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africaken254:
ok

sudanese soldier in yemen,posing next to a UAE Oshkosh M-ATV MRAP

After watching Taking fire I rather be in a Reva or the RG series APCs than the M-ATV.

frumentius:
And of course, you guys joined in too. One good thing is it resulted in the birth and growth of your comms/radio manufacturing industry.
Sanctions never seem to work as intended in our neck of the woods .

If our economies allowed most SADC would use the same equipment.

As it is seen with SA, Namibia and I think Angola's acquisition of the Desert wolve diesel stoves.

chinese8107:
WS-43 suicide drone 122mm rocket

Anti-radiation drone?
SA designed something similar in the 90s.
There's also an Israeli one.

nemesis2u:
https://i.imgur.com/2sIcfiB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/o2TrC1Y.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cGhyuAR.jpg

TATA DENEL 155mm 52 cal truck mounted gun being tested.

DENEL -gun
TATA -FCS/electronics and platform

Hopefully they learned their lesson when bidding in international tenders.

It isn't just about the product. Regardless how good it is.

nemesis2u:
yes it is widely fielded worldwide and effective too .

https://i.imgur.com/bETYfBC.jpg
years back Indians together with israeli soltam upgraded M46 to 155mm 45 cal as shown above but that did not work , so later Indians came up with their own upgrade if u look at the barrel it is from the desi bofors dhanush

https://i.imgur.com/zKC4IjL.jpg
same muzzle brake and same 155mm 45 cal barrel

Hybrid.

What did the upgrade include?

nemesis2u:
https://i.imgur.com/zKC4IjL.jpg

M-46 130mm guns upgraded to fire 155mm 45 calibre rounds

One of the most effective guns ever produced.

Prior to the introduction of the G5 155mm howitzer into service with the South African army the only gun offering better range was the heavy M107 175mm howitzer(American). Besides it's long range the M-46 was deadly accurate.

Meaning at times though massive it could be used as a direct fire and anti-tank weapon.

The South African army captured some in Angola. They might be possibility handed to then Kwachas.

Henry240:
I could not careless about his title or what you South-Africans call him. It lays to waste your ignorant argument, that's an RSA commando on duty and online.


This argument is done.

@ssaengine was talking about special forces not special operations forces.

The chap you posted is not an operator.

Henry240:
He's a South-African commando. That's is all that matters, I've proven my point and this argument is no longer up for a debate.

He's not a "commando".

You didn't prove anything.

ActivateKruger:
Hehehe, it's a home picture, no gear on, no weapons, not in field... Try harder something harder.

Not SF.

Henry240:
I believe Mr Selfie taking RSA Airborne Commando has taken permission to take this selfie. You probably think everyone in Africa is illiterate as South-Africans back home.


If i decide to search further on Instagram, I am sure going to get more photos.

A qualified Special forces operator.

Henry240:
I believe Mr Selfie taking RSA Airborne Commando has taken permission to take this selfie. You probably think everyone in Africa is illiterate as South-Africans back home.


If i decide to search further on Instagram, I am sure going to get more photos.

What is a "RSA Airborne commando"?


PT instructor.

Airborne assault.

Paratrooper(Static line)

Are his qualifications.

nemesis2u:
https://i.imgur.com/8dcIyru.jpg

good take aim carefully
and now press the trigger
and turn back to see the guy at ur rear burnt into cinders

You just reminded me of Abu Hajah!

Roasting his comrades with an RPG.

nemesis2u:
lol unfortunately Human error will take its toll on both sides

Russian always relied on simplicity at times.
Blinkers for humans would be used for the men on the ground.

nemesis2u:
stupid anti spam bot bans me on wimp last time i tried to reply to u

that is why i never favor comparison of aircraft's.

aircraft's are designed with certain objectives/roles which again depends on the pilots and the tactic they run , which again is dependent on the operating air forces doctrine which is manifested in the type of weapons, sensors, experience, network centric capability, ability to sustain operational tempo etc etc
many aircraft's nowadays are multirole/swingrole but Pilots are not because pilots r more or less oriented for different tasks/tactics .
eg in IDAF, the F-16 Soufa flights, some flights are more oriented to interception while others are more oriented to strike and pilots posted to those flights are trained accordingly.

