₦airaland Forum

Ooh, lets know when its roasted. I love roasted chicken.

Oshigun:
You're simply shifting the goal post to suit your flawed argument. You cannot be clever by half with me. Below is your post reproduced for all to see where you make it crystal clear citizens should clean their environment. I made it clear it is not the duty of citizens to clean their environment in major Cities and States of the world with public administration in place such as Lagos. It the the duty of the Government. Citizens can help by not littering and acting irresponsibly to add to the waste to be cleaned by Government agencies formed and deployed to do so.


What you mean below is not vague and not at all statements you can hide behind the banner of "filth". You say citizens should "clean their own surrounding". They should not. Government must do that as this is what people pay taxes for. Simple as that and you don't have to craft facetious arguments to support your partisanship towards Ambode.

Lagosians merely have the duty of helping to keep their surrounding clean by refraining from irresponsible actions that produces more waste than can be cleaned efficiently by the Government.

I dont write spontaneously, my ideas are well thought out before I post.

Environment, community, sorrounding...are all synonymous words to describe space in relative proximity.

Im going to ask you same question i posted in my last comment.

When Fashola visited Ladipo Market, what did he tell them to do...and why was he there?

Why did he not tell state agent, LAWMA, to clean that environment?

The same reason he told the traders to "CLEAN THEIR FILTH"....im saying here it is not govt job to clean filth. People are responsible for their own cleaning of their environment, community and sorrounding.

Govt removes waste.....not clean filth.

Dude, im doubting your understanding....i believe you hold waste and filth to be same thing. Is that so?

jumobi1:
Wrong again. Where do you live? In New York for example, the government cleans the filth in public spaces. The government is responsible for the upkeep of public spaces, whether waste or filth.

Let me ask you a question because looks like people are shifting goal posts here.

First, did you follow the thread from beginning?

Second, we talked about road maintenance and why citizens should harrass contractors, not governors.

We then jumped into filth. Can you say to the world the reason Fashola was in Ladipo Market....was it about waste, or about filth?


Lets keep focus at home and stop bringing japan and china into this.

Afamed:
It's actually 99%

Oshigun:
I'd really like to know this also because he is writing a load of twaddle here while insulting others with name-calling. He normally makes sense and I can only imagine a compromised sense of reasoning on this occasion due to some personal or ideological devotion to Ambode. Simple fact someone of MetaPhysical intelligence should appreciate that no major city of the world, with far smaller population and a more organised people, leaves cleaning of public place to the "community' as he ridiculously claims. Is it London, New York, Paris, Milan, Berlin, Mumbai, Cape Town, Accra, Munich? Which one exactly?

I own a UK property and the local council is responsible for cleaning roads, public space, Parks, rail stations, public toilets et al and taking away my rubbish while I am personally responsible for space around my property i.e driveway and Garden.

The statement below is simply incredible and an indication we stand logic on its head in Nigeria merely because responsible leaders are forced to take unusual measures to combat corruption and lack of funds for what should be government's role and duties. Environmental day, for example, where the public come out to clean in Lagos, is not the norm in the world. It is the exception because the massive population of 20 million in the smallest State in Nigeria, i.e cash-strapped Lagos, has created abnormally huge challenges that requires innovative solutions and approach. For example, there is no regular environmental day in London and never has been for my decades-long association with the City.

No one should make the statement below as if it is a fact when similar is not the case for any major city of the world where people pay their taxes and expect Government effort to match challenges the States/Cities face such as keeping public space clean and pollution-free. When it was adjudged that the air in central London was highly polluted and threatening the health of Londoners, the office of the Mayor introduced the ULEZ charge ( the ultra low emission zone charge) of £12.50 per day for only diesel vehicle that enter the zone in central London. This is a massive disincentive for diesel vehicle to enter the zone and this then helps to keep air pollution down. Government did not put the onus on citizen to suddenly make the problem go away and keep London air cleaner !!!!!

Government of modern cities keep public space clean under normal circumstances not citizens even as citizens can help from adding to the problem by refraining from acts such as littering and public defecation. Unless of course MetaPhysical is talking of the most rural of Villages then I don't see any sense in his statement below let alone be calling others "Pigs" in relation to his factually wrong argument.

In those places you mentioned, people do not throw thrash all over. We are not talking about waste....we are talking about FILTH! The two are not the same.

