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TAO12:
If you push me to the edge, I will present even more damaging evidence to expose you as one and the same person.



Now, you've just pushed me. >: Lol.

(1) The following link relates to a thread you [as "gregyboy"] created on May 18 at 6:38 PM

https://www.nairaland.com/5866543/identify-benin-greetings-here#89693577

[See 1st attached screenshot also for evidence that you created this thread].

(2) As expected, your second moniker ["Edeyoung"] was not cc:ied because at that time you were still acting naturally, as there was no need to copy yourself.

[See 1st attached screenshot for evidence for this].

(3) (i) The thread was meant to be an invitation [from "gregyboy"] to all Edos/Binis to identify their native dialectal Edo forms of greeting.

(ii) You [as "gregyboy"] identified your native dialectal form of greeting.

[See 1st attached screenshot for evidence of this].

(iii) In fact, other Edos/Binis who commented on the thread all follwed suit and identified thier own native dialectal forms too -- except for one Edo/Bini monker who commented but didn't identify. Lol.

(v) This Edo/Bini account (who failed to identify) goes by the moniker "Edeyoung".

[See 2nd attached screenshot for this].

Could it be that Edeyoung didn't really pay attention to see the topic of the thread?? Lol.

Well, the context of his comment doesn't seem to support this suggestion.

[See 2nd attached screenshot for this].


(vi) Oh wait a minute!

Could it be that the person behind "Edeyoung" has already identified his native greeting under a different moniker ["gregyboy"], and was simply unintentionally submitting to natural psychological inclinations??

(vii) As at now, Edeyoung's comment is the only comment on that thread from that moniker.

It is also the last comment on that thread.

[See 2nd attached screenshot for this].

(viii) Let's hope that after reading this, you will go back to that thread and make up some random native dialectal Edo greeting for Edeyoung.

Cheers!

cc: babtoundey, MetaPhysical

TAO12,
CIA dey recruit.

You are a natural gifted analyst. I bow!


Gregyboy come and prostrate and salute this wonderful maverick.

Cosbyrich:
I guess so because we have brickfield street and so on but why didn't they add the Eastern states names if it were to encourage cultural exchange?

Go to VI now, Ozumba Mbadiwe dey there. Surulere, Nnobi Street.

Sammy07:
Nice article.
but awon Oloripelebe will soon arrive to frustrate their anger on you.

Better ready your shield, else you'll be chopped raw

Do they have experience with Omo Onile? Ibos dont buy land in Lagos. Only Yorubas buy land and then build structure to rent to Ibo.
There is no reason for Ibo to have any thing to do with Omo Onile.

Cosbyrich:
In Ebutte Meta cum Yaba,there are some streets that are named Niger,Kano,Makurdi etc but Ebutte Meta cum Yaba is dominated 90% by the Yorubas and one hardly see the Northeners.
Pls,how come these names?

P.S:This is my area but I do not know how those streets' names came to be.

Anywhere you see Sabo, it means new town. You will notice there is a Sabo between Ebute Meta and Yaba.

Ebute Meta was a new settlement, you can even tell by the layout of the streets. Same with Sabo, Yaba and so on. Ebute Meta was a new settlement and handwork of the colonial government after Amalgamation. I guess the naming, it was a way to to encourage cultural exchange. I dont know......

gregyboy:
Mumu autocorrect all phones do that

Why e be say na only your phone does it?

All those properties FG seized from Diezani and Oduah in Ikoyi and VI should be given to Lagos State right away.

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First, may God rest the souls of all Lagos ancestors in peace. Especially the Land Owners. They stood the ground and fought for their right.
GOD BLESS OMO ONILE for continuing the legacy, I love them!

