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MaxInDHouse:
What exactly do you think Jesus came to do on this planet? Remember he is not of the same material with us {John 8:23} we were created from dust {Genesis 2:7} but Jesus is from another material so what exactly do you think brought him to this planet and what is the main goal of his teaching?

And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Colossians 1: 20

MaxInDHouse:
I have always told you the truth but it's obvious you hate truth. Jesus is just one man with a unique character so various schools of thought can't tell me they're all following this single man. If i should accept that then i'm not being sincere with my salvation!
The one and only group of people practicing what Jesus taught is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES but if you feel different about it then let's talk!

Set the ball rolling

MaxInDHouse:
Do you believe that just ONE man throughout mankind's history is the truth? John 14:6
If you do tell me but if you don't then go and practice whatever religion you wish.

Can't you just give direct answers?

Ok, let forget it.

MaxInDHouse:
The only problem you have with me is about Jesus having just one single global group, you find it really difficult to agree that Jesus will not endorse different religions having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines as his followers! Matthew 7:13-14
So if you want to chat with me on religion just know that my interest is in the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught, apart from that i'm not interested in fruitless arguments!

You present yourself as the only custodian of truth, you don't want the truth challenged?

MaxInDHouse:
This was your first comment on the thread




So if you think your religion is a cult it's OK, i only responded to you because you mentioned me!

Alright. I have experience with some of you. If I open a thread, as you once challenged, will you be honest to respond directly without beating about the bush?

atarapa:
Give us a date.

Future starts from now till eternity.


Forever is a long time.

By sleeping on the floor.

The beautiful ones are not yet born.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus was a humble first century Jewish teacher who speaks and teach only those that wants to learn from him. He established a group and warned that many false teachers will arise using his name to scam people.
Today millions around the world have found out that [b]the GB of Jehovah's Witnesses [/b]are the only group doing what Jesus taught so if you don't agree nobody is forcing what the group is doing on you.
Remember Jesus' disciples referred to him as "Lord" when some people looked at him and gave him a dirty slap. The same thing is applicable today. We know that the GB are his representatives today so if you don't want to learn from them you're free to go and choose your own teachers. No wahala!

In one word, people should baptize in Jehovah's witnesses Organization?

The thing is too lengthy. Except he will not leave Nigerian shores for life. His case would be like that of Solomon and shimei in the Bible. USA is still looking for the killer of J.F.Kennedy many decades after.

MaxInDHouse:
"Baptism into Jesus" is what you heard but do you know what it entails?

Well you asked for my opinion on what you're discussing with your friends here so if you want to talk about CULTISM i've told you the major motive of a cult group to dominate!

Now you take the two questions you want to categorize as been occultic into consideration.


Have you repented of your sins, dedicated yourself to Jehovah, and accepted his way of salvation through Jesus Christ?
Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?

These questions comes after a thorough study of the life and ministry of Jesus Christ as it is similar to what a group Jehovah's Witnesses are PRACTICING today, so have you found any other group performing like this group? If YES then go and join them but if not it simply means that's the one and only group practicing what Jesus commissioned back in the first century.
It's not by force neither do they impose their rules on anyone, that's exactly how Jesus established his group!

Domination?! What less is obtainable in JW organisation? All aspects of life are dictated by the GB.

Besides, baptism into Jesus. Romans 6:3; Acts 19:4.
Has Jw's Organisation replaced Jesus?.



Emphasis: baptized into Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:
CULTS is about domination, Jesus created a group of humble people that's what JWs is all about!

Lie, the scriptures talk about baptizing into Jesus,but your organisation baptize into JW organisation.

Two Questions to Be Answered on the Day of Your Baptism
Have you repented of your sins, dedicated yourself to Jehovah, and accepted his way of salvation through Jesus Christ?

Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?




What more is a cult? I deliberately leave out references. I believe you know them.

MaxInDHouse:
When people talk all you need to do is listen with the third ear so their utterances don't just travel through your brains.

What is the purpose why God established worship?
Who are those that has been involved in it in the past?
What are the expected benefits when God established worship back then?
What do people around you today expect from worship?