Govt is responsible for removing waste, people are responsible for cleaning their filth. Please rewind and follow the thread. The point made was on filth, not waste.

NigeriaIsDoomed:
You are right bro. Lagos can be put in other but it requires a political will from the actors.
Sometimes, I wonder why those molue and danfo buses are still plying Lagos road cus they constitute an eyesore. Does it mean that the actors cannot phase them out and introduce something better?
Many things are wrong in this country.

Well, don't we already call Buhari a dictator? It's because of his high-handedness. People do not want to be bothered to demonstrate a disciplined lifestyle outwardly. When govt enforces discipline then people react by crying foul. Buhari does not know how to govern, he knows how to rule. He is lucky and smart, he sorrounded himself with people who are veterans and smarties of governance....they prop him up.

For political expediency, Governors and LG Chairmen do not rule with high-handedness, typically they run a middle course and when they feel their pressure is producing an unfavourable public outcry they lean back and relax. They want to be popular so when they meet the people again in future for support they will not be abandoned for opponent. Governance is tough.

Particularly in Lagos, it is not just the Governor that looses if his policy pushes the people away....the party also looses. Hence, the party rules Lagos and they put a proxy in Governor seat to execute their policies as a priority....but they also recognize the need of the individual to be a leader in his own right, so they accomodate the Governors plans for growth. In the end, a harmony between the two interests is what moves Lagos forward.

In the case of Ambode, the party recognized and acknowledged his competency as a Governor and a well rounded performer. He was implementing policies out of order. For instance, the Epe development was not due for implementation but he did it. He was not listening to them. They even admitted that their Governor was not reachable, he does not respond to them. This is reason for replacing him. When you vote Governor the party name and symbol is on ballot, not name of the candidate. They wanted him out long ago but could not get him out, they did not have the power to do so. They waited for primary to defeat him, the party owns the primary and the election. They do not deny his abilities and capabilities, they just do not want a Governor that would go against the establishment. APC in Lagos is an establishment, it is different than APC in other states. APC in Lagos is fully enmeshed in Govt bureaucracy. PDP will find it difficult to Govern Lagos even if they won the race for Governor. Let me put it this way...Lagos State Secretariat in Alausa is APC Secretariat, period!

Ambode is still a card-carrying member of APC. He is eligible to contest on that platform if he wants.

immhotep:
Nzeogwu is no longer Igbo?
What happened

Cc lzaa gmbuharii

Some people call him Kaduna man...some call him Anioma man....some call him Iboman. Whatever he is....not a Yorubaman!

Focus on 20 pounds story.

http://infomediang.com/2019/10/26/ismaila-mustapha-mompha-net-worth/

This is good infomedia on Mompha himself.

djdutch:
Buratai likely has his own. To make the authorities turn a blind eye to his million dollar Dubai properties

You are a wickedt guy, ah swear!

immhotep:
Yet today an Igbo man is CBN governor.

Cc lzaa sarrki gmbuharii

I thought he was Delta man, same kins with Nzeogwu dem. Abi Nzeogwu na Ibo?

So this guy said these are his prayer objects, they were locked in a fire-proof safe. You dont just rip people off for 33billion naira. These objects, whatever they are, is the tool they command to bring targets and success. Whatever is in these objects Buratai should take interest since we are now in spiritual war with bokoharam. Buratai must use it to bring Shekau into surrender. If its good for raking in 33billion its more than likely good to remote control terrorists to surrender.

In fact, Buhari should borrow it to remote control Kanu to return to Nigeria.
Otumokpo in a fire-proof safe...mttccccheew, this is the real thing!

Kaabiesi o!
Congrats to the Throne of Oduduwa!!

NGpatriot:
This is nothing but semantics, it makes no difference who is inspecting or not inspecting, as long as an eye is kept on taxpayers funded projects. Who cares really?

Leaving the society to their own cleaning and environmental devices is just irresponsible and total abdication of duty because people won't clean, people will litter, people will dump refuse and hazardous materials everywhere.

This is why governments create environmental agencies like EPA in the US and LASEPA in Lagos to regulate and enforce environmental laws.

Go and litter in Texas, the government will take $500 or up to $2,500 from you or send you to jail.