sesan85:
From Usen Development Foundation website: The People Of ODE AWURE
(USEN)
"Usenland originated as a farmstead about the tenth
century A.D. It was founded by some indigenes of
Ile-Ife, who migrated to settle on the well-drained
and fertile plain of the present Odomukpe quarters
of the town. The leader of these first settlers was
called Oyebo. He was a farmer and a famous
hunter who was very eager to kill any game in the
gigantic forest where he settled. Tradition has it
that during one of his expeditions he discovered a
stream which he named ERI-ODE (the hunter’s
stream) the stream is now commonly called
EREDE. The stream was later believed to have
some mystical powers. It was accordingly deified.
Erede is one of the most revered deities that are
worshipped by the people of Usen.
Oyebo was an elegant man, he was hardworking,
respectful, honest, and courageous. He had strong
affinity with Ile-Ife which made him to visit Ile-Ife
frequently and to persuade his co-settlers to
adhere strictly to the culture of Ile-Ife. The
prosperity, comfort and peace which he radiated
whenever he visited Ile-Ife attracted more indigenes
of Ife to the “new foundland”. The place expanded
and Oyebo and his co-settlers regarded it as an
extension of Ile-Ife and named it Ufe-kekere (Little
Ife).
He went to request the Olofen (Ooni of Ife) to send
one of his sons to rule over the settlement so as
to enhance its status among other settlements. It
was the practice in those days for Princes of Ife to
be sent out to rule in other settlements. The Ooni
obliged and gave the necessary regalia and staff of
office to one of his sons to become the traditional
ruler of the settlement. The new traditional ruler
took the title ALADIN.
On arrival at the settlement, he decided to change
the name “Ufe-Kekere” so that it would not conflict
with Ile-Ife his ancestral home. He considered the
place as a land of fortune and named it “Ode
Awure”. His royal highnessAladin thus became the
first OluAwure of Ode Awure. The current OluAwure,
His Majesty,OluOgbe II, is the thirty third (33rd)
OluAwure of OdeAwure (Usenland)."

This is from the Usen people themselves telling you their own origin. You Bini revisionists should stop being shameless for once. Geez!

Thats not a Benin man. Thats Edo man. There is difference. Benin is Yoruba, Edo is just.....non-Yoruba!

This was the recognized list of paramount kings of Yorubaland before a placed called Nigeria was formed.

Oba Ado.

How did it change to Omo n Oba of Benin?

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I use this post to re-construct the reason of Benin in Lagos. I also show some heirarchy of Yoruba Obas ever before anything was known as Nigeria or Western Region or Western Nigeria.....back when it was just Yorubaland.

Using these references I bring forth evidence that on the coast there were two two known forces between the Niger and westward to the Volta. They were Benin and Abidjan, Benin having a upper hand. In the old days, wars were fought using cavalry, naval or infantry. These three mediums were factors that contributed to Benin dominance on the coast. Ijebu was also a coastal city and maintained its independence from Benin with its focus on international trade, exporting clothes and serving as middlemen between coast and hinterland. There was no place known as Abeokuta or Owu or Ibadan in 1500 to 1700. The Empires of Ife, Oyo, Ghana, Dahomey, Nupe and Borgu Kingdoms, were all hinterland and did not use navy to fight wars. Hence we can say Benin had no competition on the coast initially. Benin military might was naval, it did not expand conquest to the interior beyond the forest belt.

Why was Benin in Lagos? The King of Benin himself did not go to war, rather, trading proxies used his authority to protect their own merchant trades along the swamps and coastal areas between River Niger and River Volta. A similar arrangement was entered into between Beecroft and Britain, where as private citizen he began by serving as proxy of the Crown in securing treaties with coastal chiefs and his impressive successes secured trust and he ended gaining administrative responsibilities that saw him acting as Commander in the assault of British Navy on Lagos in 1851. This explains the presence of mercenaries in the Benin war camps and war conflicts along the coast. For the proxies, their bottom line is securing trade advantage and retaining domination of trade with the natives. They did not care one bit whether their victory in a war helped Benin to expand real territory and conquest over surbordinate natives. This explains why Benin language, culture and tangible ownership is missing in almost all the native lands where in Benin derived token income.

Dahomey gained prominence in early 1600 but by late 1500 it was already taking assaults to the coast. Whydah, Adja, Popo, Badagry, Eko and so on. Dahomey had captured some coastal trade ports under Abidjan authority and even threatened Badagry and Adja numerous times. The traders in Eko did not want to suffer defeat in hand of Dahomey and end up loosing their trade advantage. The merchants (war proxies) thus approached Benin and obtained the King's authority for Lagos. The Oba's authority is what led to the war camps...one in Lagos port, the other in Badagry. The Badagry port was the deterrent to stall Dahomey from reaching Lagos. In return for the seal of authority, the proxies remitt income back to Benin. There was no sail boats that left Benin to power canoes to Lagos to go fight a war and conquest Lagos.

This is what makes it impossible to reconstruct the boat sail with its supposedly thousands of warriors that left Benin to go fight and conquer Lagos. The boats that formed the naval force were already boats in the rivers and canals that had hitherto been in everyday use commercially to transport people and goods upstream and downstream River Ogun and the Lagos Lagoon. They were manned by peace time merchants who in readiness for conflict had now become mercenaries and warriors for Benin and positioned to deal first opportunity blows to Dahomey than sit still and allow their trade and economy ruined and their land seized while they become prisoners and slave stock sold off to sea. Prudence!

