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imhotep:
Nigeria may lose 24 councils to new UN state

https://guardian.ng/news/nigeria-may-lose-24-councils-to-new-un-state/

cc lzaa itooworwor afamed metaphysical

I see Gwoza but not Sambisa. Why? They cannot have those councils, unless they agree to also take Sambisa with them.

OfoIgbo:
Unfortunately, Yoruba women are not renowned to be beautiful, which is really why Yoruba men rush and drool over Igbo and other women

See jealousy! You dey jealous Yoruba woman ikebe and curves.

Let me catch you wink at Yoruba woman again.

Ekwutox:
Chai stop replying the fool pls. You know the frustrated fellow is from a minority tribe in the south and they were taught to hate the wrong people.

In times like this you ignore them or else they will drag to the mud like the pigs that they are, the idiot is probably cultist sef cuz majority of his likes are.

Instead of you to calm Ardar you dey put petrol for fire.

Ardar,


Na wah for your mouth.



#Yorubawoman4firstlady

Staro:
Oga, you'll die of tribalism
for nothing !

Why are you so full of hatred for Ibos ?
.

How is asking support for Yorubawoman turn to hatred for Ibo?

Dude, you are a bigot! You hate Yorubawomen.

DCatt:
Sir ke!

The man is right and it has nothing to do with degree, a non Nigerian told me that Yoruba are the only people like that in the world.

When I said we need to stop selling land but least for 25 years to non Yoruba, some Yoruba slaves here said the constitution won't allow it as if the constitution is made for Yoruba alone, nothing has happened to people who don't even lease land to other tribes in this same Nigeria.

So I think slave mentality is the problem Yoruba have and need to address.

Ah, ma binu jare! Aimo lo se mi, atunse wa. Ma, lo yee.

AntonVince:
Pure unbridled hate.
So much for "One Nigeria".

The sooner this contraption disintegrates the better.

Nna, to effect One Nigeria the grassroot must be unhinged so that an Ibo or Hausa have equal and same right as Yoruba to be a Baale or an Oba in Yorubaland.

By same degree of unity a Yoruba or Igbo have equal and same right as Fulani to become a Maigari or Emir in Hausaland.

Likewise the two of Yoruba and Fulani carry that right to become ruler over in Iboland.

This is one nigeria! Anything else is a joke.


Support #yorubawoman4firstlady

Tmb78:
How do you expect yorubas like us and indeed reasonable igbos on this forum to take you seriously?
On one hand,you want our women to be celebrated and appreciated
On the other hand, you are lusting after Igbo women,at least,I see what you wrote in the other thread and how igbos have been booing you for it since.
Guy,maintain a struggle.
Stop speaking from both sides of the mouth.
Though,some other Yoruba guys do it too here and it's sickening if you lots don't know.

Are you that daft to see that calling Igbos my in-laws is nothing but a play? Mr Righteous, take your Friday sermon elsewhere.

Those who know me here understand and are able to relate. You are the type of Acada people i often lambast on this forum, your education has deprived you of native sense, everything is one way traffic.

The Igbo people I prank with understand me just as i understand them . Yorubas that have been here long enough understand me and know what im about.

So kindly shut up and vote #yorubawoman4firstlady.

budaatum:
We do dodge tax! You should see us on market day dodging tax. Perhaps we are just better at collecting it. You should see the tax collectors on market day too.

Its not a tribal thing. No one anywhere wants to give their hard earned money to government, especially if the government is believed to be corrupt.

Below is Her Majesty's Revenue Collectors going after tax dodgers!

Yorubas are cool.

I love Yoruba people.
Great civilization!

TAO12:
Even as at the late-1890s/early-1900s, Binis were still largely roaming the streets st@rk n@ked. European accounts document all these details. See attached. I hope this helps kill your bigotry.

Thanks to the Ijebus who brought you all clothes in unprecedentedly large quantities.

cc: MetaPhysical, Olu317

TAO,
God bless you!

We have not given Ijebu people their dues. There are records crediting Ijebu people as the origin of clothing and weave designs all over bights of benin and biafra. Their designs went as far as Calabar.

Just by studying Ijebu clothing and its distribution on the coast it also touches on the culture of Ogboni shoulder drape and certain patterns and motifs. Which should debunk the claim of gregyboy on Ogboni origin.

