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yungmill:
Hahahahahahahahaha see the abdul trying his best to deflect, now lets show your low IQ, embryology is physical and ia in the purview of science regarding the formation of humans from the moment of conception! However the stupid question you asked in a woeful attempt to evade is not within the purview of science! Now can you see your stupidity outside? Now let me reverse your question to you, using science explain the shahada, pillars of islam, hadiths, original sin, spirit of allah, jannah, shaitan, kabba, hajj?

Guess now you see how stupid you and your false fallacy of false equivalence is abdul!

The amount of brain cells lost to abdulshaitans!

Now grow a pair and answer my questions kid!

I dey shake my head for you.

The same science that can't validate anything in Christianity, Yet, you want us to use science to validate Islam.
Hope you can see your foolishness.


The other kafir, the bigger one, Shadeyinka, quoted a verse from the Qur'an, i asked, "who says Allah didn't create everything in Pair?"

I expected him to quote from the bible. Alas!

yungmill:
Abdulshaitan why are you running? Hahahaha all you have is lies and conjectures! Posting fabricated verses and exposing yourself and your weak deen! Where is your honour? Y'all lack it severely! Stay away from babies and adolescents, practice better self control than your false prophet! Followers of pedo.

Is this how you convince people about you God?

I see!

yungmill:
We know abduls are senseless but just try and answer the question! Oh we know of something called science! Lets see if the knowledge (fables) of allah is in congruence with the science of embryology! Go on abdul the floor is yours lets see the laff kill you now!

Good!
Ehen! I exactly know this is where you go land cos your bible has nothing to offer on embryology at least. It is empty!

Before science can be a standard;

What does science says about:

The bible?

God?

Trinity?

Jesus?

Creation?

Adam?

Garden of Eden?

Heaven and Hell?

Sins and Inherited sin?

Death?

Resurrection?

Judgement after death?

Holy Ghost?

Pls. quote the relevant chapters and verses from Science.
Thank you.

adm212144:
proof the question your pastor programmed in your brain to askus .i will rather answer your pastor or leader in church .you are no match .the question you were asking is programmed on you .

See me, see Kafir.

Confirm! He is wired to a distorted translation.
Seeing a Believer's translation, completely knocked off the nonsense he is parading as intelligence.
Alas! He became a clown.

Telling me how to quote from my own book!

yungmill:
Answer the question and stop running kufar! Coward! answer!

LNGKM!

Set the rule:

Kefiriiiīi,

Your God was not gracious to avail you the knowledge, what standards do you want to use in disproving Allah (SWT) on baby making?

I need answer, pls.

[quote author=yungmill post=100433226][/quote]Kefiriiiīi,

Your God was not gracious to avail you the knowledge, what standards do you want to use in disproving Allah (SWT) on baby making?

I need answer, pls.

yungmill:
Abdul why are you running! On this case its easy to refute me, just show us those words in bracket in the arabic you posted thats all, prove the english translation you gave is not falsified+ is that too harf for you? Abdul it seems you haven't taken 7 adjwa dates and camel piss today?

I didn't see anything to refute.

You are the one to refute your dumbness in the guise of intelligence. It is your responsibility, not mine.

yungmill:
Hahaha is that the sad excuse you can give to help your allah? I asked a simple question why all this semantics if your deen is strong? Are you scared? Or is it because you know if you answer you will embarrass allah as s quack and true demon?

Your God was not gracious to avail you the knowledge, what standards do you want to use in disproving Allah (SWT) on baby making?

yungmill:
They are the masters of taqiyya! Always lying and misinterpreting, same way they lied that allah sends blessing on the prophet when caught out that the word there is yusalluna not barraka they then said its pray for! But it is allah and the angels PRAY ON the prophet Meaning mohammed is a deity allah prays on so they have no choice but to lie!

LNGKM!

At this point you have become a full blown Clown.

yungmill:
I dare you to show us the words in bracket in the arabic you just posted with your false translation! If you can i will deactivate this account and apologize to yall! You guys cant live without deceit, adding words to help allah out and twist context! Shame on yall munafikun! Its easy to prove yall apostates! Show us those words in bracket in the arabic? We are waiting!

Se how adding the word "also" changed the meaning in context! Deceivers!

LNGKM!

You are becoming a clown.

yungmill:
As usual always deflecting! The bible says nothing of such! Since allah was gracious to give us the knowledge please explain it to us!

Good. You acknowledged the graciousness of Allah on this.

If i should explain it, what difference will it make, since your God was not gracious enough to tell you?

yanabasee1:
Because, Satan is his child....His creation...

LWKMD
Another son of God be dat.
From which mother dis one?

yungmill:
Abdul why are you running like your imams always do?
Please explain to us how allah says to create all is has to say is kun and it will be like he did to adam, but we later see thats a lie as he still had to breathe his soul in adam?

Explain to us how according to allah babies are made from the sperm of men and women, which becomes a blood clot then bones before flesh covers the bone, and please use science as we all know a clot is dead tissue! Life can't come from it No one has had a bony miscarriage or bony still birth so help your lallah explain his goofy head!

