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enilove:
Prove your points.

This is not about fear. It is about rebuking and terminating evil agendas .

If the Muslim should come out openly and declare wars against Christians globally , they can't last 2weeks before they will be exterminated .

But they are cowards that attack innocent people secretly .
They are not only cowards but devilish .

This thread is to get prepared against their evil plans.

And if you are a Muslim , go and inform you devilish people that God shall waste them as He wasted them in the past.

LNGKMD!
Fear of Islam has turned you to a clown.

How do you feel after saying these?

enilove:
Historically , how many Christians have you seen killing Christians for the spreading of Christianity?
And how many Christians have been killed in this nation by Muslims to spread their religion? Records abound .
What about around the world , these are uncountable.
And how did they spread their religion ? Was it by preaching or violence ? Judge for yourself.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

قٰتِلُوا الَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَلَا بِالْيَوْمِ الْأَاخِرِ وَلَا يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُۥ وَلَا يَدِينُونَ دِينَ الْحَقِّ مِنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُوا الْكِتٰبَ حَتّٰى يُعْطُوا الْجِزْيَةَ عَنْ يَدٍ وَهُمْ صٰغِرُونَ
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled."
(QS. At-Tawba 9: Verse 29)

Nonsense!

I believe it is what your religion did in the past that is making your God insecure of the future.

You are afraid you might be slaughtered.

Muslims are better than that!

enilove:
I live in Ogun state.

My blood shall not be shed , in Jesus' name.

Anyone planning evil for the Christians in this nation shall not succeed and every weapon of destructions bought to destroy churches and to waste lives of the Christians shall be used to destroy those who bought them , in the name of Jesus.

Amen.

LNGKMD!
Trinitarian Christians are the evil bro.
Be careful what you pray.

enilove:
It is not by force , go and pray for them.

But I will pray that their agenda would not come to pass , in Jesus name.

And all those who are agents of darkness who wants the agenda of the Muslim jihadists to come to pass , shall be wasted along with the evil jihadists , in Jesus name.

Amen.

LNGKMD!

Now the Islamaphobia begins.

I am enjoying this!

MaxInDHouse:
You want to joke, right?

OK. You shouldn't be joking with what you don't understand.

[5:3] Al-Māidah-الْمَآئِدَة
"حُرِّمَتۡ عَلَیۡکُمُ الۡمَیۡتَۃُ وَ الدَّمُ وَ لَحۡمُ الۡخِنۡزِیۡرِ وَ مَاۤ اُہِلَّ لِغَیۡرِ اللّٰہِ بِہٖ وَ الۡمُنۡخَنِقَۃُ وَ الۡمَوۡقُوۡذَۃُ وَ الۡمُتَرَدِّیَۃُ وَ النَّطِیۡحَۃُ وَ مَاۤ اَکَلَ السَّبُعُ اِلَّا مَا ذَکَّیۡتُمۡ ۟ وَ مَا ذُبِحَ عَلَی النُّصُبِ وَ اَنۡ تَسۡتَقۡسِمُوۡا بِالۡاَزۡلَامِ ؕ ذٰلِکُمۡ فِسۡقٌ ؕ اَلۡیَوۡمَ یَئِسَ الَّذِیۡنَ کَفَرُوۡا مِنۡ دِیۡنِکُمۡ فَلَا تَخۡشَوۡہُمۡ وَ اخۡشَوۡنِ ؕ اَلۡیَوۡمَ اَکۡمَلۡتُ لَکُمۡ دِیۡنَکُمۡ وَ اَتۡمَمۡتُ عَلَیۡکُمۡ نِعۡمَتِیۡ وَ رَضِیۡتُ لَکُمُ الۡاِسۡلَامَ دِیۡنًا ؕ فَمَنِ اضۡطُرَّ فِیۡ مَخۡمَصَۃٍ غَیۡرَ مُتَجَانِفٍ لِّاِثۡمٍ ۙ فَاِنَّ اللّٰہَ غَفُوۡرٌ رَّحِیۡمٌ ﴿۳﴾

Forbidden to you is carrion (the animal that dies and is not slaughtered according to Islamic law) and (the discharged) blood and pork and that (animal) on which the name of someone other than Allah has been invoked whilst slaughtering and (the animal) that dies by strangling or by a violent blow (not by any sharp instrument) or by falling from a height or the one that has been gored to death or which has been ripped apart and gnawed by a wild beast, save the one which you slaughter (before it dies), and (that animal too is forbidden) which has been slaughtered on idolatrous altars (dedicated to false gods). And this (is also unlawful) that you learn your fortune through divining (with arrows or divide shares by such means). All these works are sins. This day, the disbelievers have lost all hopes of (their heinous designs because) your Din ([Religion] has prevailed). So, (O believers,) fear them not and always fear Me alone. Today I have perfected your Din (Religion) for you, and have completed My Blessing upon you, and have chosen for you Islam (as) Din (a complete code of life). Then if someone gets into a survival situation (and is forced by) ravenous hunger (and intense thirst i.e., driven by dire necessity, provided) he is not prone to sinning (i.e., eats what is forbidden without being wilfully inclined to sin), then Allah is indeed Most Forgiving, Ever-Merciful.

sagenaija:
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Just to answer simple questions enilove asks seem difficult for you.
All you do is resort to quoting the Koran. Even when it doesn't answer the question. You appear to have turned the Koran into a TALISMAN hoping that it will do the work for you. Is the Koran a talisman to you?

It's so difficult for you guys to use reasoning to answer because you are running away from the truth and reality of Islam.

When you face the truth about Islam you know it doesn't hold water. So you resort to ESCAPISM as a defense mechanism to hide from confronting the reality.

You claim that Allah is the one speaking throughout the Koran. And here are statements that CLEARLY do not line up with that claim. And instead of owning up to the flaws in the Koran you resort to running away from confronting the questions.

What a shame!

I know @enilove has his answers to every question he asks. He can also interprets the Qur'an and Hadith- however misguidedly.
I answered to show he is delusional.

Allah is not on trial so you cannot determine how Allah should speak.
Allah can choose to speak the way he likes (1person, 2person, 3person, metaphorical, allegorical etc).
It can only make sense to you if you believe in Allah.

[46:31] Al-Aḥqāf-الْأَحْقَاف
"یٰقَوۡمَنَاۤ اَجِیۡبُوۡا دَاعِیَ اللّٰہِ وَ اٰمِنُوۡا بِہٖ یَغۡفِرۡ لَکُمۡ مِّنۡ ذُنُوۡبِکُمۡ وَیُجِرۡکُمۡ مِّنۡ عَذَابٍ اَلِیۡمٍ ﴿۳۱﴾

O our people! Accept the call of the Caller (the Holy Prophet Muhammad [blessings and peace be upon him]) to Allah and believe in him. Allah will then forgive your sins and save you from a painful punishment.
[46:32] Al-Aḥqāf-الْأَحْقَاف
"وَ مَنۡ لَّا یُجِبۡ دَاعِیَ اللّٰہِ فَلَیۡسَ بِمُعۡجِزٍ فِی الۡاَرۡضِ وَ لَیۡسَ لَہٗ مِنۡ دُوۡنِہٖۤ اَوۡلِیَآءُ ؕ اُولٰٓئِکَ فِیۡ ضَلٰلٍ مُّبِیۡنٍ ﴿۳۲﴾

And he who does not accept the call of the Caller (the Holy Prophet Muhammad [blessings and peace be upon him]) to Allah cannot thwart Allah (by running away) on earth. Nor will there be any helpers for him except Allah. It is they who are in open error.’
[46:33] Al-Aḥqāf-الْأَحْقَاف
"اَوَ لَمۡ یَرَوۡا اَنَّ اللّٰہَ الَّذِیۡ خَلَقَ السَّمٰوٰتِ وَ الۡاَرۡضَ وَ لَمۡ یَعۡیَ بِخَلۡقِہِنَّ بِقٰدِرٍ عَلٰۤی اَنۡ یُّحۡیَِۧ الۡمَوۡتٰی ؕ بَلٰۤی اِنَّہٗ عَلٰی کُلِّ شَیۡءٍ قَدِیۡرٌ ﴿۳۳﴾

Do they not know that Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth and was not tired by creating them, has (also) the power to bring the dead back to life (again)? Yes, of course, He has power over everything.

Ponder on Allah's words.

enilove:
Whose words are these above ?
How are you sure these are not man made revelations ?
How can you prove that Allah is not an idol of the ancestors of the quraysh ?

