effort1: Tinubu is a criminal. Check the pictures below.
And to think the likes of mannabbgrills, seunmsg, Tinubuadvocate (who has removed his family from Nigeria because he knows Buhari/Tinubu have nothing to offer), freestuffng and other so-called youth, who are supposed to know better, are drumming support for a criminal.
That's a shame!
And mannabbgrills will be here saying he wants a better Nigeria. How can you want a better Nigeria when you are promoting criminality, shame and dishonour?!
Who are you deceiving?!
You are all spending your youthful ages to enthroned a criminal and you claim you want a better Nigeria? How can that be possible?! How do you manage to lie to yourselves and feel cool about it?
When has Tinubu ever been arrested, indicted, prosecuted, convicted or imprisoned for drug crimes?
nairavsdollars: I agree with Tinubu. Elrufai is an enemy..there was a time El Rufai led APC governors to chase him out of APC NEC meeting; saying Tinubu has no business there
Jubilation is deserved to support Adelek as incoming governor in Osun. Don't overdo it and polarize the people of Osun against one another. Don't arouse passions and envy.
Continue to celebrate his win without mocking and jeering the opposition, APC.
I have seen some posts online that went too far.
Winning the governorship is just a step. After taking oath, and when the cheers and jeers have died down and everyone went about their business, this man has to work with a house of assembly in which his party PDP has only 3 members. The remaining 23 members are APC.
We pray for Osun and wish incoming Governor a healthy and conducive partnership with state legislatures. Amen!
aribisala0: You said it is illegal in California to make video recordings without consent .Now I believe here we are talking about recordings in public places not a concealed camera in somebody's bedroom? Can you cite the legislation in California to buttress your claim?
On the topic of what constitutes public vs private space, which is what you first tasked me on, take the test.
aribisala0: Do you have a source for this claim ? A citation of the law? I simply do not believe you sir Video and audio recordings are entirely different things so do not lump them together. Here we are actually talking about video recording and I do not believe there is any such law anywhere in the US
I think I remember in an old thread saying I would stop responding to you in Nairaland. You do not apply critical thinking in your responses.
You are often easily distracted by technicalities and you wander off in a different branch altogether.
Whether I say video/audio or I say electronic recording devices or even use camera and microphone recording, to a reasonable person the communication is clear. But to you, it must be clarified if its wireless or wired device. You want to know if it was hand held or on tripod. Was it sony or panasonic.
The space inside a restaurant is NOT PRIVATE if the public have access to it.
Access not ownership is what makes a place public. A public order offence can be recorded against a person in any space to which the public have access Even your house is a public space if you are having a large party there with what the law calls "a substantial number of people" present Even if you invited them and they are there at your pleasure . As long as the party is going on it is a public space The corollary is also true a publicly owned place e.g. government building may not be accessible to the public and therefore not a public space
Wrong.
Take this test...
Your car is parked in the lot of the restaurant with other cars, it has been there for 7days. Is it private or public space? Can police consider it an abandoned vehicle and tow it?
Just because the court say Tinubu's money should be confiscated does not in any way portray guilt or crime.
This court record is from early 90s. In that time period and even till recently blacks that lived in exclusive neighborhoods with plush apartments, drove luxury cars or have plenty bank balances were profiled and automatically flagged for criminal activity.
If it were possible to open file on the IRS investigator, K Morris, and go through all his surveillance cases, arrest cases, prosecution cases and witnessing on stand, we will find them to be biased against blacks.
Blacks did not bring drugs into United States in 93. They turn away from the importers who are exclusively whites...and target blacks on street retailing and buying.
You cant accuse a person of drug trafficking because he has huge balance in account. That's insufficient probable cause.
Was drug found on Tinubu? Was he ever arrested distributing drugs?
His crime is that he had huge amount of money in bank. In a racially tilted justice system as the society was back in 1993, a black person could not legitimately earn or raise $50,000, much more half a million dollars...there had to be some illegal activity involved. They did not find any illegality to indict him but still confiscated the money anyway.
If that had been in the 60s and with that kind of money they racial justice system would have convicted him of bankrolling communism or black panther with goal to overthrow government.
If this seizure was about drug, where is the drug charge?
Originalsly: If you do not stop when the person says to .... are you violating any law? .. isn't that simply disruptive? .. and the most is for management to ask you to leave the premises?
2. No doubt... private laws interact.
3 . They guy is likely also.a.payi.
In states like California it is simply illegal to record video/audio without first warning the target that they are being recorded. This was put in place to restrict paparazzi madness. On the marketing side, it also protected consumers against debt collectors.