ItooWorWor:
Rekhina we coming


imhotep lzaa you should be ready

Im not almajiri.

Only almajiri have privilege to travel interstate. Im banned from going East to see my inlaws.


Vote #yorubawomen4firstlady

davidnazee:
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Nobody (including scholars/historians) acknowledges this rubbish you wrote as significant enough to study or research.
. it’s not true or even if it was, it played no role at all in affecting Benin Kingdom in any way so no attention is paid to this.
However there are numerous books and studies detailing Benin conquests and colonization of the Yoruba people. That is a forever “stain” on your seemingly great history lol.

And for your foolish talk about Benin speaking Yoruba, that is a big lie. It is not written anywhere that Benin spoke Yoruba. But however it is well documented that the Edo language was spoken and understood to some great degree in many parts of Yorubaland. This will be due to the fact that the Edo language was the language of your first colonial masters.

I know you are leaning on Olfert Dapper again.

I told you to stop using that freak as reference.

Is that not the man that said after you wash Benin walls he saw them shine like mirror? Has he ever seen a wall in his own Dutchland shine like mirror after a wash?

This act of sweet patronize is what we call Alaye in Yorubaland. Somebody wants your goods, they praise you to heavens and give narrations of what you can and cannot do....the moreso what you cannot do....beyond practical human endeavor. This swells your ego and you release to them what they want, plus more....including what they didnt ask for. This is how dutch sailors ripped you off.

Olfert Dapper was the Alaye that sang your praises and said things about youbthat was not possible in his own kingdom....or in any kingdom.

Olfert Dapper was a tout! Have you ever seen a wal shine like mirror after washing it? That would be a marble wall. Marble materials are recent discoveries in structural ornaments. Their use is less than 100yrs old.

So stop relying on Alaye Dapper as your authority on history.

budaatum:
Well, perhaps the Ibos need to learn about civic duty more than most but every tribe ought to know too if Nigeria is to progress.

Yoruba dont dodge tax but I cant stand Ibo tax dodgers.

I feel cheated when everybody pay their tax and improve IGR and Ibo say they love tax free.

They love tax free but they want developments. What kind of nonsense is this? Who will pay for development in alaibo? Is it Hausa that has zero input, or Yoruba that is the backbone of Nigerian economy?

Dont you feel cheated when Ibo want the tax from Ypruba to be used to develop their "tax-free" region?
What kind of bullshyyte we have here?

If Yorubaland is tax free would there be a land of refuge for Ibo migrants to escape to? No.

I hate their stewpid "tax-free" chest beat.

I will choke a tax dodger!

Cherez:
I beg when did Itshekiri turn Yoruba?

Go and ask them now, abi Remilekun na Ibo name?

Una wan put Warri inside Biafra too?

Edeyoung:
We civilized you guys and gave you clothes thought you all our worship even sold you as slaves...


You all came to trade with the whitemen at the benin river from your vsrious location were the oba laws fully influenced you......



You're lesving in dreams copy copy tribe

Come and tell us about clothes.

Tell us clothing styles, dyeing arts, weaving styles and cultures you Edo people traded clothes with.

budaatum:
Well, I think all Nigerians should contribute to their society. And taxation is one way to make them.

You believe that because you are Yoruba.

Yorubas are urban dwellers and to sustain urbanism you need amenities. This is why tax is important.

Do people in village worry about tax the way people in city do? No.

Moreover people that have never had kings are clueless about state rulership and thus do not have need for taxation.

Ibo enwe eze!
As my inlaws say, Ibo has no king.

davidnazee:
She (Yorubas) can have my broomstick if it will boost your weak and inferior egos. I no want am again lol.
You people are desperately trying to steal the glory and achievements of another tribe just to make yourselves look great lol. Well it’s understandable to envy Benin Kingdom especially when you open history books and all you see is mighty Benin Kingdom but trying to claim it as yours when it’s not is shameful and inferior.
Keep trying to repair your inferior history.

Yoruba Empire made Benin Kingdom mighty. Without Yoruba Benin is not a kingdom. Your articles of sovereingty came from Ife Empire.

arstot:
Copied

YOU ARE A PAID AGENT, YORUBA MUSLIMS BLAST MURIC'S AKINTOLA

Press Statement by Yoruba Islamic Organisation, (YISO)

Claims that Amotekun was set up to promote O'odua Republic is not only false but a conscious attempt to subvert the campaign against armed banditry in the South West.