I concur but pilots today no longer have to worry about flying the aircraft but also operate it's various systems.


So pilots must be trained for those roles. Similar to ground troops whom have many courses available to take. Sniping, Marksmen etc.

Not all pilots will be qualified all roles the machine is able to undertake.

Henry240:
He plans to (like a bucket list), it has nothing to do with charity. I think it was Jake who regramed his page. When i come across that page again, i'll post it here.


I must have shared his photos in this page. I'll check.

Received permission.

Even regulars can't post stuff from the mission area. Including the boarder.

Henry240:
Nigerian Ships patrol as far as the Coast of Equitorial Guinea to Senegal. That's significantly larger than South-Africa's coast.

Nigeria currently operate, NNS Thunder, NNS Okpobana, NNS Prosperity, NNS Centenary, NNS Ologbo, NNS Nwamba, NNS Ohue and NNS Barama have also joined in. That is 8 ships for patrol duties. With NNS Unity to join the fleet, we have 9 ships. How you came by 2? There is also the Falcon eye and RMAC systems which compliment Naval patrols. Yet the Nigerian navy has consistently said the service requires more ships.


It simply goes to say our currently available ships are not sufficient for naval duties.

Actually South Africa's search and rescue area is vast from Antarctica all the way to the Northern Angolan boarder.

ssaengine:
MRLS has been seen for years, hence i didn't mention it. I'm genuinely interested in seeing Hornet Mortar pics from before this year, again, I'll wait. Not saying there wasn't even one pic available, but it was not seen and posted publicly willy nilly.

Look how you mention that one guy, doing something clearly worth mentioning (climbing 7 peaks). Kindly tell me what to search on insta
for me to find him, I want to see all the juicy pics he posts. Yes please post your most juicy SA Special Forces pics here, thanks.

You keep deciding to jump in on my posts. So please, show us SA special forces pics.

How about a missile on the vehicle?

Easy job for those taking and making notes regarding certain units and their standards.

Henry240:
Your ignorance. I find ignorance to be very nauseating.


A bit of common sense would tell you perhaps if i could remember his name i would have shared it. His image was "regramed" to a Nigerian military page i follow. When i come across his page again, I'll share it in this thread.

Probably received permission since it was for charity.

nemesis2u:
OHLALA !!!!!

talk about DECOYS to distract enemy pilots

Offering close in protection to the batteries.

Human error will be the biggest causr of mission failures once these DECOYS are deployed to the field.

patches689:
Parabats aren't secretive... Those vehicles were seen for the first time very recently, 2014 I believe

I have yet to see proper pics of currently serving Recces or guys from 7 Medical Battalion

Who is this guy on Instagram?

The "parabats" are regular SANDF paratroopers.

There's the pathfinders which are up there with the SF.

patches689:
Why so emotional?
Who is this guy on Instagram?

Probably received permission.

ssaengine:
There are thousands & thousands of U.S special forces. Navy Seals have always been hollywood boys. Show us pics/faces of " Seal Team 6" please...i'll wait. African militaries are much smaller & hence their special forces. For their specialist roles, they dont seem to take operational security seriously.

And NO those U.S special forces guys are not clearly visible. Infact they all look the same. Would you be able to identify them when mingling in the street? As opposed to Africans (and others) who post selfies on Insta? Please

Seal team 6 included.

You won't hear much about Delta operators. Like their ops in Somalia.

Majority of those pictures aren't taken by the operators but the media as they operate with local forces on the ground.

nemesis2u:
@henry240 giles14 bidexiii tdayof jakeporeshenko africaken254 M14A1 MikeCZA chkil and others whats ur view on the above article

Covered mostly the hardware.

