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educhigo:
does it mean that south west have forgotten sowore in detention,everyone just keep silent as if nothing happen, Fear of dss and nigerian police force,make them denounce there agitation, .no more revolution again, lets be sincere who is the coward now,ipob,or afonjas.?

Because we don't stubbornly and recklessly repeat same thing we know will bring same result. When Afonja see a danger, unlike ipob that will collude with it, we avert it and come up with a new strategy to demolish the obstacle.

Congrats bro!

This is the only sport Nigeria wins consistently, unfortunately it doesn't have huge fans. For over ten years running Nigeria dominated Africa in Table Tennis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Table_Tennis_Championships


World Table Tennis Tour and Championship Database
https://web.archive.org/web/20120514115508/http://www.ittf.com/ittf_stats/stats_by_event.htm

On this issue, thumbs down to Lagos State Govt.

The indecent act happened on Lekki-Ikoyi Link Bridge (Lagos State Jurisdiction), why is Lagos State Government not enforcing its law? Wetin concern Federal Government in this case?

Again, Ibos continue to run foul of the law in every dimension possible. In as much you fail to call your people to order voluntarily, others will call them to order for you...and in ways that you will find painful and insulting.

Success1020:
How many messages will they send? Afonjas have been sending messages since God knows when.

Its why we tell people like you our long silence should be appreciated, dont wake us up....otherwise everybody will loose sleep.

In immunization you use culture from the virus or agent you want protection from.

Abi I lie?

Nat777:
You are right that's human adaptive abilities are remarkable. However, i still think putting children in pepper is a bit excessive. What logic could you possibly use to defend this rite?

Same wisdom used in child immunizations. But because this is pepper seller and black, we cant respect it. If oyibo man come now with syringe and pepper agent to immunize the baby you will praise it.

If the mother sells pepper and she has the baby with her all the time occassions will arise when she needs to handle the baby. Without such rituals, believed to give immunity, touching the baby's skin with peppery hands in moments of emergency can burn the skin and cause permanent scar to such tender and soft skin, in addition to possible allergic reaction.

So this is wise to immune the baby like that.

I dont like to see women in hardship at all. It gives me grief to hear or see women and their babies suffer hardship. I dont care what tribe.

It says a lot also about men. Men have failed these women. They are not supposed to be in this predicament at all if Men would respond and do what they need to do to hold society together.

This is sad.

Hammer,
I am impressed with your collection but you left out naptu. Naptu alone is worth more than half the people on that list.

Naptu by himself is 50% of Nairaland.


Now, the issue is you want to discredit what Fatso said in his video. Understood!

hammerVJ:
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Chei!
Come see community gathering. The who is who of nairaland.

I saved this writing from Ukandi. Very important record for politics in South.

Hhmmmm...listen to this

From all the constitutional conferences, till later days, we(Ndigbo) had been in alliance with the north. And the northerners have been comfortable with us.

....but on Jan 15th 1966, Ibo stabbed Northerners in the back and betrayed that close-knit friendship.

Balewa - assassinated by Ibo
Maimalari - assassinated by Ibo
Bello - assassinated by Ibo

The Ibo allies forcefully removed their Northern allies from power and at gun point sacked a Northern succession headed by Dipcharima. They installed an Iboman and called him Supreme.

The obituary is wrong.

Its not a tragic death caused by men of underworld but rather..... a "callous murder carried out by members of macban called fulani herdsmen".

When engaged in debate with Edos on origin of their civilization I ask them a simple question; detail the tradition of textile and genesis of fabric styles in Edoland. I ask them this question because it is one aspect of civilization which the European writers never recorded for them. So I want them to tell history of clothing and styling in their native land. Everytime I ask this they abandon the thread.

Cloth weaving, dyeing and its styling remains a vital exchange and part and parcel of civilizations in Africa today as it was and had ever been in our antiquity and ancestral past. Imperial Courts had guilds specialized in cloth weaving, in embroidery, in dyeing and they exported textiles as a means of exchange in commerce, communication and building alliance. Why do we not see Bini footprint represented in this very important and significant cultural value? It's because the natives were uncivilized and roamed the forest in nud.ity. Thank God to Ife who civilized their land and natives and gave them textiles introduced through the dynasties of Ogiso and Oba.


According to Colleen E. Kriger, author of Cloth in West African history, "Clothe is a paradox raw material for the reconstruction of history. When used as clothing, its most common manifestation, cloth is highly visible, often revealing cultural values and social strata as well as aesthetic preferences. It is also highly mobile, leaving a record of travel, trade and gift contacts. These factors make it a rich source of historical information".

If you notice from top first paragraph said "Dutch visitor, Olfert Dapper".

That copy and paste is from a Edo website.

Here is authentic source about Dapper.

TAO11:
Honestly, I am not very clear about what you mean, but I assume that you have some specific contentions with respect to my evidence-backed submission.

But if you really want to have an intellectual exchange, then begin by engaging the incontrovertible evidence I have adduced.

Cheers!