Ok.

Pls quote the bible chapters that talk about how babies are made, so i can compare.
Thank you.

yungmill:
Never have, never will and never will be! I rather burn in hell than be in jannah with 72 virgins and boys who are never soft, since muslim heaven is a bisexual LovePeddler house! Or be with allah the demon psycho!

I wish you well on you path to hell.

shadeyinka:
The truth is far above any memorisation and blind acceptance of narratives of arabs. The truth is not afraid of being questioned. The truth is not afraid of scrutiny. Whenever the truth is under the hammer of questioning, it comes out brighter and shinier.

Jesus said:
Matt 11:27-28
…27All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him. 28 Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.

John 3:36
36Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life. Whoever rejects the Son will not see life. Instead, the wrath of God remains on him.”


1John 5:12
12Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.


Salvation is a free gift of God! Ask questions if you desire the truth!

[9:30] Al-Tawbah-التَّوْبَة
"وَ قَالَتِ الۡیَہُوۡدُ عُزَیۡرُۨ ابۡنُ اللّٰہِ وَ قَالَتِ النَّصٰرَی الۡمَسِیۡحُ ابۡنُ اللّٰہِ ؕ ذٰلِکَ قَوۡلُہُمۡ بِاَفۡوَاہِہِمۡ ۚ یُضَاہِـُٔوۡنَ قَوۡلَ الَّذِیۡنَ کَفَرُوۡا مِنۡ قَبۡلُ ؕ قٰتَلَہُمُ اللّٰہُ ۚ۫ اَنّٰی یُؤۡفَکُوۡنَ ﴿۳۰﴾

And the Jews said: ‘‘Uzayr (Ezra) is the son of Allah,’ and the Christians said: ‘The Messiah is the son of Allah.’ These are their (absurd) utterances that they voice with their mouths. They (acquire) resemblance with the saying of those who have disbelieved before (them). May Allah ruin them! Where are they wandering distracted?

[9:31] Al-Tawbah-التَّوْبَة
"اِتَّخَذُوۡۤا اَحۡبَارَہُمۡ وَ رُہۡبَانَہُمۡ اَرۡبَابًا مِّنۡ دُوۡنِ اللّٰہِ وَ الۡمَسِیۡحَ ابۡنَ مَرۡیَمَ ۚ وَ مَاۤ اُمِرُوۡۤا اِلَّا لِیَعۡبُدُوۡۤا اِلٰـہًا وَّاحِدًا ۚ لَاۤ اِلٰہَ اِلَّا ہُوَ ؕ سُبۡحٰنَہٗ عَمَّا یُشۡرِکُوۡنَ ﴿۳۱﴾

They took their priests and monks for lords besides Allah and (also) the Messiah, the son of Maryam (Mary), whilst in truth they had not been given (any) command except to worship (only) the One God besides Whom there is no God. Holy is He, far above those that they associate with Him as partners.

[9:32] Al-Tawbah-التَّوْبَة
"یُرِیۡدُوۡنَ اَنۡ یُّطۡفِـُٔوۡا نُوۡرَ اللّٰہِ بِاَفۡوَاہِہِمۡ وَ یَاۡبَی اللّٰہُ اِلَّاۤ اَنۡ یُّتِمَّ نُوۡرَہٗ وَ لَوۡ کَرِہَ الۡکٰفِرُوۡنَ ﴿۳۲﴾

They desire to extinguish the Light of Allah by blowing through their mouths. And Allah rejects (it) but (wills) to manifest His Light to its fullness, even though the disbelievers dislike (it).

[9:33] Al-Tawbah-التَّوْبَة
"ہُوَ الَّذِیۡۤ اَرۡسَلَ رَسُوۡلَہٗ بِالۡہُدٰی وَ دِیۡنِ الۡحَقِّ لِیُظۡہِرَہٗ عَلَی الدِّیۡنِ کُلِّہٖ ۙ وَ لَوۡ کَرِہَ الۡمُشۡرِکُوۡنَ ﴿۳۳﴾

Allah is He Who sent His Messenger (blessings and peace be upon him) with guidance and the Din (Religion) of truth to make him (the Messenger) dominant over every (other exponent of) Din (Religion), though much to the dislike of the polytheists.

