pitt
suffered burns to 65 per cent of her body ,
lost her fingers and thumb on her right
hand and spent five months in hospital
after she was trapped by a grassfire in a
100 kilometre ultra-marathon in the
Kimberley.

But that same determination carried her
through this life-threatening trial. Not
only did she survive (as the doctors said
she probably wouldn’t), but she has gone
through dozens of surgeries with her
head held high. She is a motivational
speaker and advocate for Interplast, an
organization that gives free reconstructive
surgery to people in developing countries.

One other thing helped her endure
beyond her own inner strength, and that
was the love and support of her
boyfriend, Michael Hoskin.

His response to Turia’s injuries was
almost as impressive as hers. He quit his
job to care for her recovery. He stuck
with her all through the four tough years
since the bush fire, and has only good
things to say about her.

“She’s beautiful, you know, she’s
amazing. …She doesn’t want people to
feel sorry for her.”

He’s been quoted as giving this answer
when a reporter asked if he’d ever
considered abandoning Turia when it got
too hard: “ I married her soul, her
character, and she’s the only woman that
will continue to fulfill my dreams.” I can’t
find whether that’s a real quote or one of
those things that gets a life of its own on
the internet, but I think his actions speak
for themselves.

What a great example of unconditional
love.

Michael says he bought a diamond ring
while Turia was in Intensive Care 4 years
ago. They are engaged now, and I have a
feeling this marriage is going to be a great
one. They already know that their
commitment runs deep. It’s not based on
superficial feelings or looks. You never know what life’s going to throw at you after the wedding day.
The question is, will you let it change
the commitment you made? When I
promised Catherine, “until death do us
part,” I meant it. No matter what.

Marriage is not to be entered lightly.
When two people get married with the
kind of dedication that Michael and Turia
show, they become an example to the rest
of the world of what real love looks like!

Source: www.patheos.com/blogs/seanlowe/2015/08/if-your-partner-suffered-burns-from-head-to-toe-would-you-respond-like-this-guy/

cc: lalasticlala

Scholar8200:
Because the Loving God gave us a right of choice and being a God of Justice will not deny us our choice and its consequence! Is that against love? Not when that love has done all things possible to warn us.(and as a principle, He forces none thus each is responsible for his choices and we cannot change that)

As for hell,

43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
who 44 where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46 where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Mark 9:43-47

It beats me how an "all wise God" , an "heavenly" father", one who's supposed to be the quintessence of benevolence, a just judge, the mind that made this magnificent universe that we haven't even learnt a quintillionth about even with everything we now know, would deem it reasonable to create a grim, sick and morbid situation where his creatures who are incomparable to him in every respect would be punished infinitely in a fire for the choices they made in a very finite life (less than 100 for most). And this is supposed to be justice? And not to forget, he is omniscient and could have prevented or obviated the need for such a situation but didn't. It makes one marvel at how such a being could have made the universe. Seriously, he doesn't seem smart enough to have made this universe. He could never understand quantum mechanics or special relativity even if Einstein explained it to him. He's way too petty, petulant, impulsive and simple to be such an intelligent mind. He pays too much attention to trifles and quibbles. Even I, a young homo sapien below thirty, do not pay such attention to quibbling matters let alone the creator of the universe. That's why guys like Thomas Payne and David Hume couldn't accept Yahweh as the creator even though they believed in a creator. Let's call a spade a spade. Yahweh is dumb! Very dumb!

Thank you, princechrming. We learn everyday. I've learnt something here.

MizMyColi:
First recognise that you are not your mind. You are not subject to its dictate.

Identifying with your mind is what produces ego and the egoic self. That's a false sense of self.
Your true sense of self lies in being.

Stop letting yourself get beguiled with the antics of memory and anticipation.
Just be.
You now is enough. You now is all that matters.

Try watching your mind as an outer witness.
Try to observe yourself from without your mind.
Try observing your thought process and the reason you feel the way you do per time.

I wish it was that easy.