Read again.

If you can produce a similar evidence of man made revelation like it.

[2:2] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"ذٰلِکَ الۡکِتٰبُ لَا رَیۡبَ ۚۖۛ فِیۡہِ ۚۛ ہُدًی لِّلۡمُتَّقِیۡنَ ۙ﴿۲﴾

(This is) the Glorious Book in which there is no chance of doubt. (It is) a guide for those who guard against evil and fear Allah:
[2:3] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"الَّذِیۡنَ یُؤۡمِنُوۡنَ بِالۡغَیۡبِ وَ یُقِیۡمُوۡنَ الصَّلٰوۃَ وَ مِمَّا رَزَقۡنٰہُمۡ یُنۡفِقُوۡنَ ۙ﴿۳﴾

Those who believe in the unseen, and establish Prayer (fulfilling all its requisites) and spend (in Our way) out of what We have given them;
[2:4] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"وَ الَّذِیۡنَ یُؤۡمِنُوۡنَ بِمَاۤ اُنۡزِلَ اِلَیۡکَ وَ مَاۤ اُنۡزِلَ مِنۡ قَبۡلِکَ ۚ وَ بِالۡاٰخِرَۃِ ہُمۡ یُوۡقِنُوۡنَ ؕ﴿۴﴾

And those who believe in (all) that which has been revealed to you, and that which was revealed before you, and also have (perfect) faith in the Hereafter.
[2:5] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"اُولٰٓئِکَ عَلٰی ہُدًی مِّنۡ رَّبِّہِمۡ ٭ وَ اُولٰٓئِکَ ہُمُ الۡمُفۡلِحُوۡنَ ﴿۵﴾

It is they who follow guidance from their Lord, and it is they who shall achieve real success.
[2:6] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"اِنَّ الَّذِیۡنَ کَفَرُوۡا سَوَآءٌ عَلَیۡہِمۡ ءَاَنۡذَرۡتَہُمۡ اَمۡ لَمۡ تُنۡذِرۡہُمۡ لَا یُؤۡمِنُوۡنَ ﴿۶﴾

Verily, those who have adopted disbelief, it is the same for them whether you warn them or you warn them not, they will not believe.
[2:7] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"خَتَمَ اللّٰہُ عَلٰی قُلُوۡبِہِمۡ وَ عَلٰی سَمۡعِہِمۡ ؕ وَ عَلٰۤی اَبۡصَارِہِمۡ غِشَاوَۃٌ ۫ وَّ لَہُمۡ عَذَابٌ عَظِیۡمٌ ٪﴿۷﴾

Allah (as a result of their own choice) has set a seal on their hearts and their ears, and there is a blindfold (set) over their eyes. And for them there is a severe torment.

Hear Allah speaks relating to objects worship:

[39:1] Al-Zumar-الزُّمَر
"تَنۡزِیۡلُ الۡکِتٰبِ مِنَ اللّٰہِ الۡعَزِیۡزِ الۡحَکِیۡمِ ﴿۱﴾

The revelation of this Book is from Allah, the Lord of Honour, All-Wise.
[39:2] Al-Zumar-الزُّمَر
"اِنَّاۤ اَنۡزَلۡنَاۤ اِلَیۡکَ الۡکِتٰبَ بِالۡحَقِّ فَاعۡبُدِ اللّٰہَ مُخۡلِصًا لَّہُ الدِّیۡنَ ؕ﴿۲﴾

Surely, We have revealed (this) Book to you with the truth. So worship Allah for His sake alone in sincere obedience.
[39:3] Al-Zumar-الزُّمَر
"اَلَا لِلّٰہِ الدِّیۡنُ الۡخَالِصُ ؕ وَ الَّذِیۡنَ اتَّخَذُوۡا مِنۡ دُوۡنِہٖۤ اَوۡلِیَآءَ ۘ مَا نَعۡبُدُہُمۡ اِلَّا لِیُقَرِّبُوۡنَاۤ اِلَی اللّٰہِ زُلۡفٰی ؕ اِنَّ اللّٰہَ یَحۡکُمُ بَیۡنَہُمۡ فِیۡ مَا ہُمۡ فِیۡہِ یَخۡتَلِفُوۡنَ ۬ؕ اِنَّ اللّٰہَ لَا یَہۡدِیۡ مَنۡ ہُوَ کٰذِبٌ کَفَّارٌ ﴿۳﴾

(Say to the people ‘Listen! Sincere obedience and worship is only Allah’s due.’ And those (disbelievers) who have taken (idols as) helpers other than Allah (say in false justification of their idol-worship ‘We worship them only that they may bring us near to Allah.’ Surely, Allah will judge between them concerning the matter in which they differ. Certainly, Allah does not give guidance to the one who is a liar and highly ungrateful.
[39:4] Al-Zumar-الزُّمَر
"لَوۡ اَرَادَ اللّٰہُ اَنۡ یَّتَّخِذَ وَلَدًا لَّاصۡطَفٰی مِمَّا یَخۡلُقُ مَا یَشَآءُ ۙ سُبۡحٰنَہٗ ؕ ہُوَ اللّٰہُ الۡوَاحِدُ الۡقَہَّارُ ﴿۴﴾

Had Allah willed to beget children (for Himself), He would have chosen whom He liked out of His Creation. Glory be to Him, He is Allah, the One, the All-Dominant.
[39:5] Al-Zumar-الزُّمَر
"خَلَقَ السَّمٰوٰتِ وَ الۡاَرۡضَ بِالۡحَقِّ ۚ یُکَوِّرُ الَّیۡلَ عَلَی النَّہَارِ وَ یُکَوِّرُ النَّہَارَ عَلَی الَّیۡلِ وَ سَخَّرَ الشَّمۡسَ وَ الۡقَمَرَ ؕ کُلٌّ یَّجۡرِیۡ لِاَجَلٍ مُّسَمًّی ؕ اَلَا ہُوَ الۡعَزِیۡزُ الۡغَفَّارُ ﴿۵﴾

He created the heavens and the earth with a decreed celestial order and planning. He causes the night to overlap the day and the day to overlap the night. And He is the One Who has subjected the sun and the moon (to a system). Each (star and planet) rotates in its orbit till an appointed time. Beware! He is the One Who is All-Dominant (over the entire system), the Most Forgiving.
[39:6] Al-Zumar-الزُّمَر
"خَلَقَکُمۡ مِّنۡ نَّفۡسٍ وَّاحِدَۃٍ ثُمَّ جَعَلَ مِنۡہَا زَوۡجَہَا وَ اَنۡزَلَ لَکُمۡ مِّنَ الۡاَنۡعَامِ ثَمٰنِیَۃَ اَزۡوَاجٍ ؕ یَخۡلُقُکُمۡ فِیۡ بُطُوۡنِ اُمَّہٰتِکُمۡ خَلۡقًا مِّنۡۢ بَعۡدِ خَلۡقٍ فِیۡ ظُلُمٰتٍ ثَلٰثٍ ؕ ذٰلِکُمُ اللّٰہُ رَبُّکُمۡ لَہُ الۡمُلۡکُ ؕ لَاۤ اِلٰہَ اِلَّا ہُوَ ۚ فَاَنّٰی تُصۡرَفُوۡنَ ﴿۶﴾

He has created all of you from a single life cell, and then made from it a similar pair. And then He brought about for you eight living animals in pairs. He shapes you in the wombs of your mothers from one creative phase into the next in sequence and (completes this process) in three (germinal) layers. This is Allah, your Lord, to Whom belongs all Power and Authority. There is no God except He. Where then are you deviated (and disoriented after knowing these concealed realities of creation)?
[39:7] Al-Zumar-الزُّمَر
"اِنۡ تَکۡفُرُوۡا فَاِنَّ اللّٰہَ غَنِیٌّ عَنۡکُمۡ ۟ وَ لَا یَرۡضٰی لِعِبَادِہِ الۡکُفۡرَ ۚ وَ اِنۡ تَشۡکُرُوۡا یَرۡضَہُ لَکُمۡ ؕ وَ لَا تَزِرُ وَازِرَۃٌ وِّزۡرَ اُخۡرٰی ؕ ثُمَّ اِلٰی رَبِّکُمۡ مَّرۡجِعُکُمۡ فَیُنَبِّئُکُمۡ بِمَا کُنۡتُمۡ تَعۡمَلُوۡنَ ؕ اِنَّہٗ عَلِیۡمٌۢ بِذَاتِ الصُّدُوۡرِ ﴿۷﴾