I love the way you highlight and outline points for delivery.

It is not possible for Benin to independ e ntly construct their history from beginning till now and not reference a single article or journal written by Europeans. What they know, and proclaim, of themself is what European explorers (many who have never even stepped feet in Bini) wrote about Bini and is all flowery and solicitous.

Olfert Dapper's journals about Bini became source reference for many writers for many centuries afterward, and even uptil today his journal entries and publications are still used when writing about Bini....but the man does not even know where Bini is located. He never visited it or met any native from there. He collected stories from sailors who heard it through other sailors who heard of Bini while at sea.

This type of nonsense below and many such illustrations is what Edos piece together and proclaim as their history. Independently they cannot articulate their origin, or that of Ogiso Chiefs dispatched to them from Ife or even their foreign Oba.

RIP Biliki!

NuclearWinter:
The reoccurring excuse the Yorubas have been using to defend the genocide on the Igbo nation during the harrowing years of 1966 to 1970 is anchored on the rhetoric adopted by Awolowo to defend his "Hunger Policy" which led to over 3 million dead non-combatants on the Biafran side. Awo will state that;" in war all is fair".


Awolowo will further state that "in war you don't feed your enemies". For clarification, Biafra did not declare war on Nigeria and Nigerians rather it was the reverse. It was the Federal Govt of Nigeria that saw Biafran secession from the British colonial contraption as an act of war. The coup of Jan 15, which has been erroneously tagged as an Igbo Coup was more than enough reason for Nijeriyans to wage their pent up anger and jealousy on Biafrans living within their midst thus the pogroms that raged across northern Nigerian.

Not satisfied with the blood lust, the Nigerian govt will declare war on the newly declared state of Biafra (fleeing the pogroms) to continue the genocidal agenda under the fog of war.

It is important to note that the human cost of the brutal 3 yr un-civil war to reunite Biafra with Nigeria came with a hefty human cost which is yet to be surpassed since even for African conflict standards. The wars in Liberia, Sierra Leone and the genocide in both Rwanda and Burundi plus the conflicts in the Congo combined have yet to meet up with the body bag count of the Nigerian civil war - a whooping 3 million dead!

Coming back to Awolowo's war rhetoric we see it being panned out today by the same Yorubas who use it as justification as both an avenging response to the coup of Jan 15 and as a quick step towards ending the war. In retrospect, Awo's hunger policy equates to Truman dropping the H-Bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

All is not fair in war

The Geneva convention - a guideline on how regular conventional warfare should be conducted had already been in existence since after the great second World War. Obasanjo recently in Abuja, attested to the fact that as a commanding officer of Federal forces he carried in his breast pocket a copy of the Geneva convention. The origins of the Geneva convention were necessitated after the harrowing sufferings and killings that civilians were subjected to at the hands of the Axis forces of Germany and Japan as they swept across Europe and Asia (respectively).

The Nuremberg Trials and that held to convict Japanese war criminals was a response by the allied forces to make a declaration that "All is not fair in war".

It was Winston Churchill that first gave us the word Genocide. A word that masked the unspeakable crime committed by the Nazis.

It was from the barbarity and conviction of the Nazi war criminals that the Geneva convention was born and adopted by the then league of Nations which Nigeria was signatory to as at the time of the civil war.

For Awolowo and his descendants and apologists to still hold on to his war time ideology that "all is fair in war" then it is either they are mistakenly ignorant of the Geneva convention and the Nuremberg Trials or that they are sinisterly evil.

Today, we see the same yorubas threatening another round of genocide on the Biafran people over a Biafran secession.

Why wouldn't they? After all war criminals like Awolowo, Obasanjo, Murtala and Buhari are celebrated today in Nigeria as heroes.

Talk about relative morality and the Yoruba hypocrisy.

What I do know is that Karma is never ever too late to have her pound of flesh.

Lets go back to the basics. After Biafra was declared, what business did you have in Ore, a non biafran territory...why were you there?

Yeah, we know....and they should keep the practice up there in emirate.

modath:
Kanayo. O.*Kanayo*

Thank you jare my sister.

This name sound like a festival in Epe called Kayo-Kayo.

It is common in Yoruba to use double link in attributes but never in proper names.

Example -
Fio-Fio....long beyond vision
Lai-Lai....into eternal
Jagun-Jagun....mercenary
Kiji-Kiji.....stampede


If a Yoruba is named Olusegun and his father or grandfather was also named Olusegun, out of respect we will skip the that generation before him that first bore the name or use the family totem in place of last name.

Say Im Olusegun and my grandfather is also Olusegun but our ancestral totem is ESO. Rather than carry Olusegun Olusegun for name I will be called Olusegun Eso.

We are unique in language and adopt sequencing and substitution in naming.

Yoruba, a very civilized people!

Fulani herdsman has more privileges and immunity than a state governor in Nigeria.

A state governors immunity ends when his term ends and EFCC come grab am.

Herdsman immunity is lifetime. He is untouchable!