Remember reading some article somewhere in it, it is mentioned how the Gripen manage(s) to get really close to the Eurofighter without being detected during exercises where it's full EW capabilities are used.

What I'm trying to bring here is the design philosophy of fighters by different nations.

Stephandeswardt:
Am talking about selection. .....not those absorbed into the system, we washing out faster

They don't send regulars.

Patchesagain:
Oryx is a Puma body with an engine from a Super Puma... Or something like that
I think the body itself is also a half and half

It is a bit longer.

SAAF demonstration.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIdHJGfl0Xo&itct=CBUQpDAYASITCOzXppu0388CFU8OHAodMjUDVlIbU0FBRiBBZnJpY2FuIGRlZmVuY2UgcmV2aWV3&gl=ZA&hl=en-GB&client=mv-google

Patchesagain:
SANDF in the 1990's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWsCmWRlkhg
I for one say we move back to Unicam
Nutria > Soldier 2000

Not really.

The SADF introduced Soldier 2000.
We no longer operate in the dry(desert and bush) parts of our region.

Seened:
Not to sound like an alarmist but many African countries are about to be left permanently underdeveloped with the advent of exponential technologies.

Why are you ignoring the counter measures used by the warship?

As they are successful and the cruise missiles aren't.


We have that capability(Including production) in Africa.

africaken254:
the few frigates,OPV,Oiler e.t.c just like what happened to iraq navy during Gulf war 1.will be totally eliminated thus not hindering an amphibious landing on your shores.now if you have land based anti-ship missiles,a barrage of those anti-ship missiles (even sub-sonic anti-ship missiles) would seriously threaten any ship anchored or sailing across and near your coast.
even after an israeli warship was hit by a hezbollah anti-ship missile,israel was not able to track the launcher,because those launchers can easily hide among civilian traffic or sheltered among the sprawling urban dwelling near the coast

But we have no such threats.

africaken254:
off topic:the same america navy USS Mason came under attack off the yemen coast with anti ship missiles,this is why i am repeating again.we need land based anti ship missiles launchers

read more http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/10/yemen-war-ship-faces-houthi-missiles-161016034018318.html

The threat?

Rather buy Frigates, OPV, Oilers etc.

Managed to get info on the cruise missiles used by the Hauthis?

Active counter measures (missiles) seem to be working.

nemesis2u:
LUH / LOH
light utility helicopter / light observation helicopter

Will be using the South African developed SGD's IDAS integrated electronic warfare self-protection system.

Question: Regarding the Light Combat Helicopter. What was the reason for the chopper to be left with space or housing for the Pilot's night vision system like other AH/CSH.

nemesis2u:

when the Akash program was started, India's air defense network was essentially divided into two parts - the Air Defense Ground Environment System (ADGES) and the Base Air Defense Zones (BADZ).

The ADGES network was responsible for overall airspace management and detection of intruders. The ADGES also controlled and coordinated the air defenses for large area targets.

The Base Air Defense Zones, as the name implies, was tasked with the defense of high value targets - air bases, nuclear installations and key military installations. The BADZ was a scaled down ADGES network, limited to an arc of 100km. The BADZ was a far more concentrated air defense environment than the ADGES and provides the only gap-free air defense cover in most sectors.

so you can see the the parameters of the Akash was in line with the then requirements. it was a little late to arrive but it dont matter because it was the first SAM developed indigenous and therefor delay was inevitable.

akash can target aircraft up to 30 km away, at altitude as low as 30 meters to as high as 18 to 20 km.

It has a speed of 2.5 mach is propelled by an Integrated Ramjet Rocket Engine. The use of a ramjet propulsion system enables sustained speeds without deceleration throughout its flight. a good number of other SAM missiles like Patriot simply coasts towards its targets. the Akash ramjet engine provides thrust for the missile throughout its flight (he engine is 'on' throughout the flight).

Each Akash battery consists of
1.four self-propelled Launchers (3 Akash SAMs each),
2.a Battery Level Radar - the Rajendra, and
3.a Command post (Battery Control Centre).