[4:171] Al-Nisā-النِّسَآء
"یٰۤاَہۡلَ الۡکِتٰبِ لَا تَغۡلُوۡا فِیۡ دِیۡنِکُمۡ وَ لَا تَقُوۡلُوۡا عَلَی اللّٰہِ اِلَّا الۡحَقَّ ؕ اِنَّمَا الۡمَسِیۡحُ عِیۡسَی ابۡنُ مَرۡیَمَ رَسُوۡلُ اللّٰہِ وَ کَلِمَتُہٗ ۚ اَلۡقٰہَاۤ اِلٰی مَرۡیَمَ وَ رُوۡحٌ مِّنۡہُ ۫ فَاٰمِنُوۡا بِاللّٰہِ وَ رُسُلِہٖ ۚ۟ وَ لَا تَقُوۡلُوۡا ثَلٰثَۃٌ ؕ اِنۡتَہُوۡا خَیۡرًا لَّکُمۡ ؕ اِنَّمَا اللّٰہُ اِلٰہٌ وَّاحِدٌ ؕ سُبۡحٰنَہٗۤ اَنۡ یَّکُوۡنَ لَہٗ وَلَدٌ ۘ لَہٗ مَا فِی السَّمٰوٰتِ وَ مَا فِی الۡاَرۡضِ ؕ وَ کَفٰی بِاللّٰہِ وَکِیۡلًا ﴿۱۷۱﴾٪

O People of the Book! Exceed not the limits in your din (religion), and speak nothing but the truth about Allah’s glory. The fact is simple that the Messiah, ‘Isa, the son of Maryam (Jesus, the son of Mary) is Allah’s Messenger and His Word which He conveyed to Maryam (Mary) and a Spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His Messengers and do not say: ‘There are three (Gods).’ Refrain (from this belief); (that) is best for you. Verily, Allah is the Only One God, Holy is He, far above having a son. Whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth (all) belongs to Him alone. And Sufficient is Allah as a Guardian.

[4:172] Al-Nisā-النِّسَآء
"لَنۡ یَّسۡتَنۡکِفَ الۡمَسِیۡحُ اَنۡ یَّکُوۡنَ عَبۡدًا لِّلّٰہِ وَ لَا الۡمَلٰٓئِکَۃُ الۡمُقَرَّبُوۡنَ ؕ وَ مَنۡ یَّسۡتَنۡکِفۡ عَنۡ عِبَادَتِہٖ وَ یَسۡتَکۡبِرۡ فَسَیَحۡشُرُہُمۡ اِلَیۡہِ جَمِیۡعًا ﴿۱۷۲﴾

The Messiah feels no embarrassment in being a servant of Allah. Nor do the closest angels (ever feel ashamed). And whoever disdains to be His servant and perpetrates arrogance, He will soon assemble together all such people before Him.

[4:173] Al-Nisā-النِّسَآء
"فَاَمَّا الَّذِیۡنَ اٰمَنُوۡا وَ عَمِلُوا الصّٰلِحٰتِ فَیُوَفِّیۡہِمۡ اُجُوۡرَہُمۡ وَ یَزِیۡدُہُمۡ مِّنۡ فَضۡلِہٖ ۚ وَ اَمَّا الَّذِیۡنَ اسۡتَنۡکَفُوۡا وَ اسۡتَکۡبَرُوۡا فَیُعَذِّبُہُمۡ عَذَابًا اَلِیۡمًا ۬ۙ وَّ لَا یَجِدُوۡنَ لَہُمۡ مِّنۡ دُوۡنِ اللّٰہِ وَلِیًّا وَّ لَا نَصِیۡرًا ﴿۱۷۳﴾

So those who believe and persist in doing pious deeds, He will pay them their wages in full and will (then) award them more out of His bounty. But those who disdain (worshipping Allah) and behave arrogantly, He will punish them with grievous torment, and they will not find for them any friend or helper besides Allah.

[17:57] Al-’Isrā-الْإِسْرَاء/بَنِيْ إِسْرَآءِيْل
"اُولٰٓئِکَ الَّذِیۡنَ یَدۡعُوۡنَ یَبۡتَغُوۡنَ اِلٰی رَبِّہِمُ الۡوَسِیۡلَۃَ اَیُّہُمۡ اَقۡرَبُ وَ یَرۡجُوۡنَ رَحۡمَتَہٗ وَ یَخَافُوۡنَ عَذَابَہٗ ؕ اِنَّ عَذَابَ رَبِّکَ کَانَ مَحۡذُوۡرًا ﴿۵۷﴾

Those that they worship (i.e., they prepare sculptures and images of angels, jinn, the Prophet ‘Isa [Jesus], ‘Uzayr [Ezra] and others and worship them) look for mediation to their Lord (themselves) as to who amongst them is most intimate (in the presence of Allah). And they (themselves) hope for His mercy and fear His torment. (Now say yourselves how they can be gods. They are prostrating themselves before the True God.) Indeed, the torment of your Lord is a thing to fear.

[43:57] Al-Zukhruf-الزُّخْرُف
"وَ لَمَّا ضُرِبَ ابۡنُ مَرۡیَمَ مَثَلًا اِذَا قَوۡمُکَ مِنۡہُ یَصِدُّوۡنَ ﴿۵۷﴾

And when the example of (‘Isa [Jesus]) the son of Maryam (Mary) is given, your people laugh (mockingly),

[43:58] Al-Zukhruf-الزُّخْرُف
"وَ قَالُوۡۤاءَ اٰلِہَتُنَا خَیۡرٌ اَمۡ ہُوَ ؕ مَا ضَرَبُوۡہُ لَکَ اِلَّا جَدَلًا ؕ بَلۡ ہُمۡ قَوۡمٌ خَصِمُوۡنَ ﴿۵۸﴾

And say: ‘Are our gods better or he (‘Isa [Jesus])?’ They say this only to have a dispute with you. No doubt, they are very quarrelsome.