Any war attack from Benin directly on Lagos would have impacted Ijebu and Oyo far more severe than it would impact the native Aworis. Ijebu controlled the right of way in all directions from Benin to get to Lagos, as it did hinterland to Oyo. Ijebu collected tolls on the rivers. A war in Lagos would disrupt trade and resulted in people deserting their homes and towns to escape into nearby towns. Ijebu would not have allowed such ambition without participating to defend Lagos against Benin. Neither would Oyo! The reason Ijebus are notorious in Yorubaland is nothing but stereotypical labels stemming from their shrewdness and first grade stratagem around market protections and business continuity. You will first kill Ijebu before you will unjustly interfere and disrupt his income; you can't take what Ijebu cherishes while he is breathing. It is on record that Ijebu retained its independence from Benin rule in its entire history, and in fact there is cordial trade relationship between the two. So the idea of Benin taking war to attack and conquer Lagos is untrue. Benin had authority of war in Lagos....but it was for DEFENSE of Lagos, not conquest of Lagos. If a ward had broke out it would have happened at the Badagry camp....and only Dahomey defeated that post will they then enter to attack Lagos but it never happened. The deterrence in Badagry served its purpose well.


The Cessation Treaty of 1861 caught the Idejo Chiefs unawares but they gradually petitioned Britain and steadily reverted Dosunmu's act in ceeding their land to foreigners. In their petition their core points relied on two historical facts.

1. Dosunmu can ceede his crown and throne that's a business between him and Oba of Benin but he has no authority, nor does Oba of Benin, on the legal rights of lands in Lagos without an express authority of the Idejo Council.

What this means is, the Idejo Council acknowledged that an earlier treaty existed between Benin and Lagos and it established peace and security allowing the Oba to sit in Lagos in person of a proxy that acts out his authority. The throne and crown are symbols of the authority. That treaty of peace and security did not confer nor include authority over the land of Lagos. They mentioned three classes of nobility that act out Oba of Benin authorities, in addition to Eleko - Akarigbere (Aides and Ministers), Ogalade (Priests), Abagbon (Warriors).

2. Idejo submitted that their treaty of peace and security with Benin motivates them to vacate their palace and leave town when there is a raging conflict in town. The Eleko must secure town, not Idejo (Land Barons), and this has been the practice.

The Colonial government contested in court and lost the argument.


Let me stop here but I followup with attachments, starting with a word of wisdom from a scholar, admonishing the need to filter and get facts out of the many versions, including those issued from places of high credibility and nobility.

Not every rulership was won by a conquest, many rulership in fact started from a position of allegiance and defense. Such is the case of Benin and Lagos. Britain had to destroy many Yoruba coastal towns to bring them under its rule, yet Yoruba hinterland also came under same rule without a single fire shot! America blew the Spaniards and Mexicans to pieces to acquire Florida and California...but same America signed trade treaty with France and purchased Louisiana without a single fire. America bought Alaska from its avid opponent, USSR, without a war but took battle to Panama just to secure a right of way.


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TA012
Etinosa1234

Etinosa1234:
Lol simple yes or no u nor fit ans u think ur 20 page write-up fazes me...u must be drumk

Assuming ur fable that there was political alliance is true...then it should be good to admit that the Benin must have been so wise and smart to
1) choose ur king
2)force u guys to pay tributes without any form of conquest .
The same Benin that u said are uncivilised and walking naked as at early 19th century

Well there are levels to stupidity and there is the Awori and their grandchild Tao.
.those ones are whole new level

See ur oba trying to prove his eligibility of being the rightful king...(will it matter in a political alliance)

See ur obas paying tribute to Benin up till 1851.. ( please where do they pay tributes in a political alliance)

Dey there make Akintoye dey brainwash u..ohhh I forgot... The naked Benin has brainwash them b4 so nor be New thing

Cc gregyboy...

Expect to hear from me later on the attachment.

You have walked yourself into a trap with this document.