Two batteries are deployed as a Squadron (Air Force), while up to four form an Akash Group (Army configuration).

In both configurations, an extra Group Control Centre (GCC) is added, which acts as the Command and Control HQ of the Squadron or Group.

Based on a single mobile platform, GCC establishes links with Battery Control Centres and conducts air defense operations in coordination with air defense set up in a zone of operations. For early warning, the GCC relies on the Central Acquisition Radar. However, individual batteries can also be deployed with the cheaper, 2-D BSR (Battery Surveillance Radar) with a range of over 100 km.

Akash has an advanced automated functioning capability. The 3D CAR automatically starts tracking targets at a distance of around 150 km providing early warning to the system and operators. The target track information is transferred to GCC. GCC automatically classifies the target. BSR starts tracking targets around a range of 100 km. This data is transferred to GCC. The GCC performs multi-radar tracking and carries out track correlation and data fusion. Target position information is sent to the BLR which uses this information to acquire the targets.

The BCC which can engage a target(s) from the selected list at the earliest point of time is assigned the target in real time by the GCC. The availability of missiles and the health of the missiles are also taken into consideration during this process. Fresh targets are assigned as and when intercepts with assigned targets are completed. A single shot kill probability of 88% has been achieved by the system taking into consideration various parameters of the sensors, guidance command, missile capabilities and kill zone computations.

There are a number of possibilities for deploying Akash weapon system in autonomous mode and in group mode for neutralizing the threat profiles with defined multi-target engagement scenarios.

In the Group mode we can have number of configurations to defend vulnerable areas depending upon nature and expected threat pattern, characteristics of threat. Similarly, multiple batteries in autonomous mode can be deployed to defend vulnerable areas/points.

In a Group formation, the four Batteries can be deployed in various geometric formations, as suited to the vulnerable area being protected and the extent desired to be sanitized from enemy air threat.

1.In a box deployment pattern, an Akash group can defend an area of 62 km x 62 km.

2.In a linear array configuration, it covers an area of 98 km x 44 km.

3.Trapezoidal configuration gives defense to the largest area as compared to any other pattern of deployment covering an area of size 5000 square km.

Each Akash battery can engage up to four targets simultaneously. Each battery has four launchers with three missiles each, with each Rajendra able to guide eight missiles in total, with a maximum of two missiles per target. Up to a maximum of four targets can be engaged simultaneously by a typical battery with a single Rajendra if one (or two) missile is allotted per target. A single Akash missile has an 88% Probability of kill. Two missiles can be fired, five seconds apart, to raise the Probability of Kill to 98.5%.

Communications between the various vehicles are a combination of wireless and wired links. The entire system is designed to be set up quickly and to be highly mobile for high survivability.

The Akash system can be deployed by rail, road or air.

Both the Army and Air Force launchers have three ready-to-fire Akash missiles each. The launchers can slew in both elevation and azimuth.

The Army Self-Propelled Launcher (ASPL) is 360 degrees slewable and its arc in elevation is from 6 to 60 degrees.

The Akash Air Force Launcher (AAFL) is 360 degree slewable, in elevation it can fire from 8 to 75 degrees in all directions depending on the mode of deployment. Akash Air force launcher features an All electro servo drive system for fully automated and remote operation.

To enable the Akash group to perform self-sufficient in the combat zone, a number of supporting specialist vehicles have been designed and developed. They are mobile and field-worthy. Their design is based on the role and task to be performed and the vehicles are accordingly allocated to the Group HQ, the Batteries, Assembly Line Area and the Field maintenance workshop.
Some of the vehicles are:
the Missile Transportation Vehicle (MTV),
the Transportation and Loading Vehicle (TLV),
the Mobile Station for Missile Checkout (MSMC) Vehicle,
the Air Compressor Vehicle (ACV), the Power Supply vehicles (GPSV, BPSV),
the Engineering Support,
Maintenance and Repair vehicles (GEM, BEM) and a few others.