[43:59] Al-Zukhruf-الزُّخْرُف
"اِنۡ ہُوَ اِلَّا عَبۡدٌ اَنۡعَمۡنَا عَلَیۡہِ وَ جَعَلۡنٰہُ مَثَلًا لِّبَنِیۡۤ اِسۡرَآءِیۡلَ ﴿ؕ۵۹﴾

He (‘Isa [Jesus]) was only an (exalted) servant whom We blessed with favour. And We made him an example (of Our might) for the Children of Israel.

[61:7] Al-Ṣaff-الصَّفّ
"وَ مَنۡ اَظۡلَمُ مِمَّنِ افۡتَرٰی عَلَی اللّٰہِ الۡکَذِبَ وَ ہُوَ یُدۡعٰۤی اِلَی الۡاِسۡلَامِ ؕ وَ اللّٰہُ لَا یَہۡدِی الۡقَوۡمَ الظّٰلِمِیۡنَ ﴿۷﴾

And who can be a greater wrongdoer than he who invents a lie against Allah whilst he is being invited towards Islam? And Allah does not guide the wrongdoers.

These are just some of the words of Allah concerning your delusion.

You can invite other kafirs to interpret them as they please you and gloat over your manifest misguidance.

yungmill:
Dont mind the lying abdul! The verses before dul qarnian reached the place of the sun setting clearly states allah guides and gives him means and courses to follow and discover things! So when allah gave him the course he folloeed it to the place of the setting then rising of the sun! Abduls can lie and by lying about his book he just became a mushrik, munafikun and bida artist!

83. And they ask you about Zul-Qarnain. Say, “I will tell you something about him.”

84. We established him on earth, and gave him all kinds of means.

85. He pursued a certain course.

86. Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it setting in a murky spring, and found a people in its vicinity. We said, “O Zul-Qarnain, you may either inflict a penalty, or else treat them kindly.

Pls. Are you a Muslim?

shadeyinka:
Repeating a lie a million times does not change it into the truth. Open your eyes and even is Islam will tell you lies, you can still choose to speak the truth to yourself.

Let me remind you that you have said NOTHING (either true or false) about this below!

I DID NOT CLAIM TO TEACH YOU YOUR RELIGION: I have only ASKED you questions so that you Mallam Mhmsadyq can teach me ISLAM!
Instead of answering my objections, you get angry and claim I want to teach you Islam. How can I!?

Please answer the QUESTIONS! I have highlighted them in RED and BLUE for your kind consideration.

As a rule, I ALWAYS answer questions relating to my faith as clearly as possible to anyone who asks!



Mallam mhmsadyq,
You and I very well know that this your translation is a lie and an attempt to distort the arabic. The arabic did not in an iota of sense suggest the insertions "BOUNDARY", "PERCEIVED" or "AS IF" if they are, what are the exact arabic words used. Dont forget that in islam, the ARABIC Quran is more perfect than any translation of the quran.

Unfortunately, let me help you to tear down your untrue translation logically and I hope you will embrace the TRUTH!


[18:86] Al-Kahf-الْكَهْف
"حَتّٰۤی اِذَا بَلَغَ مَغۡرِبَ الشَّمۡسِ وَجَدَہَا تَغۡرُبُ فِیۡ عَیۡنٍ حَمِئَۃٍ وَّ وَجَدَ عِنۡدَہَا قَوۡمًا ۬ؕ قُلۡنَا یٰذَا الۡقَرۡنَیۡنِ اِمَّاۤ اَنۡ تُعَذِّبَ وَ اِمَّاۤ اَنۡ تَتَّخِذَ فِیۡہِمۡ حُسۡنًا ﴿۸۶﴾

Until he reached the boundary of (a locality towards) the west where he perceived the setting of the sun as if going down into a spring of (muddy black) hot water, and he found a people (living) there. We said: ‘O Dhu al-Qarnayn, (it is up to you) whether you punish them or treat them nicely.’
Zul-qarnain reached the boundary of a locality towards the west (where the sun is supposed to set) where he perceived the setting of the sun as if going down into a spring of muddy black hot water
1. Since Zul-qarnain found a people at the locality, he actually reached the locality not the boundary. What do you think made up the BOUNDARY of the locality?
2. The setting of the sun in alike almost everywhere in the world as FAR into the horizon so that his perception of the sun as going down into a spring of muddy water is senseless (as you cant see the water in the horizon to even determine its colour). Does commons sense tell one that he can see the colour of water as muddy and black at the HORIZON?
3. The locality being towards the west suggests that Zul-qarnain or Allah thinks that the sun sets towards the west. Is this true from your knowledge of Geography does the Sun set toward the West? (Note: this report was not by Zul-qarnain but by Allah and Allah should be outside the earth overlooking the solar system)

Your insertions and conjectures are illogical bro!