If you disbelieve, then surely Allah is Self-Sufficient and He does not like disbelief (and ingratitude) for His servants, and if you give thanks, (so) He likes that for you. And no bearer of burden will bear the burden of any other. Then you have to return to your Lord. Then He will inform you of the deeds which you used to do. Surely, He knows best the secrets of the hearts.
[39:8] Al-Zumar-الزُّمَر
"وَ اِذَا مَسَّ الۡاِنۡسَانَ ضُرٌّ دَعَا رَبَّہٗ مُنِیۡبًا اِلَیۡہِ ثُمَّ اِذَا خَوَّلَہٗ نِعۡمَۃً مِّنۡہُ نَسِیَ مَا کَانَ یَدۡعُوۡۤا اِلَیۡہِ مِنۡ قَبۡلُ وَ جَعَلَ لِلّٰہِ اَنۡدَادًا لِّیُضِلَّ عَنۡ سَبِیۡلِہٖ ؕ قُلۡ تَمَتَّعۡ بِکُفۡرِکَ قَلِیۡلًا ٭ۖ اِنَّکَ مِنۡ اَصۡحٰبِ النَّارِ ﴿۸﴾

And when some suffering afflicts man, he turns to his Lord and cries out. Then when (Allah) grants him some blessing from Himself, he forgets that (suffering) which he used to beseech relief from. And (then) he sets up (idols) as partners with Allah to make (others also) lose His way. Say: ‘(O disbeliever,) profit a little (worldly gain) from your disbelief; you are certainly of the inmates of Hell.
[39:9] Al-Zumar-الزُّمَر
"اَمَّنۡ ہُوَ قَانِتٌ اٰنَآءَ الَّیۡلِ سَاجِدًا وَّ قَآئِمًا یَّحۡذَرُ الۡاٰخِرَۃَ وَ یَرۡجُوۡا رَحۡمَۃَ رَبِّہٖ ؕ قُلۡ ہَلۡ یَسۡتَوِی الَّذِیۡنَ یَعۡلَمُوۡنَ وَ الَّذِیۡنَ لَا یَعۡلَمُوۡنَ ؕ اِنَّمَا یَتَذَکَّرُ اُولُوا الۡاَلۡبَابِ ٪﴿۹﴾

Well! (Is this polytheist better or) that (believer) who worships during the hours of the night standing and in prostration, lives in fear of the Hereafter and expects mercy from his Lord?’ Say: ‘Can those who have knowledge and those who do not be alike?’ So only the wise do receive the admonition.


[39:15] Al-Zumar-الزُّمَر
"فَاعۡبُدُوۡا مَا شِئۡتُمۡ مِّنۡ دُوۡنِہٖ ؕ قُلۡ اِنَّ الۡخٰسِرِیۡنَ الَّذِیۡنَ خَسِرُوۡۤا اَنۡفُسَہُمۡ وَ اَہۡلِیۡہِمۡ یَوۡمَ الۡقِیٰمَۃِ ؕ اَلَا ذٰلِکَ ہُوَ الۡخُسۡرَانُ الۡمُبِیۡنُ ﴿۱۵﴾

So worship what you like besides Allah.’ Say: ‘Surely, losers are only those who will bring loss to their own souls and their families on the Day of Resurrection. Remember! That truly is the manifest loss.

I hope these help you.

MaxInDHouse:
God forbids eating of some animals because it's not easy to lay them down for slaughter and God doesn't want us to eat the flesh along with it's blood {Genesis 9:4; Leviticus 17:11, 14} but after Christians have fully understood that eating the blood along with the flesh is unhealthy habit God asked Christians to eat all kinds of meat with their discretion! Act 10:9-15

However when i was still practicing Islam i noticed that Muslims do bled the animals before eating it which coincide with what the Bible teaches but what baffles me is that this same people will later pack the blood of animals in one big bowl allow it to solidify and later cook and eat!

Please why removing the blood in the first place?
Because according to the Bible the reason for not eating dead animals is because the blood was not separated from it's body!

Every practicing Muslim should know that eating blood in any form is haram. You should also have known that.

enilove:
The above means Allah himself will go to hell for associating others with himself :

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

لَوْ أَرَدْنَآ أَنْ نَّتَّخِذَ لَهْوًا لَّاتَّخَذْنٰهُ مِنْ لَّدُنَّآ إِنْ كُنَّا فٰعِلِينَ
"Had We intended to take a diversion, We could have taken it from [what is] with Us - if [indeed] We were to do so."
(QS. Al-Anbiyaa 21: Verse 17)

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

ثُمَّ خَلَقْنَا النُّطْفَةَ عَلَقَةً فَخَلَقْنَا الْعَلَقَةَ مُضْغَةً فَخَلَقْنَا الْمُضْغَةَ عِظٰمًا فَكَسَوْنَا الْعِظٰمَ لَحْمًا ثُمَّ أَنْشَأْنٰهُ خَلْقًا ءَاخَرَ  ۚ فَتَبَارَكَ اللَّهُ أَحْسَنُ الْخٰلِقِينَ
"Then We made the sperm-drop into a clinging clot, and We made the clot into a lump [of flesh], and We made [from] the lump, bones, and We covered the bones with flesh; then We developed him into another creation. So blessed is Allah, THE BEST OF CREATORS."
(QS. Al-Muminoon 23: Verse 14)

ALLAH COULD TAKE PARNER FROM ''US''. WHO ARE THE US ? This tells you there are other beings like him.

In surah 23:14 , Allah knows he is not a creator because our God is the only Creator.

To say best of creators means there are other creators competing with Allah.
This means Allah associated other creators with himself and he is a liar .

[2:255] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"اَللّٰہُ لَاۤ اِلٰہَ اِلَّا ہُوَۚ اَلۡحَیُّ الۡقَیُّوۡمُ ۬ۚ لَا تَاۡخُذُہٗ سِنَۃٌ وَّ لَا نَوۡمٌ ؕ لَہٗ مَا فِی السَّمٰوٰتِ وَ مَا فِی الۡاَرۡضِ ؕ مَنۡ ذَا الَّذِیۡ یَشۡفَعُ عِنۡدَہٗۤ اِلَّا بِاِذۡنِہٖ ؕ یَعۡلَمُ مَا بَیۡنَ اَیۡدِیۡہِمۡ وَ مَا خَلۡفَہُمۡ ۚ وَ لَا یُحِیۡطُوۡنَ بِشَیۡءٍ مِّنۡ عِلۡمِہٖۤ اِلَّا بِمَا شَآءَ ۚ وَسِعَ کُرۡسِیُّہُ السَّمٰوٰتِ وَ الۡاَرۡضَ ۚ وَ لَا یَـُٔوۡدُہٗ حِفۡظُہُمَا ۚ وَ ہُوَ الۡعَلِیُّ الۡعَظِیۡمُ ﴿۲۵۵﴾

Allah! None is worthy of worship but He, the Ever-Living, the Self-Subsisting, the One Who sustains and protects (the entire universe with His strategy). He is seized by neither slumber nor sleep. Whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth belongs to Him alone. Who can dare intercede with Him except by His permission? (He) knows all that is (happening or has happened) before the Creation, and all that is (about to happen) after them; and they cannot encompass anything of His knowledge except that which He wills. His Throne (of Empire and Power and Authority) encompasses the heavens and the earth, and the protection of both (the earth and the heavens) does not pose Him any difficulty. And He alone is Most High, Most Great.

[112:1] Al-Ikhlāṣ-الْإِخْلاَص
"قُلۡ ہُوَ اللّٰہُ اَحَدٌ ۚ﴿۱﴾

(O Esteemed Messenger!) Proclaim: ‘He is Allah, Who is the One.
[112:2] Al-Ikhlāṣ-الْإِخْلاَص
"اَللّٰہُ الصَّمَدُ ۚ﴿۲﴾

Allah is the Transcendent of all, the Protector and Far-Superior to all.

[112:3] Al-Ikhlāṣ-الْإِخْلاَص
"لَمۡ یَلِدۡ ۬ۙ وَ لَمۡ یُوۡلَدۡ ۙ﴿۳﴾

He has not begotten any, nor is He begotten.

