₦airaland Forum

The choice is still there:-

The Bible

or

Western Ideology

Okija_juju:
@ Ladylove

[color=#9900Think not that I am come to destroy the law[/b], or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

They will never understand, too much of westernization.

Okija_juju:
@ Ladylove

If you look closely at the highlighted portion of my extract from huxleys post, you'll see that all those scriptures all come from the new testament.

" seeing they see not hearing they hear not neither do they understand"

[/quote][quote author=saha link=topic=154215.msg2561354#msg2561354 date=1217084449]Jamaa ya gari,gaskiya kunai mana yawa duk hausa thread din da aka soma sai ya mutu bayan kwana biyu.hope ds one lasts.kun san dai arewa muna da labaru da yawa yakamata mu rika buga wa a nan.

Ga fili ga doki

ztyle:
. . . . and more list to come

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cold:
don't ask me how i knew because i was there.It simply boils down to what i have been sayin all along that the Hausas don't consider the yorubas as equals in the faith.

Sorry we have to ask for proof, otherwise your statement is flawed once again

cold:
I still insist that it is the yorubas that put themselves in a position to be looked down upon by the hausas.

The Hausa's as i said ealier consider the Yorubas as great muslims, we have couple of Yoruba clerics giving sermons in Kano. I graduated from Bayero University, throughout my 4 years the most of the exco of MSS are Yorubas. So the issue of inferioirty does not exist. However, premitive and illeterates peopel from the north have held this notion that only Hausa's & Arabs are muslims.

cold:
My statement may be debatable but definitely not flawed.

My statement may be flawed but debatable. That should be the right statement

cold:
Why does it have to be the Sultan of Sokoto that announces the sighting,

The Sultan of Sokoto is the spiritual leader of the muslim community in Nigeria.

cold:
not 1 of the recognised Obas in the South.Even if the sighting is done anywhere else it has to be relayed to the Sultan

The emir of Kano i assumed is one of the most powerful traditional rulers in Nigeria, more powerful and influencial than the Sultan himself, but he can not announce the slighting of the moon unless the sultan has directed. Same thing applied to other Obas

The choice is now on the draw table


The Bible teachings or Western Ideology.

Allahu Akbar

MALIAN Muslim footballer Fre{aac}de{aac}ric "Fredi" Kanoute{aac}, the striker of Spain's Seville FC, has saved the only masjid in the southern Spanish city of Seville from closure. Kanoute{aac} has paid €510,860 (some US$700,000) so that fellow Muslims in Seville would not find themselves without a masjid, the media reported recently.

The privately owned masjid was due to be sold after a contract to use the premises by the local Muslim population had expired. But Kanoute{aac} stepped in to purchase the building. The Islamic Community of Spain confirmed that a last-minute appeal was made to Kanoute{aac} after the mosque had been put up for sale.

The 30-year-old striker has not made any comment on the matter. But city authorities have confirmed that the property has been registered in Kanoute{aac}'s name, according to BBC Sport. It is estimated that Kanoute{aac} has spent almost a year's salary to buy the masjid.

Kanoute{aac}, a finalist for 2007 BBC African Footballer of the Year award, moved in 2005 from French champion Lyon to Seville FC, the 2006-07 Spanish league's third and the holder of last season's cup championship.

Spanish Muslims said they really appreciate Kanoute{aac}'s moving gesture. "If it had not been for Kanoute then we would not have had a masjid on Fridays, which is the most holy day of the week for Muslims," a spokesman for the Islamic Community of Spain was quoted as saying by BBC Sport.

Kanoute{aac}, who has also created a foundation in his motherland Mali to help orphans, reverted to Islam 10 years ago. Last Ramadan, he impressed Spanish football fans with his unique performance though he was fasting.

Kanoute{aac} was crowned last year the league's top scorer with 20 goals, outperforming football legends such as Brazilian Ronaldinho. Kanoute{aac}, a practising Muslim who regularly performs his prayers even in the locker room, refused last season to wear a jersey advertising for an Internet gambling site.