Ziggylady:
This small boy who just learnt how to talk..better return your Uncle's phone before he smacks your head out of shape.

Nonsense.

Will you deny that Grandson is a hero?

Ziggylady:
Ignore Metaphysical cos he is a toddler fiddling with his uncle's phone.

I love you too my sister.

naptu2:


Go to the first post on this thread. There is a YouTube video in that post. Listen to 2minutes.14 seconds and 2.15 in that video. Then go to the screenshots in that post. Adeyinka Grandson posted a picture of the ballots that Demola and his gang burnt. Check the second screenshot and see what he says about that picture.

God bless you too

I see that boss!

I love Yoruba to the core, I cannot distance myself from anything pro-Yoruba, I accept it all, the good bad and ugly!

Grandson, to me, remains a good cause. He is today speaking about Ibo and Hausa in similar tones and temperaments that our noble leaders like Herbert Macauley and Awolowo spoke of white invaders pre-independence.

kikake:
Nnamdi Kanu is ever brilliant.
He uses peaceful method in whatever he campaigns for.

He goes and comes back from the UK.

That is precisely one of the contention Grandson has with leaders in Yoruba society. That is......nationalist of other tribes are able to get cover under their elites implicitly speaking out in tandem with their message, or just keeping quiet but not contradicting the message.

In Yoruba a nationalist like Grandson is quickly disowned by Yorubas that treat his message as an aberration. At end of day he is left standing alone and in regrets.

As much noise Yoruba leaders have made and as many warnings sent to Abuja, #revolutionnow is a catalyst to get the motion going. ....and people wonder why Deji Adeyanju wrote and said his engagements occupied the week. Lessons learnt!

naptu2:
The initial rumours were that Demola (an OPC leader) was burnt when he tried to snatch ballot boxes. It turns out that he was beaten, but he was not burnt. Residents (including both Yorubas and Igbos) rescued him and took him to the hospital. What was actually burnt was the motorcycle with which he and his gang came to the polling unit. There's actually a picture of the motorcycle on fire.

I knew of that when it happened.

I follow Grandson, and his Youtube recording was precisely the event you described. He actually called for the excesses of Ibo in Yorubaland to be curtailed. Grandson admits there are legitimate and honorable Ibos living in Yorubaland but they are a very small subset. The prevalent atrocities and particularly the acts of boldness and absence of fear or propiety in their conduct and relationship on Yorubaland is what irks Grandson, coupled with the Nigerian question.

Ibos are spreading fake news if they are now claiming that Grandson called for revenge on death of a Yorubaman.

Thanks for clearing this up naptu. God bless you my brother.

naptu2:
1) Grandson called for revenge on a Yoruba killed. That Yoruba was Demola. Watch the video, he repeatedly referred to the person that was burnt at Okota. Demola was not burnt. It was his motorcycle that was burnt. That's fake news.

2) Why would I defend and illegal and barabaric action??

So there is a Yoruba burnt at Okota, separate from Yoruba beaten for ballot papers.

Odingo1:
When did Igbo kill a Yoruba unjustly, you go to ballot unit and burn people ballot papers and know whether your head will not roll on the ground.

When Igbo kill an innocent Yoruba, you can take a revenge, not a revenge for criminals

You had intent to kill him.

Moreover you were worse criminal than him coming to destroy ballot paper.

What is the penalty for destroying ballot paper versus that of assault and battery?

His act was a misdemeanor in the books. You commited a felony with your response.

naptu2:
That was fake news. Demola was not burnt and he did not die. It was his motorcycle that was burnt.

Turns Out Ballot Destroyer Demola OPC Leader Did Not Die(Pics) 
https://www.nairaland.com/5043453/turns-out-ballot-destroyer-demola

I never said he died.

I said Grandson called for revenge on a Yoruba killed.

Can you defend why he would be beaten till he fell, and while on the ground continued to be wedged with stone?

TemmyT002:
Mtchewwwww
We no dey kill people anyhow in Yorubaland. The Yoruba's rarely hearkens to the call of anyone from anywhere.

We hearken to the voice of this Leader, Grandson.

Odingo1:
Who is authorized, are all people in that polling unit Igbos, people mob him, they mobs include Igbos, Yorubas and Hausa. You don’t go to where people are voting collect the ballot box and burn it and you expect people to be looking at you in Nigeria, he got served.

Shut up! Ibo people mobbed him.
You want to direct terror on others but when they respond you start playing victim and sharing out your culpability for aggression and assault.

If you cant handle Yoruba heat dont come in the kitchen with us.

Kanu called on Ibos to kill man of God Pastor Kumuyi if he set foot in SE. Just for setting foot in SE to preach Kumuyi was put on death list.

Grandson is only calling for revenge on the Yoruba Ibos killed.

Can you not see that Grandson is a better person than Kanu?

Odingo1:
By coming to burn ballot papers in a place that voting is going on, remember that Buhari ordered a shoot at sight order to anyone stealing ballots papers.
So what is your question.

So why didnt you hand him over to those authorised to shoot at sight?