[112:4] Al-Ikhlāṣ-الْإِخْلاَص
"وَ لَمۡ یَکُنۡ لَّہٗ کُفُوًا اَحَدٌ ٪﴿۴﴾

Nor is there anyone equal to Him.’

Islamisation of Nigeria?

Truly Trinitarians are feeling insecure. I can understand. 2023 is around the corners.

This doesn't sound like the superhero Jesus Trinitarians brag about. This one seems to have been humbled. He also sounds insecure like his sheeple. LNGKMD!

I believe Nigeria is safely in the hands of Allah SWT. There is nothing any Trinity or a member of the Trinity can do about it.

Though it is good to prayer for Nigeria, especially at this trying times, when the crusaders are running riots in the south east and the boko harams and bandits are overwhelming the north.
There is a sincere need for prayers.

As for We the Believers, No shaking Insha Allah. Allah Promises us:

[41:30] Fuṣṣilat/Ha-Mim Sajdah-فُصِّلَت/حٰم السَّجْدَة
"اِنَّ الَّذِیۡنَ قَالُوۡا رَبُّنَا اللّٰہُ ثُمَّ اسۡتَقَامُوۡا تَتَنَزَّلُ عَلَیۡہِمُ الۡمَلٰٓئِکَۃُ اَلَّا تَخَافُوۡا وَ لَا تَحۡزَنُوۡا وَ اَبۡشِرُوۡا بِالۡجَنَّۃِ الَّتِیۡ کُنۡتُمۡ تُوۡعَدُوۡنَ ﴿۳۰﴾

Surely, those who say: ‘Our Lord is Allah,’ then stick to it (firmly), angels descend upon them (and say ‘Do not fear or grieve, and rejoice in the Paradise that you were promised.

[41:31] Fuṣṣilat/Ha-Mim Sajdah-فُصِّلَت/حٰم السَّجْدَة
"نَحۡنُ اَوۡلِیٰٓؤُکُمۡ فِی الۡحَیٰوۃِ الدُّنۡیَا وَ فِی الۡاٰخِرَۃِ ۚ وَ لَکُمۡ فِیۡہَا مَا تَشۡتَہِیۡۤ اَنۡفُسُکُمۡ وَ لَکُمۡ فِیۡہَا مَا تَدَّعُوۡنَ ﴿ؕ۳۱﴾

We are your friends and helpers in the life of this world and in the Hereafter (too). And there is for you every blessing that you long for. And all those things that you ask for are (available) for you there.

[41:32] Fuṣṣilat/Ha-Mim Sajdah-فُصِّلَت/حٰم السَّجْدَة
"نُزُلًا مِّنۡ غَفُوۡرٍ رَّحِیۡمٍ ﴿٪۳۲﴾

(This) is hospitality from the Most Forgiving, Ever-Merciful (Lord).’

Allahu Akbar!

enilove:
It is unfortunate that you Muslims dont reason despite the truth presented to you from your books.
Did you consider what @sagenaija posted ? I am sure you didn't , if not , you would have debunked him .

The truth you know is what will set you free and the truth known too late is disastrous.

What does a Trinitarian know about The Truth? Absolutely nothing.

[37:162] Al-Ṣaffāt-الصَّافَّات
"مَاۤ اَنۡتُمۡ عَلَیۡہِ بِفٰتِنِیۡنَ ﴿۱۶۲﴾ۙ
You all cannot misguide (anyone against Allah),
[37:163] Al-Ṣaffāt-الصَّافَّات
"اِلَّا مَنۡ ہُوَ صَالِ الۡجَحِیۡمِ ﴿۱۶۳﴾
Except the one who is bound to fall into Hell.

sagenaija:
Note again that Allah didn't 'Say as follows Oh my slaves: ......' . Nothing to that effect. These are the direct words of Allah saying the statement in the first person.

So, if we go with the same logic, when we get to verse 5 of the same portion it says "It is You we worship and You we ask for help." Is Allah worshipping Allah? Because Allah, speaking here, is SAYING 'It is you we worship.......'.

And in verse 6 "Guide us to the straight path" who is Allah asking for guidance?

Continue misguiding the already misguided.

nairalee:
1) He made insensitive statements like saying "If Jesus criticizes Jonathan’s govt, Maku/Abati/Okupe will say he slept with Mary Madgalene.”….LWKMD..." Knowing fully well that a Christian cannot make such a reference with Prophet Muhammed

2) Against the norm he selected a Muslim as his running mate so we have Muslim as governor and Muslim as deputy governor in kd

3) Killings and kidnappings are taking place in Southern Kaduna on daily basis without any solution and it's even hushed, u Don't hear it on the news anymore

4) His son made a rather unsavory comment against Igbo mothers yet he's shielded and not even tried for hate speech

5) After criticizing Jonathan for inability to rescue chibok girls, now it's he's turn and he's vowed never to negotiate with bandits thereby infuriating the bandits and now they seem to be daring him.

Worse things are said against Allah, the Prophet and Muslims on this forum.

ANTIlSLAM:
MANY, not just one




So you're happy that Leah refused to renounce Christianity and Her Messiah Jesus Christ? Indeed you're a bloody slave

Shey Na Gamepad you dey use to fight against Christians thereby saying all sort of ludicrous trash? Brainwashed element, sorry is ur name

Any battle against Islam, I laugh is Spanish your fellow slaves that are fighting Israeli forces, shey your alfa, imam, sheikh, tell u say dem won? Don't tell me you just came back from Sahara desert

Sincerely, My heart goes for Leah Sheribu.
Again I think Trinity, the gods of signs and wonders failed a faithful daughter of theirs.


Which war Israeli won?

Stop spreading lies from the pulpits.

..."Israel feared a massive military defeat and so called on America for aid. Initially, America refused so Israel threatened to use its nuclear weapons, this threat was enough to persuade President Richard Nixon to send aid to Israel."

Even with USA assistance they still didn't win the war.

Though, Syria is not happy with the war cos they believe they could have done better, while Israel got a truss, which saved their butts.

The biggest lesson was for Israeli- Never take the Muslims for granted no matter your military might.

ANTIlSLAM:
You're spreading by striking the necks of innocent souls just because of allah that has eyes but couldn't see, he has mouth but couldn't speak and at the end, 72 houris shall welcome you to sex garden

Do you know any one that his neck was struck because he refuse Islam?

Even your Lear Sheribu- hope you know say na Jesus pikin, wey una dey use collect tithe, still dey with boko haram dey born children for dem. At least we no hear say dem kill her.

Since the miracle of Trinity and Trinitarians no fit rescue her from boko haram, una for call the other of una deities - USA and Israel, to help rescue her.

Dey here dey fight war with Islam using keyboard abi na keypad self.

Any battle against Islam is a lost battle.

ANTIlSLAM:
You just finish your messenger with this your taqqiya, sultan of sokoto must check your brain thoroughly

Trinitarians can Continue with their masturbation.

Islam continue to spread. It is a promise from Allah and it is manifesting.

No crusade can stop Islam. Talk less of keyboard warriors.

[61:9] Al-Ṣaff-الصَّفّ
"ہُوَ الَّذِیۡۤ اَرۡسَلَ رَسُوۡلَہٗ بِالۡہُدٰی وَ دِیۡنِ الۡحَقِّ لِیُظۡہِرَہٗ عَلَی الدِّیۡنِ کُلِّہٖ وَ لَوۡ کَرِہَ الۡمُشۡرِکُوۡنَ ٪﴿۹﴾

He is the One Who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the Din (Religion) of truth so that He may make it dominate and prevail over all other religions, even though the idolaters may hate it much.

Salallahu Alaihi Was Salam!

Baawahala:
You hardly see terrorists being devoted Christians, but most terrorists are devoted Muslims.
They are can pray 50 times even in a day that they kill 50 people. They stay in their place of worship(crime),to plan evil and spread hatred.
They are skeptical about western education because they fear it will expose their people to know what is good and what is bad.
I wonder the kind of god they worship.
I am certain they are not worshiping Almighty God.
Religion of violence. Check all countries where there is no peace,you must find Islam..They don't love peace.
You can only talk trash,but deep down you,you know I am saying the truth.

Peace is a product of Justice. There can be no peace without Justice and Islam abhor injustice.