His team had to give him a brand-free jersey until he accepted wearing the sponsored jersey in return for money to an Islamic charity.

Born September 2, 1977 in Sainte-Foy-les-Lyon, near Lyon, Kanoute{aac}'s talents as a tall striker were first noticed by his local team, Olympique Lyonnais.

He joined them as an apprentice in 1997. He played for the French under-21 team while at the club. Kanoute{aac} joined English club West Ham United in 2000.

He went on to play 84 times for the East London club, scoring 29 goals. His speed and awareness attracted interest from Tottenham Hotspur who bought him at the end of the 2002-03 season.

Although eligible for either, Kanoute{aac} elected to play for Mali rather than for France. Kanoute{aac} was joint top goal scorer for Mali at the 2004 African Nations Cup. He scored four goals in four matches helping Mali to the semifinals where they lost to Morocco.

Kanoute{aac} enjoyed mixed success at Tottenham, where he scored on his debut with an acrobatic volley, with occasional flashes of brilliance marked by apparent pique when he preferred the African Nations Cup over the Premiership. He went Awol from Tottenham's 2005 tour to Mauritius.

Kanoute{aac} was sold to Sevilla on August 17, 2005 for €6.5m. He was a second half substitute for the club in the UEFA Cup Final against Middlesbrough and scored in the 89th minute. Sevilla won 4-0.

Kanoute{aac}'s first game for Sevilla against Tottenham Hotspur resulted in him scoring a (somewhat controversial) penalty at the Sanchez Pijuan in a game marred by crowd trouble, and an excellent goal at White Hart Lane, leaving the final aggregate score 4-3 to Sevilla .

I am a Hausa Muslim, to say the truth, we have for long respected Yoruba Muslims. For those of us that have travelled far we have come to the realization that though most of the muslims in Nigeria are Hausa's, a bulk of devoted muslims are actually non Hausa especially from Kwara & kogi. An average Hausa man that have not left the shore of his village feels that only Hausa & Arabs are muslims. They tend to be surprized whenever they meet a muslim from any other tribe.

Some look like Sharaih Law to me. Huxley are you sure you are quoting from the Bible not the Penal code.

The Joker:
I dey laffu o!
I am sure he must have shouted "FII LE !" _{for wheree}

RichyBlacK:
What a joke!

Your problem, like the rest of the zombified "I love America pass my papa and mama" crowd, is simple - excessive consumption of Western media propaganda!

Are you referring to that westicoted zionist rabbi _davidylan

gabe_logan:
see this aboki oh! wetin you dey yarn?

LOOK UNDER

simplycute:
i heard people from ugep in c/river still practice it

oloriooko:
Has anyone seen or heard the story from another source?

We must confirm the authenticity of the story before commenting please.

Coz the suspect is a pastor you need authenticity. If it were the other way round blah blah blah , wil never end.

anonimi:
I still dey wait oh.

Wait untill he bang ur abuna

Even if we had it should be in the Southern part [sub][/sub] of the country

grafikdon:
I don't find his 'brother' tale convincing. From his posts that guy seems the type who'd go any length to score his cheap points. MC USMAN, I hope my deductions are wrong (very unlikely) if not, whatever you're wishing on your brother will fall upon you hundredfold.

But you found the poster tale convincing enought.

@ All

The guy is trying to cement is postion following Makelele departuture. He knows just like all of us knew that the current dream team is a dream team in a pipe line.

On average there are less immigrant in other African Countries than in Nigeria. For those that have travelled to other African Countries will known what i mean. For instance, for every ten people you see in Monrovia 2 are from Guinea, 1 from Mali 2-3 from Nigeria / Ghana.

The Nigeria economy is chocked off to the extend immigrant find it less condusive to stay.