The Muslim Rights Concern, (MURIC) has accused the South West Governors of using Amotekun to prepare for O'odua Republic.

But in a statement on Monday, the Yoruba Islamic Organisation (YISO) described as embarrassing claims by Prof Ishaq Akintola who leads MURIC.

The statement signed by YISO Secretary for Organisation, Dr Sadiq Popoola described Akintola as a "conscious enemy of Yoruba people who takes pleasure in making unfounded statements flavoured with lies, cheap and dirty propaganda in his bid to enrich himself through sabotaging the interests of his own people."

Popoola said "Akintola does not even speak for his family talk less of speaking for Yoruba Muslims. He is a psychopath whose mental state is questionable. He appears to be driven by money and arrogant pursuit of a culture of treachery. Akintola has done more damage to the Muslim faith that his going to hell is certain. This will be after he had consistently written the name of his family in the book of ignominy."

Dr Popoola who said he knows Akintola very well at Ile-Ife where he comes from said the MURIC leader has been receiving money from Fulani caliphate for the past 25 years with the sole agenda of causing chaos in Yorubaland.

The group said it was aware that Akintola collected 50million in March with the aim of setting up Islamic groups in South South and in Igboland to cause diaffection and crisis in those two geo-political zones.

The group said "Akintola is a man without shame. He is a man without conscience. He is driven by primitive accumulation of wealth and can do anything for money. His career is built around backsliding, threachery, lies and extremism all in his bid to justify stipends he collects from Fulani caliphate."

The group said Akintola has been working desperately to seek appointment from President Mohammadu Buhari but his persistently reckless and irresponsible conduct has consistently isolated him from those in Abuja.

"We know the real Muslim organisations in Yorubaland and Akintola is not one of them. If he wants to try his popularity, let him contest for election at Ile-Ife. MURIC has had no election of new executives since established while Akintola has been using the organisation to enrich himself.

"Akintola belongs to the dustbin of history. He will go down in human records as the most irresponsible person, the most corrupt individual who can do anything for money including selling his own children."

The group asked the South West Governors not to be distracted by a frivolous and petty individual whose trademark is a promiscuous life built around betrayals and a history of dishonesty from where he earns a living using MURIC as a conduit pipe to enrich himself.

While Ibos are advancing Akintola and Muric to mock Yoruba, the Professor is importing Islamization in your homeland. Almajiris by truckload are delivered to Alaibo everyday.

Olu317:
They are not bro. You can google picture of all Yoruba scarification. Beside, there are Yoruba descendants who don't wear scarification on their faces, except if one is abiku linked. I am sure Ileife art work has prove such exist at one time in that cosmopolitan city....



Cheers

It depends on what time period.

The mark on the Nubian on left with turban is same with themark on the girl and this fella pictured second below.

This mark - the 6 whiskers - is either Gobir/Yauri, Igala/Yagba.

Because it has Gombo with it Im leaning more towards Igala/Yagba, against Gobir/Yauri.


However, if records prove the whiskers belong to Gobir/Yauri, then Im leaning towards Yauri.

Yoruba and Tapa wear Gombo.

Yoruba has lost plenty domains and indigenous lands in Nigeria. We were in Kebbi and our language was at one time an indigeneous language in Kebbi State. Similar erosion is taking place in Lokoja, our indigenity and language in Lokoja is loosing its footprint.

macof:
Yes. If you have been following my posts on oduduwa especially those made on Edo threads I have stated the historical interpretations from ife traditions severally

I know you have. The question is, can one find in Ife contrast accounts about Oduduwa's origin?

Reference to your statement below.

Rather, appreciation for Ife traditions point to Oduduwa being in fact a local Yoruba man born and breed on a hill community east of the main city before descending and relocating to Igbodio
So there was no case of "the language of the immigrants was lost to the language of the aborigines"
Unless you have empirical facts that indeed oduduwa was not local to this part of the world

budaatum:
Why only Ibos?

Leave that side alone, they are my in-laws.

Amotolongbo:
55km bridge cost N7.3trillion in China.

Second Niger bridge, 1.63km cost Nigerian government 336billion Naira.

