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Cina the poet, tear him for his bad verses!

William Shakespeare ( Julius Caesar)

Kobojunkie:
God does not choose church for any man. So please take responsibility for your choice.

Are you everyone? When it comes to man and ' revelation' or God said, I have learned to leave them alone.

That is no problem in that. You can see electricity as wires. An electrician will know better.

There is a problem here. I once asked on a thread, why are Christians only travellers to hell?
Again, all prophets that write the Bible needn't die before God will speak to them. When did this start?

MaxInDHouse:
Only Jehovah's Witnesses are taught to answer questions from that book, others are only seeking miracles to their problems. So if you truly want to know just humble ask but if you feel like waiting for your fellow Church people i'll excuse you!

Is that reason you backed out when we were discussing similarities between religion and culture?

He is his personal marabout.

MaxInDHouse:
Tí ojú bá f'ara balẹ̀ á rí imú
Brother Lett is the one and we know they made lots of mistakes before getting things right later because they are also part of the people God's word referred to as "sinners" "prone to errors"
Mind you, everyone today wants to buy Computers, Telephones, Cars, Televisions, Sound System, Mobile Devices even private jets.
But have you ever seen anyone talking about the several mistakes the inventors of this things made before getting things right?
I don't think so, everyone just want to enjoy this good things no one cares about the history of the makers or the several mistakes they made before the success.
God has been planning this things for thousands of years now but He (God) said when imperfect humans finally get things right this are the signs we will all SEE to know that He is dealing with them.
(1) They will start gathering people from all races and training them on what the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob wants {Isaiah 2:2} so if care is not taken you will say they have brainwashed all those joining them after all they will all work hard to have the same line of thought! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10

(2) They will start taking the peaceful invitation to all the nations {Matthew 28:19-20} so that individuals who love oneness may join in the wonderful arrangement, then they will settle all their racial disparities among themselves {Isaiah 2:3} and the result, they will divert all their resources towards the production of food and information materials. That's why JWs have bethel homes in any country where they're allowed to excel and there they make farms and printing Bibles and Bible based literatures: Spiritual food!

(3) They will erase racism and politics in their midst so that there will be no cause for military services or idea of raising weapons against anyone! Isaiah 2:4 compare to Matthew 5:43-48; 26:52

Of course there will be lots of errors when imperfect humans are coming together to work with an invisible superior being nah!
But in the end you will SEE the success {Matthew 5:13-16} so it will be left to you whether you will join in making things better or criticize them but honest hearted and sincere individuals like me will keep asking you just one question:
Have you found a better performing group than this one?
It's like when you see someone whose only interest is to talk about the history of the makers of Aircraft and all their errors. Please don't you think it will be reasonable to ask him: Have you found some other makers of vessels carrying people fast across the oceans?

Woe to those saying "good is bad" Isaiah 5:20

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

What is your point, if your leaders are prone to mistakes, why criticising other leaders mistakes with relish? This is hypocrisy I have been talking about.
Anyways, I don't see anything wrong in the broadcast. I have watched him a number of times.

achorladey:
Did you follow my own line of argument... MightySparrow

Yes, and the reason is why I said why will a religious organisation jump on JEHOVAH and begin to impress it on everyone that this is God's personal name and must be used or went ahead to say what they call God's personal name was removed from the Bible whereas that name itself never originated with the religious organization and the name was coined just some six hundred years AGO while other names used have been in existence long before JEHOVAH came into the picture.

Reality tell us what Moses heard God pronounced wasn't JEHOVAH .

Ok to whom was revealed this name? How is the name to be used?

achorladey:
MightySparrow, why not concentrate on one side then after you've gotten the sense of what JWs are saying try to concentrate on what other people are saying then figure out which one is consistent?... MaxInDHouse

Well due to to language limitations, I personally don't believe there is any words put together that can describe God..... MightySparrow

You sure you see this before typing the above about MightySparrow?

The person you're responding to has nothing to offer other than criticism!.... MaxInDHouse

Considering you cannot lay a single hold against my post so far . After all from your darling religious leaders said CRITICISM is not UNCHRISTIAN . Pe le ti e.

I am not like you who said a particular part of the Bible was not translated well enough when you lack expertise in that field in the first place.

I can't make anything out of this post.

This is Stephen Lett. I don't see anything wrong in this broadcast. Though, I disagree with some of their interpretationss. They are based on assumptions

Or FG attacked .....

achorladey:
Why do you think the name jehovah takes precedence over this. I have read and heard your people claiming that jehovah is God's personal name... MightySparrow


Key question you raised. When they come out and say God's name was removed from the Bible you begin to wonder who is really removing what in particular.

Even this Jehovah they use here and there didn't originate with their religious organization.

Did you follow my own line of argument? God Himself, introduced Himself as to Moses, who probably, didn't hear about God based on his background and said,........' this is my name forever.....' then introduced another. name. Which of these is not personal name?

When he is asleep, he is more awake than Bubu running 100 metres p

donforeign:
Nice move..
Was expecting Barca and psg to appoint him but Dem dey mumu

My thought too

Jail the yeye Man and the team of engineers building the project.