I dont know what state Aregbe was in but it doesn't matter, fhat recorder was wrong.
Will you exclude my name from your nonsense. I advocate Yoruba Nation, I could care less about Tinubu. Infact Tinubu would not want me to comment on his Emi L'okan ambition because I will do damage to it.
swaggerjack: He is too over confident because he is a strongman of the occult and controls Lagos treasury. He has already held a conference in France to share the national cake with Abacha's former henchmen and Atiku partner.
Atiku and Tinubu work for the same side. A win for either of them is a win for the real shareholders that own Nigeria.
Swagger, Dont change your narrative and start calling him cheater in 2023. It takes someone with power to cheat and win in 2023. You agree now that he is powerless.
JaskanFactor: Dont be confused african people. Its the Americans and the British that all the politicians in Nigeria are working for. So stop blaming Nigerian politicians, blame their employers at the British and American embassy where Nigeria is ruled from.
Dont go abroad, only to come back home refusing to pay police bribe, those oyinbo who run nigeria ensure its run like a zoo. So dont be confused when you go america and you seem to have rights, its the same people that run every country in the world, and they deicide who is treated like animal and who is treated like human being .
Nigerian politicians are not the authors of your suffering, they are taking orders from abroad, from people who dont look like you, and despise you.
Stop blaming Nigerian politicians they are not running the country they make no decision or policy, they are just actors. Nigeria is run from the European, American embassies , go and complain there.
But please dont go Oyinbo country to say you have rights, they are the same people ensuring Nigeria remains a zoo, they never gave Nigeria independence except on paper.
Stop getting confused about what your rights are on a planet that is run by Oyoinbo people that hate you to the core. When in nigeria pay your bribe, when in oyinbo country seek your rights, Its the same oyinbo that run all places.
People dont remember it used to be 1 naira to 2 pounds, now its nearly 1000 naira to one pound, thats how much Oyinbo like you. 1000 for them one for you.
When in the zoo pay your bribe, when in the land of those that keep your country a zoo, seek your rights.
This is why many africans that live abroad for long time get confused and get into trouble or shot by african police. They dont realise that its the same people giving them rights abroad that run africa like animal zoo. So that thier police abroad carry pepper spray while african police has AK47.
The incident happened in America ... shouldn't American definitions apply? Who is talking about public/private property? ... that's not the same as public space. A mall is private property.... the space is public because it is opened to the public. You can snap pictures or video of anyone in the mall without consent. A house is private property.... one can stay outside of the property and snap photos or video the house without consent.... but inside the property you can be restricted.
People sitting below are on private property.... but that is public space.
Practically you can take picture of anyone anywhere. In public space a consent is not needed.
The space inside of a restaurant is a private space and you need consent to record a guest in there. But if you start a recording without first obtaining consent and the target says "stop", if you don't you have violated them.
There are many privacy rights that overlap in America. Since this incident occurred in a restaurant I will use it to highlight the rights of a paying guest.
Picture it the same way you will use a license on a computer in a public library. They warn you not to copy or distribute without consent...but we all copy and distribute anyway, and nothing happens. Correct? How many times have you obtained permission from Microsoft before you share an excel file or a word document composed in a library? A licensing company can choose to prosecute for copying and distributing their material without consent, but they don't because it is not cost effective. That does not mean we have rights to do whatever we want because the computer is in a public library.
A restaurant can claim rights to proprietary ownerships like for instance, recipe. What this means is that they offer a cuisine for people that desire it in exchange for a price. That's what I meant by paying guest. If you are not there to sit down and enjoy the cuisine, what is your business inconveniencing those that are guests? What is that guy doing there? This is nuisance, trespass together.
It is important to know that Aregbe invited him, he turned the invitation down. At that point he had no business recording a guest. If he had accepted the invitation to sit he could use the argument that he was in there on invitation.
Aregbe can press charges and the restaurant can sue him.
Southernigbo: How will some just carry sexual smells up and down with out taking adequate bath.
For some of these people, it's only handkerchief they used to clean up and gbam they are in markets, banks and their religious places intermingling with people not caring about the sexual smell that they are carrying about.
I swear to God, I can't understand it. Many people are pigs. The sweat, the fluids...everything is just yucky and must be washed off and the body refreshed.
helinues: The Nigeria Independent National Electoral Commission ( INEC) got their act right in the just concluded Osun Gubernatorial election.
To the politicians who have been banking on rigging the election, you better think twice.
Our Electoral system is improving..