These people you're mingling with on Nairaland are ATHEISTS people who don't want anything to control their conscience yet they feel like living in the midst of other people and expect virtue from fellow humans. Do you think they should be taken seriously?

I often ignore them because they are deceiving themselves! Psalms 1:1


CULTS have a motive and that makes it totally different from worship, when people come together the first intention is to benefit themselves otherwise each of us should be living isolated in the forest having nothing to do with our fellow humans. But forming a society means we want to live together and help one another, not just wait until your fellowman gets into some trouble but taking the initiative to extend the friendship so that your fellowman will feel at ease around you.

So visiting one another and exchanging ideas will help you people to know how your neighbour feels towards you. That's why Jesus established a house to house uninvited visits to your neighbour {Matthew 10:10-13} what most humans concludes when they hear the word PREACH is setting standards for their neighbours but that's not the reason why Jesus commissioned preaching! He wants us to make friends with our neighbours so that you and your neighbour settle ahead issues that could lead to endless troubles in the future.
But Satan knew this will solve 99.9% of the problems facing the human society so Satan established his own to counter what Jesus commissioned. That's why most religionists today stay at a distance away throwing tantrums at their neighbours claiming they're preaching!
PREACHING simply means PLEADING with someone to reason along with you on certain thoughts so that both of you can reach a consensus not you setting up a standard and expecting your fellowman to swallow it hook line and sinker all because you added the title "GOD" to season your assertion.

So cultism entails establishing a group with the intention of gaining dominance over both members and none members, whereas religion is establishing a group with the intention of forming a close bond so as to understand one another and setting standards within the group of like minded persons.

But because Satan wants to dominate everyone the religions he initiated are for that purpose that's why they're always involved in Politics and that's why they can't find LOVE JOY and PEACE just as it befits the gathering of God's people!

Forming a society and an organisation, what is the difference? Every organisation has its ideals. JW organisation is geared towards'worship' and behaving, not different from any cult. Campaign for membership, initiation, in baptism into the organisation, punishment and / disfellowshippment for errant members. Separation or segregating from the body of Christ and rest of humanity.
You say?

AntiChristian:
So which Bible translation is correct and which are wrong? Do give reasons and stop diverting. Your statement is not logical.

All are correct. The Qur'an is the most illogical book ever written.

Alioune:
Peace to all Nigerians, and especially Muslims.

YouTube and the internet in general has now become a site preoccupied with a one-sided narrative that is geared towards attacking Muslims.

Everyone and their mother are allowed to make death threats towards certain Islamic ethnic groups with impunity, conjure up lies about Nigerian historty, use the most vile and slanderous verbiage towards others, etc.

But simply and respectfully correcting and debunking false narratives gets your comments blocked and/or deleted.

What kind of hypocrisy is this?

This is actually a violation of Universal Human Rights.

Muslims on nairaland, let your voices be heard on this thread.

Another Nairaland terrorism. A village has been attacked in Niger state by Islamic bandits leaving 18 people dead, true or false?

Maxymilliano:
This has become an everyday news in Nigeria ...

Even the President hardly expresses shock these days.

Jim shock absorber don leak finish.

Alfamann:
Talk is cheap.

Stupidity of the highest order. How much fight has Igbo out in northern Nigeria? How many businesses have northerners have anywhere in SE. Even now as Fulani are SE what are you doing?

vanbonattel:
There were no yorubas

Now go and sleep.

You are an illiterate: how many schools owners, doctors, engineers, academic were killed in south Africa? Only stupid people like you snatching prostitutes were affected.

vanbonattel:
Because the government of the day decided that the people being killed are southerners, so Buharri looked the other way

Imagine if the president is Igbo or yoruba?

How many Yorubas? Even at that, how much fight did Igbo put in south Africa? All you know is Aba and Alaba.
So nigeria should then break relationship with south Africa because of foolish people causing trouble in other people's land?

vanbonattel:
Let the break up of Nigeria happen first. Leave rubbish for Lawma.

Which hostility, we are already suffering hostility everywhere, Lagos inclusive. If things don't spoil, they might never get repaired.

Breaking up Nigeria will redefine standards as it will be nation vs nation now.