CC
TAO12

Queseda:
If you're wondering why the trio of Oshiomhole, Tinubu and Buhari are the most hated politicians East of the Niger, this is just one of the reasons. From sacking their 'son' GEJ from office, to fücking all their favourite politicians - Atiku, Dino and Saraki hardcore, rubbishing the aspirations of whichever politician they show any glimpse of sympathy for - Ambode, Adeleke, Fayose.....now Obaseki don join the list, haba! This is too much. Even if na me I will hate these irrepressible trio

Remove Ambode from your list his case has zero connection with the attributes you listed.

davidnazee:
why do you want to carry on the pain of your ancestors? they saw the big joysticks of their Edo conquerors for over 500years, now you wan carry on that legacy; looking at Edo warriors big joysticks lol

In 1940, 80 yrs ago, your 25 yr old Edo ancestors were swinging penis around in public and titt1es all around town because they were not eligible to wear clothes. Meanwhile Binis of any age wore clothes.

Yet you say you taught Yoruba about garment. You needed the clothe most. . Yoruba have been dressed in garments centuries before Edo was civilized by Oranmiyan. We have proof.

I saw the heading and rushed to see hoping to find some world class rare art of civilization. When I saw the art they were talking about....I felt I .. Mmmtcheeew...

If you see these things on sale how much would you offer to buy it?

Juliusmalema:
Imagine. Do you have Character?

Lalasticlala
Seun
Dominique
Sissy3
Rule 2 heavily violated. I have just been bruised beyond repair. I need Justice.
Seun Rule 2 violated.

Justice ke, for who?

Uwa need justice!

Start campaigning for the poor girl to get justice. She did not deserve such brutal attack and punishment regardless of what caused it. Stop attacking her.

Pray for her and demonize her attackers.

Get sense before I banish you in Nairaland. Dont make me declare you a non-entity in Biafraland.

Yeye

Etinosa1234:
if u had done ur research..u won't be talking like a retard... people who are not conquered don't pay tributes to people..

My last reply to u kid

Edo slave, add picture of your ancestor and their penis to Edo blog sites to complete story of your servitude.

Juliusmalema:
Avoid Pentecostal churches they will not agree. There is nothing Christ like or Christianity in all these Pentecostal churches be it winners, RCCG, Mountain of fire and the rest..

These churches has bastardized whatever is remaining of Christianity in Nigeria. They are just money making machines headquartered in South west and milking unsuspecting regions dry and channeling the money to west.

I thought they said the girl WAS a virgin and very respectful. She is a disgrace if she had slept with the said Pentecostal pastor knowing fully well he is married. I now begin to wonder what kind of book she went to read in a church when everywhere is locked down and ASUU on strike. A certain said she can only vouch for the child in her stomach because she may not be aware if the one at the back has plucked any fruit behind



The story is even beyond rape. It was a consensus act between her and the pastor only that she got pregnant at the process and refuse to abort because she loves the pastor.

The pastor now hired a killer who upon completing his assignment also tasted what the pastor always cherish before it backfired.


Virgin Uwa rest in peace.

I was going to say something but i looked up and saw your name.

Its no use responding to a useless vagabond. After hushpuppy you are next on fbi watchlist. Keep messing around, you hear me?

Etinosa1234:
All talk no meaning...

y'all overrate ursef too much ...if u can't address any of my answer(with facts like I did) that I gave u ... I'm so sorry... I can't answer

if water and non water was ever a factor..what then made Tao's forefathers to be paying annual tributes to us up till 1851... So if u still think water and non water is a factor ... I'll simply ignore u the way we ignore mad men..

By not replying (incase ur brain can't process it)

Make una stop this nonsense abeg!

Name the war you fought in Lagos. Simple!

People no get time for your spits on this thread. Keep it simple, name your war in Lagos.

If you no fit name war then it didnt happen. Your mission in Lagos is not for war.


Also dispute that you are tenant in Lagos and Edo. No surutu abeg, keep it simple!

gregyboy:
You're making a joke.. The emoji explains that

Anyway my ancestoral linage constantly bleeped the yorubas people up when thier heads were needed for sacrifice....

Maybe thats you guys call us witches because of the inbuilt anger over the centuries

Bini kept slave stock. Historical accounts say those stocks were sold and at one point the palace stopped selling them and started using the stock to sacrifice to Yoruba deities. History says Edo were the ethnic stock.

To prove it, history went further to provide evidence that your ancestors, as slaves, were forbidden from wearing clothes unless they were first granted an okay from palace to cover nak3dn3ss.

History says all these, not me.

I dont think Nigerian military has superior power to defeat bokoharam using bombs or even the bandits using guns.