[4:135] Al-Nisā-النِّسَآء
"یٰۤاَیُّہَا الَّذِیۡنَ اٰمَنُوۡا کُوۡنُوۡا قَوّٰمِیۡنَ بِالۡقِسۡطِ شُہَدَآءَ لِلّٰہِ وَ لَوۡ عَلٰۤی اَنۡفُسِکُمۡ اَوِ الۡوَالِدَیۡنِ وَ الۡاَقۡرَبِیۡنَ ۚ اِنۡ یَّکُنۡ غَنِیًّا اَوۡ فَقِیۡرًا فَاللّٰہُ اَوۡلٰی بِہِمَا ۟ فَلَا تَتَّبِعُوا الۡہَوٰۤی اَنۡ تَعۡدِلُوۡا ۚ وَ اِنۡ تَلۡوٗۤا اَوۡ تُعۡرِضُوۡا فَاِنَّ اللّٰہَ کَانَ بِمَا تَعۡمَلُوۡنَ خَبِیۡرًا ﴿۱۳۵﴾

O believers! Become tenaciously firm on justice, bearing witness (merely) for the sake of Allah even if (the witness) is against your own selves or (your) parents or (your) relatives. Whether the person (against whom is the evidence) is rich or poor, Allah is a greater Well-Wisher of them both (than you are). So do not follow the desires of your (ill-commanding) selves lest you swerve from justice. But if (whilst giving evidence) you twist your statement or evade (the truth), then Allah is indeed Well Aware of (all the works) that you are doing.

[16:90] Al-Naḥl-النَّحْل
"اِنَّ اللّٰہَ یَاۡمُرُ بِالۡعَدۡلِ وَ الۡاِحۡسَانِ وَ اِیۡتَآیِٔ ذِی الۡقُرۡبٰی وَ یَنۡہٰی عَنِ الۡفَحۡشَآءِ وَ الۡمُنۡکَرِ وَ الۡبَغۡیِ ۚ یَعِظُکُمۡ لَعَلَّکُمۡ تَذَکَّرُوۡنَ ﴿۹۰﴾

Indeed, Allah enjoins justice and benevolence (towards everyone), and giving away to the kindred, and forbids indecency, evil deeds, defiance and disobedience. He admonishes you so that you may remember with concern.

smallsmall:
That is the Key to the whole puzzle!
Knowledge is Power, Ignorance is Bliss.
The Yoruba Muslim love to live in Bliss, thinking he is worshiping the same Allah and counted as Equal before that Allah, with his Northern Nigeria Muslim, who also wish they are counted as Equal before that Allah, with their Arabic Masters in Saudi Arabia, who also wish that their Mohammed can be equal to Jesus Christ and their Allah equated to God the Most High!

You see, this is how the grand delusion goes round and round.

This is Allah! The Muslim God:

[2:255] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"اَللّٰہُ لَاۤ اِلٰہَ اِلَّا ہُوَۚ اَلۡحَیُّ الۡقَیُّوۡمُ ۬ۚ لَا تَاۡخُذُہٗ سِنَۃٌ وَّ لَا نَوۡمٌ ؕ لَہٗ مَا فِی السَّمٰوٰتِ وَ مَا فِی الۡاَرۡضِ ؕ مَنۡ ذَا الَّذِیۡ یَشۡفَعُ عِنۡدَہٗۤ اِلَّا بِاِذۡنِہٖ ؕ یَعۡلَمُ مَا بَیۡنَ اَیۡدِیۡہِمۡ وَ مَا خَلۡفَہُمۡ ۚ وَ لَا یُحِیۡطُوۡنَ بِشَیۡءٍ مِّنۡ عِلۡمِہٖۤ اِلَّا بِمَا شَآءَ ۚ وَسِعَ کُرۡسِیُّہُ السَّمٰوٰتِ وَ الۡاَرۡضَ ۚ وَ لَا یَـُٔوۡدُہٗ حِفۡظُہُمَا ۚ وَ ہُوَ الۡعَلِیُّ الۡعَظِیۡمُ ﴿۲۵۵﴾

Allah! None is worthy of worship but He, the Ever-Living, the Self-Subsisting, the One Who sustains and protects (the entire universe with His strategy). He is seized by neither slumber nor sleep. Whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth belongs to Him alone. Who can dare intercede with Him except by His permission? (He) knows all that is (happening or has happened) before the Creation, and all that is (about to happen) after them; and they cannot encompass anything of His knowledge except that which He wills. His Throne (of Empire and Power and Authority) encompasses the heavens and the earth, and the protection of both (the earth and the heavens) does not pose Him any difficulty. And He alone is Most High, Most Great.


Where is your god?

Akwamkpuruamu:
Until a Southerner have the rights to sight the moon and declare Ramadan or other Islamic practices, all these are mere aberration.

A Trinitarian sited!

Wetin concern u?

Officialhorlah:
https://punchng.com/may-day-workers-conditions-have-worsened-under-buhari-say-ASUU-atiku/

God bless Nigerian Workers.

enilove:
You first denied that Islam was spread by killings and you asked for evidence .Now that I have given the evidence from you books , you now take rendezvous in ''Trinitarian Christians are always looking for ways to end Islam.''

Why are you Muslims not sincere ?
Islam came after Christianity and bad mouthed the other religions before it . It came and started killing the Christians and the Jews who were living peacefully together before it started.

What do you expect the Christians to do ? Allow the evil done against them to continue or fight back ? When does it become an evil to defend yourself ?

Secondly , you fail to understand who God is.
In the old testament , God commanded the Israelites to take over the land which he promised Abraham .
They killed the inhabitants because they were Idol worshipers who were serving the devil.
After taking over the land , they remained in that land and did not leave their land to spread their religion. Unlike Islam who are killing people to spread their religion.

Thirdly , Christianity is not Judaism. The God of the Jews did not kill people to spread Judaism likewise Christians.
If Israel had the intention to destroy the whole of middle east , they would have done that easily, but that was not God's instructions to them. They were instructed to wait for the Messiah , Jesus Christ , who will tell them what to do. Moses specifically told them this.

Africans , American , Asians , Europeans , etc have historical records of killings for possession of lands at one time or the other.
This is not different from that of the Israelites. It was not to force people to accept a religion.
It is only in Islam that this evil was carried out.

Like you said the hadith to fight and kill to spread Islam is still valid.
For your information , no one is stopping you Muslims from doing so , but the problem is that your successors will still come one day to lie against us for defending ourselves.
ISIS have failed .Hesbolah , Boko Haram , Osama bin Ladin etc are failing without much reprisals. When your cups are full , you will regret following your wicked Muhammad.

To defend yourself against an evil one is not the same as spreading of religion. Signs and wonders are to convince unbeliever that there is God. But to defend , you must be ready to destroy those who wants to destroy you.
They are two different things.

Lastly , whether people believed Jesus in his hometown or not , that name has brought many to know God , after his death through spread of the gospel by preaching of love of God and not by spread hatred and killings engineered by the devil .

Like I asked earlier, how do you know Muhammad was a true prophet of God ?

If Alexandra the great had wanted to spread the idolatry of his ancestors , many would have been worshiping it by now.

Give a good reason why people should believe Muhammad.

If God can command the Israelites to kill the inhabitants to claim their land and you don't find anything wrong with it, who are you to question Allah if He decides same for the Muslims in any guise?

How could God command to the Israelites not be religious?

Anyways, give the same excuse, if any for Allah too.

enilove:
Let's forget about the above and consider another area of Islam which is critical.

The Quran claims that the God of the Bible is the same God of Muhammad .
If this statement is correct , why are there so much differences between the God of the Bible and Allah.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him.""
(QS. Al-Ankaboot 29: Verse 46)

Let's consider the differences .

The Quran made us to understand that this world systems of evils like corruption, killings , adultery , sudden death , afflictions like insanity, stealings , witchcraft, the woes that are befalling humanity were all the works of Allah .

And that Adam started existing in heaven before Allah sent him down to the earth.

Hadith
Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Adam and Moses met, and Moses said to Adam "You are the one who made people miserable and turned them out of Paradise." Adam said to him, "You are the one whom Allah selected for His message and whom He selected for Himself and upon whom He revealed the Torah." Moses said, 'Yes.' Adam said, "Did you find that written in my fate before my creation?' Moses said, 'Yes.' So Adam overcame Moses with this argument."

Sahih al-Bukhari
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 260
Arabic : Book 65, Hadith 4736
Sahih Bukhari

By this , the Qur'an is presenting God as evil.

But this is not the case with the Bible.

WHY THESE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ?
DO YOU BELIEVE THIS ?

There are differences cos the Allah is Absolute!