Definitely 55km in Nigeria, using the cost of second Niger bridge as the yardstick, will cost Nigeria about 11.34trillion Naira.

It will be more than that.

Chinese govt no pay omonile.

That one alone na 1billion go chop am.

NURTW go get bus stop contract for inside.

Alaye go chop now, abi you no want feed Alaye?

We go beg mammy water to carry her pikin relocate so the concrete foundation fit sit for sea bottom. The Olokun people need white clothes, every go be pure white.

Miyetti Allah go need grazing grass for the artificial island so cows fit trek 20km ontop bridge come graze for the island.


Mmtccheeewww....Giant of Africa!

davidnazee:
Your obsession with Benin is a sickness for you.. you are still trying to prove your foolish theories..

So its now an obsession?
David, this girl has scattered your 500yr old otumokpor. Surrender your night broomstick now and promise never to do witchcraft anymore.




TAO,
Great job jare!

TAO12:
https://www.nairaland.com/5761595/benin-kingdom-edo-state-remained/49#90245051

You are wicked!
I already told you.

You have completely humiliated and destroyed all the Edo witchery and mouth in front of the whole world.

Even Ibos that once had no clue to face them now have a full collection of materials to flog Edo with.

...and you did it singlehandedly.

Mmmtchheww, I bow for you!

Edos go and gather your witchery jujus and all your elders and birds and night broomstick flyers ....gather here and surrender your brromstick and otumokpor. Your witchery has been defeated!

Olu317:
Babe, Obviously you're attention seeker and you got my attention. But inform us on Biniland that was at the mercy of Ogedegbe Agbogun gboro in late 18th century. So, what is it to grab ? .

The Biniland that's not bigger than the whole of Ogun state is where Yoruba wants to grab. A land that does not even have natural resource to tap into . i just wonder what you mean as land grabbers! Trust me, I don't have time fo this kind of matter that's baseless.

They have witchery!

Edeyoung:
We need her post the book here.... For all to see


We have no connection with yorubas rather than
Civilizing them

Yoruba has never claimed to have connection with Edo.

We told you we own you!

Ownership of your land is different from a fraternal link with you.

In other words, Bini belong to Yoruba and Bini is a suzerain over Edo.

Why are you asking for that quotations to be put here? Do you doubt what TAO said?

Do you doubt what RC Law said?


We own you, end of talk!

macof:
Wesley Mohammed is neither a historian nor anthropologist nor is his area of expertise broadly related to finding the origins of West African peoples. He is rather a theologian focused on Islam.
Proper Islamic scholars don't even agree with him or any of the afro centric direction the Nation of Islam takes Islam which is telling a lot.

Many narratives are simply desperate moves to Abrahamize African people.. Yorùbá are not the only ones that suffer this attack.
So it takes a good sense of source critic to identify the historicity of the narratives

Wesley Mohammed doesn't do a bad job in the sense that he tries to make sense of his sources but evidently he is fixed on africanizing Islam that he sometimes quotes authors who maintain a non middle eastern origin for Yoruba but finds away to twist Arabs into the mix ...

First, In his book he attempts to separate the Yoruba into subgroups of different unrelated origins.. This is baseless in real fact
I would love to receive any sort of detail on why anyone would suggest that yoruba subgroups came from different parts of the world and simply met each other in what is now SW Nigeria.
Also his whole position on Arabian origin for Yoruba is based on the oduduwa mecca narrative (I will address this below) which is not based on facts
Thirdly, in his concluding remarks you clearly get a sense of his intention which is to claim that Islam is an African origin, created by Black Arabs and meant for their descendants all over Africa

See the discrepancy?


2. This point of reference to oduduwa would only be relevant if we were still stuck on the idea of a middle eastern origin for oduduwa
[just as some people claimed the Yoruba from inception were from the middle East, many also claimed oduduwa came from the middle East to meet aboriginals]

Rather, appreciation for Ife traditions point to Oduduwa being in fact a local Yoruba man born and breed on a hill community east of the main city before descending and relocating to Igbodio
So there was no case of "the language of the immigrants was lost to the language of the aborigines"
Unless you have empirical facts that indeed oduduwa was not local to this part of the world

Might shock you to be told this after years of hearing oduduwa came from mecca right? But ask yourself where that narrative originates from and what sort of relic supports this


3. There is no basis for the statement that the Semitic language speakers and Kwa language speakers were living in the site of the sahara speaking one language before its desertification

Is Ife consistent on the origin of Oduduwa?

absoluteSuccess:
Great post there bro, but be sure its never enough to amount to anything with these folks, that should help you to understand that here, its each to his own. The truth is this folks have no history to tell us but fault whatever you like bring to the topic from wherever authority you deem fit.

