₦airaland Forum

overhypedsteve:
open bodied. What's the difference between this and a pick up. That's a frea#ing widow maker.

Built for the military.

tdayof:
Thanks @mike


Oh good. How many months will production take and what's the last known info from Nigeria about ghe rooivalk.

It is will depend on the ambition.

Nigeria has shown interest in the helicopter. Major General Irabor Operation Lafiya Dole's commander was in SA to witness the testing of the Mokopa missile on the helicopter.

Witness and enquire about the helicopter. Stuff about endurance, range when airborne etc.

tdayof:
How much does an export version cost per unit?

There's only one production model and the base production prototype.

Unknown. Was marketed as the cheapest heavy combat support helicopter.

Price will always depend on the deal.

tdayof:
Henry, I am still waiting for your view on the video I posted.

Yes, we have an airforce but I can guarantee you those guys made a distress call that they were under an ambush. In less than 30 minutes, the airforce should have been able to mobilise an attack on those BHT.
I saw a video or probably a write-up that the airforce can mobilise an attack within 15 minutes anywhere in Nigeria so why did they neglect those officers?
I keep asking why the airforce doesn't come in to rescue officers on ambush. Most of NAF videos are offensive. Are we scared of those jet being shot down? What happened to ECM installations?

Still developing doctrine?

Henry240:
NNS Karaduwa's cockpit

Cockpit?

Odunayaw:
Young man
you saw the order & sanity in the group and u chose to charge in like red bororo cow

shame on you!
#spits

I don't know what a bororo cow is but he is indeed one.

Cobra HMD system.
Type used by SAAF on the Gripens.

overhypedsteve:
F#cking pervert. The worst that ever happened to south Africa in the area of technological development was the fall of apartheid. South Africa under the white supremacist rule was a world player. Militarily and politically. The only African state that took part in the Breton Woods arrangement. I wonder what those guys could have achieved.

Priorities.

Sanctions and the destabilization policies of the apartheid regime meant the military one way or another had to be well equipped and hold the line until politicians decided to head to the table.

South Africa spent over 5% of it's GDP on defence. CSIR is the nucleus of South Africa's defence industry. The missiles, Mine protected vehicles, Helicopters etc have their roots in CSIR.

South Africa is still light years ahead of many countries around the world some with bigger economics. Maintaining "above third world country" Research and development capabilities.

Regarding the Breton woods arrangement. Field Marshal Jan Smuts was still around(WWII) things changed after his death leading to the introduction of apartheid not that he didn't support segregation policies. He was part of the British war cabinet.


It is just a cycle between war and peace. After world war 2 conditions were almost the same as today.

giles14:
am beginning to believe dat d Chinese stole d blueprint from d US

https://mobile.twitter.com/OedoSoldier/media/grid?idx=1

Both pictures show the J-20?

nemesis2u:
BHIM SPG

denel 155 mm gun mated to arjun chassis , this had real potential , even cleared trials , got killed due to stupid law to ban all existing contracts if one contract from the same company is investigated for corruption. this happened in the early 90s.

india has been half killed by the previous stupid and MF politicians and govts .

present govt. is good and they removed such stupid self defeating laws , existing contracts will go through unless part of corruption

hope bhim is revived in better and modern avatar

I believe it would be foo..lish for Denel to offer the system to the Indian army again.

As it isn't really about offered capabilities.

Henry240:
Very impressive. Nawa!!

For a tiny country, you guys are kicking.

Not really.
The population yes.

chkil:
off topic .. The russian fleet led by the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier reaches the Algerian coast

I always when I read western media analysis about this fleet.

Ignoring it's anti-surface, sub-surface and anti-air capabilities.

africaken254:
that the problem with south africa ! your ambition does go farther than your neighbouring countries or sub-Sahara countries.that why i know for sure that south african isn't the future of sub sahara countries,we need a truly progressive sub sahara country to be our leader

Business.

SADC is currently quiet.

Except for mostly countries neighbouring other regions like the DRC.

africaken254:
when south africa deployed its Gripen jets in uganda during the CAR incident,how could they south african's known if chads had also deployed its MIG-29's near its border with CAR

Nothing to be worried about.

The jets would have been used for patrols, precision strikes, CAS etc.

Anyway! Chad has around 2-3 Jets wouldn't affect much planning at the strategic level.

Infrastructure.

africaken254:
i have a question i need to ask south africans,follow me to that thread

Ask me.

Henry240:
Prove that he is a South-African?

I can prove we turned your commandos into mechanics.

What commandos?

africaken254:
could you enlighten me by telling which type of jamming devices do have in your gripen jets ?

Internal system.


EWS-39 system.

africaken254:
could you enlighten me by telling which type of jamming devices do have in your gripen jets ?

Internal system.


EWS-139 system.

africaken254:
russia R-27T infrared-homing AAM has no known infrared homing AAM that can be compared with it when its comes to range,also the gripen would have had limited air to air fighting capability due to its bomb load

Range of missile is a bit misleading.