Ishilove:
On a more serious note, clowning aside

Johnydon22, what you are doing is trying to box God into the rational confines of the four walls of human reasoning. An exercise in futility, I must add.

You say the things you say because you do not know what you are talking about. You think you do, but you don't.

What you need is a 'Paul encounter' to open your eyes. Paul had to be blinded before he could see, and I hope God shows you mercy by 'blinding' you so that you too can see the light.

But the natural (carnal) man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned -1st Cor 2:14. KJV.

Bull.s.hit

MizMyColi:
It's all in the mind my dear."heaven" can be seen and felt in the here and now.

Many people are now learning to live in the present moment. Away from the dictates of time, and the mind.

All we have is now.
In the now.
All is well, our needs are taken care of.
We are not beguiled by the antics of memory and anticipation.

I've tried mindfulness taya but for wia! My mind likes to wander too fucking much. It's so crazy in here.

MizMyColi:

Thanks Sis.
Utopia's for everyone.

How feasible is utopia? We can't have it here.

Nice ass...pastor's jealous she ain't got it like that

Faith is believing strongly without evidence or maybe even repudiating evidence. It might also be loosely defined as trust, used interchangeably with the word trust. In that sense, one might have faith in whom one trusts.

Hope is simply expectation of something mostly fortuitous. Though one doesn't strongly believe with certitude and there mightn't be any clear evidence that what is expected will be gotten, yet one chooses to be optimistic without claim to certitude (as opposed to faith).

Love is a natural feeling of endearment or affection towards an object (a thing or a person). The feeling can be sometimes overwhelming. There are different kinds of love obviously but they all have one thing in common, I think: a deep sense of concern for the object of love.

My two cents.

Krystalzkris:
its not easy fighting an indoctrinated belief.. Really Having a hard time here

I had a hard time too. Now I am free. Fight on!

Klinee:
No, "OLU'' is an igbo word use to refer to those in riverine area.

But "olu" is also used to refer to our dialect.

Though I don't deny that the activities of these so-called Christians are acts of terrorism, I agree that it is simply a reaction from a fed-up people. People who have been terrorized, killed and brutalized over time by jihadists who thought they had a monopoly of violence. These guys seem to have reached their threshold and can't take it anymore. I think a similar thing happened in the north of Nigeria when a religious riot broke out prior to the emergence of BH. Some Christians took up arms to defend themselves and their families.

Incredible! I don't believe it!

Radoillo:
Why are you people talking about ceding territories. The OP opened this thread to say his people should identify as Igala and as Anambrarians. He said nothing about ceding Olumbanasaa and the other Igala speaking communities in Anambra to Kogi. All of a sudden you are talking about ceding Ibaji (who don't even identify as Igbo, nor speak Igbo as a first language, nor wish to be ceded to Anambra)? Nawa o.

Bros, I tire o.

bigfrancis21:
Please explain to me the sudden craze for attachment to Anambra state. It seems that people just want to identify with anambra state by any means possible, by marriage into the state or by birth or whatsoever. Of course, the Anambra state government recognizes the presence of Igala migrants in the state, just as Imo state recognizes the Hausa migrants living at Ama awusa. If you need that recognition you already have it. However, do not forget your ancestors are migrants, many of which have voluntarily decided to adopt the Igbo identity and assimilate into the greater Igbo fold (no identity crisis) and are well welcome in the state. Those that wish to maintain their Igala identity may choose to return to Kogi or live peacefully in the state. I wouldn't mind sponsoring a massive DNA test in those villages in identifying the actual Igala descendants and help those ones attaching to Kogi state find which villages they come from.

Or if push comes to shove, have Olumbanaasa re-allocated to Kogi state (I am sure you would love that, wouldn't you?) by boundary adjustment if that will help in abating your identity crisis.

Well, what more can I say? You've chosen to completely misrepresent my purpose for opening this thread. Good luck with kicking us back to Idah.

bigfrancis21:
What is complex about it? If Ajida had not migrated from Idah would you have been in Anambra today wondering about your identity or where you come from? Tell me what is complex about the simple fact that you originated from Idah in Kogi state? Except you want to tell me now that your blood line has been diluted by Igbo blood that your make up is more of Igbo now than it is Igala. You need not look further than this.