You don't use fact against people that such fact does not impress, fault finding is fact finding to them. So, give your story, there will always be something to nullify it. So its really "christian trying to convert an atheist" mentality at play here on this thread, so thread carefully.

That in itself shows that politics of religion has become the filter by which everyone juxtapose their perception of Yoruba history.

The truth therefore lies in the very "politics of religion" here at play. Just put the sentiment out of it and you will see the truth and the lies pretending to be truth. At the path of the truth lies progress. Falsehood lies in wait, it never continue on its own. It feeds on others' idea.

Yoruba's hebrew heritage

Yoruba history is exactly what you have amongst the Hebrew, whose history forms the corpus of their religion, and I must inform you that the Yoruba were part of the Israelites up till the period of Moses and beyond, hence we have a reference to Moses in Ifa corpus till date.

Moses was a priest, with Ephod (Ifodu as metaphysical and Olu loves to put it) and thurim. In fact, Ifa is Yoruba for "Sopher" (they will rush to google an pretend to have always know what this mean any moment from now, telling us they pluck it from their head in a split seconds).

That scribe culture gave birth to Ifa, and from similar strand, philosophy and sufi, absorbed into Islam from the Attica Hellenism that predates the Arabic enlightenment. So, Sopher, Osofa, Onifa, Adifa: these were ancient chroniclers of the annals of the people among classical orients.

Men such as the early church fathers, (like St. Augustine of Hippo, a moor who brought the whole essence of Aristotelian philosophy into Christianity) compares to a Sopher, knotting two traditions together which themselves have layers deep down the ancient Egyptian culture.

This tradition of knotting records together survive as Ifa in Yoruba. The patron saint of this order is none other than the king Solomon of the Yoruba, Orunmila (heaven rock open), Akere finu s'ogbo. Just as Palm (Ope) is the symbol of the tribe of Judah, it is the same with Orunmila.

Ope abise wara.

History is not static, a man asking you to fetch him Yoruba who could read the language of the Egyptian is a man living in an eternal afternoon. Give him exactly that if you can, he'll transform the argument till the long yarn where you feel delirious and just fizzle out.

Such a man is unaware of what obtain at the time in question and as such, neither historian nor an enthusiast but a Yahweh-stalker pretending to be intellectual. Which kwa language is the same? Did the Egyptians and her vassals converse in the same language from archaeological findings?

You don't need all the facts to decide-Mark Twain.

That's the difference between the wisdom born of rigorous mental strength such as exhibited here by original researchers, compared to fallacy promoters waiting to fault anything you could come up with. These are "sub-intellects" pretending to be intellectuals.

To destroy is easy.

@bold, manuscript of knowledge, or book of knowledge.

Philo-Sopher
An adherent of knowledge


Absolutesuccess,
Wa gba'yi!

Nobody told me Kuje has a ramp for wheelchair and handiccap access.

Nigeria is advancing.

Haboki1990:
Which through history even Yoruba women will knock on the head for saying such a lie

Yoruba women has only been known to be dirty that even comedians now make joke out of it
Unto of their dirtiness, they still bleach theirselves just to look yellow like Igbo women so that they too can be attractive to men but they always end up becoming more uglier
I'm sure that you will still sell your father's land to an Igbo man and head down to the east to pick an Igbo woman

Igbo boys still learning trading lagos are the ones knacking your women the ones that manages to look clean like Igbo girls

Pull up history on hygiene and cleanliness and compare. Comedians are not historians.

Your women are said not to be particularly tidy and neat in their homesteads. They keep a clean frontdoor, but beyond that frontdoor is a heap of trash and filth.

We see it in their appearance as well. They keep a cosmetic face but underneath is ugliness and stink.

Go east to do wetin? Say who die...


Come to motor park and see whn bus arrive from Enugu, escapists from baby factory looking for adoption. They throw themselves at Ypruba, their only best chance at survival and citizenship in SW.