People like you are the those unreasonable elements. If the break - up happens, you will now fight in another sovereign land. How much fight did you put in South Africa when they were killing igbos?

How much of igbos are tied 100% to South East?
It took one Hitler who has been nursing hatred against Jews to kill six million Jews, has heaven fallen? I lived in the North and witnessed the behaviour of average northerner to Igbos. Anyways, I don't blame them, Igbos behave especially the illiterate like you as if the owners of their land are foolish. They make Igbos their target during riots. How many driven from Kano, Jos, Kaduna, who could not bounce back to normal business life. Life is about friendship not making enemies.
There are so many decent Igbo people whose contributions to host communities cannot be overstated. To Alaba tout like you, are trouble makers. I have witnessed Igbo businesses ruined in millions. A bragger like you may not be sure if good living, making mouth because you hold a smartphone.
The healthy coexistence between Igbo and Yoruba race should not be jeopardized.

This is serious. I don't fully agree with this write-up on some points. The undertone of it is that there are some aggrieved Yorubas that are just tolerate Igbos. If there is a break up of Nigeria today, there could be a move to oust Igbo people out. The claim of no man's land stupidity of Igbos could forment trouble. Many innocent, decent of them could be badly affected.
In the Northern Nigeria, after break up, if it ever materialized,Igbos will not find life too easy. Yorubs are still lenient and accommodating, the disposition of the Hausa- Fulani will be better imagined.

Buhari bragged more than that. This man hasn't fixed kogi in how many years now.


Yeye fọn spoil nigeria.

Ajá tó maa sọnu, kíì gbọ fere odẹ.

Í lile His struggle and passion. I a remain his fan. When he began to throw mud on our leaders: spiritual and traditional, I began to have mixed feelings about his idea of the struggle.
I pray for him and loud mouthed Kanu. Their approaches are not too acceptable.
I pray you ( both) get your freedom soon and in good health.

Useless people, same way Zik, betrayed Awolowo. This struggle for freedom of today wouldn't have been necessary.

The idiots who read wrong pages of history or are wrong people themselves can no longer have rest in their father's land.

Awo, forgive them from the great beyond.

Janosky:
Hébrews 13:15.
Hebrews 13:15 & Hebrews 10:10 is NOT Naira, dollars or pounds sterling your gods of men will store in secret offshore tax havens.
Mumu WAILER

You are not honest: give definition of sacrifice.

AntiChristian:
Yeah, he was a superman! An unlettered who can't read nor write manipulated Jewish scriptures...

Blatant liar!

Why did he mention Torah and Injeel, no prior knowledge of them at all?

Janosky:
Continue DECEIVING yourself.
Hebrews 13:15, the Bible truth about sacrifice dey pain you for brain

Janosky, simple question: define sacrifice

Unlettered:
Are we discussing him writing manipulated jewish scriptures or you re trying to shift the post to “knowing about christianity?”.

Muslims and islam is all about monotheism - one God. The other religions (jews, christians) have different messengers but the message has always been same.

Antichristian

Who manipulated Jewish scriptures for what purpose?

Igboho amala!

AntiChristian:
The book of 1Samuel 13:1 and its translation in versions of the Bible has caused a great embarrassment for Christian apologists:

1.NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION
Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years.

2. ENGLISH STANDARD VERSION
Saul lived for one year and then became king, and when he had reigned for two years over Israel.

3. KING JAMES BIBLE
Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

4. NET BIBLE
Saul was [thirty] years old when he began to reign; he ruled over Israel for [forty] years.

5. NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE 1977
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned thirty-two years over Israel.

6. JPS TANAKH 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

7. AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

8. YOUNG'S LITERAL VERSION
A son of a year is Saul in his reigning, yea, two years he hath reigned over Israel

Antichristian, you are not in any position to understand the Bible. Your Qur'an has so many shameful errors. The message of the Bible is clear to us Christians. To an antichrist, it is a burden of fear. Fear of the truth. Islam is a scam.

AntiChristian:
Yeah, he was a superman! An unlettered who can't read nor write manipulated Jewish scriptures...

Blatant liar!

So, he didn't know anything about Christianity in his time?