So it's high time we got kicked back to Idah, right?

bigfrancis21:
In all honesty, I do not think that your ancestry is far-to-fetch and worth all the unnecessary identity crisis. I would not stress my ancestry that much when it is simple and clear - that I am a descendant of Ajida, an Igala warrior man who migrated into Anambra from Idah, Kogi state. You had no need for your identity crisis in the first place when your ancestry is this simple and easy - you are simply from Idah born and resident in Anambra state. For your relatives and those who embrace their Igala ancestry, they should mention that they are from Idah when asked where in Kogi they are from. Feel free to extend this courtesy to your mom in case she isn't sure yet where in Kogi she is from. Those who embrace their Igbo origins, bear Igbo names and speak Igbo language are welcome into the greater Igbo fold of Anambra state.

It's actually more complex than that. Many of those who bear Igbo names and speak Igbo, do not acknowledge "Igbo origins". In the article you posted, didn't the Igbo-named Nzam chief trace their origins to Ajida too? You seem intent at subsuming the Igala people among you into the greater fold of Igbos. And you seem to have assumed that affirmation of our Igala ethnicity equates to not wanting to be from Anambra or wanting to form allegiance with kogi. So, to you, those of us who affirm our Igala ethnicity (many of whom bear Igbo names and speak Igbo) are not welcome in Anambra state? So it is a crime to affirm my ethnicity while yet acknowledging our presence as a minority in the state? We are no less indigenes of Anambra state than the Igbos in the state.

Aspire200:
You can also check out the University of Leeds, UK. I know it's out of your preferred locations, but they do have a solid, industry recognized MSc program in Exploration Geophysics with regular visits from top companies like Shell, Total, Schlumberger and the likes.

TU Delft is also very good for Europe. For the US, good choices are also Texas A & M and Colorado School of Mines.

Yeah, Leeds is good but I don't particularly find the UK attractive. It's never been in my plans. What do you think about the University of Oslo?

Yes, Radoillo. The Ibaji people also use the word "olu" for their language. My late grandmother was from there. And I vividly remember a guy from Aya (in Ibaji) using the same word.

@Radoillo, to tell you the truth, I don't know much about my people. I'm just getting to know the little I know now. I'd been misled all my life in thinking I'm from kogi. My parents especially my Mum remain obstinate on this point. Thankfully, I've grown into a young adult who's interested in getting the true picture of the state of affairs. In fact, I only recently visited Inoma (my Mum's place) for the first time. In my family, we didn't/don't have a tradition of visiting home due to the paranoid belief that everybody there's a witch or wizard and are all out to kill you. Mum "regaled" us with many anecdotes and legends to drive this point home. So, we grew up believing all the village people were evil and the village is a bad place, and were thus alienated. Of course, I've ditched all the crappy paranoid beliefs now.

As per culture, we are more like the Igbo. The kogi Igala (not Ibaji) way of life seemed very alien to me when I was there. We usually call the kogi Igala who are up north, "odikpale" in reference to their geographic location.

Thanks for the paper. If you have more scholarly work related to the subject of this thread, please kindly provide them. Thanks again.

Radoillo:
Francis and Pazienza, I have a feeling this might drag on longer than it should.
None of us here have heard of any traditions that claim Igbo precedence in Olumbanasaa communities. In such a state of knowledge, it is difficult to understand why both of you are tilting towards a hypothesis that those places were originally Igbo. It is more logical (considering the present state of knowledge) to accept them for what they say they are - which is fundamentally Igala villages that absorbed Igbo influence - until you come across traditions that say otherwise.

I'm naturally a very curious person, and since visiting Odekpe (this was about 2008) I've been asking questions and searching through published literature. So far only Nzam (which is not even numbered among the Olumbanasaa towns) appears to be the only one that has traditions about aboriginal Igbo people, even though not all versions of Nzam traditions agree on this.