MaxInDHouse:
The name JEHOVAH simply means
"He causes to become" "A lè wí lè ṣe"
So when JEHOVAH told Moses "I will become whatever i choose to become" He is expatiating on the meaning of the name "JEHOVAH" which He told Moses that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob never saw Him exhibit the full meaning of His name! Exodus 6:2-3

The KJV translated that part as "I am what i am"

And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. Exodus 3:14 KJV


So God said to Moses: “I Will Become What I Choose to Become.” And he added: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘I Will Become has sent me to you.’” Exodus 3:14 NWT

If you truly want to understand God's word you need to read, study and compare different versions, then meditate thoroughly on the words each translator choose to use for these texts before you can really get the sense of what you're reading in the Bible! Proverbs 2:1-5

JEHOVAH simply means "He causes to become" which is the reason why He told Moses "i will become whatever i choose to become" the translators of KJV tried but their rendering of that phrase "i am that i am" distorted the meaning of what God said in that verse!

Well due to to language limitations, I personally don't believe there is any words put together that can describe God.

I agree with you this time partially. Because in Genesis 17. He told Abraham that He is Almighty, capable of doing, becoming, undoing all and everything.

MaxInDHouse:
I told you that you're free to ask me questions about whatever i say but since you choose to talk about me with others instead of chatting with me my own concern is the highlighted!

Remember that everyone on this planet speaks the same language before God confused their language {Genesis 11:1-9} so what makes you think that same God doesn't know the original language out of all others?
Well in my own opinion the Hebrew language must be the original language everyone speaks before the confusion otherwise it will make no sense if God choose a nation speaking one out of the (CONFUSED) languages then promised that all the peoples will still come back to speak one language {Zephaniah 3:9} when the nation through which it will be made possible aren't even speaking the original language! Zechariah 8:23
I'm not contesting what you said but i believe in the language God Himself speaks first after the confusion at Babel {Genesis 12:1-3} which is Hebrew God spoke with Abraham and as for the language of Abraham well he was known by his contemporaries as (the Hebrew) Genesis 14:13

May you have PEACE!

So, God's language is Hebrew? If He created everyone, confused their language He understands and relates with people by His own standard (election). Well, Hebrew may have been the original language.

My take, God revealed Himself to Moses, he said, I am

15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. Exodus 3: 15.

Since God confirmed this name, though long, can we still put it today wherever we see God in the scriptures? Or must be jehovah as claimed? Mind you, He said,' This is my name forever and my memorial. Why do you think the name jehovah takes precedence over this. I have read and heard your people claiming that jehovah is God's personal name.


The former one is not personal?

elated177:
Again, go and do your own research.

Thanks bro. These self acclaimed teachers that assume that besides them, no one knows anything about God! In response to my post on this thread, MaxInDHouse was saying that everyone that know God called on God by His name Jehovah. That is a lie. Before Egyptian civilization was Aramaian. The earliest universal language was Aramaic.the question is which language (s) were spoken by Adam, Enoch, Noah? Definitely not Hebrew. The name jehovah first in the time of Moses. Abraham himself, was a Syrian, an Arab. From there, a group of people known as Hebrew came out. The restes of Abraham's descendants from other two wives are still Arabs till today! The name jehovah is in what language? Hebrew, I think, because Abraham himself should have heard of it somehow.


Anyways, JWs wants to harass you into believing their doctrines.
When Paul got to Greece, he saw an altar built to an unknown God. He claimed that that unknown God is who he came to present to them.

No one, nation, people that didn't no God before Christian faith. According to


19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Romans 1: 19 -24

If Paul was right, in every place people knew about God and hence, called Him names in their languages
Olorun, Ubangiji, Chineke, Theos etc
In every place except the Greek place mentioned above, there are none or few where altars are raise for the Almighty God. People call on Him the way they understood.

The main idea behind this teaching is to deny the Godhood ( Godhead) of Jesus. And that is a lie.

Jide + ofor: Father, Igbo, mother, Yoruba.+ Israeli - India.

MaxInDHouse:
What if i tell you that people knew God's personal name throughout the earth before God confused their language?
Well it's after fallen angels have become Gods and given people different names that the true God called Abraham and introduced himself!
So people knew back then that Adam, Abel, Enoch, Noah all knew God by His personal name not just God or Lord!

No proof. When God introduced himself to Moses, it was then, He told Moses ' Jehovah ' before then, He told Moses the name that Abraham didn't know by Jehovah but another. Even the name given to Abraham was not abandoned. Exodus 3: 15.

So, is it wrong to call God by that name today?

MaxInDHouse:
Please can you explain what this Bible book says here:

And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD. Genesis 4:26 KJV

I know you MightySparrow and how this meant much to you but má bàá ọ̀bọ jáwùrà, gbìyànjú kòó lóye ọ̀rọ̀ yìí nítorí ìgbàlà rẹ!

Which name did they call upon in Genesis 4: 26?