[18:90] Al-Kahf-الْكَهْف
"حَتّٰۤی اِذَا بَلَغَ مَطۡلِعَ الشَّمۡسِ وَجَدَہَا تَطۡلُعُ عَلٰی قَوۡمٍ لَّمۡ نَجۡعَلۡ لَّہُمۡ مِّنۡ دُوۡنِہَا سِتۡرًا ﴿ۙ۹۰﴾

Until he reached the boundary (of a locality in the direction) of the sunrise. There he perceived (the rising of) the sun (as if) it were rising on the people (living in that piece of land) for whom We had provided no cover (for protection) against the sun (i.e., they lived in the caves, without clothes and houses)

Zul-qarnain reached the boundary of a locality in the direction of the sun rise where he perceived the rising of the sun as if were rising on the people
1. If not because Zul-qarnain was a human being, I would have assumed that the ayah refers to the dwelling of Jinns because it looks like there is a place on the earth with zero horizon (no cover from the hot scorching sun) and people live in caves without clothes and houses. Mallam mhmsadyq, from your knowledge of geography, does this kind of place exist on earth?
2. Since Zul-qarnain saw the kind of shelter these people lived in, then I will assume that he actually got to the locality and NOT the boundary as you would want us to believe. Do you think Zul-qarnain actually saw these people? Was it Allah alone who knew that the people there lived in caves?
3. Is Zul-qarnain super human? How close did he (logically speaking) get to this people without being burnt by the sun? Do I suggest 3 km!?, Do you think that such a distance can protect a man from the solar radiation (Please don't forget to apply the inverse square law)?


So Mallam Mhmsadyq, you can see how your conjectures in defending allah has created other logical contradictions because you will rather memorise than think.

By the way, you didn't say any word about creatures that are all female or the ones that are hermaphrodites! How were these created in pairs?

REPEATED HERE FOR YOUR RESPONSE

Can you show us the validity of my claim that there are errors in the Quran?


Check the highlight and comment whether this statements are true or false
1.
Sura 51:49
And of every thing We have created pairs: That ye may receive instruction.
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On the surface this seem true light/darkness, hill/valley, male/female, joy/sadness etc until you look deeper and see things like Bdelloidea which are ALL Female. Does it have a pair? What is its name?

The list is actually decently long : bacteria, fungi imperfecti, etc.
All members of the Monera Kingdom reproduce asexually only. Then, there are worms which reproduce sexually but all members of the species are the same, the individual worm is neither male nor female but has both sexual organs, it is a "hermaphrodite".
What is the pair of hermaphrodites?

2.
Quran 18:86
Till, when he [the traveller Zul-qarnain] reached
the setting-place of the sun,
he found it going down into a muddy spring, ...

Quran 18:90
Till, when he reached the rising-place of the sun,
he found it rising on a people
for whom We had appointed no shelter from it.

I will not argue whether Zul-qarnain is Alexander the great or not. The question is
Does the sun set into a muddy spring?
Where is the rising place of the sun?


Indeed, IF there is no error in the quran, kindly answer the questions in blue!

Google is your Friend! Stop hiding! The truth will set you free!!

You can tear it down for your fellow kafirs and make yourselves happy.

You aren't inventing anything new.

shadeyinka:
Mallam mhmsadyq,
You and I very well know that this your translation is a lie and an attempt to distort the arabic. The arabic did not in an iota of sense suggest the insertions "BOUNDARY", "PERCEIVED" or "AS IF" if they are, what are the exact arabic words used. Dont forget that in islam, the ARABIC Quran is more perfect than any translation of the quran.

Unfortunately, let me help you to tear down your untrue translation logically and I hope you will embrace the TRUTH


[18:86] Al-Kahf-الْكَهْف
"حَتّٰۤی اِذَا بَلَغَ مَغۡرِبَ الشَّمۡسِ وَجَدَہَا تَغۡرُبُ فِیۡ عَیۡنٍ حَمِئَۃٍ وَّ وَجَدَ عِنۡدَہَا قَوۡمًا ۬ؕ قُلۡنَا یٰذَا الۡقَرۡنَیۡنِ اِمَّاۤ اَنۡ تُعَذِّبَ وَ اِمَّاۤ اَنۡ تَتَّخِذَ فِیۡہِمۡ حُسۡنًا ﴿۸۶﴾

Until he reached the boundary of (a locality towards) the west where he perceived the setting of the sun as if going down into a spring of (muddy black) hot water, and he found a people (living) there. We said: ‘O Dhu al-Qarnayn, (it is up to you) whether you punish them or treat them nicely.’
Zul-qarnain reached the boundary of a locality towards the west (where the sun is supposed to set) where he perceived the setting of the sun as if going down into a spring of muddy black hot water
1. Since Zul-qarnain found a people at the locality, he actually reached the locality not the boundary. What do you think made up the BOUNDARY of the locality?
2. The setting of the sun in alike almost everywhere in the world as FAR into the horizon so that his perception of the sun as going down into a spring of muddy water is senseless (as you cant see the water in the horizon to even determine its colour). DOes commons sense tell one that he can see the colour of water as muddy and black at the HORIZON?
3. The locality being towards the west suggests that Zul-qarnain or Allah thinks that the sun sets towards the west. Is this true from your knowledge of Geography does the Sun set toward the West? (Note: this report was not by Zul-qarnain but by Allah and Allah should be outside the earth overlooking the solar system)

Your insertions and conjectures are illogical bro!