[112:1] Al-Ikhlāṣ-الْإِخْلاَص
"قُلۡ ہُوَ اللّٰہُ اَحَدٌ ۚ﴿۱﴾

(O Esteemed Messenger!) Proclaim: ‘He is Allah, Who is the One.

[112:2] Al-Ikhlāṣ-الْإِخْلاَص
"اَللّٰہُ الصَّمَدُ ۚ﴿۲﴾

Allah is the Transcendent of all, the Protector and Far-Superior to all.
[112:3] Al-Ikhlāṣ-الْإِخْلاَص
"لَمۡ یَلِدۡ ۬ۙ وَ لَمۡ یُوۡلَدۡ ۙ﴿۳﴾

He has not begotten any, nor is He begotten.

[112:4] Al-Ikhlāṣ-الْإِخْلاَص
"وَ لَمۡ یَکُنۡ لَّہٗ کُفُوًا اَحَدٌ ٪﴿۴﴾

Nor is there anyone equal to Him.’

While the God of the Christians is a Trinity.

Allah warned:
[2:165] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"وَ مِنَ النَّاسِ مَنۡ یَّتَّخِذُ مِنۡ دُوۡنِ اللّٰہِ اَنۡدَادًا یُّحِبُّوۡنَہُمۡ کَحُبِّ اللّٰہِ ؕ وَ الَّذِیۡنَ اٰمَنُوۡۤا اَشَدُّ حُبًّا لِّلّٰہِ ؕوَ لَوۡ یَرَی الَّذِیۡنَ ظَلَمُوۡۤا اِذۡ یَرَوۡنَ الۡعَذَابَ ۙ اَنَّ الۡقُوَّۃَ لِلّٰہِ جَمِیۡعًا ۙ وَّ اَنَّ اللّٰہَ شَدِیۡدُ الۡعَذَابِ ﴿۱۶۵﴾

And there are some amongst the people who take others besides Allah as His partners and love them as it is Allah’s due alone. But those who believe love Allah the most (far more intensely than anyone else). And if these wrongdoers happen to see that time when the torment (of the Last Day) will be before their eyes (then they will become aware) that the Master of all the forces is Allah. And certainly Allah is severe in punishment.

I don't know how the verse you quoted relates to Allah responsible for evil.
But, Allah is aware of all your machinations:

[22:51] Al-Ḥajj-الْحَجّ
"وَ الَّذِیۡنَ سَعَوۡا فِیۡۤ اٰیٰتِنَا مُعٰجِزِیۡنَ اُولٰٓئِکَ اَصۡحٰبُ الۡجَحِیۡمِ ﴿۵۱﴾

And those who strive in (refuting) Our Verses with the idea to frustrate (Us), it is they who are the inmates of Hell.

[22:55] Al-Ḥajj-الْحَجّ
"وَ لَا یَزَالُ الَّذِیۡنَ کَفَرُوۡا فِیۡ مِرۡیَۃٍ مِّنۡہُ حَتّٰی تَاۡتِیَہُمُ السَّاعَۃُ بَغۡتَۃً اَوۡ یَاۡتِیَہُمۡ عَذَابُ یَوۡمٍ عَقِیۡمٍ ﴿۵۵﴾

And the disbelievers will always remain in doubt about this (Holy Qur’an) until the Last Hour comes suddenly upon them, or the torment of the Day from which salvation is least possible.

[14:42] Ibrāhīm-إِبْرَاهِيْم
"وَ لَا تَحۡسَبَنَّ اللّٰہَ غَافِلًا عَمَّا یَعۡمَلُ الظّٰلِمُوۡنَ ۬ؕ اِنَّمَا یُؤَخِّرُہُمۡ لِیَوۡمٍ تَشۡخَصُ فِیۡہِ الۡاَبۡصَارُ ﴿ۙ۴۲﴾

And never think of Allah to be unaware of the works the wrongdoers are doing. He is only giving them (the wrongdoers) respite till the Day on which the eyes will be stare-fixed (in horror).

Allah is only permitting to do and say what you are doing, until the appointed time for you.

Allah only grant respite to the evil ones.


My questions:

Do you know any Trinitarian or other around you, that was killed because he refused to accept Islam?
Has any Muslim threatened to kill you if you don't accept Islam? Did you accept Islam? Are you still a Muslim? Why are you still alive if you are not a Muslim?

advocatejare:
I have heard this statement that Jesus was a Muslim several times.

It's a true statement if being a Muslim means submitting to the only true God called Yahweh

Jesus was a Muslim if only the God he submitted to is Yahweh.

Jesus submitted to Yahweh, the Jews submitted to Yahweh. God of Israel reveal himself as Yahweh, and never as Allah. Allah is a moon idol.

Moses prophesied that the Prophet he was referring to would speak in the name of the same God that appeared to Moses.



Muslims say that Moses prophesied about muhammad. Is this true?

Yahweh gave Moses 10 commandments, the first of which is that Moses and Israel should not have any other god besides Yahweh, Muhammad broke that law and promoted Allah the idol of the Quraysh.

Yahweh said don't set up a graven image for yourself, Muhammad asked you to bow down to the Kaaba and to kiss the Blackstone

Yahweh said don't commit adultery, Muhammad took over the wife of Zaid his adopted son

Yahweh said you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, Muhammad coveted Zaid's wife...

And so on, muhammad broke all the laws of Yahweh which clearly shows that Muhammad was never a Muslim, if being a Muslim means submission to the will of Yahweh.

Jesus never spoke in the name of another god, Muhammad spoke in the name of Allah a pagan. So yes Jesus was a Muslim if being Muslim means submitting to Yahweh.

[61:9] Al-Ṣaff-الصَّفّ
"ہُوَ الَّذِیۡۤ اَرۡسَلَ رَسُوۡلَہٗ بِالۡہُدٰی وَ دِیۡنِ الۡحَقِّ لِیُظۡہِرَہٗ عَلَی الدِّیۡنِ کُلِّہٖ وَ لَوۡ کَرِہَ الۡمُشۡرِکُوۡنَ ٪﴿۹﴾

He is the One Who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the Din (Religion) of truth so that He may make it dominate and prevail over all other religions, even though the idolaters may hate it much.


[9:32] Al-Tawbah-التَّوْبَة
"یُرِیۡدُوۡنَ اَنۡ یُّطۡفِـُٔوۡا نُوۡرَ اللّٰہِ بِاَفۡوَاہِہِمۡ وَ یَاۡبَی اللّٰہُ اِلَّاۤ اَنۡ یُّتِمَّ نُوۡرَہٗ وَ لَوۡ کَرِہَ الۡکٰفِرُوۡنَ ﴿۳۲﴾

They desire to extinguish the Light of Allah by blowing through their mouths. And Allah rejects (it) but (wills) to manifest His Light to its fullness, even though the disbelievers dislike (it).


[3:64] Āl ‘Imrān-آل عِمْرَان
"قُلۡ یٰۤاَہۡلَ الۡکِتٰبِ تَعَالَوۡا اِلٰی کَلِمَۃٍ سَوَآءٍۢ بَیۡنَنَا وَ بَیۡنَکُمۡ اَلَّا نَعۡبُدَ اِلَّا اللّٰہَ وَ لَا نُشۡرِکَ بِہٖ شَیۡئًا وَّ لَا یَتَّخِذَ بَعۡضُنَا بَعۡضًا اَرۡبَابًا مِّنۡ دُوۡنِ اللّٰہِ ؕ فَاِنۡ تَوَلَّوۡا فَقُوۡلُوا اشۡہَدُوۡا بِاَنَّا مُسۡلِمُوۡنَ ﴿۶۴﴾

Say: ‘O People of the Book, come to that matter which is common between us and you (namely that): we shall worship none other than Allah, and we shall not associate any partner with Him. Nor shall anyone of us take one another as Lords apart from Allah. Then if they turn away, say: Bear witness that we are but Allah’s obedient servants (Muslims).’

[3:19] Āl ‘Imrān-آل عِمْرَان
"اِنَّ الدِّیۡنَ عِنۡدَ اللّٰہِ الۡاِسۡلَامُ ۟ وَ مَا اخۡتَلَفَ الَّذِیۡنَ اُوۡتُوا الۡکِتٰبَ اِلَّا مِنۡۢ بَعۡدِ مَا جَآءَہُمُ الۡعِلۡمُ بَغۡیًۢا بَیۡنَہُمۡ ؕ وَ مَنۡ یَّکۡفُرۡ بِاٰیٰتِ اللّٰہِ فَاِنَّ اللّٰہَ سَرِیۡعُ الۡحِسَابِ ﴿۱۹﴾

Truly, Islam is the only Din (Religion) in Allah’s sight. And the People of the Book disagreed, after knowledge had come to them, only on account of their mutual jealousy and contention. And he who denies Allah’s revelations, then surely Allah hastens in calling to account.