These specialist vehicles assemble and prepare missiles, deliver them to Batteries, carry maintenance spares and fuel, and provide logistical engineering support. Their allocation provides for flexibility and self-sufficiency to the whole Akash Group.

RADARS OF AKASH SAM

1.Rajendra is a passive electronically scanned array radar. It is a multifunction radar, capable of surveillance, tracking and engaging low radar cross section targets. It is the heart of the Akash surface-to-air missile system and is the primary fire control sensor for an Akash battery.

Rajendra is a slewable passive phased array radar used for 3-D target detection, multi target tracking and multiple missile guidance under extreme hostile EW environment. It makes use of a passive phased array to search a volume of space, distinguish between hostile and friendly targets, automatically track up to 64 targets and command one of several launchers to engage up to 4 targets simultaneously. Initially designed as a standalone system, Rajendra is now equipped with the ability to integrate with a network of sensors, including long and medium-range surveillance radars of foreign and indigenous origin.

Rajendra's multi-element antenna arrangement folds flat when the vehicle is in motion. The Radar consists of a surveillance antenna array with 4000 phase control modules (PCM's) operating in the G/H-Band (4-8 GHz), engagement antenna array with 1000 PCM's operating in the I/J-Band (8-20 GHz), a 16-element IFF array and steering units. A powerful high-end computer computes phases for all the elements of the array. Rajendra controls the beam positioning sequence through beam requests for each track at adaptive data rates and performs multifunctional roles like search –confirm –track -interrogate targets, assign and lock on launchers, and launch/acquire/ track/guide missiles. The RDP supplies track data to remote group control centre. Rajendra features a Dual channel radar receiver and a C band transmitter, although the complete transmitting and receiving features and bands are unknown.

Rajendra radar uses phase shifters integrated in large numbers for electronic beam steering. This allows Rajendra radar to simultaneously track multiple aircraft and also guide multiple missiles towards these targets. The phased array radar rotates 360 degrees on a rotating turnstile at a moderate speed. This allows it to perform 360 degree surveillance. The phased array itself has 45 degree scan limits to either side, giving a total scan coverage of 90 degrees, if the radar array is static.

The major functions of the Rajendra are:
1.Surveillance of the assigned volume of space
2.Acquisition of aircraft targets either independently or handed over from group control centre via the 3-D CAR or from the battery surveillance radar
3.Tracking of targets (64)
4.Tracking of assigned targets (up to 4 ) and missiles (up to 8 ) during engagement
5.Command guidance of missiles (up to 8 )
6.Integrated IFF (Identification Friend or Foe) functions

2.The central acquisition radar (3D-CAR) is a 3D radar for use with Akash SAM capable of tracking 150 targets.Central acquisition radar (CAR) is a medium-range high-resolution 3D surveillance radar. The radar employs a planar array antenna and provides simultaneous multi-beam coverage. It can handle 150 targets in track while scan mode.

features of 3D CAR radar (airforce , army and naval versions)

Medium-range 3D surveillance
1.S band operation
2.Surveillance range more than 180 km
3.Covers elevation of 18 km in height
4.High altitude deployability
5.Deployment in less than 20 minutes
6.150 Targets in TWS
7.Array of ECCM features
8.Integrated IFF
9.Capable of detecting low-altitude targets, and also supersonic aircraft flying at over Mach 3 speed
10.Frequency agility and jammer analysis


cost of akash missile is very low compared to similar missiles of its class.
total orders (army + airforce) is more than 5 billion dollars and nearly 1000 of these missiles have been produced till date and continuing.

also Akash Mk-II is in development longer range, better guidance system and fire control system, maybe a active seeker etc. details are not known.

The munition component(the missile) of the system.

To me it is like the Vidhwansak regardless of what people might say it is based on existing technology.

Borrowing heavily from the 50-60 developed Gainful Soviet/Russian SAM system. A leave from the that tree.

In my opinion like the Barak 8 system, India could have got something better on the market then intergrated into the larger system(hardware and software).