Most immigrants engage in petty - petty jobs the local find unprofitable. Can you mentioned any job that a Nigeria can not do.

Liberia as a practical example:

90% of Shoe shinners (clobblers) are from Guinea
70% of Okada riders are from Guinea
60% of electrical / spare parts shops are operated by Nigerians (Igbo's)
50% of mechanics are from either Ivorycoast or Ghana
20% of taxi oparators are Nigerians (Yoruba)
60% Bureau de change / Gold shops are owned by Nigerias (Hausa)
100% of the big departmental stores in Monrovia are owned by Arabs/Indians. The Chinees are rapidly expanding thier influence.

luckyCO:
I prefer statemente I don't mean fun, am serious. that I will learn something from not like yours.

Then maybe he was forced to stay there

May be the flight back to earth was delayed

@poster
I am a full blown Hausa Man. Want technical advisve

Go 4 it you got notting to loose.[/color]
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WARNING:
This post is for Marry Kelly Only (david & Lady)

I bet you have not read the preface of your Kings jame Version. Marry Kelly i beg please what do you have to say about this.

May kelly:
Christ the Saviour of the whole world.

Mark Kelly you posted a bruce lee write up and dashed off to your thread. am comming after you with the same reply.


A saviour without an established link

May kelly:
Established a religion of Established a religion of
mercy even for fear and the sword.
one's worst enemies.

Established an eternal Established an earthly empire.
"spiritual" kingdom.

Mary Kelly See what graet Historians have to say about the greatest Moh'ammed & His Isl'am. Not your fake china man

My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most
influential persons may surprise some readers and may be
questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who
was supremely successful on both the religious and secularlevel.
Michael H. Hart

The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History,
New York: Hart Publishing Company Inc. 1978, p 33.[/color]


He was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without Pope's
pretensions, Caesar without the legions of Caesar: without a
standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without
a fixed revenue. If ever any man had the right to say that he
ruled by the right divine, it was Mohammad, for he had all the
power without its instruments and without its supports.
[b]- Bosworth Smith
Mohammad and Mohammadanism, London 1874, p 92.[/b][color=#990000]

It is not the propagation but the permanency of his religion that deserves our wonder; the same pure and perfect impression which he engraved at Mecca and Madina is preserved, after the revolutions of twelve centuries by the Indian, the African and the Turkish proselytes of the Koran, The Mahometans have uniformly withstood the temptation of reducing the object of their faith and devotion to a level with the senses and imagination of man. I believe in One God and Mahomet is the Apostle of God' is the simple and invariable profession of Islam. The intellectual image of the Deity has never been degraded by any visible idol; the honors of the
prophet have never transgressed the measure of human virtue; and his living precepts have restrained the gratitude of his disciples within the bounds of reason and
religion.

Edward Gibbon and Simon Ocklay
History of the Saracen Empire, London 1870, p 54.[color=#990000][/color]

May kelly:
No scripture predicted his coming.
his coming, His life, death,
and raising again.
Isaiah 53:1-12

A fulfilment of another prophecy in Muhammad (pbuh).  ", He came from mount Paran (that is in Arabia), and he came with ten thousand saints, " Deuteronomy 33:2.

Truth, the Comforter," who was to guide mankind into all Truth (of the Gospel of St. John, chapter 16).1


The diocese, the mission of Jesus (pbuh), or "the works which God had given him to accomplish," was limited to the Lost sheep of  the House of Israel (Matthew 15:24), whereas the mission of Muhammad (pbuh) was universal.  He had been told -

And we have sent thee not (O Muhammad), but as a Mercy unto (all) the worlds. Holy Quran 21:107

May kelly:
1,500,000,000 claim to be 800,000,000 claim to be
his followers. his followers.

Christianity had a 600-year start on Islam.  Numerically the Christians claim to outnumber the followers of any other faith.