[3:20] Āl ‘Imrān-آل عِمْرَان
"فَاِنۡ حَآجُّوۡکَ فَقُلۡ اَسۡلَمۡتُ وَجۡہِیَ لِلّٰہِ وَ مَنِ اتَّبَعَنِ ؕ وَ قُلۡ لِّلَّذِیۡنَ اُوۡتُوا الۡکِتٰبَ وَ الۡاُمِّیّٖنَ ءَاَسۡلَمۡتُمۡ ؕ فَاِنۡ اَسۡلَمُوۡا فَقَدِ اہۡتَدَوۡا ۚ وَ اِنۡ تَوَلَّوۡا فَاِنَّمَا عَلَیۡکَ الۡبَلٰغُ ؕ وَ اللّٰہُ بَصِیۡرٌۢ بِالۡعِبَادِ ﴿٪۲۰﴾

(O Beloved!) If they, even then, dispute with you, say to them: ‘I have bowed my humble face in absolute submissiveness before the presence of Allah and so have those who follow me.’ And say to the People of the Book as well as the illiterate ones: ‘Do you also bow before Allah absolutely (i.e., do you accept Islam)?’ And, if they embrace submission, then they have truly achieved guidance. But if they turn away, your responsibility is only to deliver the command. And Allah is Watchful of His servants.

May Allah Guide you.

If Alexandra the great had wanted to spread the idolatry of his ancestors , many would have been worshiping it by now.[/quote]I don't know about that.

enilove:
Islam came after Christianity and bad mouthed the other religions before it . It came and started killing the Christians and the Jews who were living peacefully together before it started.

What do you expect the Christians to do ? Allow the evil done against them to continue or fight back ? When does it become an evil to defend yourself ?

Secondly , you fail to understand who God is.
In the old testament , God commanded the Israelites to take over the land which he promised Abraham .
They killed the inhabitants because they were Idol worshipers who were serving the devil.
After taking over the land , they remained in that land and did not leave their land to spread their religion. Unlike Islam who are killing people to spread their religion.

Thirdly , Christianity is not Judaism. The God of the Jews did not kill people to spread Judaism likewise Christians.
If Israel had the intention to destroy the whole of middle east , they would have done that easily, but that was not God's instructions to them. They were instructed to wait for the Messiah , Jesus Christ , who will tell them what to do. Moses specifically told them this.

Africans , American , Asians , Europeans , etc have historical records of killings for possession of lands at one time or the other.
This is not different from that of the Israelites. It was not to force people to accept a religion.
It is only in Islam that this evil was carried out.

Like you said the hadith to fight and kill to spread Islam is still valid.
For your information , no one is stopping you Muslims from doing so , but the problem is that your successors will still come one day to lie against us for defending ourselves.
ISIS have failed .Hesbolah , Boko Haram , Osama bin Ladin etc are failing without much reprisals. When your cups are full , you will regret following your wicked Muhammad.

To defend yourself against an evil one is not the same as spreading of religion. Signs and wonders are to convince unbeliever that there is God. But to defend , you must be ready to destroy those who wants to destroy you.
They are two different things.

How do you feel after saying this?
Why not give the second excuse for Islam as well?

Who will be the Muslims?
Do you know any Trinitarian or other around you, that was killed because he refused to accept Islam?
Has any Muslim threatened to kill you if you don't accept Islam? Did you accept Islam? Are you still a Muslim? Why are you still alive if you are not a Muslim?

[quote author=enilove post=101081365]Islam came after Christianity and bad mouthed the other religions before it . It came and started killing the Christians and the Jews who were living peacefully together before it started.

What do you expect the Christians to do ? Allow the evil done against them to continue or fight back ? When does it become an evil to defend yourself ?

Secondly , you fail to understand who God is.
In the old testament , God commanded the Israelites to take over the land which he promised Abraham .
They killed the inhabitants because they were Idol worshipers who were serving the devil.
After taking over the land , they remained in that land and did not leave their land to spread their religion. Unlike Islam who are killing people to spread their religion.

Thirdly , Christianity is not Judaism. The God of the Jews did not kill people to spread Judaism likewise Christians.
If Israel had the intention to destroy the whole of middle east , they would have done that easily, but that was not God's instructions to them. They were instructed to wait for the Messiah , Jesus Christ , who will tell them what to do. Moses specifically told them this.

Africans , American , Asians , Europeans , etc have historical records of killings for possession of lands at one time or the other.
This is not different from that of the Israelites. It was not to force people to accept a religion.
It is only in Islam that this evil was carried out.

[\qoute]

How do you feel after saying this?

Why not give the second excuse for Islam as well?

Islam spread by killings?
How possible?
Who will be the Muslims?
Do you know any Trinitarian or other around you, that was killed because he refused to accept Islam?
Has any Muslim threatened to kill you if you don't accept Islam? Did you accept Islam? Are you still a Muslim? Why are you still alive if you are not a Muslim?

enilove:
You first denied that Islam was spread by killings and you asked for evidence .Now that I have given the evidence from you books , you now take rendezvous in ''Trinitarian Christians are always looking for ways to end Islam.''

Why are you Muslims not sincere ?
Islam came after Christianity and bad mouthed the other religions before it . It came and started killing the Christians and the Jews who were living peacefully together before it started.

Thank God you've not used the word "takiyya".

Denied?
Insincere?

These are defeatist words.
When you are short of ideas, you start drawing emotions.

Pls. point out where I agreed or insinuated, Islam was spread by killings.

enilove:
How are you a Muslim and you don't have knowledge about your religion?

Islam can't continue with what Muhammad started because of the Christian crusaders that rose up against them in 1905 to stop the Muslim war of expansions and to recaptured formerly Christian territories .

The evidence that Islam was spread by killings are even in your books :

Hadith
Narrated Ibn `Umar:
When the Muslims arrived at Medina, they used to assemble for the prayer, and used to guess the time for it. During those days, the practice of Adhan for the prayers had not been introduced yet. Once they discussed this problem regarding the call for prayer. Some people suggested the use of a bell like the Christians, others proposed a trumpet like the horn used by the Jews, but `Umar was the first to suggest that a man should call (the people) for the prayer; so Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ordered Bilal to get up and pronounce the Adhan for prayers.
Sahih al-Bukhari 604
In-book : Book 10, Hadith 2
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 11, Hadith

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:
قُل لِّلْمُخَلَّفِينَ مِنَ الْأَعْرَابِ سَتُدْعَوْنَ إِلٰى قَوْمٍ أُولِى بَأْسٍ شَدِيدٍ تُقٰتِلُونَهُمْ أَوْ يُسْلِمُونَ  ۖ فَإِنْ تُطِيعُوا يُؤْتِكُمُ اللَّهُ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا  ۖ وَإِنْ تَتَوَلَّوْا كَمَا تَوَلَّيْتُمْ مِّنْ قَبْلُ يُعَذِّبْكُمْ عَذَابًا أَلِيمًا
"Say to those who remained behind of the bedouins, "You will be called to [face] a people of great military might; you may fight them, or they will submit. So if you obey, Allah will give you a good reward; but if you turn away as you turned away before, He will punish you with a painful punishment.""
(QS. Al-Fath 48: Verse 16)

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:
فَإِذَا انْسَلَخَ الْأَشْهُرُ الْحُرُمُ فَاقْتُلُوا الْمُشْرِكِينَ حَيْثُ وَجَدتُّمُوهُمْ وَخُذُوهُمْ وَاحْصُرُوهُمْ وَاقْعُدُوا لَهُمْ كُلَّ مَرْصَدٍ  ۚ فَإِنْ تَابُوا وَأَقَامُوا الصَّلٰوةَ وَءَاتَوُا الزَّكٰوةَ فَخَلُّوا سَبِيلَهُمْ  ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ
"And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."
(QS. At-Tawba 9: Verse 5)

But Christianity was spread by the power of God through signs and wonders.