[18:90] Al-Kahf-الْكَهْف
"حَتّٰۤی اِذَا بَلَغَ مَطۡلِعَ الشَّمۡسِ وَجَدَہَا تَطۡلُعُ عَلٰی قَوۡمٍ لَّمۡ نَجۡعَلۡ لَّہُمۡ مِّنۡ دُوۡنِہَا سِتۡرًا ﴿ۙ۹۰﴾

Until he reached the boundary (of a locality in the direction) of the sunrise. There he perceived (the rising of) the sun (as if) it were rising on the people (living in that piece of land) for whom We had provided no cover (for protection) against the sun (i.e., they lived in the caves, without clothes and houses)

Zul-qarnain reached the boundary of a locality in the direction of the sun rise where he perceived the rising of the sun as if were rising on the people
1. If not because Zul-qarnain was a human being, I would have assumed that the ayah refers to the dwelling of Jinns because it looks like there is a place on the earth with zero horizon (no cover from the hot scorching sun) and people live in caves without clothes and houses. Mallam mhmsadyq, from your knowledge of geography, does this kind of place exist on earth?
2. Since Zul-qarnain saw the kind of shelter these people lived in, then I will assume that he actually got to the locality and NOT the boundary as you would want us to believe. Do you think Zul-qarnain actually saw these people? Was it Allah alone who knew that the people there lived in caves?
3. Is Zul-qarnain super human? How close did he (logically speaking) get to this people without being burnt by the sun? Do I suggest 3 km!?, Do you think that such a distance can protect a man from the solar radiation (Please don't forget to apply the inverse square law)?


So Mallam Mhmsadyq, you can see how your conjectures in defending allah has created other logical contradictions because you will rather memorise than think.

By the way, you didn't say any word about creatures that are all female or the ones that are hermaphrodites! How were these created in pairs?

REPEATED HERE FOR YOUR RESPONSE

Can you show us the validity of my claim that there are errors in the Quran?


Check the highlight and comment whether this statements are true or false
1.
Sura 51:49
And of every thing We have created pairs: That ye may receive instruction.
--
On the surface this seem true light/darkness, hill/valley, male/female, joy/sadness etc until you look deeper and see things like Bdelloidea which are ALL Female. Does it have a pair? What is its name?

The list is actually decently long : bacteria, fungi imperfecti, etc.
All members of the Monera Kingdom reproduce asexually only. Then, there are worms which reproduce sexually but all members of the species are the same, the individual worm is neither male nor female but has both sexual organs, it is a "hermaphrodite".
What is the pair of hermaphrodites?

2.
Quran 18:86
Till, when he [the traveller Zul-qarnain] reached
the setting-place of the sun,
he found it going down into a muddy spring, ...

Quran 18:90
Till, when he reached the rising-place of the sun,
he found it rising on a people
for whom We had appointed no shelter from it.

I will not argue whether Zul-qarnain is Alexander the great or not. The question is
Does the sun set into a muddy spring?
Where is the rising place of the sun?


Indeed, IF there is no error in the quran, kindly answer the questions in blue!

Google is your Friend! Stop hiding! The truth will set you free!!

You and I know that you can repeat the same thing forever.

The kafir that will teach me my religion has not been born, so، it can never be you.

I have answered you. Take it or leave it! Very simple.

I am the Muslim, you are the kafir. You can't tell me what anything about Islam is, except what i say or agree it is. Rule 1.

Now, who says Allah didn't create everything in pairs, if Allah says so?

shadeyinka:
I have addressed your OWN CLAIM to show you how Allah himself could make errors in the quran.
Here is your old quote UNMODIFIED

I have stayed on the matter hitting you exactly according to your response. Did you not CLAIM that the Qur'an can never be wrong?
Now, I answered you according to that you are screaming that its not in the matter. Who raised the claim. On this every other thing you said rests. If the Quran is wrong, can we trust any other thing you say from it?

You said:

In the whole world, how many times have you found Christians bombing Mosques?
Who is USUALLY the aggressor?
In Ilorin, who were the aggressors and how?

Now, answer the question: You said "the Qur'an can never be wrong!"
AND
Since

Can you show us the validity of my claim that there are errors in the Quran?