Based on this, the only reasonable thing an objective person will do is accept, at least for the time being, that these communities were Igala from the beginning. To speculate about Igbo aborigines with no proof whatsoever is highly subjective and biased.

What if someone told you that the Izii communities in Benue State were founded by Idoma before the Izii got there? You'll probably strongly disagree with the person, or ask him to post links and proof, right? Same thing should apply here.

I think you've provided a more balanced approach to this issue. My father is from one of the Olumbanasaa towns, in fact, the same one you've been to. And though he originally bore an Igbo name, from all indications both he and the people from there in general, aren't ethnic Igbos. One of the posters here seems to think that because the people from these areas or their Igwe bear Igbo names, then that means they're Igbo or something like that. Actually, that doesn't prove anything. Maybe if he meets some of my relatives who have Igbo names and heavy Igbo accents, he'd rush into conclusions too. In fact, many of the Ibaji Igalas in kogi state bear Igbo names too. Does that prove they're ethnic Igbos too or their land originally belongs to the Igbos? He and the others speak as if the boundary between Anambra and Kogi was defined at the time the Igala people moved south.

Migration is not alien to us humans. It is very likely they settled in previously uninhabited areas, as can be found among cultures the world over. I see no reason to bring up this issue of "our Igbo land". They make it seem like an insignia "Igbo land" was stamped in the place. These guys just moved. They had no maps. None of us did back then. There was no way to know which was Igbo land or not. It was just land and they settled wherever they found suitable. It would only be logical to apply such ethnic appellations to land based on what we know now about these areas by simply asking the question, "who are people found there now?" Even if there were Igbo settlers before our Igala forbears came, it doesn't mean the place isn't ours or our home. It's the only real home we know. This was home to our ancestors and is now home to us and will be to our children. After all, no people have always been in a place. They had to move there at some point.

Inoma is also not part of Olumbanasaa, as well as Owelle and Ukwala. Inoma, Owelle and Ukwala are collectively referred to as Inoma Akator. The fact that these towns are not in olumbanasaa just like Nzam, isn't taken to mean they are Igbos, is it? The claim in the Wikipedia page about Nzam (whose link I also posted) that Nzam is "a unique igbo town" is also contended. You mentioned something about different "traditions" about Nzam which is obviously true. My uncle and wife (wife's Igbo) contend that the people of Nzam are not Igbo. They say they're just as Igala as the others. That in fact, many of them can't speak Igbo too but they all speak Igala and aren't really bilingual as Wikipedia claims. He says bilingualism is only on an individual scale. He is bilingual and so are my parents, but that doesn't mean bilingualism is a generic thing among us. He also grew up and schooled in our region.Mind you, this uncle of mine has never been pro-kogi but has always been pro-igbo. He prefers to tell people he's Igbo, since he speaks fluent igbo and bears Igbo names and is Anambra. He does this perhaps to avoid ambiguity. He even gave his kids Igbo names and has a problem with the word "Igala". Now, that brings me to another point. My uncle contends that we're "olu". Olu is the term for the brand of Igala we speak which is quite different from that spoken in kogi. Interestingly, many Igala people in kogi even contend that the Ibaji people among them are not Igala, and that their language is Ibaji as opposed to Igala. I don't know if this "olu" as the specific name of our language has anything to do with the "olu" in olumbanasaa, but it's worth investigating.

levelszik:
Whether igala or igbo, inasmuch as you are from anambra state, we see and treat you as one of us. You have no cause for panic. Jisieike!

That's the spirit.

bigfrancis21:
By some, are you referring to Nzam people or all of Igala descended peoples in Anambra state?

All

bigfrancis21:
Ok. However, I thought that the general impression was that the Igala residents in Anambra were bilingual and could speak Igala and Igbo?

I also had that impression but I have realised that some do not know a word of Igbo. Some only know the Igbo used in prayers in the Catholic church. But several can speak Igbo well. Both my parents speak fluent Igbo.