Bear it in mind that THERE ARE MORE PROFESSING CHRISTIANS IN THE WORLD THAN PROFESSING MUSLIMS, BUT THERE ARE MORE PRACTISING MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD THAN PRACTISING CHRISTIANS
when filling their census forms, a lot of people tick off the term Christian under "Religion." It is not necessarily that they believe in the dogmas of Christianity.  They could actually be atheists or bush-Baptists.

May kelly:
About 5000 Greek and Four different Qu'ran
and Aramaic manuscripts traditions existed and instead
of the New Testament exist of the variations preserved for
in whole or in part. The future comparison, all but one
best and most important of was destroyed. The Hijazi
these date back to about tradition, the Kufan tradition,
A.D. 350. the Basran tradition, and the
Comparison of Syrian tradition from Ubayy
these show extreme care ibn Ka'b, one of the scribes of
given by scribes that they Muhammad. Uthman was
not be corrupted and the commissioned to destroy all but
original teachings faith- his edition.
fully preserved.

These quotes are from different translations of the Holy Quran. There are no separate  "Versions" of the Holy Quran.  For "What is a Version,".

Take a look at your KJV the processes, re - re  re re re reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee , reeeeeeee

May kelly:
Born of a virgin, Mary Born of Ammiah
No earthly Father, Abd Allah was his father
According to Bible and
Quran.

Born about 4 B.C. in Born A.D. 570 in Mecca
Bethlehem, Israel

Raised by Mary, his Raised by his mother,
mother and Joseph, his Hailima the nurse, then
adopted father. his uncle and grandfather.

Labored as a local Started as a shepherd then
carpenter in city of became a camel caravan
Nazareth, Israel. leader to Syria.

Spoke in Hebrew, Spoke only Arabic.
Aramaic and probably
Greek.

No comprehensive account of the life of Jesus was given in Bible. The life that Jesus lived on earth was only 33 years, often divided into two periods: his "private" life (about 30 years, 18 of which there is no record for in the Bible) and his "public" life. Of the four Gospel writers, God "inspired" only two of them to record the genealogy of His "son You will also easily observe that the lists are grossly contradictory.

World's oldest Bible goes online


While the Codex contains all of the New Testament, it also includes part of the Old Testament and originally contained the entire text of the Christian Bible. The manuscript also includes the Apocrypha, 14 disputed books of the Old Testament that are usually omitted from the Protestant Bib[/b]le. It also includes two early Christian texts: the "[b]Epistle of Barnabas" and the "Shepherd of Hermas."

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/07/24/online.bible/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

A nice, calm and respectable lady went into the pharmacy, walked up to the pharmacist, looked straight into his eyes, and said, "I would like to buy some cyanide."

The pharmacist asked, "Why in the world do you need cyanide?"
The lady replied, "I need it to poison my husband."

The pharmacist's eyes got big and he exclaimed, "Lord have mercy! I can't give you cyanide to kill your husband. That's against the law! I'll lose my license! They'll throw both of us in jail! All kinds of bad things will happen. Absolutely not! You CANNOT have any cyanide!"

The lady reached into her purse and pulled out a picture of her husband in bed with the pharmacist's wife.

The pharmacist looked at the picture and replied, "Well now, that's different. You didn't tell me you had a Prescription."

One Last Confession

While a man was dying, his wife was maintaining a candlelight vigil by his side. She held his fragile hand, tears running down her face.

Her praying woke him from his slumber. He looked up, and his pale lips began to move slightly.

"My darling," he whispered.

"Hush, my love," she said. "Rest, don't talk."

He was insistent. "I have something that I must confess," he said in a tired voice.

"There isn't anything to confess," replied his weeping wife. "Everything's ok. Go to sleep."

The man blurted out: "No, no, I must die in peace. I, I slept with your sister, your best friend, her best friend, and your mother!"

"I know," whispered his wife, "that's why I poisoned you."

The End!!!!


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RichyBlacK:
A tried and tested hypocrite!