Acts 3:7-12 KJV
And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength. [8] And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple, walking, and leaping, and praising God. [9] And all the people saw him walking and praising God: [10] And they knew that it was he which sat for alms at the Beautiful gate of the temple: and they were filled with wonder and amazement at that which had happened unto him. [11] And as the lame man which was healed held Peter and John, all the people ran together unto them in the porch that is called Solomon's, greatly wondering. [12] And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?

But Muhammad and his caliphs had to kill to get people to submit to Allah.

I asked you a personal question. I am still expecting a response.

What do you intend from that hadith?

The verses permitting Muslims to fight have their precedences. I don't think you are interested in that. Those verses are still valid.

Well, I thought the Trinitarians bible has more Gothic verses than the Qur'an.
Your gods and their angels carried out killings and destructions and in other cases commissioned their sons to do the killings and destructions.

Do say your gods are killers?
Do you question your gods and leaders?
Do you say your religion is spread by killings?
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Talking about "the Crusades".

We know there were about 8 Crusades at different times in the history of the Trinitarian Christians against the Muslims around Europe and the middle East especially. Details abound.

The first crusade was between 1096 - 1099.

There were other crusades against the Jews and other religious groups at different times too.

I don't think the Crusade campaigns were about signs and wonders.

Why didn't they use signs and wonders against the Muslims and others?

The truth; Trinitarian Christians have always wish to see the back of Islam since when Islam was born till date.

Islam, has also always find a way of surviving their scheming. They then turned and begin to form oppressed.

Even in Jesus place of abode, where he did all his miracles and wonders as contained in your bible, how many of his people actually believe him then and now?

enilove:
Why did Allah claimed he did the miracles in the Bible and refused to do any miracle for Muhammad ?

Like when he visited the sick who eventually died. If he had prayed for him and he got healed, won't people believe him ?

Magic is not miracle . God disgraced the magicians of Egypt.
The fact that there are fake products should not stop a genuine manufacturer from continuing to produce his original products.

What am saying is how are you sure those words are from God and not Muhammad's words ?

For example : When Aishat was accused of adultery . Muhammad could not get a revelation to know whether they were lying against her or not.
When Muhammad took his adopted son's wife , he said it was Allah that told him to do that so that other Muslims will not have doubt to marry their adopted son's wives.
Then later he cancelled adoption for Muslims.
Making the reason he gave for marrying his son's wife vain .

Christianity spread through signs and wonders and not by killings of people.
Why can't Islam spread by preaching of peace alone ?

The Prophet did a lot of miracles. Some were documented. Though, Miracle is not the substance of Islam.

It is the standards of Trinitarians to look out for miracles and wonders. These have lead to deceptions, which we all know.

Islam is hinge on Beliefs and total submission to the Will of Allah.

The Prophet SAW was given privileges by Allah on some matters. So it is possible to hear some things practised by the Prophet alone.
Of course, he is not like any other person.

There are more than one billion Muslims spread across the world despite the campaigns of calumnies carry out by Trinitarians like you, on Allah, His Prophet and the believers.

The promise of Allah is that Islam will dominate other religions including Trinity and Christianity.

Your children or children's children may become Muslims or even you.


Islam spread by killings?
How possible?
Who will be the Muslims?


Do you know any Trinitarian or other around you, that was killed because he refused to accept Islam?


Has any Muslim threatened to kill you if you don't accept Islam? Did you accept Islam? Are you still a Muslim? Why are you still alive if you are not a Muslim?

Of course, there are people who commit atrocities in the name of Islam, but that isn't the teaching of Islam.

I know, you know this.

enilove:
This does not prove that anyone spoke with Muhammad.
Anyone can say , '' God said ..... '' , how would you know that God actually spoke to that person ?

For example , when God called Moses He gave him signs that made them to believe him :

Exodus 4:1-9 KJV
And Moses answered and said, But, behold, they will not believe me, nor hearken unto my voice: for they will say, The Lord hath not appeared unto thee. [2] And the Lord said unto him, What is that in thine hand? And he said, A rod. [3] And he said, Cast it on the ground. And he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from before it. [4] And the Lord said unto Moses, Put forth thine hand, and take it by the tail. And he put forth his hand, and caught it, and it became a rod in his hand: [5] That they may believe that the Lord God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath appeared unto thee. [6] And the Lord said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snow. [7] And he said, Put thine hand into thy bosom again. And he put his hand into his bosom again; and plucked it out of his bosom, and, behold, it was turned again as his other flesh. [8] And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither hearken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign. [9] And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe also these two signs, neither hearken unto thy voice, that thou shalt take of the water of the river, and pour it upon the dry land : and the water which thou takest out of the river shall become blood upon the dry land.

Allah called Muhammad through an angel ?

I think that was the beginning of his prophethood .

Let's start from their .

LNGKMD!

So, how does these Bible verses show God called Moses either?

Remember there were people who could perform magic and other diabolic acts.

Moses may only be a better magician in the eyes of the disbelievers, just as you are a disbeliever of the Prophet.
[2:107] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"اَلَمۡ تَعۡلَمۡ اَنَّ اللّٰہَ لَہٗ مُلۡکُ السَّمٰوٰتِ وَ الۡاَرۡضِ ؕ وَ مَا لَکُمۡ مِّنۡ دُوۡنِ اللّٰہِ مِنۡ وَّلِیٍّ وَّ لَا نَصِیۡرٍ ﴿۱۰۷﴾

Do you not know that the sovereignty of the heavens and the earth belongs to Allah alone, and that you have neither any friend nor any helper aside from Allah?

Man has always doubt anything.

Even the Trinitarian deity, how did he ended up in the hands of his own people - Man?

[3:184] Āl ‘Imrān-آل عِمْرَان
"فَاِنۡ کَذَّبُوۡکَ فَقَدۡ کُذِّبَ رُسُلٌ مِّنۡ قَبۡلِکَ جَآءُوۡ بِالۡبَیِّنٰتِ وَ الزُّبُرِ وَ الۡکِتٰبِ الۡمُنِیۡرِ ﴿۱۸۴﴾

If, even then, they belie you, (My Beloved, do not be aggrieved). So many Messengers who brought clear signs (miracles), scriptures and the enlightening Book were belied before you.


Those verses I quoted earlier is a definitive statement from Allah about the mission of the Prophet and it is a clear sign. You might not understand.

enilove:
@compton11.
You can keep on believing in the god of Islam.
What you fail to realise is that , the lies you believe will not change to the truth.

When it comes to where to spend eternity , only fools take it for granted.

There are many evidence that I have revealed to you but you are taking them for granted.

One question I want you to answer is this .

What is your proof that Muhammad was a prophet ?

This is simple , isn't it ?

Show your evidence.

This is it:

[61:8] Al-Ṣaff-الصَّفّ
"یُرِیۡدُوۡنَ لِیُطۡفِـُٔوۡا نُوۡرَ اللّٰہِ بِاَفۡوَاہِہِمۡ وَ اللّٰہُ مُتِمُّ نُوۡرِہٖ وَ لَوۡ کَرِہَ الۡکٰفِرُوۡنَ ﴿۸﴾

These (deniers of the truth) desire to put out the Light of Allah by (blowing) with their mouths, whereas Allah will take His Light to perfection, even though the disbelievers may dislike it intensely.

[61:9] Al-Ṣaff-الصَّفّ
"ہُوَ الَّذِیۡۤ اَرۡسَلَ رَسُوۡلَہٗ بِالۡہُدٰی وَ دِیۡنِ الۡحَقِّ لِیُظۡہِرَہٗ عَلَی الدِّیۡنِ کُلِّہٖ وَ لَوۡ کَرِہَ الۡمُشۡرِکُوۡنَ ٪﴿۹﴾

He is the One Who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the Din (Religion) of truth so that He may make it dominate and prevail over all other religions, even though the idolaters may hate it much.

[9:33] Al-Tawbah-التَّوْبَة
"ہُوَ الَّذِیۡۤ اَرۡسَلَ رَسُوۡلَہٗ بِالۡہُدٰی وَ دِیۡنِ الۡحَقِّ لِیُظۡہِرَہٗ عَلَی الدِّیۡنِ کُلِّہٖ ۙ وَ لَوۡ کَرِہَ الۡمُشۡرِکُوۡنَ ﴿۳۳﴾

Allah is He Who sent His Messenger (blessings and peace be upon him) with guidance and the Din (Religion) of truth to make him (the Messenger) dominant over every (other exponent of) Din (Religion), though much to the dislike of the polytheists.