The IRIS-T SRAAM is one competitive missile in it's class.

tdayof:
That is the issue. The Nigerian army should buy the MRAP and the NAF should get an AWACS. The AWACS will perform the work of ATR too so I do not see how that is a waste of money.

Joint operations.

ActivateKruger:
Mmmh with an assault rifle? Poor kids

Best class ever.

chinese8107:
I think the hardest thing is the price, having smart muniton or not is an option, but with $ USD 5-7.5 mn price range and 3 tons payload,very little country can make this. Antonov An-2 An-3,Chinese Y-5 is cheap but payload not enough ,needs to upgrade to use composite material add some contermeasures against MANPADS. the same as Pucara.

It won't be easy,as new plane needs lot of tests,adding to the cost.

Not pitching anything not sales person.

kikuyu1:

Take several seats with your Mwari! There's no way a slow single engined low payload would be used for anything but poaching/border watch ops!! Chinese8107,hold your peace,please.

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It's performance is competitive with aircraft within it's class like Brazilian Super Tucano.

Both are powered by a single Pratt & Whitney Canada turboprop engine. The Pucara is powered two less powerful engines. Planned upgrades includes using P & W engines.

Regarding payload the Argentine aircraft is only rated at + 6G. The other two aircraft have 5-6 hard points.

The Mwari and the Super Tucano will have better sensor systems, EW suites, weapons etc

Remember the Rhodesian Lynx aircraft?

It is similar(To the Mwari) in design with twin tail booms. Used effectively in light strikes, counter insurgency, airborne communications relay, over watch etc. Armed with rockets, bombs (napalm, cluster etc), Twin 7,7mm machine guns etc. The small arms danger is reduced by the aircraft's capability to carry missiles and smart bombs with a bit of stand off range(4km+).

kikuyu1:
The Arhlac is an interesting design but its design isn't what we need. Its primarily a border watch/anti poaching ops bird not for COIN/CAS. Ok,nemesis2u,here's our task. Buy the Pucara production rights from the Argentines and reverse engineer to the specs below. Idk why but the pic won't show! Anyway no prob.

There are different versions of the ARHLAC.

The military version is named Mwari.

Missiles, bombs (dumb and smart), radar (most COIN planes don't carry one), cannon etc.

Wish Denel A-Darter missile or any missile in that class to be intergrated on the plane. Giving it anti-helicopter capabilities.

ActivateKruger:
They're should defect down south. They could refuel in Zambia and fly straight to Limpopo. Having two SU 27s wouldn't be bad for a case study.

SA pilots flew the SU-27.

giles14:
the Russians need to update there air doctrine. is dere d possibility of having stealth missile

Pilot training is the reason behind those looses. Russians are way better.

Majority of, if not all modern BVRAAMs use active radar guidance. Putting out waves in search of the target mostly in the terminal phase of their flight. Meaning their approach isn't really quiet.

SRAAMs mostly use IR seekers meaning they maintain a passive flight even in the attacking terminal phase. This method of guidance operates like an eye though looking out for IR signatures.

I believe many air combat kills will still be WVR.

bidexiii:
China to unveil new M20 short-range tactical missile system at Zhuhai Airshow 2016


http://defence-blog.com/news/china-to-unveil-new-m20-short-range-tactical-missile-system-at-zhuhai-airshow-2016.html

SANDF tactical missile system.

Henry240:
Lionel4power, why are you trying so hard to ruin this thread?


Please post on topic, or you'll get a ban.



Mikecza, Tdayof, Giles14 take your discussion elsewhere.

Stop throwing cigarette butts knowing you are in the bush.

giles14:
tym for those massive ships are over.

but d leader class is not too bad,its in desam class as d DDG1000

Says who?

Peter is in a class of it's own.

The Zumwalt is still undergoing trials.

Cannonleo:
The russkies decided to showcase its shiny new toys of its sole carrier while crossing the English channel in a world that thought massive naval deployment was an alien word to them , damn I wonder what NATO nd the crew of the type 45 was thinking.

Meanwhile, the hear signature of the admiral kuznesov is definitely massive.

Why aren't people paying much attention to it's escort?!?


She's escorted by Peter! Peter the fuc....king awesome great dudes!


Russia should develop similar vessels.

ActivateKruger:
Maybe, but he insists he was armed with with a pistol and had an unusual camera for a tourist, the "hitman" was wearing what he claimed were SADF standard issued sneakers which were the first thing he and his friends noticed when he was paddling the bicycle.

Note that even in their bases liberation fighters kil.lled and accused each of being spi..es.

It was so bad. Some were just settling scores or the commisars just didn't like you.

ActivateKruger:
I know a former MK who said they once encountered Recce operator in Mozambique using that bicycle (on civilian clothing) in the 80s. He claim they executive him on the spot.

Such stories should be taken with a pinch of salt.