It's ok to purvey your own personal opinion, but your opinion is not rooted in reality and Public Administration 101, it's like saying that we should not have a police force to curtail crime, arrest criminals or enforce laws because people know not to commit crime when in fact knowing the difference between right and wrong is irrelevant because people still commit crime regardless.

Again, a blunder from you! It matters a great deal. I will repeat myself....citizens owe it to themselves to have a clean community. A governor or commissioner or LG chairman should never be chasing after people to clean their own sorrounding.

Bro, where are you from? Please share what state your origin is. I feel like Im talking to a pig. Why does governor have to tell you to clean your sorrounding?

kayusely70:
Very cheap blackmail. The man is an slowpoke. He is from Ondo State. Aregbesola is now a minister while Osinowo is now a senator ( Lagos East).

Stop reading meaning into that article. Its fake

Biafran currency were worth less than tissue paper to clean yansh. They had zero value in market. Central Bank of Nigeria took mercy and gave each person 20pounds, whether they brought 1 biafran pound or 1million biafran pound.....each had zero value anyway, so just donate 20 pound to each Biafran and get it over with.

In reality, Biafrans should have been the ones paying Central Bank reparation. Instead CB gave them gift. Amazing world!!

Ahh, Biafran notes. Interesting topic.

Although Biafra had made a concerted effort to produce the second series of higher quality bank notes, it would appear that their circulation was limited. By the time the notes were introduced in 1969, the country controlled by the Biafran forces had been reduced to a circular area approximately 85 miles across (roughly 5,000 square miles) and all consumables had long been sold. When a foreign journalist, Michael Mok of ‘Life’ magazine, asked a nun working with the Biafrans whether he could make a cash donation to help the starving children, he was told that cash would be useless, as there was nothing left to buy in Biafra. This may have been one of the reasons why so many Biafran notes remained in Europe undelivered – they were a cargo that could bring little practical purpose.

At the end of the civil war there was a critical shortage of the new Nigerian currency, which retarded efforts to replace the currency in circulation in the east. The Central Bank began recalling the Biafran currency and the old Nigerian currency in the war-torn region but, because of the shortage of new Nigerian notes, only receipts were issued to those who surrendered the notes; although during this period of recall it was unclear what rate of exchange would be made for the Biafran notes. Rumours as to what value the Central Bank of Nigeria would place on the Biafran notes became widespread, with many believing one rumour that twenty Biafran pounds would be given the value of one Nigerian pound.

Many impatient people surrendered their Biafran notes to speculators who were purchasing them at fifty Biafran pounds to one Nigerian pound. Ultimately the speculators got ‘burnt’, as the Central bank decided that there would be no exchange of Biafran currency for Nigerian currency, deciding instead to pay a flat rate of twenty Nigerian pounds to each depositor of Biafran or old Nigerian currency with the Central Bank.

It is not known what happened to the Biafran currency that was surrendered, but it was almost certainly destroyed. In addition to the notes that circulated in Biafra, and those which were dumped into the sea (first series), there were also thousands of undelivered notes that survived the war. These undelivered notes were sold into the collector market once they became unusable, and were sold in such numbers that the market became flooded. The sale of the notes had begun in September 1968 when agents of the Biafran government in Geneva offered sets of the second series of Biafran bank notes for sale to ‘collectors and others’ at the price of £20 10s (sterling) per set. It is not known whether the sets were sold at the behest of the Biafrans, or by their agents in an effort to recoup unpaid costs. As the situation in Biafra deteriorated it would appear that the sale of notes escalated and it is probable that some of the larger dealers of coins and bank notes offered to take large amounts of the notes.

chriskosherbal:
well I may not have the time to write long epistle but I beg to differ with the above, if what is going on at Ibeju lekki is anything to go by I will say this man is a visionary leader and would have been (still) one of the best Governors Lagos will ever produce.

Be that as it may, Him not be given the second term is not connected to poor performance but to other factors which I think are the activities that goes off camera in politics in Nigeria .


Eko oni baje...

God bless Nigeria.

Dont mind these bad belle people jare! Even those who hold the helms of Lagos politics in their hands confessed that Ambode was not removed for performance but that he is distant and they are unable to reach Governor. I don't know how his inaccessibility now has turned to bashing about performance.