Check the highlight and comment whether this statements are true or false
1.
Sura 51:49
And of every thing We have created pairs: That ye may receive instruction.
--
On the surface this seem true light/darkness, hill/valley, male/female, joy/sadness etc until you look deeper and see things like Bdelloidea which are ALL Female. Does it have a pair? What is its name?

The list is actually decently long : bacteria, fungi imperfecti, etc.
All members of the Monera Kingdom reproduce asexually only. Then, there are worms which reproduce sexually but all members of the species are the same, the individual worm is neither male nor female but has both sexual organs, it is a "hermaphrodite".
What is the pair of hermaphrodites?

2.
Quran 18:86
Till, when he [the traveller Zul-qarnain] reached
the setting-place of the sun,
he found it going down into a muddy spring, ...

Quran 18:90
Till, when he reached the rising-place of the sun,
he found it rising on a people
for whom We had appointed no shelter from it.

I will not argue whether Zul-qarnain is Alexander the great or not. The question is
Does the sun set into a muddy spring?
Where is the rising place of the sun?



Indeed, IF there is no error in the quran, kindly answer the questions in blue!


Google is your Friend! Stop hiding! The truth will set you free!!

Who says Allah didn't create everything in pair?


A Believer can give a better translation. You answer is contained therein:

[18:86] Al-Kahf-الْكَهْف
"حَتّٰۤی اِذَا بَلَغَ مَغۡرِبَ الشَّمۡسِ وَجَدَہَا تَغۡرُبُ فِیۡ عَیۡنٍ حَمِئَۃٍ وَّ وَجَدَ عِنۡدَہَا قَوۡمًا ۬ؕ قُلۡنَا یٰذَا الۡقَرۡنَیۡنِ اِمَّاۤ اَنۡ تُعَذِّبَ وَ اِمَّاۤ اَنۡ تَتَّخِذَ فِیۡہِمۡ حُسۡنًا ﴿۸۶﴾

Until he reached the boundary of (a locality towards) the west where he perceived the setting of the sun as if going down into a spring of (muddy black) hot water, and he found a people (living) there. We said: ‘O Dhu al-Qarnayn, (it is up to you) whether you punish them or treat them nicely.’

[18:90] Al-Kahf-الْكَهْف
"حَتّٰۤی اِذَا بَلَغَ مَطۡلِعَ الشَّمۡسِ وَجَدَہَا تَطۡلُعُ عَلٰی قَوۡمٍ لَّمۡ نَجۡعَلۡ لَّہُمۡ مِّنۡ دُوۡنِہَا سِتۡرًا ﴿ۙ۹۰﴾

Until he reached the boundary (of a locality in the direction) of the sunrise. There he perceived (the rising of) the sun (as if) it were rising on the people (living in that piece of land) for whom We had provided no cover (for protection) against the sun (i.e., they lived in the caves, without clothes and houses).

They said "in our mission school". No wahala nah.

zeuss:
how do you judge the accuracy and range of her movements with the sack she has on? this is ballet not dance..unless she is just an entertainer and not a competitive pro,. u will begin to see men wearing coats contest in body building competitions,..... Rubbish!!!

true.
As the accuracy and range of her movement depends on how much of the toto the judges fit see.

Tadeknkeepcalm:
No allow islamophobia run you mad ooo

LOL
LWKMD

yungmill:
Now you are lying again verse 4 refutes you! How do you kill a people before s treaty is violated? Why does the verse before verse 5 say absolutely nothing about violation of treaty but the verses after verse 5 then says viplatuon of treaty when they have already been subdued??

lying? I consider this an insult.

You desperate Christians should learn decorum.

A kafir that can teach me my religion has not been born and "may" never be born.

Kafir, read from a Believer:

[9:1] Al-Tawbah-التَّوْبَة
"بَرَآءَۃٌ مِّنَ اللّٰہِ وَ رَسُوۡلِہٖۤ اِلَی الَّذِیۡنَ عٰہَدۡتُّمۡ مِّنَ الۡمُشۡرِکِیۡنَ ؕ﴿۱﴾

Absolution (i.e., renunciation) is declared from Allah and His Messenger (blessings and peace be upon him) to those polytheists with whom you had made a treaty of peace (but they breached the truce and restored the state of war).

You can keep your filthy shahadah, continue your nonsense dabate and win.

yungmill:
Hey coward shut your mouth i gave you the opportunity to debate me and you ran scared i even said if you win i will take the shahada here! You can have multiple muslims by your side but still you ran like a coward a dog with its tail between its leg, like i said step up or shut up! If you have it bring it!

Oga, though every soul saved is important, don't use shahadah as a bait for any sense debate you will win.

Just say what you think and get an answer or not. Simple!

yungmill:
Verse 5 clearly says kill the unbelievers and never gave a reason other than they being disbelievers if am wrong then say it here no need to ask me to read!

You are wrong.

The reason was that the polytheists violated the treaty of peace and declared a state of war with the believers.

yungmill:
Verse 5 clearly says kill the unbelievers and never gave a reason other than they being disbelievers if am wrong then say it here no need to ask me to read!