Who can Nigerian Military defeat in a face off

davidnazee:
Thank you ooo. It’s annoying when someone brings unintelligent and stupid theory to argue about.
I actually think this metaphysical is intentionally trying to embarrass Yorubas because things he says will embarrass anyone..
I don rest for him matter.

Ehhn... Unintelligent ke!

You no fit name war.

You no fir dispute Oba na tenant, whether in Lagos or Edo.

You no fit reconstruct your war expedition.

Na so you go just dismiss the query....lazily dismiss this important quest as unintelligent

You owe me answers o! I no go let you get off just easy like that.

Etinosa1234:
boss just rest..that guy Na clown...I just weak...water and non water...but e dey record say Benin get that place by conquest,deposed their olofin and set up an oba for them and even collected tributes till 1851... and this clown dey talk of water and nonwater...
boss abeg no reply their mention again
I've seen brilliant Yoruba but I nor know where dem for pick this one

Him come dey tag Tao make him save am...Tao wey go write like 30 lines of stupidity come end am with I've EDUCATED u all and u HAVE take my word as AUTHORITY...... then fellow zombies wey e be say Tao Na their only source of information abt Benin go dey shout "ride on ma"

My original post was addressed to you. Im sure you saw it but you refused to answer. You know me....I go flog you till you turn black-purple and leave you like a used rag here.

Davidnazee started like he knew what he was talking about but he was quickly deflated. Maybe you can help him.

Refer back to my original 5 points he is struggling to answer. He needs a life saver.

No guess work please.....and no witchery.


Where is edeyoung sef? Ohh, i forgot, thats gregyboy now..

davidnazee:
Well one thing is certain; whatever story or version you bring will be regarded as a Yoruba folklore and found only in the minds of Yorubas as you have already agreed your version is oral and cultural. All accounts of recorded history says Great Benin conquered Lagos. And the conquest was witnessed and participated in by Europeans.

Benin didn’t give a name to the war but since you say Yorubas always name wars then you can ask TAO11 what name her ancestors gave to the war Great Benin brought to them, she is the last Aworian

Your talk about water people and non water people is very shallow so say something else..

How can you say you fought a war and there is no name for it. War is monumental and a landmark of history.

You went all way from Benin to Lagos to fight a war and you didnt have a name for your mission or a historic marker for your conquest. Are you serious Who does that

If there is no name for it it didnt happen!

Like I said before, you dont have to respond immediately on this. Take your time to dig and come back with a name for this war that Bini fought in Lagos. Stop guessing about it.


Water is a prominent feature in any land. It makes a huge difference your capacity to influence different aspects of trade, execution of defense of homeland and war to foreign land.

Water gave Lagos advantage over Britain in the war of Agidingbi.

Water gave Britain advantage over Argentina in the war over Falklands.

Start reconstructing your journey for me starting from Benin to fight war in Lagos. If you cant do it right away, please go get your material together.

Do a night meeting of witches as is typical of you and get your facts together, then report back here.

Im a patient person!

davidnazee:
Babaramota the Yoruba native doctor.. him Cain Dey wait for am

Aah!

Let me double cc him....

Cc
Babaramota

Cc
Babaramota

Cc
Babaramota

gomojam:
That thick head is a fraud. He always need articles or evidence as if he was a thesis supervisor. Who knows maybe he is collating materials to write some fictionalized Benin version of The Game of Throne.

Since he is too lazy, as proven so far, to source for materials independently, he keeps creating silly threads with sillier claims that will incite debates (with proves, evidence, citations etc) from which he fraudulently copy paste into his scripts. He no go remember paraphrase am self.

Do not be surprised if you recognize an adaptation of your arguments here by a certain "scholar from Benin" has been transitioned into a blockbuster movie. Netflix, Amazon, Irokotv etc. will scramble for it

Worst of all, being the fraudster that he is, he will never give credit or admit that it is an intellectual property from Nairaland by one "EDUCATOR TAO12. May God bless her"

I just weak when I imagine the scam

A very good point!

TAO becareful sharing too much. Especially if it cannot be found on public domain do not reveal it.

Imagine how badly Edo people have taken snipets of information from different angles and mishaped them to tell lies on their various websites. Many people around the globe believe them because Yoruba has not created a counter IFE website that tells the true account.

Many of what you share here are valid counter points that opened many people eyes and see Edo as an uncivilized land that would have remained so till today if IFE had not intervened and civilized them.

So please watch what you share, your materials should go on a IFE website that narrates and details its domains far and wide, including Benin.