ZZ22:
Get a life boy and limit your fear of Igbos. This is midnight but the thought of Igbos has kept sleep away from your eyes. Just limit that fear as Igbos don't really know you exist

Kwenu! Kwenu!!

80 Ibos deported from Malaysia. Did you get news

NGpatriot:
It's the government's job to regulate, make and enforce environmental laws. Only negligent, incompetent and irresponsible governments sit around while people destroy the environment because of lazinness, greed, and sabotage.

Ambode was naturally incompetent, ill-equipped and out of focus, Fashola's exit exposed his incompetens and lack of preparedness which led to a total breakdown of physical and environmental infrastructure.

The roads collapsed and left to rot, refuse pilled up all over the state, total abandonment of ongoing projects from waste management to schools, housing estate, waterworks, hospitals, metro rail, 4th mainland and so on.

There's a reason why Lagossians didn't shed tears or raise a finger to save his lazy ass..

You have a warped understanding of a Governor's role. This is possible because these Governors fail to stay within boundary of their roles and always step-over into roles reserved for Commissioners and Council Chairmen. This ego-trip, common amongst Governors, have turned out to inform the public wrongly on the expectations of Government and its Chief Executive.

No Governor should be executing road inspection and commissioning. Never, ever! We are grossly in a retrograde society.

Let me coach you a little my brother...
Under military administrations, Governors were usually in rank of Lt. Colonels. In military formations, Lt. Colonel is Commander of a Batallion. A batallion is less than the population of a city. In military structure he is a task master. In other words, a field officer.

The civilian administrations we have had since 1999 are still observing Military Governor traditions of acting as Field Officers. A civilian Governor is executive, the equivalent of a General in Army. Generals command multiple batallions and are political administrators, not field officers like Lt. Colonels. Our civilian Governors need to transition away from being Field Officers and become true EXECUTIVES. Jobs such as inspecting roads and making sure roads are done belong to Commissioners, LG Chairmen.

You have the liberty to misunderstand the role of an Executive Governor because you lack understanding in the root of the issue or how and why our Governors became project managers....like Fashola for instance visiting Ladipo Market to force them to clean the environment they are in and make money in. Very stewpid move on the Governors part. Were there no space in Jails around Lagos?

OP,
abeg change this topic to read " Terrorist Pictured infront of White House"

NGpatriot:
Ambode is dumb, but not stupid enough to write this rubbish or associate himself with the writers, but they are pf course, ipob bloggers..

I am dealing with some of them already. They want Ambode to attack Tinubu and reveal what he knows so they can derail Tinubu's 2023 ambition for an Ibo opportunity. Well, since Ambode is not talking....they want to talk for him and provoke his opponents...thus start a Tinubu-Ambode war.

Ibo agenda is a dumb agenda. We are here to shut it down!

unbitchable:
But we witnessed a cleaner Lagos under Fashola with a working model but a dirtier Lagos under Ambode.

Lagos was not cleaner under Fashola. Was Fashola not the one that shut down Ladipo Market? Why does a Governor need to take such action to get a community in his State clean? Cleaniliness is the responsibility of individual communities, not the role of a Governor to start going to a community and threatening them before they would clean their own environment. Ambode does not owe you a clean environment, you owe yourself a clean environment. Ambode owes you a mandate to punish those who violate the Keep Lagos Clean Edict. If he did, you would still crucify him, even worse.

See Larubawa rushing my President.
They love him!

God Bless you Baba!

unbitchable:
And Lagos got ridiculously dirty after he abandoned Fashola's model. How do you explain that.

Thats not true!

There is a video on internet done about filth in Lagos. It was done prior to Ambode. Lagos has more demand on it than it can manage in sanitation, road safety, fire safety, health and wellness, community planning. This is the truth.

It is possible to keep Lagos spotless and well sanitized. Many people will go to jail and serve as lessons for other violators before we can get to that point. Lagos State has sanitation law that dates back to 1940s, and they are still very valid. If govt executes and enforces them the jails will fill up in one day of operation alone. Many houses and shops will also stand to be condemned and demolished. Govt can do that. Can citizens accept that outcome?

It is probably a good thing that Saraki never went into practice, even though he qualified as a Medical Doctor. Given his antics in politics and his role as mentor and character model to a class of Kwarans with crude and uncivil approach to society, it would not be far fetched to project a similar outcome in the medical field for staffs that undergo training and mentorship as his protege....a deadly crew that subtract value from quality of life for patients under their care.