Here is your surah 9

Quran عe

God
chapter 9 sura

1. A declaration of immunity from God and His Messenger to the polytheists with whom you had made a treaty.

2. So travel the land for four months, and know that you cannot escape God, and that God will disgrace the disbelievers.

3. And a proclamation from God and His Messenger to the people on the day of the Greater Pilgrimage, that God has disowned the polytheists, and so did His Messenger. If you repent, it will be better for you. But if you turn away, know that you cannot escape God. And announce to those who disbelieve a painful punishment.

4. Except for those among the polytheists with whom you had made a treaty, and did not violate any of its terms, nor aided anyone against you. So fulfill the treaty with them to the end of its term. God loves the righteous.

5. When the Sacred Months have passed, kill the polytheists wherever you find them. And capture them, and besiege them, and lie in wait for them at every ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayers, and pay the alms, then let them go their way. God is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful.

6. And if anyone of the polytheists asks you for protection, give him protection so that he may hear the Word of God; then escort him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know.

7. How can there be a treaty with the polytheists on the part of God and His Messenger, except for those with whom you made a treaty at the Sacred Mosque? As long as they are upright with you, be upright with them. God loves the pious.

8. How? Whenever they overcome you, they respect neither kinship nor treaty with you. They satisfy you with lip service, but their hearts refuse, and most of them are immoral.

9. They traded away God's revelations for a cheap price, so they barred others from His path. How evil is what they did.

10. Towards a believer they respect neither kinship nor treaty. These are the transgressors.

11. But if they repent, and perform the prayers, and give the obligatory charity, then they are your brethren in faith. We detail the revelations for a people who know.

12. But if they violate their oaths after their pledge, and attack your religion, then fight the leaders of disbelief—they have no faith—so that they may desist

Good.
I still can't see any issue there.

Still read v4,5,6,7, deeply. Without bias.

4 ...God loves the righteous.

5 ...God is most forgiving, most merciful.

6 ...And if anyone of the polytheists asks you for protection, give him protection so that he may hear the Word of God...

7 ...As long as they are upright with you, be upright with them. God loves the pious.

yungmill:
What is the neccesity that was stated there?

I perceive you are asking for clarifications, rather than, your mind been made up. Reason why i am still with you.

Pls, read from v1 to v12 of the chapter for a better understanding. If you still have a problem thereafter, bring it up.

brightDdon:
The more reason I don't associate with the north I see all of them as my enemy,,and I can never help them...I hate them with passion.

Do they associate with you?

yungmill:
The command given to yall in surah 9 emphasis on ayat 5!

Of course, we are to fight when it is necessary. Any issue with that.

shadeyinka:
Check the highlight and comment whether this statements are true or false
1.
Sura 51:49
And of every thing We have created pairs: That ye may receive instruction.
--
On the surface this seem true light/darkness, hill/valley, male/female, joy/sadness etc until you look deeper and see things like Bdelloidea which are ALL Female. Does it have a pair? What is its name?

The list is actually decently long : bacteria, fungi imperfecti, etc.
All members of the Monera Kingdom reproduce asexually only. Then, there are worms which reproduce sexually but all members of the species are the same, the individual worm is neither male nor female but has both sexual organs, it is a "hermaphrodite".
What is the pair of hermaphrodites?

2.
Quran 18:86
Till, when he [the traveller Zul-qarnain] reached
the setting-place of the sun,
he found it going down into a muddy spring, ...

Quran 18:90
Till, when he reached the rising-place of the sun,
he found it rising on a people
for whom We had appointed no shelter from it.

I will not argue whether Zul-qarnain is Alexander the great or not. The question is
Does the sun set into a muddy spring?
Where is the rising place of the sun?



Indeed, IF there is no error in the quran, kindly answer the questions in blue!

Stay on the matter.
These are completely different references.
As far as this thread is concerned i have answered you appropriately.

yungmill:
Explain surah 9 to us mr truth!

What about sura 9?

Demmzy15:
Decievers and liars, wolves in sheep clothing. A Yorùbá Muslim would marry them and then they'll change everyone in his household to christianity leaving only the man. He's marginalized if he refuses to join them, during Ramadan and all other Islamic activities, he's alone.

In the past, you want to be educated, they'll demand you become a Christian or pressure you to be one. Today, they'll chant about how they're one and the same with you, but at the same time harbor deep hate for you and your religion. A Yorùbá Christian here on nairaland thinks we'll send our children to schools with bomb when they wear Hijab.

Later that same despicable individual would be like: "In Yorùbaland, there's no Muslim or Christian, just Yorùbá". God punish them, awọn eleribu people

Very correct on your submissions.
I usually get shocked to hear the despicable things Yoruba Kafirs say about Islam and Muslims on NL, yet they want us to believe Yorubas don't discriminate in religion.

You get rewarded insha Allah, for this campaign against ignorance among Muslims in Yoruba lands.