Bukasint:
Abeg shut up....you guys want Drs to live a stereotype life. You don't force people to do what you think it's a norm for some set of people and abnormal for others. Your type are chronic forincator, who will be ready to lynch others for doing same. Nothing will do you good, if you mind your dam business on other people's life.

Are you a doctor? If you are in the military, you live the life of a soldier. I have yet to meet an aggressive doctor. They are always calm and composed, having a respectable carriage. They deal with life to save lives. Even those trained to kill, don't present themselves anyhow. You don't believe me, when next you meet a soldier, step on his well polished shoes.
Don't you see, it a shameful thing for a doctor, showing her bumbum in the public?

I remember the leaked sex video of the Babcock student. The university didn't think twice to eject her. She represented a religious institution.

May you are agbero self, why this analysis?

If you are a Performing Arts student, we will sympathise with you. Certain professions go with certain ethics and finesse. I remember my days in the University, a medical student was seen by his lecturer at the scene of riot, carrying stick. His was told by the lecturer that, he fail that year. He failed.

Doctors give themselves a Honourable carriage. So do lawyers, Accountants, Engineers........
Performing Artists can do anything to become 'celebrities' ( yeyebrities) for a doctor in whose hands lives are trusted? Aha!

abouzaid:
Igbo kwenu. Although, i know guys shipping Onitsha made products to the USA to be sold in African shops. When would the North actually contribute anything useful to the Nigerian economy? Economic parasites.

What about Banditry, Boko Haram, cow on one hand, AK-47 on the other.

What more.

Mokason288:
Christianity is gradually becoming a joke

Huge joke firstly, because before the advent of Christianity, Africans are used to finding out the future using mediums. The first set of Christians received confusion. When things were not going on the way they wanted, the began to bring tradition into the church. Ògbóni Confraternity entered the church. The Aladura Church which major on visions.

Then CAC followed and now Pentecostal with varying degrees of madness. The annoying thing is that the Pastors now bring jesters to the church making mockery of the Bible.
I think this madness is only loud in Africa! The Bushiris, the Uerbert Angel, Iginla.......
Anything in the hands of African becomes something else.

haddeylium:
God's name Jehovah appears more than 7,000 times in the Bible.
BYINGTON, AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION,ROTHERHAM.
In KJV, you can find it in Exodus 6:3, Psalm 83:18, Isaiah 12:2; 26:4 and it was removed in more than 7,000 other places it occurs and replaced with capital LORD.

Before Exodus 6;3 was God known by any name?
Which other versions other than the one shown above? What makes it special?

haddeylium:
This God's name Jehovah appear originally more than 7,000 times in the bible. It's so sad that Man (not God) has removed and substituted God's name with mere titles like LORD and God (in some bible translations).
Note: Title is different from a personal Name.
Buhari is not the same as President.



Most answers claim that the reason is because “Jehovah” is not the correct pronunciation of God’s name in Old Hebrew. But that does not explain why Yahweh —or whatever the correct pronunciation is supposed to be— is not in most bibles either.
So, I’d say that that is not the reason.

Another , some considered that God’s personal name was too sacred to be pronounced out of respect for Judaism superstitious belief , of whom Jesus said: “You have made the word of God invalid because of your tradition.”—Matt. 15:6
This is baseless as well.


it's impossible that we'll be in close relationship with a friend that we don't know his personal name. God is not nameless, his titles are not his name. He has a real personal name.

Ex. 3:15: “God said . . . to Moses: ‘This is what you are to say to the sons of Israel, “Jehovah the God of your forefathers . . . has sent me to you.” This is my name to time indefinite, and this is the memorial of me to generation after generation

Psalm 83:18(KJV)
That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

Conclusively, the central part of Jesus assignment on Earth is to make this God's name known.(Read John 7:26).
Is God's name as important to y


ou as it is to Jesus?

Having a close relationship with God involve getting to know him by name

This is interesting, where is the name Jehovah started in the Bible which translation?

God Word says we should learn from nature. What you don't see in animals, is wrong with humans.
God's commandments are not grievous.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Romans 1: 20 - 32

Benwallt:
Too wonderful

Too raised to power Chelsea wonderful

petra1:
pls read my post again. I quoted what he said



I'm not justifying his lifestyle. We should preach to people about eternal life through faith. Not preaching about dressing or habits of people. it's after a man receive Christ that lifestyle can change. Those who condemn dressing, drinking etc in evangelism are not preaching christ perfectly. ability to change comes thriugh salvation

John 1:12
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Remember Charlie boy once went to a popular church years ago. dressed I chains etc. he was not allowed in because of his appearance. but same Charlton boy gave his heart to christ in christ embassy Abuja and now he no longer dressing provocatively.

Ok Sir

petra1:
That's the result when preachers preach on salvation through works instead of through faith. salvation should have been preached to him and not attacking his dressing styles. that should have come after he's saved

He is not claiming not to know what is right but stubbornly rejecting it. I don't think it is any preachers' blame. The practice is not copied from anyone in his family. He is on his own.

Everything in this government is fake. I begin to doubt if Nigeria is not fake itself.