I will say this to all people in Lagos that expect Governor to fix roads. Infrastructures in Lagos is awarded to contractors. It is not Governor that fix your roads, it is contractors that fix your roads. These contractors post their company name and sign on a board when they start work. Take a picture of it. When your road start to go bad these are the people you should responsible. If they collected 10million for a road but spend 1million and the road does not last, it is not the Governor's responsibility. The contractor is liable. So come online, and instead of bashing Governor, start posting the contractor name and bash them. In fact, ask for contractors that do bad job to be blacklisted from Government contract. This is how you improve your community and its roads, if you are serious!

festacman:
Wild statement by a faceless organization weigh nothing really.

The sorry state of Lagos state environment today including deteriorating road infrastructure are clear evidence that removing Gov. Ambode may not have been a bad decision.

Moreover, I am sure that Ambode would have been more than willing and ready to meet conditions worse than the ones listed to remain the governor. In any case, the jury is still out on how he used the resources of the state.

Many better governorship aspirants were overlooked in 2015 for him to become the governor. Having that 'jagabanic' favour, he cannot be classified as a pure breed democrat. His records of perfomance do not portray him as a saint either.

Shut up and stop repeating rumour mill you picked up on internet.
Lagos roads are always in need of maintenance. If you repair a road completely today by next morning, 24hrs after, it is already showing sign of degradation. Why? The number of roads that ply Lagos roads in a day, roads in some States in Nigeria do not get that much traffic in a year. The material we use for road that support 1 million traffic a day is the same we have used back when traffic was only 20,000 a day, and even back then they needed continous maintenance. So it;'s like demand on the road has surged but we kept using the same material to surface the road. We need a change in material and better traffic routing and management.

Dont let me hear you repeat that nonsense about a Governor in Lagos doing bad job about roads. No Governor of Lagos, beside General Mobolaji Johnson, has ever or will ever contain bad road problem adequately. Never....unless we come up with a different design and strategy for road usage. Road condition should be excluded from a Governor's performance in Lagos.

Computer Village is not just Ibo. There are Yoruba sections as well.

The Yoruba section is under protection of Iyaloja of Lagos. The Ibo section set up their own independent autjority and refused to be under Iyaloja authority.

When this kind of issue comes up, it is often resolved with political diplomacy and behind the scenes.

I will advise the Ibos in computer village to approach Iyaloja and see if she can assist them.

Internet cannot solve your everyday wailing and problems across Nigeria.

Today its Benue, tomorrow its PortHarcourt, day after that its Kano, then Jos, Akure, Yenogoa, Ibadan,....now its Lagos.

Una get serious problem!

NaijaCelebrity:
80 Nigerians Deported By Indonesian Government For Spraying Money During Pastor Odumeje’s

Prophet Chukwuemeka Odumeje’s recent visit to Indonesia, is being scrutinised by the Indonesian government as over alleged “display of wealth at the event”. The church program was reportedly organized by some Nigerians living in Jakarta and it allegedly began with spraying of money which is said to be part of the Anambra-based Pastor’s style of ministration.

The display of wealth has led to the arrest of Nigerians who are reportedly undocumented migrants without work permit and valid visa. According to reports, over 80 Nigerians have been deported already with more to come, as Landlords in the country have been asked to report undocumented Nigerians living in their property or lose it all to the Indonesian government.

It was learnt that the Indonesian government are wondering how undocumented migrants without valids visas or work permit came about such amount of money."


Source: https://ngg.ng/2019/10/28/80-nigerians-deported-for-spraying-money-on-pastor-odumeje-in-indonesia/
Lalasticlala OAM4J, Mynd44

Igbo kwenu!! Kwenu!! Kwenu!!!

80 Ibo deportees about to storm Lagos speaking Malaysian phonetics mixed with Ibo accent.

[quote author=meccuno post=83540758][/quote]Its making sense now. I can connect that Ife ritual back to when Ooni said Ibos were in Ife and prospered. You traded your prosperity (head) to Yoruba.

Bring more pics for interpretation.

meccuno:
save this one too.

I have that already. Heres the caption...

Symbolic -
Even in weakness, Yoruba bows to no one!

Awo coming out of political imprisonment with his head held high with pride!