Meaning the choice of the masses can be heard through voting.
You are correct Sir!
INEC credibility in Osun is solid, and we saw same performance and outcome in Anambra. They have blocked many loop holes and retired election manipulators and riggers. No one can rig 2023. Whatever result is announced must be accepted as fair and accurate.
There is need for ballot education and the political process in Nigeria on Nairaland Politics Section.
This platform is a huge congregation point in election cycles and many people are still deficient in political literacy and how INEC and the Parties conduct election and voting exercise.
It has been told thousands of times that candidates name do not appear on ballot papers, yet we still see posts asking if people will vote Obi on ballot, or vote Atiku or Tinubu on ballot.
Such posts ought to be closed and referenced back to a Ballot Education flyer in Nairaland (we need such).
People vote for parties on ballot paper. The candidates are nothing more than contractors or partners in proxy. Obi's name will never appear on ballot, instead LP name and logo will be on ballot. Illiterates will enter polling booth and get confused because they can't find Obi on ballot, and then flip a coin, head or tail, and then vote opposition party.
Same for APC and PDP, Tinubu and Atiku will never be found on ballot. Infact the ballot does not know who they are.
The big fish for APC is general election. In Osun, APC control the house of assembly, so they have a lot of power to get things done their way. At the Presidency level however, loosing the seat is loss of power completely.
Their reaction in Osun is understandable. Everybody has jubilated that APC lost Osun "fairly"....no one has complained of rigging. It will be expected that if they win general election they should be seen as a fair player...and no one should have right to complain of rigging.
This is a political intrigue, nothing surprising. Even Buhari has sent congratulatory message. Tinubu has drafted a Congratulatory message for Adeleke but waiting on Oyetola to first concede before it is published.
Originalsly: Is the restaurant open to the public?
It is open to paying hosts, not to public.
Please do not confuse American definition of public with general use term of what public space is.
In America if you are on the sidewalk you are on public property, if you step one foot onto the grass in front of a private property you are on private grounds.
Restaurant is open to public but the space within is private. So is a private hospital, so is bank or mall.
Originalsly: Bro.... I've been taking photos and shooting videos of private citizens in public ...... and posting them online.... all without permission/ consent ... all legal. Be clear.... something ungodly... unreasonable... in poor taste... classless.... immoral .....in poor taste ... disrespectful.... doesn't make it illegal. That wasn't nice what he did ... but it wasn't illegal.
You said in PUBLIC. Thats the difference, Aregbe was not in public...he was in private space.
That recorder is wrong in every way. Freedom in America is not absolute.
Aregbe: Can I help you? Recorder: Are you Aregbesola?
Aregbe: How can I help you? Recorder: You look like His Excellency Aregbesola in Nigeria
Aregbe: Who are you? Recorder: I am a Nigerian
Aregbe: Ok, please sit down *gestured for recorder to sit next to him* Recorder: Uhhm...no, I actually can't sit.
Aregbe: *tried to reach and turn recording off* Recorder: Sir, you can't touch my phone. This is America, I can do whatever I want, you can't touch my phone. You can't do anything to me, this is not Nigeria, this is America.
Aregbe: Ok, stop recording me. Recorder: This is America, I can do what I want.
Kiloooodee! Kilooodeee!! Haba....
Aregbe is not on public street, he is a host in a private restaurant. Laws of privacy extends to the space in that restaurant. By recording him in that restaurant over meal is no different than recording him withdrawing cash in a bank lobby, or in a medical facility receiving injection. Clear violations of law of privacy rights. The recorder overstepped the American freedom rights of privacy. While claiming freedom to do anything you want that freedom stops when you impinge on the freedom of others....as in the case of Aregbe, freedom to enjoy his meal in private.
Aregbe should teach lesson to this freak and press charges against him in America so lawyers there can teach him how to properly exercise his freedom, both in public and in private spaces.
I find it laughably stupid of deranged Ipob Bingos always screaming "Yoruba Muslims" on this forum. If only they realize that Yorùbá people are ONE and not swayed by the kind of stupid sentiments that they are using to destroy their region Osun is probably a Muslim majority state, and the Local Govts that voted Adeleke are also Muslim dominated parts, but we don't consider that rubbish amongst ourselves in Yorùbá land
For me, as a Christian Yoruba, I am an Omoluabi first and foremost, which means discrimination on petty sentiments, is not our thing.
Congrats to Senator Ademola Adeleke
They are freaks. I am muslim and don't care if governors in SW and their deputies are all christians. They are my family still and will not maltreat me.